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Stupid questions thread

Anonymous Tue 06 Oct 2015 20:55:14 No.2680703 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>2680704 >>2680869 >>2683424 >>2684125 >>2685046 >>2685825 >>2689351 >>2689693 >>2693963 >>2702529 >>2704777

>old one 3hunna

guys, how do I shoot a photo like pic-related? what setup do i have to use, or anything in photoshop? i like the old photo feeling. i have some hasselblads and also a nikon d4 if that helps.

cheers<3

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Oct 2015 20:56:50 No.2680704 Report

Quoted By: >>2680706

>>2680703
I'm afraid you're going to have to upgrade your gear to get that kind of look.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Oct 2015 20:59:24 No.2680706 Report

Quoted By: >>2680883

>>2680704
what do i need? i swear this is like my holy grail esque photo, help me bro

>inb4 bait

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Oct 2015 00:33:42 No.2680824 Report

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email the girl who left her watermark on the picture and ask her what she did

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Oct 2015 01:49:44 No.2680862 Report

Quoted By: >>2680866

If a camera can shoot at 16 mega pixels, is there any reason to shoot at a lower resolution (say 4mp)?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Oct 2015 01:55:30 No.2680866 Report

Quoted By: >>2680868

>>2680862
Faster transfer, faster processing, fit more in the same storage,

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Oct 2015 01:59:02 No.2680868 Report

Quoted By: >>2680954

>>2680866
So higher resolution = higher quality = bigger file size? Thanks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Oct 2015 01:59:13 No.2680869 Report

Quoted By: >>2681053

>>2680703
Torrent vsco film 06

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Oct 2015 02:47:27 No.2680883 Report

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>>2680706
iPhone 4

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Oct 2015 06:24:11 No.2680954 Report

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>>2680868
In a nutshell, yes. Now, that wasn't hard, was it, Einstein?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Oct 2015 11:18:03 No.2681053 Report

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>>2680869
Thanks! Do you suggest a specific preset?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Oct 2015 12:41:49 No.2681087 Report

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Using a f/3.5 1.6x crop fisheye on a 2.0x would mean it's something like f/4.7, right? But as the 2.0x still gets most of the light from the lens, that's not really correct, is it? The 2.0x crops only bits of the top and bottom of the actual fisheye image (a circle in the middle of the screen), so in effect I still have a f/3.5 fisheye despite the move from 1.6x to 2.0x crop?

Tipsy R !!rEkSWzi2+mz

Tipsy R !!rEkSWzi2+mz Fri 09 Oct 2015 22:25:11 No.2682437 Report

Quoted By: >>2683393

Midaswell be a fag and post with a trip about this.

I saw another anon in the last SQT regaurding a EOS 650 (not 650D) with a YN50mm 1.8 that he got from his ex. I sort of assumed it worked for him and her since he wasn't asking about the gear in particular, though for me I keep getting the "bc" error in AF and manual every time I attach it to the mount. Somebody regarded it as the issue with older Canon EOS systems not being compatible with third party lenses, however that was only a Sigma thing. I've cleaned the contacts and messed with every single button with nothing happening. Oh, and thanks in advanced guys.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2015 14:51:00 No.2683353 Report

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will this lens work with a canon t2i and canon eos 650 film
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Minolta-MD-28mm-F2-8-W-Rokkor-X-Lens-28-2-8-035-/401007940490?hash=item5d5def938a#viTabs_0

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2015 16:06:12 No.2683393 Report

Quoted By: >>2683421

>>2682437

I have an EOS 650 and an EOS 5, and on both of them I get an error when I try to use my chipped M42 adapter. If I cover up the contacts to prevent communication between adapter and camera, it works just fine (but then I don't have AF confirmation).

EOS is generally really good when it comes to compatibility, but no system is perfect.

Tipsy R !!rEkSWzi2+mz

Tipsy R !!rEkSWzi2+mz Sun 11 Oct 2015 17:03:49 No.2683421 Report

Quoted By: >>2683451

>>2683393
I see. And yeah, I have heard from some people that EOS can be a hit or miss at times.

Though in the time of asking this question and now I did figure out a "solution." If I held down the button that allows you to adjust the aperature with the top dial and pressed the shutter, the camera would expose correctly without any sort of error message. Now I'm not sure if it actually exposed with the right stop settings or not due to this, but I am hoping for the best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2015 17:12:20 No.2683424 Report

Quoted By: >>2684791

>>2680703
you just have to shoot film

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2015 18:19:00 No.2683451 Report

Quoted By: >>2684615

>>2683421

Are you talking about the 'M' button near the lens mount? If so, I tried holding that down and pushing the shutter on my 650 with the adapter, but it still gives me 'bc' when I shoot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2015 19:40:50 No.2683490 Report

Quoted By: >>2684406 >>2684420

Not a question, rather asking for some tips.

I am going to shoot some paintings of a friend who wants to sell them online. Like 5000€ Paintings. I have a 6D, 24-70mm 2.8 lens, a tripod and a speedlight.

I don't have a studio or anything.

