>>4373752thats interesting, thanks anon
pic related is also double-x at 800, in rodinal 1:50 16 minutes at (or near enough) 20C but im not really satisfied with the grain
pic related is an unedited scan from a roll i shot earlier this year according to above
maybe its the scanner too, not having enough sharpness or resolution, maybe the grain is satisfactory once i get around to enlarging them
sorry for blogposting, ill make sure to try 18C for 18 minutes next time