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Anonymous Mon 01 Dec 2025 04:58:53 No.4485653 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>4488941

>perfect colors right the first time edition

>>4484029

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Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 15:52:24 No.4486723 Report

Quoted By: >>4486742

>>4486721
The point of M ISO is you don't fiddle with it constantly though
To the extent you go outside the bounds and need to readjust, the same is true for auto ISO
It's not that manual controls are superior, it's that thinking of ISO as an exposure control is suboptimal
I already said other approaches work fine in 99% or cases and for most people, I agree that auto ISO is just fine in most cases, but I do think most people are just being lazy at the end of the day
I am definitely lazy about not shooting any film anymore
If you're confident and comfortable with M, you should just go the next step for ISO too, all I'm saying

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 15:58:43 No.4486724 Report

Quoted By: >>4486751

>>4486711
Good build, mines held up in tons of rain
Great AF performance, one of the best lowlight AF bodies
At launch, it was the best body for using adapted / MF lenses, but Z5II, Z6III, Z8 are at parity now
Bulk is larger compared to small mirrorless , but fine for an EDC option, most people opt for grips but the half cases can also offer more grip and protection with less weight and size increase
I would've preferred Fuji like dials but at least they fixed Auto ISO functionality

The 50 1.8 S is an absolute killer, but I also use the 28mm and 40mm too when I don't need the 50
Lots of adapted glass too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 16:35:59 No.4486741 Report

Quoted By: >>4486749

>>4485890
I get bigger moron vibes off iso invariance wankers. Not only are most cameras not actually fully iso invariant (just a half dozen top shelf mirrorless… and zero canons) underexposing -1 protects all highlights anyways unless exposing for the lamps in a room

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 16:37:56 No.4486742 Report

Quoted By: >>4486748 >>4486779

>>4486705
>>4486723
Do tell, what is the compromise with using auto ISO? Whether the camera chooses ISO 800 or you set it manually there is literally no difference, other than the latter takes more time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 17:10:00 No.4486748 Report

Quoted By: >>4486820

>>4486742
Because sometimes the cameras might want to set it to 800 when 640 would be more optimal and now you're giving up dynamic range for no reason
If you take any amount of photos in a sequence, it's also much easier to adjust them all equally if they are all exposed equally, sometimes you might end up with an few shots where some are 500 some are 640 some are 800 and now you have to adjust each one individually

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 17:11:56 No.4486749 Report

Quoted By: >>4486758

>>4486741
>Not only are most cameras not actually fully iso invariant
Good thing no one is saying they are
>underexposing -1 protects all highlights
True, using a permanent EC is also a good choice for convenience
Until you get a shot that would've been better off -0.7 or -0.5 and now you've given up potential IQ

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 17:15:50 No.4486751 Report

Quoted By: >>4486760

>>4486724
Forgive my ignorance, but I didn't know the 50 1.8 S lens existed. It looks pretty damn great. That lens along with a 28 and 35 would be my ideal setup.
I bought a Fuji x100vi recently that's great. I love the tiny size/weight and how much punch it packs in terms of photo and video capabilities. It's just my first aps-c camera and my eyes are just so used to the look you get from full frame. So I may sell it and get the Zf, or just get the Zf as well and run with both cameras hehe.
The 4k 60fps crop on the Zf is just such a deal breaker for me, it's what took my interest off it when I was researching my new camera. I went with the x100vi instead, but I'm kinda second guessing now even though I've been enjoying the Fuji a ton. The difference between full frame and aps-c is just very noticeable to me.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 17:34:02 No.4486758 Report

Quoted By: >>4486765

>>4486749
>nooo not 1/3 stop of noise my photo is ruined
crop issue

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 17:35:47 No.4486760 Report

Quoted By: >>4486774

>>4486751
>look up why 4k60 crops are bad
>vloggoids abuse hfr video to smooth oht their walking while talking selfie yootoobs
Lmao imagine giving up a superior camera over something an iphone would be suited for

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Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 17:43:39 No.4486765 Report

Quoted By: >>4486766

>>4486758
Good example of dishonesty and/or a useless comment

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 17:45:10 No.4486766 Report

Quoted By: >>4486775

>>4486765
>not 1/3 stop! 1/2 even! photo ruining!
I agree thats why full frame is the minimum

