>>4337679R10 is like $3-400 more, so its hard to justify. Canon is running crackhead deals on their refurbs. I just saw I missed the R50 + 18-45 Lens Kit restock for $520...while the R10 with the same lens is $800. Is the difference that dramatic?
The other cameras I'm considering is a used Nikon Z30 ($500-600 on average with lenses, for example I just missed one for $583 with a Nikkor Z 16-50 + Sirui 35mm 1.33x Anthropomorphic Lens + Filters), used Sony ZVE-10s ($600 on average, sometimes can be found with the lens) and pic related if it's still available.
I'm about to go to B&H + Adorama to finger-fuck some cameras.
Don't laugh, but I only considered the R50 because Reddit won't shut the fuck up about it after lurking and Ken Rockwell likes it. It seems like a great beginner camera purely due to the software/processor being shared with the R6/R8