What tips could you give me?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2015 20:13:20 No.2683501 Report

Quoted By: >>2684407 >>2689356

is there a name for that thing where you should keep your shutter speed below your lens focal length or whatever?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2015 05:22:49 No.2683771 Report

Quoted By: >>2684408

Got a really stupid question for you guys.
Is it a bad idea to leave my gear in the trunk of my car under the sun regularly, as opposed to bringing it home? I live in Northern California, High temp is usually at most 75 this time of the year. I have a D3200 and a few lenses, everything costs <$700 altogether.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2015 19:23:49 No.2684125 Report

Quoted By: >>2684791

>>2680703
>and also a nikon d4

Shut up you fag... you wouldn't be asking this question if you really had a d4

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2015 19:29:45 No.2684127 Report

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I tried looking at Toshiba's website and can't find the answer there.
Will a FlashAir Class 10 wifi card work with a Nikon D7000?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2015 22:50:04 No.2684209 Report

Quoted By: >>2684214

I have a Fujica ST605 that I recently acquired. Yet to load it with film but was checking it all worked and after firing the shutter a few times the mirror locked up and won't come back down again...
Any suggestions short of taking into a shop or opening it up myself?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2015 22:56:02 No.2684213 Report

Quoted By: >>2684214 >>2684215

does it have a mirror lock up button? Might check that, happened to me a few times. Otherwise the shutter curtain might have moved which causes the mirror to be stuck also happened to me. Or your camera just died one day out of the blue, also happened to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2015 22:57:03 No.2684214 Report

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>>2684213
>>2684209

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2015 23:01:01 No.2684215 Report

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>>2684213
Had a flick through the manual and the only way I can see of achieving mirror lock up is just holding down in bulb mode. Visual inspection of the curtain doesn't suggest anything out of sorts...
Most annoying thing if that the film advance won't wind on again, so I can just re-fire the shutter mechanism to try and clear it.

DJ McGriddle

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DJ McGriddle Tue 13 Oct 2015 06:44:04 No.2684391 Report

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What your process for correcting a badly overexposed portrait in Lightroom? I did some a few days and forgot I was set to spot meter instead of evaluative.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2015 08:05:08 No.2684406 Report

Quoted By:

>>2683490
Do you know how to use the gear?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2015 08:06:11 No.2684407 Report

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>>2683501
Not really, minimum shutter speed when shooting handheld I guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2015 08:08:08 No.2684408 Report

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>>2683771
Can't be great for it being exposed to extreme temperature cycling, I wouldn't personally do it regularly if I had the choice

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2015 10:23:00 No.2684420 Report

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>>2683490
You usually want two lights at a minimum, one at 45 degree angles to the painting on either side.

I have no idea about that particular lens, but shoot whatever focal length gives you the least amount of distortion.

Shoot at 100 ISO.

Get a greycard and have it in each shot so you know your color reproduction is as accurate as possible when working on the image in post.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2015 11:27:01 No.2684438 Report

Quoted By: >>2684440 >>2684550

50mm 1.8g or 1.8d? body has an af motor

g is slighty better(?) but d is half the price

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2015 11:37:15 No.2684440 Report

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>>2684438

crop body btw

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2015 17:06:53 No.2684550 Report

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>>2684438
What's more important to you? Quality? or price?
You know all the variables, and only you can weigh your priorities. What are you hoping for here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2015 17:36:37 No.2684567 Report

Quoted By: >>2684570

Do all lenses for the same system transmit the same amount of light at f/3.5? If the aperture is locked to one number, are the camera sensor quality and shutter speed the only methods to alter the picture quality?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2015 17:38:36 No.2684570 Report

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>>2684567
Nope, google up "t-stops"

Tipsy R !!rEkSWzi2+mz

Tipsy R !!rEkSWzi2+mz Tue 13 Oct 2015 21:17:03 No.2684615 Report

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>>2683451
There's a button right above the "M" that is unlabeled. That is the one I tried and how I made it work.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2015 08:00:07 No.2684791 Report

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Op here I've made some progress on my journey

>>2683424
I tried it turned out nice but not quite what I was expecting. It's also pretty expensive so I've been messing around in photoshop for a while to emulate the effect.
>>2684125
It's not mine, it's my pops. I'm babysitting his house and get to borrow his gear.

Anyway, I think I'm getting close: I'm using Nik Analog Efex 2 and its really nice. Not quite there. I found another cool photo with the same stuff in it so I'll just attach that as well.

Anybody got any ideas on how to do it in photoshop cc?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2015 16:47:00 No.2684991 Report

Quoted By: >>2684998 >>2685073

So some people prefer film because digital doesn't render smooth tones properly.

They then scan their negatives using digital processes for printing, posting online, etc.

Doesn't this negate the benefits of shooting film in the first place?

Are negative scanners that much better in terms of image quality than a high-end sensor in a digital camera?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2015 16:51:16 No.2684998 Report

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>>2684991
Digital renders everything properly, it's you ability to bring it out in post that counts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2015 18:03:53 No.2685046 Report

Quoted By: >>2685053

>>2680703
need better raw converter software for fuji x images.
photoninja ??

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2015 18:12:37 No.2685053 Report

Quoted By:

>>2685046
Aftershot Pro 2

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2015 18:58:03 No.2685073 Report

Quoted By:

>>2684991
A digital sensor just doesn't react to light in the exact same way as the chemicals on a roll of film. You use a different method of acquisition, so you get different results.

Converting those results to digital via scanning doesn't negate that original process because digital actually has all the rendering capabilities (and more) that film has.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2015 22:59:12 No.2685201 Report

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Not exactly sure if this is related but why not.

I'm looking for good quality poster/photo frames for posters/photos.

I need big ones around 20 to 40 inches etc.

