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SNOYLOVER69420 Tue 11 Feb 2025 02:55:48 No.4405295 View View Reply Original Report

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I'm currently in the market for a new macro focusing rail, my current one is just a cheapo off amazon you need to loosen to adjust.
I see Sirui making decent items all around, and they make a focusing rail for less than $120 but I wouldn't mind some input from other anons.

Zach

Zach Thu 13 Feb 2025 16:45:58 No.4405939 Report

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>>4405935
Your team if they wanted to help people get better should ban users who promote suicide, ban users who can not offer constructive criticism when criticizing, ban people committing felonies, ban the users who are posturing, and lastly ban users who are baiting other users. That's how a mod should work. Not ban who they feel is overly politically correct.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2025 16:52:24 No.4405940 Report

Quoted By: >>4405944 >>4405949

Why are their lenses so stupid?
>Fuji GF
Huge, slow, zoom ranges only 2x at best, the macros only go to 0.5x (on mavro four thirds too so it's actually 0.4x) meanwhile people adapt Canon EF 100-400s with little to no vignetting and acceptable quality and there are a plethora of autofocusing 645 real macro lenses that do 1x.
>muh 100mp lens
Stupid limitation. Should introduce an S line of lenses (for shit) that compromise a little.
>Canon RF
Your two options are 100-800mm f/8-32 or a $15,000 600mm f/4 lens. Everyone on the platform's a wildlife photog too. I don't get it.
The funny thing is L, E and Z mounts are all completely fine. They all have lenses that make sense and very few that are stupid. Why??

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2025 16:53:38 No.4405941 Report

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alright alright I'll leave my gear in this thread, you guys look after it okay?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2025 17:06:09 No.4405944 Report

Quoted By: >>4405946 >>4405949

>>4405940
please stop making this dumb mistake

crop factor doesn't change macro magnification
magnification is reproduction size. it has nothing to do with sensors.

1:1 means the actual size of the object is replicated on the imaging plane. the lens projects an image. if the size of the photographed object is its real size in that image, it is 1:1 macro.
even if the sensor is cut in half it remains 1x
even if the sensor is doubled in size it remains 1x

btw even if you used a ff macro you'd still have a 61mp camera with a lower noise sensor than an a7rv. snoy's magic AF implementation makes the sensor noisy just like canon's dpaf+high fps makes sensors with aps-c dr and increasing readout circuitry makes it even worse (lmao r3/1, r5ii). fuji cant improve gfx af much more without compromising iq. this is the real reason MF is lagging behind FF. it refuses to get worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2025 17:09:54 No.4405946 Report

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>>4405944
No you don't understand. GFX doesn't have a native 1x macro lens. Not FF equivalent, actual 1x by your definition. Their "macro" lenses go to 0.5x.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2025 17:16:15 No.4405949 Report

Quoted By: >>4405953 >>4405955

>>4405940
>See? These $15,000 lenses are idiotic because they're overkill and only market to a select niche of buyers!
Same energy as:
>See? These $125,000 sports cars from >insert common car maker here< are idiotic because they're overkill and only market to a select niche of buyers!
>>4405944
>1:1 means the actual size of the object is replicated on the imaging plane. the lens projects an image. if the size of the photographed object is its real size in that image, it is 1:1 macro.
This is technically correct, but if you think anyone is talking about 1:1 macro and means anything other than 35mm/Full-Frame sensor size equivalent, you're a retard
>Bruhhhh my shitty 1/2.3" sensor bridge camera has a 30:1 magnification ratio!
See? Makes no sense. My foolframe macro lens doesn't have markings on the barrel to indicate "but ackshullay, on your cope sensor it's 1.6:1 hurrrr"

But yes, the anon you were speaking to is also a retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2025 17:22:43 No.4405953 Report

Quoted By: >>4405959

>>4405949
>>See? These $125,000 sports cars from >insert common car maker here< are idiotic because they're overkill and only market to a select niche of buyers!
You are so retarded if that's what you took from my message it isn't worth responding to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2025 17:27:47 No.4405955 Report

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>>4405949
It can be helpful if you want to know how much magnification/bellows compensation you get from a bellows or extension ring.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2025 17:38:36 No.4405959 Report

Quoted By: >>4405960

>>4405953
>why are gfx lenses so big and why won’t fuji release the one i want
Yes you are a retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2025 17:40:21 No.4405960 Report

Quoted By: >>4405964

>>4405959
Well, why not? I'd buy it and they're trying to make money. Other people would too clearly as they're paying hundreds for an adapter to put worse, older lenses on their bodies.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2025 17:43:20 No.4405962 Report

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I shoot an original Canon 7d

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2025 17:46:27 No.4405964 Report

Quoted By: >>4405967

>>4405960
R&D = $$$$$
Retooling and manufacturing = $$$$$
Opportunity cost of not making a more popular product = $$$$$
Potential profit from a few hobbyists who are already buying adapters and just want to pixel peep better = $$$$

