>>4017088Yeah mate I get you.
Many people have a hateboner for t-grain films, but they're a great solution for smaller formats. You pretty much gain 2 stops of speed at the same grain size vs traditional grain films, for instance TMax 400 has roughly the same grain as FP4+ which is ISO125. Or even Delta 3200, say shot+devved at 1600, has roughly the same grain as Tri-X/HP5+ at 400.
I think it's the combination of fast film *and* Rodinal that makes grain objectionable in 35mm. I think even traditional grain films work fine with a general purpose or fine grain developer (D-76, XTol especially), and even more so if the light permits to pull 1 stop.
Personally, in 35mm I use ISO400 films and Xtol most of the time, because of flexibility. They can look really fine grained with great latitude pulled at 200, they can be pushed one stop easily to 800 (or in Diafine you get a very nice, real push in the shadows while keeping contrast in check, which is usually what you want in nighttime), they're workable at 1600, and of course great at box speed. From 200 to 800 I'll use ISO400 films in a pinch without a care in the world, at ISO1600 and above I'll prefer Delta 3200 if I have, but I'll gladly use one of the ISO400 films if I don't.