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I want to learn

ISO cam Wed 29 Apr 2015 12:42:22 No.2573198 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>2573201 >>2573205 >>2573470 >>2574146 >>2576735 >>2577931 >>2580025 >>2580446 >>2580851

Sup guys, I have absolutely zero experience of knowledge in photography but I want to start. I need some advice and opinions on what I could buy as a cheap but good camera to start learning. Keep in mind I am a student living abroad from my parents, therefore I don't have much of a big budget...

TL;DR: I need a cheap but good cam to learn basics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Apr 2015 12:45:02 No.2573200 Report

Quoted By: >>2573501

a5000 ,nex-5, nx300

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Apr 2015 12:45:23 No.2573201 Report

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>>2573198
read the damn sticky
it's there so we don't have this exact thread every hour

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Apr 2015 12:53:30 No.2573205 Report

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>>2573198
>i have no experience
>i dont know shit
>i dont have camera
>i dont have money
>what do i do /p/ pls help
here we go again

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Apr 2015 14:29:25 No.2573251 Report

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It depends.
Bye.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 29 Apr 2015 18:40:00 No.2573396 Report

Quoted By: >>2573401 >>2573495 >>2576737

Slightly related:

>female friend sees some of my photos and asks me if I can teach her how to shoot
>I ask what camera she has
>"I've got an IPhone :)"
>mfw

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Apr 2015 18:43:30 No.2573401 Report

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>>2573396

Your loss.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Apr 2015 19:58:47 No.2573470 Report

Quoted By: >>2577571 >>2577925

>>2573198
just get a nikon d3200 w/ kit lens

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Apr 2015 20:30:28 No.2573495 Report

Quoted By: >>2573507 >>2574145

>>2573396
You do know that there is more to photography than owning a system camera right ? You could teach her about composition, post processing, lighting , introduce her to some cool photographers like bresson and salgado. But no you are not a photographer, you are a camera technician.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Apr 2015 20:35:46 No.2573501 Report

Quoted By: >>2574004 >>2574142

>>2573200
What this guy said op, and read up about exposure and composition, look up the channel art of photography to get to know some nice photographers and get inspiration and the tonynorthrup channel as wel for more tips about some specific type of photography, just buy one of those cameras with the 18-50 or 18-55 kit lens, that is all you will ever need to get on learning. Buying a canon rebel is just waste of money. Canon has the worst crop system out there. If you really want a DSLR go for the nikon d3200

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isi !ePGHMxQmE2 Wed 29 Apr 2015 20:39:38 No.2573507 Report

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>>2573495
But then he wouldn't feel as justified in considering her a pleb because, really, his experience is just as limited but more sadly so as it's not the gear.

Life as anon sounds horrible. :(

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2015 18:25:09 No.2574004 Report

Quoted By: >>2574139

>>2573501
>Buying a canon rebel is just waste of money
Not actually true

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2015 18:30:41 No.2574010 Report

Quoted By: >>2574022

Not OP but similar question. Would a Canon EOS 20D with an EF 23-80 lens be ok for learning the basics of using an DSLR? And is 60 pounds an alright price to pay for it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2015 18:42:55 No.2574022 Report

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>>2574010
Yep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2015 21:33:58 No.2574139 Report

Quoted By: >>2574143

>>2574004
with the options we have today, yeah it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2015 21:47:06 No.2574142 Report

Quoted By: >>2574427

>>2573501
>Canon has the worst crop system out there

mind expanding on that one?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2015 21:47:40 No.2574143 Report

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>>2574139
what if it's a film body

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2015 21:55:49 No.2574145 Report

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>>2573495
THIS.

I laugh when I see comments like his. or those threads where people complain about newbies yet tell them to fuck off instead of giving some pointers.

I find it twice as hilarious when they condemn simple setups (whether phone or a beginner can/nikon model).

The circlejerk never ends

>anon spots newb with simple setup
>"hurrr rabal xD get fool frame!"
>anon spots newb with high-end setup
>"hurrr waste of money, should've stuck to your iphone!"

lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2015 21:55:51 No.2574146 Report

Quoted By: >>2574421 >>2577425

>>2573198
Get a Pentax K-50 or K-S2. You are welcome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 May 2015 11:58:25 No.2574411 Report

Quoted By: >>2577950

I think the most important thing to keep in mind is that understanding the fundamentals of photography (composition, lighting, basic operation of a camera) is MUCH more important than having a nice camera. I would recommend checking out the US Navy photojournalism course. It's quite extensive, and covers a lot of fundamentals to photography. Secondly, I would study photographers; try finding one you like. I'll just throw out a couple for you (Cartier-Bresson / Alfred Stieglitz / Vivian Maier). AFTER, you've done this, then look for a camera, for now, you'd be ok with sticking with a cheap point and shoot.

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Anonymous Fri 01 May 2015 12:27:26 No.2574421 Report

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>>2574146
2nded

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 May 2015 12:40:35 No.2574427 Report

Quoted By: >>2574492

>>2574142
Not op but.
They're about a decade behind everyone else with regards to the quality of their sensors.
You've also got a limited lens selection as canon gimped out old sigma stuff and created a special mount just for digital and then another just for aps-c. Whereas any nikon slr lens fits on any nikon slr camera from the past 50 years+.