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2025 17:51:48 No.4405967 Report

Quoted By: >>4405968

>>4405964
Meanwhile they have three zooms that overlap in the standard range lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2025 17:59:17 No.4405968 Report

Quoted By: >>4405970

>>4405967
>oh no, OVERLAP
literally the expected arrangement by professional users because it reduces lens switching

there isnt major commercial demand for 1:1 macro on g mount. it is a commercial camera, not a hobby camera. a lot of its users are in forensics and have microscopes for anything closer than frame filling. especially with 100mp, .5x has been enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2025 18:05:38 No.4405969 Report

Quoted By: >>4405970

>why does my ariel atom not have apple carplay
If you have to ask an $8000 specialist camera system isnt for you

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2025 18:08:20 No.4405970 Report

Quoted By: >>4405974

>>4405969
>>4405968
Okay but it's not that specialist or expensive. The bodies are basically the same price as FF and there's a pretty healthy lens offering, just feels like there's some missed oppprtunities. I'd call Phase One specialist. GFX is trending towards generalist with video focused bodies and the recent 500mm f/5.6.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2025 18:15:10 No.4405974 Report

Quoted By: >>4405976 >>4405977

>>4405970
$5000 for the most crippled body and $1000+ per lens… the only FF gear in this price tier is ultra high speed sports/video specialist kit. Very few people use GFX cameras and most of them are not bug nerds doing 1:1 macro. There is simply no paying customer demand. The existing lenses meet the needs of the target market. The 500mm is mostly for high budget weddings with fuckhuge audiences. A typical GFX user job.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2025 18:24:45 No.4405976 Report

Quoted By: >>4405980

>>4405974
>5000 for the most crippled body
Huh? USD? The 100s ii is virtually the same as their top end body and is less than that.
>>$1000 a lens
They're all top end lenses. That's my complaint more or less.
>500mm for weddings
Check out the official marketing material. It's clearly for wildlife.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2025 18:27:00 No.4405977 Report

Quoted By: >>4405980

>>4405974
Also have you even been to a wedding? I've never seen a photographer all the way in the back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2025 18:32:32 No.4405980 Report

Quoted By: >>4405981 >>4405982

>>4405977
Yes

>>4405976
The 100sii has lower speed card slots and does 8k meme video

Who seriously wants 1x macro on GFX? Most good "macro" shots aren’t even 1x.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2025 18:33:34 No.4405981 Report

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>>4405980
>*and doesn’t do

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2025 18:37:08 No.4405982 Report

Quoted By: >>4405985 >>4405988

>>4405980
>Who seriously wants 1x macro on GFX? Most good "macro" shots aren’t even 1x.
Product photography, aka what you'd use a "commercial camera" for, in your words. Cheers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2025 18:57:11 No.4405985 Report

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>>4405982
Novoflex makes a bbellows adapter with lens communication for 1200 bucks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2025 19:01:21 No.4405988 Report

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>>4405982
Product photography is rarely 1:1. Maybe for fine jewelry, but most of those guys already have tethered p1s and hasselblads and havent needed to upgrade for 10 years

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2025 23:03:08 No.4406003 Report

Quoted By: >>4406012

>>4405295
What LED lights do you all recommend for hobby photography? All the RGB LED lights I see are like $100 minimum for a small block LED. Seems expensive for what they are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2025 23:38:40 No.4406012 Report

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>>4406003
Have you given your phone a try?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2025 23:49:02 No.4406013 Report

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I just wanted everyone to know that I somehow got a brand new lens (Fuji 18mm f1.4) for 25% off for some reason, from some random ebay shop, and it was the last one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 03:32:05 No.4406040 Report

Quoted By: >>4406043 >>4406051 >>4406060 >>4406110

Just getting into photography, where do you guys recommend for a decent leather carrying strap?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 04:26:26 No.4406043 Report

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>>4406040
The leather store. You could make one out of exotic leathers also.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 05:02:12 No.4406051 Report

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>>4406040
Aliscampress normally makes leather and pleather half-cases for a lot of common models

Zach

Zach Fri 14 Feb 2025 05:46:12 No.4406060 Report

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>>4406040
Get a bag that's weatherproof and able to handle extreme weather.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 06:05:31 No.4406062 Report

Quoted By: >>4406065 >>4406111

do gearfags really?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 06:06:53 No.4406065 Report

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>>4406062
>Electronics breaks and all lenses get ruined by fungus.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 12:01:21 No.4406088 Report

Quoted By: >>4406090

I've been thinking to buy a DSLR or MILC and I've been checking photos on flick.
I've noticed following:
>Nikon 18-55 kit lens F3.5 whatever
Ok, sharp enough
>Sony ILCE 6100 or 6300 dont remember what dude got, idk what but kit lens but probably in same ballpark no?
Pretty good too....

