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how do I get into medium format without spending a shit load of money? I'm not talking about the film itself, a 15 roll of 120 for using 645 cameras costs the same as a 36 roll of portra so I literally don't care about that. but the cameras themselves are fucking stupid money for a mirror box and a lens, they don't even come with prisms 99% of the time and those cost as much as the rest of the camera, oh you wanted a film back so you can actually take pictures? $400, oh you wanted a dark slide with your film back? fuck you $120, no none of this works I found all this shit in the hands of a skeleton trapped in a car in the hudson river, [MINT++++] no offers, no returns, you organise freight.