Is this one a bad idea?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-24-x-36-Poster-Frame-UNV76871-/191442582756?hash=item2c92ddfce4

If so, please direct me to some good poster frames.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2015 12:15:06 No.2685504 Report

Quoted By: >>2685512 >>2685523

I use Zenit E and some shots with higher shutter speed (1/250 or 1/500) have left side of picture underexposed. Is it because horizontally traveling shutter? Is there any fix for this too?

Pic related.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2015 12:44:44 No.2685512 Report

Quoted By: >>2685523

>>2685504
Yes, it's because of the synchro speed of the camera. You have exceeded it.
Keep it a x-30 if i remember correctly and you shouldn't have this problem
Also there is no fix to your photos, unless you crop the dark area.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2015 13:30:37 No.2685523 Report

Quoted By: >>2685525 >>2685526

>>2685512
Idiot posting, bls ignore.
>>2685504
It is because of your horizontally travelling shutter being broken. The first curtain hasn't made it all the way across the frame before the second curtain has caught up to it.
Even at slower speeds, if you look carefully you might notice an uneven amount of exposure across the frame.
Your problem is most easily fixed by throwing your Zenit in the nearest river and buying any other camera.
If you insist on continuing to use this, or if you have a sentimental reason for keeping it, you can probably still use it for flash photography, at the x-sync speed (1/30, as suggested by retard above), or long exposure photography using the bulb setting, as neither of these styles rely substantially on an accurate shutter to work properly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2015 13:37:40 No.2685525 Report

Quoted By: >>2685526

>>2685523
This anon is correct.
I think someone here did something creative with a shutter like that once by shooting the roll twice.
I don't really remember the details.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2015 13:47:15 No.2685526 Report

Quoted By: >>2685529

>>2685523
>>2685525
Thanks guys. I was thinking about Nikon FE2 or F3 but some rangefinder would be nice too.
Any recommendation on these?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2015 13:56:28 No.2685529 Report

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>>2685526
Almost any Nikon would be a revelation to you as far as quality and versatility goes.
If you want to keep with the beefy, meterless, mechanical camera (and surprisingly vibration free shutter) most leaf shuttered fixed-lense RFs should treat you nicely.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2015 23:50:48 No.2685817 Report

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does anyone know anything about photoshop scripts? I used the scripting listener to make a script to create this PNG. What I want to do is put a whole list of words into the script so that when I run it it creates a load of separate PNGs, each with a separate word and named "thatword.png"

How do I tell my script: first do it with cat, then do the same thing with dog, then tree, then box, then face, then mouse, then apple, then square... etc etc etc?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2015 00:13:37 No.2685825 Report

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>>2680703
found an old pic of him

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2015 19:47:45 No.2686248 Report

Quoted By: >>2687059

Hey guys I want to take a picture of like buildings and store fronts, what kind of camera do I need?

Do I need a medium format camera? I heard those are big

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 23:17:42 No.2686847 Report

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Anyone shoot medium format film? What is the outlay on film/scanner. I'm in the uk, what's printing like? Good quality? Where? Anyone have an xpan? Want that high res deliciousness for portraits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 05:21:22 No.2687048 Report

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I currently have a t3i, with a 50mm 1.8, a canon 75-300mm, and a tamron 17-50mm 2.8

Should I spend my money on a used body only 5d mk2 for $800 OR buy a used Canon EF 24-105mm USM ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 06:00:35 No.2687059 Report

Quoted By:

>>2686248
Ah, you want to take pictures of things? Yes, you will need a camera.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 07:33:42 No.2688420 Report

Quoted By: >>2688600

I just got my first dslr, its not the best, but its an slr.

My question is this, how do you work with raw files?

At best, my files are noisy, i'm wondering if there is anything special i can do with a raw that i wouldn't have been able to do with a jpeg or what normally comes out of a point and shoot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 09:16:01 No.2688444 Report

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should i get a ricoh gr/coolpix a or a film compact with a 35mm-40mm focal length like a contax t2 or something? digital is more convenient but i prefer the 35mm focal length to 28mm but the rx1's shape is too fucking weird to fit in a jacket pocket (and it costs too much anyway) and the x100 is too big as well

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 16:29:24 No.2688583 Report

Quoted By: >>2705445

What's the most pancake M42 lens? I can't seem to find anything smaller than the Helios 44m

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 17:05:13 No.2688600 Report

Quoted By: >>2688633

>>2688420
Noisy how? Grain is predominantly dark areas? That is caused by taking your pictures with a high ISO (sensor sensitivty). Are you testing out your camera by shooting anime figurines in a dark basement? If so that's probably the cause.

Your camera may or may not have auto ISO that can be turned off. I suggest doing that until you understand picture-taking better. I persoaly have auto ISO off and have mapped my fn key to change it.

For editing raw files try rawtherapee if you're a fosstard or Lightroom if you're a sheepish goy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 17:53:20 No.2688633 Report

Quoted By:

>>2688600
>Lightroom
any guides on this that are good? i found a 2 hour youtube, but its 2 hours for 15 things.

also there a specific version of this i should get, apparently on version 6 there are some known issues

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 00:00:38 No.2688946 Report

Quoted By: >>2689208

Poorfag and beginnerfag here

All I have is an LG Stylo smartphone. How can I get into photography and get some skills before I buy an actual camera?

