>>4364144>>4364153idk what kind of dopey butterflies you guys get, but for me it is near impossible to get close enough with an actual macro lens
while telephoto obviously has less detail i think it's fine for butterflies
>>4364292macros for small shit you can't get close enough to focus on with another lens
it doesn't have to be tiny like a bug, lots of people use macro on mushrooms for example
you can also use some macro lenses for portraits