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 17:50:12 No.4486774 Report

Quoted By: >>4486813

>>4486760
I don't make videos like that though, I just want the full sensor for 4k shooting and I don't need more than 60fps for slow motion stuff. I just need 24 and 60fps with the full sensor size/quality. It's not a big ask in this day and age. You're also a moron for making the iphone comparison, but this is 4chan after all. I only have myself to blame for talking about this shit here.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 17:50:26 No.4486775 Report

Quoted By: >>4486793

>>4486766
>more dishonesty
See, that's what people get for actually trying here

cinefag !CiNE/YT/e6

cinefag !CiNE/YT/e6 Sat 06 Dec 2025 17:52:50 No.4486779 Report

Quoted By: >>4486796 >>4486806

>>4486742
ISO doesn't really change the exposure. You get a cleaner image exposing for a lower ISO.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 18:14:02 No.4486793 Report

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>>4486775
Indeed, it is dishonest to say full frame is the minimum. If it’s not at least 6x6, its a major compromise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 18:15:17 No.4486796 Report

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>>4486779
>ISO doesn't really change the exposure
Tell that to the people using auto ISO to control for exposure

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 19:03:58 No.4486806 Report

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>>4486779
On most cameras ISO is more than a lightroom slider. The on camera chips have access to rawer data than the so called raw file up to a point where the signal is so noisy it makes little difference.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 19:21:54 No.4486813 Report

Quoted By: >>4486944

>>4486774
Video IQ doesn’t matter. Your demand is autistic and retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 20:44:28 No.4486819 Report

Quoted By: >>4486944

>>4486691
>I like basically everything about it except the 60fps
What do you use 60 fps for? Slow motion?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 20:45:59 No.4486820 Report

Quoted By: >>4486834

>>4486748
>Because sometimes the cameras might want to set it to 800 when 640 would be more optimal and now you're giving up dynamic range for no reason
You don't get more noise with 800 vs 640 iso. Most cameras have their dual gain come in at 400 iso. Anything above that has the same amount of noise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 22:06:58 No.4486830 Report

Quoted By: >>4486832 >>4486833

>24mm is too wide
>28mm is for phoneshitters
>35mm is for streetshitters
>40mm shouldn't even exist
>50mm is a meme

What is an acceptable focal length for a prime lens then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 22:23:25 No.4486832 Report

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>>4486830
>letting nophotos dictate what focal lengths are for and what people they're made fo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 22:23:55 No.4486833 Report

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>>4486830
18 and 85, Otherwise you are just pussyfooting around. …and the 85 is only if you don’t have enough room to shoot with your 135.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 22:27:01 No.4486834 Report

Quoted By: >>4486848

>>4486820
Any modern camera should be able to perform as well as Nikons Z8, where noise is not even detectable under iso1200. bc Nik is just buying stock sensors from Sony, so if they can get clean performance out of the sensor, so should anybody else be able.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 22:54:28 No.4486837 Report

Quoted By: >>4486884

What's a good Z-mount lens for video? I have the 40mmf2. I read good things about the 50mm 1.8 being incredible sharp. But when I rarely shoot wide open does it make a difference? For example comparing both at f5.6 or so.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Dec 2025 23:27:02 No.4486848 Report

Quoted By: >>4486887

>>4486834
th.....this is retardation surely

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2025 04:41:20 No.4486879 Report

Quoted By: >>4486882 >>4486885

>>4485695
its easy to laugh at them now, but these retarded children have been raised as consumers in a no skills/no expertise/no education/no experience needed version of reality sold to them by software companies “democratizing” & removing gatekeepers from production. Why learn what those sliders are doing, all you need to do is know that a slider slides back and forth or how to select an insta “filter” on your phone and you’re producing content just like the pro’s! Of course the universal quantity/quality maxim still applies, so as generations due off and are replaced by billions if clueless fucking morons, it devalues all production across the board, and as we’re seeing in nearly every industry, humanity ends up drowning in an endless sea of worthless garbage and then wonders what’s left to make money off of, but of course the answer is buying and selling money itself to each other at inflated sums in confidence scams, as we’re already arriving at today. And all of it was engineered to be this way, this is the start of the shortsighted anti-human dystopia you get when you let engineers engineer themselves a society without the annoyances of the philosophers, scientists and artists.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2025 04:47:54 No.4486882 Report

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>>4486879
No anon. Engineers did not do this. Engineers HATED this every step of the way and chanted "TEACH. THEM. C!" and demanded automation be pruned and replaced with modularity and programmability. Engineers did not do mac OS. Engineers did plan 9. Engineers did not do the iPhone. Engineers did nokia.