Also, what're some good camera's that a poorfag can start with?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 12:35:37 No.2689141 Report

Quoted By: >>2689173 >>2689206 >>2689380 >>2691914 >>2704236

how do I fix my camera?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 14:17:25 No.2689173 Report

Quoted By:

>>2689141
with a broom

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 16:51:31 No.2689206 Report

Quoted By:

>>2689141
reassemble in reverse order

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 17:01:47 No.2689208 Report

Quoted By: >>2689835

>>2688946
>How can I get into photography and get some skills before I buy an actual camera?

this will take time, as you know. I would suggest to just take photos of everything you can, or everything you want to take photos of. Get a good grip on composition, natural lighting, and editing. Then if you are confident enough, downsize the photos and post them here and expect HARSH, but constructive criticism that you will learn from.

>Also, what're some good camera's that a poorfag can start with?

id suggest a Pentax K-50, or a Nikon d3200, shits pretty cheap on amazon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 20:47:27 No.2689347 Report

Quoted By: >>2689697

Anyone ever photographed those color run things? Is it possible to pull it off without fucking your gear up?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 20:57:48 No.2689351 Report

Quoted By: >>2689353 >>2697222 >>2697548

>>2680703
These two images get horribly compressed when I upload them anywhere, I cant escape the banding or bit crushing. They look perfectly fine on screen, but once they get uploaded, the compression destroys them. Anyway to combat this?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 20:59:10 No.2689353 Report

Quoted By: >>2689354

>>2689351

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 21:00:13 No.2689354 Report

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>>2689353

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 21:00:53 No.2689356 Report

Quoted By: >>2689377 >>2691424

>>2683501
wait, what's all this about? I have to keep the shutter below 50 if I'm using a 50mm lens? Wut

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 21:17:41 No.2689363 Report

Quoted By: >>2689377

New guy here, What is the point of ever buying a fixed lens camera? I feel like lens can be an investment that has a longer life than bodies and you can just buy a new body after a few years?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 21:44:37 No.2689377 Report

Quoted By: >>2689405

>>2689356

the old rule of thumb is that the fastest you can handhold a lens without blur is 1/focal length (so, 50mm would be 1/50, 500mm would be 1/500, 24mm would be 1/24).

This doesn't necessarily hold true anymore with today's high-resolution sensors. These days, it's closer to 1/(focal length x 2).

>>2689363

The point of a fixed-lens camera is compactness and convenience at the sacrifice of versatility. You can build both the camera and the lens much more compactly if you don't have a lens mount.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 21:55:14 No.2689380 Report

Quoted By:

>>2689141
buy an a7rii

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 22:41:17 No.2689405 Report

Quoted By: >>2691782

>>2689377
Is it related to physics or it's just a useful coincidence?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 06:49:26 No.2689630 Report

Quoted By: >>2689768

Ever feel like your skills are constantly regressing? Like the more photos you take, the worse they look compared to your older stuff that probably didn't even look that good anyway?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 11:31:11 No.2689693 Report

Quoted By: >>2689706

>>2680703
How does the shutter in a fully mechanical camera work? How is it timed? Is it similar to a watch (not that I know how mechanical watches work either).

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 11:38:33 No.2689697 Report

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>>2689347
It really fuck's your gear up, the colour dust gets inside lenses and body.
One thing you can do is buy these underwater bags for your camera. It should work pretty well

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 11:50:25 No.2689701 Report

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I'm trying to figure out a way or method to connect my off camera flashes to a studio strobe battery pack. I was given the battery pack by a friend and I figure there has to be a way to do this, DIY or not. I'd prefer solution I can just buy though.

The studio strobe battery pack has those little specialized outlets on them rather than normal American wall outlets.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 12:09:35 No.2689706 Report

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>>2689693
Magnets

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 13:22:52 No.2689730 Report

Quoted By: >>2689735 >>2698406

How come modern day short films on youtube always look too real? Like I'm seeing real life? But when I go to the cinema, it's shot in a way that looks like a film

Are different filters being used? Different frame rates? I also noticed than soap operas look different too in the sense that when I'm watching it I know this is a soap opera

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 13:28:24 No.2689733 Report

Quoted By: >>2689876

how do people get the streaming lights on roads/motorways?

do they take a pic over others? like not changing the frame on a film camera and taking pictures over the same frame?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 13:35:47 No.2689735 Report

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>>2689730
Quite right, frame rate is a big factor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 15:10:54 No.2689768 Report

Quoted By:

>>2689630
Yes, i was looking at some photos and my latest are like my worst. Why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 17:59:45 No.2689835 Report

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>>2689208
Thanks!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 18:08:47 No.2689840 Report

Quoted By: >>2690340 >>2691215

Is there a way to make the shutter on a DSLR more quiet? (specifically Canon 550D)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 19:19:28 No.2689876 Report

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>>2689733
It's called Long Exposure. They take a picture that has a shutter speed of a few seconds. Meaning the camera shutter stays open for long enough to capture motion.

You know when you take a shaky blurry pic? it's the same idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 15:38:44 No.2690334 Report

Quoted By: >>2690340

if your shooting raw, is it still important to read the historgram?

if your shooting manual do you still have to use the exposure adjustment thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 15:51:16 No.2690340 Report

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>>2689840
Some cameras have a silent shutter mode, I doubt a 550D has it.
Your mirror and curtain create noise when they flip up and expose the picture, this creates some noise and vibrations unfortunately. As you may guess, there is not much you could do to make that action quieter.
If you want to creepshot a little less obnoxious, turn of the focusing beep in your settings and get a lens that focuses quieter.