Canon, literally worse at everything apart from customer service.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 May 2015 15:16:26 No.2574492 Report

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>>2574427
Canons great for their simplicity and if you are a pro using pro gear but they're just not great at anything other than having a stable system and UI/workflow.

there's cameras that cna be had for cheaper with better IQ and functions for alot cheaper.

Like don't get me wrong I liked my canons, they just felt really drab. Just got a Fuji XE-2 with lens turbo and some old glass and it's a million times better for what I shoot and actually makes me happy to shoot again.

And fuck me sideways, the JPEGs are gorgeous... The amount of detail you can pull out of the RAWs just gives me a massive grin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 May 2015 00:01:52 No.2576583 Report

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Hi /p/. I have a friend who asked me to teach her about photography.
she doesn't read English so the books are out of the equation.
I thought that maybe if I show her that video of a bald guy taking photos at boats and tea fields... you know who am I talking about.
Anyway, what's the name of that /p/hag or the video sauce, please?

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Anonymous Tue 05 May 2015 05:20:25 No.2576735 Report

Quoted By: >>2576794 >>2576806 >>2576815 >>2580446

>>2573198
Here's the gear you need at a bare minimum.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 May 2015 05:30:01 No.2576737 Report

Quoted By: >>2576740

>>2573396
You dense mofo, you could have at least teach her "composition", unless you're not into vaginas

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 May 2015 05:34:21 No.2576740 Report

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>>2576737
like most people here, he's autistic and doesn't understand how to talk to girls

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 May 2015 08:57:25 No.2576794 Report

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>>2576735

The 'I have alot of money and I want to look like a pro photographer, even though I'm a novice" starter kit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 May 2015 09:52:48 No.2576806 Report

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>>2576735
>not starting with the 24-70 f2.8

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 May 2015 10:22:10 No.2576815 Report

Quoted By: >>2577921

>>2576735
Or buy the d610 and get a better yet cheaper camera

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 May 2015 03:35:56 No.2577425 Report

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>>2574146
Nex3 is better and cheaper.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 May 2015 12:34:55 No.2577571 Report

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>>2573470
seconds that

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 May 2015 00:00:40 No.2577921 Report

Quoted By: >>2577923

>>2576815
>d610
>better
topkek

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 May 2015 00:03:36 No.2577923 Report

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>>2577921

http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Ratings

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 May 2015 00:04:37 No.2577925 Report

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>>2573470

This be your solution here, OP.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 07 May 2015 00:07:45 No.2577931 Report

Quoted By: >>2577938 >>2578186

>>2573198
First, get a Pentax.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 May 2015 00:14:51 No.2577938 Report

Quoted By: >>2577939

>>2577931

>Tells OP to buy Pentax
>Justification is a bunch of dumb whores
>Almost half of them taking selfies in a mirror

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 May 2015 00:16:08 No.2577939 Report

Quoted By: >>2579990

>>2577938
He's trolling, dipshit.

That being said, Pentax does have the entry level market on lockdown. Troll of not, it isn't a bad recommendation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 May 2015 00:25:40 No.2577950 Report

Quoted By: >>2578185

>>2574411
>you'd be ok with sticking with a cheap point and shoot.

Bad advice. With most cheap point and shoot cameras you can't adjust aperture and exposure time (often not even ISO), and I'd argue that knowledge of how all these variables influence a photo is important from the beginning. A point and shoot that has all these options on the other hand costs about the same as a cheap DSLR, so I'd recommend the DSLR.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 May 2015 10:05:12 No.2578185 Report

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>>2577950
You're right, my mistake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 May 2015 10:11:31 No.2578186 Report

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>>2577931
all dem pentax aznqts

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 May 2015 16:25:49 No.2579990 Report

Quoted By: >>2580510

>>2577939
I was thinking of getting Pentax k5 ii, is this a sloe camera for a beginner or should I get something else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 May 2015 17:59:11 No.2580025 Report

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>>2573198
you can start by leaving 4chin

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 04:25:08 No.2580446 Report

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>>2573198

This OP >>2576735

Also add a nice lens like the 85mm 1.2 L II USM

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 08:05:57 No.2580510 Report

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>>2579990
It's as good for a beginner as everything else. The question you are looking for is "Is this a good camera for when I will know what I'm doing?"
And the answer is it's an exceptionally good camera for anyone who knows what they are doing. This is why I got a K-3. I have no idea what the half of the options do, but a few years later I'll be able to use it fully without the need to buy a better body. Also it costs as much as any plastic fantastic D700 Rebal.

Oussamodas

Oussamodas Mon 11 May 2015 09:18:28 No.2580529 Report

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Get a Nikon 3300D or a Canon 700D. Compare between these two in www.snapsort.com

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 19:13:15 No.2580851 Report

Quoted By: >>2580853 >>2580868

>>2573198
I'm just trying to start as well.
I'm gonna start with a Nikon D5300
It's a good one to start with and it's cheep with a cheep good kit lens.
BTW give a visit to kenrockwell.com it's a really good website, research a little bit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 19:15:18 No.2580853 Report

Quoted By: >>2580877

>>2580851
>ken rockwell
Can't decide if serious or troll.

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Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 19:46:58 No.2580868 Report

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>>2580851
And be sure to donate to Ken for his growing family.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 19:59:51 No.2580877 Report

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>>2580853

One day you will find truth in the teaching of lord rockwell. You will not be a true photographer until then. May Rockwell bless you.

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