>>4158646Kiev 4 is nice I have one but the ribbons break on the shutters eventually. If you buy one, get it CLA'd and have the shutter replaced by Oleg Khalyavin.
>>4158650I have a J8, it's nice but with all Soviet lenses, buy from 1950-1970 when Communism had something to prove. The J3 is nice too. If I had to do a Holy Trinity, would be the 28/6, 50/1.5 and 85/2. 85's are tricky they are almost always not in alignment I bought 3 before I found a good one.
>>4158654Also this, Cosina Voigtlander is good value for money. I have the 15/4.5 Super-Wide Heliar. Great lens.