>>2690334
I'd always advise to read the histogram and fix your exposure errors on location. There is only so much you can do that home and one day you won't be able to fix your laziness in post.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 02:38:40 No.2690743 Report

Quoted By: >>2691192

Anyone know any ways how I can find out who shot this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 21:52:19 No.2691191 Report

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i want to take a picture of a really long hallway. what should i do for the depth of field and width of the lens and everything? like, 35 or 50 or 70 etc. im just looking for opinions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 21:53:46 No.2691192 Report

Quoted By:

>>2690743
google image search

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 22:18:38 No.2691215 Report

Quoted By:

>>2689840
Mirror lockup and live view. Consult your manual for more details

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 06:02:21 No.2691422 Report

Quoted By:

Where is a good place to set up an indoor studio? renting out an office space?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 06:11:42 No.2691424 Report

Quoted By:

>>2689356
jesus no

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 06:39:02 No.2691435 Report

Quoted By:

>try to clean sensor
>completely fuck it up

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:18:37 No.2691487 Report

Quoted By: >>2691783

I work in a lab, process E-6, C-41, B&W, flextight scanning etc. So lots of benefits.

However I want to move on to being able to earn more.

What kind of field should I move towards? Im not sure about transferable skills, or going back to study (30 atm, don't have a STEM degree etc).

Any ideas? Anyone done this before?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:10:46 No.2691639 Report

Quoted By: >>2701717

Can I switch lenses on a Zenit 11 while there is film in it, or will this cause light leaks?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 19:56:11 No.2691782 Report

Quoted By:

>>2689405
>is it related to physics
i mean technically. but no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 19:57:12 No.2691783 Report

Quoted By: >>2691890

>>2691487
can you hook me up with some chemicals? i want to develop my own film

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 22:59:16 No.2691890 Report

Quoted By:

>>2691783
What kind? And depends on you're country I'm not U.S.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 23:18:06 No.2691898 Report

Quoted By: >>2691991

is there any method to stop blurry long exposures with drones? also, what are these white specks in the photo?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 23:34:17 No.2691914 Report

Quoted By:

>>2689141

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:40:29 No.2691991 Report

Quoted By:

>>2691898
Put a tripod under your drone.

On a more serious note. Faster shutter speed and hover in one spot. So use close to max ISO and take like 16 shots hovering in that one spot if you don't like it noisy.

100k ISO on the A7s stacks out clean that way too for example.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:55:04 No.2692012 Report

Quoted By: >>2698407

What do you do when you have a camera with a viewfinder less than a 100% coverage?

How do I compensate knowing my developed film will have a little extra?

or did i misunderstand

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 10:05:35 No.2692124 Report

Quoted By: >>2692129 >>2692144

I have a coolpix 990, is it good to learn? Any tips on how to learn by myself?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 10:19:44 No.2692129 Report

Quoted By: >>2692144

>>2692124
You can learn something about what kinds of photos you like to take or such? Maybe also a bit about light and stuff.

But the camera is terrible IMO. Worse than most smartphone cameras.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 10:37:43 No.2692144 Report

Quoted By: >>2692152

>>2692124
*to start learning
Sorry, bad english
>>2692129
I found that it's kinda good with macros with a lot of details pictured but other than that I know almost nothing of photography and I would like to learn

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 10:50:45 No.2692152 Report

Quoted By:

>>2692144
> I found that it's kinda good with macros with a lot of details pictured
Well, if you find that it works for you, that's fine with me.

> but other than that I know almost nothing of photography and I would like to learn
Find out something specific you can't do or can't do well, and you can use a search engine. Or maybe ask how it is done.

Photography is relatively simple unqualified work anyways, most is just, well, eyeballing it. Very little science involved that isn't concealed in your gear and software.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:45:14 No.2692458 Report

Quoted By: >>2692517 >>2692891

WHAT FUCKING SETTINGS DO I USE AT NIGHT?

APERTURE?
SHUTTER SPEED?
ISO?

I USED ISO 800, AND I SET MY SHUTTER SPEED TO AUTO, THEN I SET THE APERTURE TO AROUND f/4 OR A LITTLE HIGHER AND MY AUTOMATIC SHUTTER SPEED WAS GLOWING YELLOW AND WAS QUITE SLOW

SHOULD I MANUALLY OVERRIDE IT AND MAKE IT FASTER

HOW DO I KNOW WHATS RIGHT?

THE CAMERA TELLS ME IM WRONG BUT GLOWS GREEN WHEN I INCREASE THE APERTURE TO f/1.7 BUT THAT MEANS IVE GOT A LOT OF LIGHT HITTING PLUS THE ISO IS AT 800, ISN'T THAT GONNA FUCK SHIT UP

HOW DO I KNOW WHAT'S RIGHT

(NOT USING FLASH)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:40:06 No.2692517 Report

Quoted By:

>>2692458
This is all you need to hear

Higher ISO, if it ends up being too grainy, reduce that muthafucka.

Make that aperture wide Madonna butthole.

Use a tripod, so that your shutter speed can be long and not blurred.

Thats literally it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:14:26 No.2692859 Report

Quoted By: >>2692893 >>2692902 >>2693873

Hey/p!
I just entared the photography world and every time I take a picture outside the sky are too white.
I cant manage to take a picture with bothe the sky be visibale and the ground.
What am I doing worng?
I tried to raise the shutter speed and the f number but when i can see the sky well the object on the ground is too dark.