It was a philosophy, a religion, that did this, the very one that made art a worthless sea or shit that glorifies ugliness and illness and “critiques” everything. It is a religion that teaches its adherents that they are smarter than everyone else and their duty is to stay pure and guide the cattle of the world onward in safety, goodness, and grace.

You will find people from this group at the top of nearly every tech company, usually with an indian as the figurehead masking their influence. You will find them at the top of the chain in media and in finance. And they certainly aren’t engineers. They’re better at plagiarizing works in physics.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2025 05:01:16 No.4486884 Report

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>>4486837
I’m not sure it matters. The 20mm, 85, 50, he’ll even their budget lenses are far sharper than the sensors are capable of resolving now, and the sensors are higher fidelity than any compression algorithm is ever going to let you see in your final output file. The glass is no longer the weak link, it’s the video delivery system. No one wants to wait to download & then store full color full res raw video, & no one wants to have to buy physical media, so as usual in video, the lowest quality format wins in the market. Pick your lenses based on your shots, 300mm for flattering closeups, 85mm for nice flat normals, and the 20mm for those wide John Ford epic establishing shots. …the Z 85 and 20 are practically optically perfect though. And shockingly inexpensive. I leave the 85 on an Z7 body and grab it for stills about 99% of the time. It is the my favorite lens I’ve ever used from any maker in 27 years of shooting.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2025 05:02:26 No.4486885 Report

Quoted By: >>4487076

>>4486879
This is the world (predominantly far left wing) artists literally asked for and (jewish) philosophers supported with the help of (agreeable) scientists (the ones that disagreed with them had their funding pulled)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2025 05:05:23 No.4486887 Report

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>>4486848
You typed out a stutter. Consider how you will end your life now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2025 06:25:50 No.4486905 Report

Quoted By: >>4487041

>>4486670
>That's pretty wide even for real estate, places I was at started at 14mm.
10mm on cropped Canon is equivalent to 16mm full frame.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2025 06:30:33 No.4486909 Report

Quoted By: >>4487184 >>4487492

I occasionally do photography at museums, but I always rent or borrow a DSLR. Secondly, I have collected a lot of out of print books I want to digitize the illustrations of

I'm trying to decide between buying a flatbed scanner made for books, and buying a camera that i'd mount pointing straight down on a table or angled at the same angle the book would be at, that way I could scan books and also have a camera to use without needing to rent one

However, last time I borrowed a camera I tried this out with a normal tripod, an extension arm, etc, and it was kinda a finnicky mess. The arm to get the camera pointed straight down had unbalanced weight so the tripod consantly tried to tip over even when I tried to weigh it down, not to mention that the threads that fixed the camera to the arm/tripod, and the tripod itself, had no way to move in fixed angle increments to ensure I was exactly at 90 degrees

Is there gear that will help for this sort of setup? Do they make tripods and mounts that lock to specific angles? What sort of light would I need to get even lighting for the books without casting a glare? That type of lense is as close to possible as being totally isometric to minimize lens distortion?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2025 10:50:27 No.4486944 Report

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>>4486813
>You're autistic for wanting to use the full size of your sensor!!!
Do you even read the shit you write anon? The absolute fucking state of this place.

>>4486819
Yeah, slow motion is a must have for me. I've shot with cameras that couldn't do it properly for years (I know I could just have upgraded sooner, but I've had other priorities for a long time and finally coming back now) and I've been in so many scenarios where it would have been ideal to have. Don't even need crazy slow motion, just 60fps because it's perfect for so many things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2025 14:41:58 No.4486976 Report

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>>4486691
>As far as lens size i prefer to keep it light, think the 28mm, 40mm, and adapted old Nikkor glass.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2025 18:24:28 No.4487026 Report

Quoted By: >>4487030

>>4486572
its my favorite snapshitter

this is sooc jpeg after straightening it

lens used was minolta af 135mm f2.8 prime that has the coating flaking off iirc i paid $30 for it

1/400 f2.8 iso 160

you can import one from japan for less, buyee has a few for $30-80 usd. batteries are shared w/pentax k10d so theyre easy to get for <$10

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Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2025 18:27:54 No.4487030 Report

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>>4487026
i've posted this pic before, if you get it from japan it comes in a slick silver color. i paid $40 for it in feb 2025

a-mount is fun because the lenses are cheap + worthless (only the ssm/hi speed minolta/late model sony g master stuff is $$$)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2025 20:21:59 No.4487041 Report

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>>4486671
>the firm I worked at thought being able to go ultra wide was useful for shit like pools and nice landscaping
They didn't care about distortion? 14mm is already a little odd looking but still comfortable, while 10mm is going to be just too much.

