>>3422647The first comparison is valid, the F1,4 is for the bokeh whores who really, really, really wants to stand out from smartphone shots.
The second one is two different things.
The 35mm is for being stealthy.
The 24mm is designed specifically for shooting the stars, but even then, it's not THAT mush bigger. If you can carry the 85 F1,8, you can carry the 24mm as well.