>>3072250a 500c with 80mm is at tops a $600 camera
500c/m with 80mm should be $1000 max
never been a fan of the Mamiya myself but the people who like them love them. I just feel that the extra size / weight of the camera doesn't justify the slight gain in neg size, a 4x5 field camera really isn't much bigger and no heavier that the 67, so might as well go big.