>Policy was on the inside we'd start at 18mm and go wider as needed to get the whole room in shot
Policy for one place I was at was to have the room look as large as possible, but also avoid things like dead space as much as possible (such as only showing a small piece of the third wall and having the other two walls the focus), so it was always a balancing act. Houses that were still furnished also needed extra attention to height and angle since the distortion on furniture could look bizarre. I had to take a photo of a tiny bathroom once and the toilet bowl ended up looking like a giant oval kek.

>>4486905
Ah yes, I'd forgotten about cropped. Everywhere I've been at has used full frame so I forget about people using cropped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Dec 2025 22:14:11 No.4487076 Report

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>>4486885
>(predominantly far left wing) artists
there literally aren't any rightoid artists. the creation of actual art is a leftist concept. all rightoids can do is co-opt and pervert existing art

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Dec 2025 01:42:50 No.4487184 Report

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>>4486909
>>4486909
>>4486909
Alternatively if this is the wrong thread for this let me know, I don't visit /p/ often

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 17:01:37 No.4487492 Report

Quoted By: >>4487554

>>4486909
I think you're really going to have an easier time getting a scanner.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Dec 2025 23:23:33 No.4487554 Report

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>>4487492
Probably, but if tripods etc do exist with angle locking/snapping as a feature I'd be interested in it for other reasons anyways

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Dec 2025 16:29:27 No.4488423 Report

Quoted By: >>4488481

>>4485748
Are you kidding me? Those two pictures look 100% identical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Dec 2025 22:51:30 No.4488481 Report

Quoted By: >>4488640

>>4488423
>t. legally blind

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Anonymous Tue 16 Dec 2025 15:00:35 No.4488640 Report

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>>4488481
>t. troll who enjoys the thought of retards squinting for hours to spot the difference

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Anonymous Thu 18 Dec 2025 12:42:03 No.4488941 Report

Quoted By: >>4489019

>>4485653
I just bought a Snoy Alpha 57 with a broken stabilizer for 40 bucks. It's on the way to me. How fucked and/or retarded am I?

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Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2025 02:49:13 No.4489019 Report

Quoted By: >>4489064

>>4488941
a57 is a great camera but broken stab makes it annoying to use but for $40 its decent, a charger/battery costs $20.

for reference i paid $180 for a a58 (newer 20mp sensor) locally with a 35mm f1.8 dt and its honestly a pretty enjoyable camera to use, newest i own for the a-mount lenses i still have. it uses the sensor from the a5000 so you get a good pic out of it. the sony cameras were great just horribly unreliable, near e-waste build quality. the SLT setup doesn't impact image quality as much as you'd believe because the sensors are still pretty damn good.

i would def pick up a a58/a65/a68/a77 if they were <$300 (like $180 for my camera is closer to $100 when the lens goes for $80). a68 is probably my next purchase if i can find one <$200.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Dec 2025 11:35:44 No.4489064 Report

Quoted By: >>4489260

>>4489019
Yeah, I thought it would be kind of a gamble but it comes with charger, original Sony carrying pouch, two old batteries (I ordered a new one), instructions and a CD ROM (?) that has software on it. All of it looks decent, like not dirty or anything. I thought I could get away with the broke stab because I intend to use it just for tripod shots in my home.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Dec 2025 08:33:01 No.4489260 Report

Quoted By: >>4489278

>>4489064
the broken stab should be fine if you're on a tripod unless the sensor is jammed or it throws a error code (these stupid slt cameras always do that).

pick up a decent strobe too if you're doing indoor photography. a cheap way is a minolta flash like a 3600hsd or 5600hsd or the metz/sigma equivalent since it uses the old style minolta and sony dslr hotshoe (a58 uses newer). should be pretty cheap, i have a 3600 hsd i picked up for $10 off buyee that gives me pretty accurate pttl and with a adapter even works on the newer sony cameras (i had it on a zv1)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Dec 2025 13:08:54 No.4489278 Report

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>>4489260
That's gonna be exciting. At that price I am not worried to yank around on it. We'll see if I can make it work.

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