Im using X E 2 with kit lens.
Thanks!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:27:25 No.2692891 Report

Quoted By:

>>2692458
I'm purposefully not answering you because you're a fucking faggot who typed his entire post in caps.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:29:35 No.2692893 Report

Quoted By: >>2692899

>>2692859
In high contrast situations, your camera will do its best to capture both highlights, and shadows, but it will fail a lot of the time, because the difference is just too dramatic. I can guess you're shooting JPEG, since you are struggling with fairly basic concepts, so you may try turning the contrast all the way down on your settings, but generally you want to shoot a scene where your subject is lit brightly, so that it doesn't become silhouetted against the sky.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:40:56 No.2692899 Report

Quoted By: >>2692908

>>2692893
So how should i take a view pictures?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:43:39 No.2692902 Report

Quoted By: >>2692904

>>2692859
take two pictures with different exposure, one for the sky and one for the ground, and stitch them together afterwards.
or buy a gray filter that you put over the lens where the sky is, so the sky gets less exposure.
or just turn around and shoot in another direction -- you're probably shooting in counterlight. photographies are usually better when you have the sun in your back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:46:02 No.2692904 Report

Quoted By:

>>2692902
gradient filter*

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:53:31 No.2692908 Report

Quoted By:

>>2692899
What

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:56:59 No.2692909 Report

Quoted By: >>2692929 >>2693876

How would you guys define ownership of a photo if I took it, and a friend (with my permission) edited it?

I used to do this for 4 months before realising I'm not bad, that I should keep control of anything I take and that I'm better at editing than my friend.

They now want to use it in a book, I only want it in there if I'm properly credited but think if I say that they'll say they edited it...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:06:52 No.2692929 Report

Quoted By: >>2692930

>>2692909
you are the owner of the image, without doubt. you doesnt have the right to use the edited picture, but he hasnt either, without your permission.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:07:53 No.2692930 Report

Quoted By:

>>2692929
dont*

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:21:01 No.2693818 Report

Quoted By: >>2693855

is the viewfinder different to the developed slr picture?

or is the viewfinder exactly what im going to get?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 22:33:44 No.2693855 Report

Quoted By:

>>2693818
Depends on the SLR, some Nikon have a sort of DoF preview and not all have 100% coverage cause they cheaped out on the mirror, but generally yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 22:56:52 No.2693873 Report

Quoted By:

>>2692859
Properly expose the sky at normal levels and get a flash + slight diffusion for your subject. Get a flash that can work for your camera past the 1/250 limit and you're set

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 22:59:10 No.2693876 Report

Quoted By:

>>2692909
You should make an equal licensing agreement on paper with your friend on each photo you "collaborate" with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 01:17:07 No.2693963 Report

Quoted By:

>>2680703
Hello, is canon 50mm 1.8 good for night photos?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 20:08:35 No.2694865 Report

Quoted By: >>2694873 >>2710720 >>2710742

really stupid question here.
What is RAW and why should I shoot on RAW?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 20:31:10 No.2694873 Report

Quoted By: >>2694876

>>2694865
a file format different than a .JPEG where there's more data within the picture file to work with when editing/post-processing the photo. It makes a huge difference, but the only downside is 30MB files.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 20:36:24 No.2694876 Report

Quoted By: >>2694877 >>2694922

>>2694873
huge differece in what?
as a begginer, do you suggest me to use RAW?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 20:42:18 No.2694877 Report

Quoted By:

>>2694876
Well, in laymans terms, its just more effective in editing. You can get away with more, without the picture starting to look crap. You can also change the white balance after you take the photo, which is the most magical part.

I wouldnt bother if you're just beginning.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 21:46:11 No.2694922 Report

Quoted By:

>>2694876
In information. For example, if you over or underexpose an image, you'll be able to recover more detail in a RAW file than a JPEG.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 21:49:42 No.2694923 Report

Quoted By: >>2694926 >>2695078

I want to take more pictures. I want to take them all the time, and have a camera with me a lot more often. Here's the problem: I have a DSLR, and that is not exactly "portable"... It would be cool to be able to carry a camera with me in my jeans pockets while at work, class, etc + take photos of whatever, whenever. What do you guys recommend? It has to be digital, because I don't have the time to be bothered with film.

I currently use a Pentax K-50 with a kit lens (I hate this lens btw)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 21:51:50 No.2694926 Report

Quoted By: >>2694931

>>2694923
RICOH GR
I
C
O
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G
R

Or any other compact with aps-c sensor really.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 21:56:26 No.2694931 Report

Quoted By: >>2694943

>>2694926
Thanks mate. That actually looks really nice. A bit pricey for what I'm trying to accomplish though. A bunch of people keep telling me to buy the Yashica T4 for some reason (probably because Terry R. uses it), but it uses film. Is there anything that's digital, and around the same price as the Yashica T4 with similar/equal specs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 22:14:07 No.2694943 Report

Quoted By:

>>2694931
There was Nikon Coolpix A for 300$ quite some time. Not sure what it costs now.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 31 Oct 2015 04:00:49 No.2695066 Report

Quoted By: >>2710721

Any recommendations for channels to follow?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Oct 2015 04:55:28 No.2695078 Report

Quoted By:

>>2694923
Used rx100 off eBay

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 31 Oct 2015 05:01:19 No.2695080 Report

Quoted By: >>2695082

I have a stupid question.
If my girlfriend texts me a picture. Is there any possible way for me to see when that picture was taken without me going through her phone?

