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...Instead of looking down into the evidence of homelessness—a bed, cooking items—I’m now in that bed with my tripod laying flat down, seeing what they might have seen. If there’s a chair in the site, I’m sitting in that chair. They’re all taken with longer lenses, 120mm or 200mm or 500mm. They’re all square, and many are very abstract. The older photographs were like looking in, now I am looking out from their point of view. The welfare office is where that idea started, and it’s a different way of experiencing the city. If there were a hole cut out of a fence along the freeway, I’d go through that hole and find a place where somebody had a little bed, or chair, and try to make a picture. I’d have never seen LA this way unless I was following their path.