>>3213326>that cheap look??
What do you mean? Grain? Contrast? Latitude?
>i dunno if it has changed or ive gotten more demanding with film over timeIt hasn't changed unless you last shot it in the early '80's.
"Demanding with film" is relevant. HP5+ is great for what it is, a fast, cubic grain B&W film with good pushability. If that's not what you need, cool.
For instance I don't quite like the cartoonish S-curve of TriX.