I wish to know when the picture was taken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Oct 2015 05:06:47 No.2695082 Report

Quoted By: >>2695083

>>2695080
It might have EXIF data. I think iPhones attach EXIF.
You can see some EXIF data in file properties in Windows or using certain software.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Oct 2015 05:11:15 No.2695083 Report

Quoted By: >>2695101 >>2695109

>>2695082
The exif don't seem to give any info sadly. Maybe I'm not using a good site?

I feel like exif used to reveal camera types and everything. Now it doesn't tell much at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Oct 2015 07:05:46 No.2695101 Report

Quoted By:

>>2695083

just post it here yo

easy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Oct 2015 07:24:58 No.2695109 Report

Quoted By:

>>2695083
I use the program exiftool to check EXIF. Gives full detail (assuming it exists).

BritishPetrol

BritishPetrol Sat 31 Oct 2015 16:20:50 No.2695238 Report

Quoted By: >>2695322

Can I post retouched images in this board for critique if I wasn't the one who took them?
If no what board or what site that is active and is not Behance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Oct 2015 22:28:07 No.2695322 Report

Quoted By:

>>2695238
Yeah, what's not welcome here is
>can u maek epic meme!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 13:39:25 No.2696895 Report

Quoted By: >>2697169

I don't know shit about lighting. I've read a few tutorials online, but I don't even have a tripod or a light stand so I can't actually practice any of this on myself at home. How would I go about incorporating studio lighting techniques if I'm shooting people inside a comic book convention? I'm guessing I should try to find a darkly lit area inside the convention center, stick an external flash on a light stand and position it to wherever these guides say the light source should be. Would this be practical or even doable considering what the typical convention setting is like? Would I even find a dark enough area to pull this off?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2015 02:31:10 No.2697159 Report

Quoted By:

I want to self publish my first photo book. What service should I look at going with?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2015 03:06:41 No.2697169 Report

Quoted By: >>2697170

>>2696895
Get a tripod first off.

Even a cheap 20usd one will suit your needs so far. The external flash is a good idea, and the dark corner is how most studios work, so you're good there.

But I highly suggest picking up actual books on how studio lighting works.

And invest in a remote for your camera if you cant get assistants.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2015 03:07:42 No.2697170 Report

Quoted By:

>>2697169
>books
Or just read the strobist...

(s) a (g) e

(s) a (g) e Wed 04 Nov 2015 04:43:19 No.2697222 Report

Quoted By:

>>2689351
Stand far away and zoom in on the action with a 400mm lens

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2015 18:23:10 No.2697521 Report

Quoted By:

How do I get better at focusing manually? My K-50 lets out a *BEEP* when it is "in focus", but is there a way to do this by eye? I say this because my kit lens (18-55) will often times make me miss a shot if the subject is moving. Autofocus will tweak out & not allow me to trigger the shutter. Meanwhile, if I switch to manual focus, I can fire off as many shots as I need. But when I do this, the photo can often times come out a bit shabby. As in, not as sharp as I would like it to be. Thanks in advance, mates.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2015 18:50:52 No.2697532 Report

Quoted By: >>2698071

I recently got a rangefinder and I took a test roll yesterday.

The shots I got that were in focus I was happy with but some other shots had some missed focus due to flare on the rangefinder patch. Is there a way to avoid this or am I going to be stuck just using hyperfocal scale and using the viewfinder only for framing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2015 19:13:19 No.2697548 Report

Quoted By:

>>2689351
Compress them yourself, and don't post them to sites that do compression.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2015 14:45:13 No.2698069 Report

Quoted By: >>2698112

My Stupid Question...
Why is the ISO stepped like it was film e.g. 100 ISO 200 ISO. if you had the camera set to the aperture and shutter speed you wanted and had auto ISO on (not that i ever do) why can't the camera just select the right ISO for those perpetrators and come up with an ISO of say 341 or similar such odd numbers to give the desired results? Anyone know why they don't work this way?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2015 14:46:22 No.2698071 Report

Quoted By: >>2698115 >>2706644

>>2697532
use a hood to prevent flare

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2015 16:18:59 No.2698112 Report

Quoted By: >>2698136

>>2698069
My Nikon uses small increments for auto ISO.
Could be a setting.

Sensors do tend to perform slightly better at certain ISO settings, so lowering ISO a little bit is not always beneficial.

Also, post processing can be easier if your images can be grouped into fixed ISO values.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2015 16:20:57 No.2698115 Report

Quoted By: >>2698136

>>2698071
I think he meant he got flare in the viewfinder, not in the image.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2015 17:05:30 No.2698136 Report

Quoted By: >>2706644

>>2698112
My Pentax does less than full stops but not random numbers like 341

>>2698115
Oops, Viewfinder hood? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2015 17:40:06 No.2698171 Report

Quoted By: >>2701711

Well, this is very retard. When i use the viewfinder of my mirrorless, i cant see the shutter speed/ aperture light changes until i take the pic, why is this and with film cameras is the same?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2015 23:27:31 No.2698406 Report

Quoted By: >>2698467

>>2689730
>How come modern day short films on youtube always look too real? Like I'm seeing real life? But when I go to the cinema, it's shot in a way that looks like a film
>Are different filters being used? Different frame rates? I also noticed than soap operas look different too in the sense that when I'm watching it I know this is a soap opera

Yeah when they make a movie they just put a film filter in front of the camera, change the frame rate on the camera to 24p, and then presto! it looks like a movie now!