And there's canon 18-55
>What the fuck is this gay shit around all subjects
and i remembered something. Canon SX160, a 1/2.3" digishit. It doesn't do this obnoxious gay aberration. to that extent. But you know, canon sx160, a 1/2.3" digishit, fits in pocket, was sold for idk not much innit? Not a DSLR for $800 (when it was new).
Why the fuck canon kit lenses are so bad?
Pic related.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 13:26:24 No.4406090 Report

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>>4406088
Canon kit lenses and cope sensors exist to funnel you into foolframe bodies and L lenses
>Buy entry-level APS-C w/ kit lens
Hmmm this [ distortion | CA | softness | narrow aperture ] is kind of limiting. Hmm I wouldn't mind weather sealing or a different focal length
>Buy decent prime / L zoom / any fullframe lens upgrade for $500-1500+
Hmmm these lenses are nice but I'm sure I'm leaving quality on the table with this cope sensor and fullframe glass
>Buy foolframe body for $2,000+
Hmmm these photos are technically have good IQ but it turns out I'm a shit photographer
>Is $4,000 in the hole

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 16:19:12 No.4406110 Report

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>>4406040
If in Europe - I use deadcameras but be careful because their shit tends to be really undersized (narrow). Their 'XL' strap is absolute minimum for anything larger/heavier than a foojie APS-C body.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 16:54:48 No.4406111 Report

Quoted By: >>4406112 >>4406192

>>4406062
>He has a shelf for a LENS CAP
Average fujifag

Gotta revere the gear because that’s where the soul comes from, otherwise he just takes photos of benches

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 16:55:33 No.4406112 Report

Quoted By: >>4406114

>>4406111
Do you think he will move onto building corners one day?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 16:58:02 No.4406114 Report

Quoted By: >>4406115

>>4406112
Maybe even skylines
Or signs

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 17:02:22 No.4406115 Report

Quoted By: >>4406117

>>4406114
Stop. No way!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 17:06:46 No.4406117 Report

Quoted By: >>4406136

>>4406115
Or, if he gets really good
People - on bicycles!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 18:08:25 No.4406136 Report

Quoted By: >>4406138

>>4406117
Waaaaat. Facing towards the camera or away???

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 18:13:55 No.4406138 Report

Quoted By: >>4406151

>>4406136
Riding past. The holy grail of fujislugs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 18:48:20 No.4406151 Report

Quoted By: >>4406152

>>4406138
Do you think it's symbolic?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 18:49:32 No.4406152 Report

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>>4406151
That’s a matter of opinion. Schrodinger’s symbolism, if you will.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2025 21:41:06 No.4406192 Report

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>>4406111
>shelf for a LENS CAP
Hey, I use mine as a shutter. It's an important piece of equipment.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 15 Feb 2025 01:41:04 No.4406233 Report

Quoted By: >>4406240 >>4406249

I guess this is the best place to ask this.
canon has the EF and EF-S as well as the RF and RF-S, snoy has an equivalent, pentax has pentax 67 to 645 adaptors and people in general put medium format film lenses on medium format digital and full frame digital cameras or full frame lenses on micro four thirds cameras
is there an optical disadvantage to putting a full frame lens on a crop sensor, or any lens with an image circle bigger than the sensor onto that camera? is there an optical advantage to an APS-C lens on an APS-C camera over the full frame lens?
there were people on canon's site's forum saying the only difference is that since crop sensors are smaller crop lenses can be smaller, lighter and cheaper.
I was very slightly contemplating putting a pentax 67 lens on a pentax 645 since there is an OEM adaptor, but I probably won't regardless because the only pentax 67 lens that is faster than f/2.8 is the 105mm f/2.4 and the bokeh on that lens makes me want to puke its so ugly

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Feb 2025 02:02:52 No.4406240 Report

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>>4406233
The big image circle can cause reflections in poorly designed cameras (uncommon) and adapters (somewhat common)
Larger format lenses may appear optically worse when used with the smaller pixel pitch of crop sensors, gaining entirely new aberrations FF users never saw before and never cared about (this is why snoy lenses are so big, to keep up with the a7rv)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Feb 2025 02:29:17 No.4406249 Report

Quoted By: >>4406259

>>4406233
It's often advantageous because edges of the frame tend to be weakest and your new edge performance just becomes the lens performance. An argument could be made for how greater pixel density in the center and midfield affects performance, but that's not super relevant in practice.
If you had a lens with lots of swirly bokeh on the edges, you lose that with the cropping, but sometimes that might be beneficial to omit. At the end of the day, it's not gonna be much different than using the lens on a larger sensor and simply cropping in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Feb 2025 03:03:07 No.4406259 Report

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>>4406249
It is relevant

Lenses that are ok on the edges on ff remain just ok on apsc and sometimes get even worse because the midframe sharpness falloff is magnified. It ranges from no benefit to major downgrade.
You do lose vignetting tho

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