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Anonymous Sat 02 May 2015 15:20:53 No.2575034 View View Reply Original Report

hello /p/
since the moon was near full a few nights ago I tried taking some photos in the moonlight. Despite setting the ISO pretty low the photos still have lots of sensor noise. Does anyone know why this might be? I'll post a couple photos as examples.

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Anonymous Sat 02 May 2015 15:21:37 No.2575037 Report

Quoted By: >>2575038

>>2575034

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Anonymous Sat 02 May 2015 15:22:41 No.2575038 Report

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>>2575037

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Anonymous Sat 02 May 2015 15:48:51 No.2575044 Report

Quoted By: >>2575049

Probably hot pixels.
Did you use the 3200's long exposure noise reduction thingy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2015 15:49:51 No.2575046 Report

Quoted By: >>2575049

>>2575034
>noise

1. You are using a crop plastic fantastic beginner DSLR with shitty outdated sensor technology
2. From the aperture it looks like you were using your kit lens. Throw it out and get some decent lenses with at least f/2 aperture.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2015 15:55:30 No.2575049 Report

Quoted By: >>2575052

>>2575044
Didn't use the long exposure noise reduction. Didn't know that's a thing

>>2575046
Yeah I just bought the kit lens, it has served me pretty well in most situations up to this point. What sensor technologies are better for long / low light exposure?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2015 16:04:18 No.2575052 Report

Quoted By: >>2575473

>>2575049
Pretty much all the newest APS-C sensors have decent performance in low light, but if you want good quality you will need at least FF or MF (645z).
For example the 60D is a common hobby deep sky astro body, hardcore enthusiasts get 60Da or 6Da. A Pentax DSLR with the GPS addon can track the sky with sensor shifting and can go as low as ISO 80 making them great for beginner astro.
D3200 can make some surprisingly good shots but not with the kit lens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2015 17:09:35 No.2575087 Report

Quoted By: >>2575103

Why are you at f22 or greater?
Pop that down to f6ish and reduce your shutter speed accordingly.

Sensors heat up as they're used, a hot sensor reduces it's snr, 30 seconds or less with a 30 second gap between shots should keep your images cleaner.

Dark frame stacking can also help, but it's a faff and effectively the same thing as the built in long exposure solution on the camera.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2015 17:40:20 No.2575103 Report

Quoted By: >>2575396

>>2575087
He probably used Auto

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 May 2015 02:25:09 No.2575396 Report

Quoted By: >>2575483 >>2575512

>>2575103
No, it was mostly because it was really difficult to focus with almost no light so I tried to compensate by setting the aperture small

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 May 2015 06:09:30 No.2575473 Report

Quoted By: >>2575477

>>2575052
Nothing wrong with the kit lens of you know how to use it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 May 2015 07:03:38 No.2575477 Report

Quoted By: >>2575512 >>2576074

>>2575473
Nikon kit lens are a shit. OP if you want to make great lowlight pictures then get a fast prime like a 50mm f/1.8

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 May 2015 08:07:41 No.2575483 Report

Quoted By: >>2575512

>>2575396
...what? Aperture has nothing to do with focusing. But you shouldn't even try to AF in these conditions, just focus to infinity and disable AF.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 May 2015 09:44:09 No.2575512 Report

Quoted By: >>2576074

>>2575396
Can you magnify live view? Focus first to infinity, focusing on a star, stop down your lens to f8, pull focus towards you until the star you're focusing on remains just in focus. Huzzah, hyperfocal distance.

To keep stars from leaving trails set your shutter speed no slower than 600/focal length, (20mm = 30 second exposure) and set your iso so you get the best balance of noise and exposure.

>>2575477
This guys a fucking moron, nothing wrong with the kit lens. Bad photographers always place blame on gear.

>>2575483
Another shining example of what not to do

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2015 07:04:48 No.2576074 Report

Quoted By: >>2576103 >>2576133

>>2575512
>>2575477
I have to agree to some degree. Canons kitlens were legendary atrocious but they upped their game. Pentax and Sony don't have a big lens lineup so they had to make better kit lens, or more precisely they couldn't afford to put bad lens on their cameras. With that Nikon is the one with the worst kit lens from the bunch but with that said all the kit lens are actually quite good in terms of quality and are capable of taking good photos.
So if someone is looking for an entry level DSLR/MILC with no intent of getting any lens other than the kit lens, I always recommend they get a Canon or a Sony. Pentax if they are low on budget.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2015 09:09:19 No.2576103 Report

Quoted By: >>2576119

>>2576074
Why would you recommend canon when the difference between canon and everyone else's sensor is far, far greater than the difference between a nikon kit lens and an otus?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2015 11:55:13 No.2576119 Report

Quoted By: >>2576129

>>2576103
Because those who don't bother getting better more specialized lens don't bother about sensor size or quality.
Canon and Sony customer service coverage is the best in my country. Nikon service is a shit, they are literally a bunch of assholes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2015 12:34:54 No.2576129 Report

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>>2576119
So it would definitely be better to never recommend canon? Also, the real world differences between kit lenses is practically non existent. So yeah, definitely never canon, but sony, pentax and nikon are just fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2015 12:45:02 No.2576133 Report

Quoted By: >>2576138 >>2576139

>>2576074
Also, speaking of kit lenses, do I have to buy a new lens if I want to get better at photography, or will the kit do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2015 13:00:21 No.2576138 Report

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>>2576133
Kit lens is perfect for learning the trade, and doing so you start to outgrow its capabilities. You will know when you think "damn I need this and that but my lens can't do that", like needing more light, better telephoto range, wider photo etc...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 May 2015 13:02:56 No.2576139 Report

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>>2576133
The kit is absolutely perfect.
Unless you need something closer, longer or wider, or you need something more reliable in low light action photography.

If you're under the impression it isn't sharp enough, pop it on a tripod on a self timer after focusing via live view, stop down to f7 or f8 at Base iso.

Bring into lightroom, sharpen, export at 2k on the longest edge, Marvel at how it's as sharp as you would ever need.

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