Actually though it has to do with how they designed the lighting. Usually Feature films have very carefully controlled lighting to make it look a certain way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Nov 2015 23:28:41 No.2698407 Report

Quoted By:

>>2692012
crop the image in the blackroom if you have something extra you didn't want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2015 00:44:24 No.2698467 Report

Quoted By:

>>2698406
>muh depth of field
>muh aspect ratio
>muh field of view
>muh perspective

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 06 Nov 2015 14:40:05 No.2698813 Report

Quoted By: >>2704774

Simple question. What country would you personally want to travel to the most, strictly for the purpose of taking photos and what not? What countries that you've actually visited has been your favorite?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 03:50:05 No.2699219 Report

Quoted By: >>2699228 >>2700630

Why don't the mirrorless camera makers built the Aperture mechanism into the camera itself?

I got the idea from seeing an adapter like this, it has 14 blades, far more than certain lenses which sometimes have 9 or even 7 blades only.

Wouldn't it make more sense to have Aperture mechanism in the camera?
-You save a lot of weight in a backpack, instead of having 5 lenses which aperture rings/barrels, you only need 1 in the camera.
-The weight is shifting from lens end to body end, making the system more comfortable to hold.
-Lens manufacturers will save a ton of cost. This cost will transfer to the consumer, who gets cheaper lenses, and lighter lenses.
-You could even turn it into a Leaf shutter, and remove the other curtain shutter behind it. This one is optional of course.

So why not?
When Sony made a new system like the E-mount, surely they could have thought about this, and designed it into E-Mount specs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Nov 2015 04:36:21 No.2699228 Report

Quoted By:

>>2699219
I'm definitely not an expert on lens construction, but:
- Often the apertures are between different elements of glass. This might be fore better bokeh or shorter lenses.
- An F 1.8 aperture in one lens might not have the same physical size of an F 1.8 aperture in another.
- You might want to maintain comparability with older lenses.

Idono man I'm just a dog

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 06:10:12 No.2700622 Report

Quoted By: >>2700665

Why is F1.8 such a popular Aperture, when in reality it's F2 that is precisely "1 stop" faster than F2.8?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 07:03:01 No.2700630 Report

Quoted By: >>2705455

>>2699219

I don't think the physical distance between the camera sensor/film is constant relative to the aperature blades of all lenses. I'm sure there are plenty of reasons why it would't work. You would also have some wierdass f/numbers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 08:10:56 No.2700655 Report

Quoted By: >>2700666

So why hasn't anyone tried to make a mirrorless camera with a non changeable lens? Something like a 50mm 1.8 since it's babby's first lens anyway. Basically a point and shoot, just not shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 08:38:37 No.2700665 Report

Quoted By:

>>2700622
As a wild guess, perhaps 1.8 was the best that many lens formulas could do successfully in the olden days.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 08:40:12 No.2700666 Report

Quoted By: >>2700674

>>2700655
But they have. They're called compacts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 09:30:46 No.2700674 Report

Quoted By: >>2700677

>>2700666
I said not shit though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 09:47:16 No.2700677 Report

Quoted By:

>>2700674
Coolpix A, Ricoh GR, Sony RX1

These are compacts, fixed lens, not shit. First two are 16mp APS-C sensors with 28mm lenses, the latter is a full frame 24(I think)mp sensor with a 35mm lens

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Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 18:20:10 No.2700917 Report

Quoted By: >>2702608 >>2704775

found the thread! ok!
should I buy a 1 year warranty on a refurbished Sigma 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 DC MACROS OS?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Nov 2015 17:51:52 No.2701711 Report

Quoted By:

>>2698171
When you are talking about an optical view finder, then notice that it does not 'look' through your lens. .. because it's >mirrorless<.
The shutter speed isn't noticeable on SLRs also.
An advantage of electronic view finders is, that this is like the only way to see instantly the effekt of all settings, including the effektive bokeh and shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Nov 2015 17:58:51 No.2701717 Report

Quoted By:

>>2691639
well ... think about it ... if the shutter wouldn't be closed like ALWAYS except when shooting a picture ... what would happen ... hm? what you guess?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Nov 2015 21:12:25 No.2702529 Report

Quoted By: >>2702585

>>2680703
Can I get my camera to automatically focus without holding down the shootting button? EOS Rebel T1i

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Nov 2015 23:23:19 No.2702585 Report

Quoted By:

>>2702529
google custom functions, and af/ae lock.
You can program the autofocus to work from the asterisk button under your right thumb.
It's how every non-mom uses autofocus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Nov 2015 00:03:29 No.2702608 Report

Quoted By:

>>2700917
It's a shit lens. Don't buy it, anon.

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Anonymous Thu 12 Nov 2015 10:44:46 No.2702768 Report

Quoted By: >>2702772 >>2702914

If I'm using the light meter in my camera and it's centered at zero, does that mean if I fire an external flash that the extra light from the flash would overexpose the subject?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Nov 2015 10:57:24 No.2702772 Report

Quoted By:

>>2702768
Depends if it's TTL or manual

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 12 Nov 2015 16:39:06 No.2702911 Report

Quoted By: >>2702914

How do you guys feel about photographers who shoot in a certain style and have very minimal variations to their work? Yeah, I realize these are all headshots and there's only so much you can do with them. Individually I think they're great, but seeing them together irks me for some reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Nov 2015 16:43:24 No.2702914 Report

Quoted By:

>>2702911
This is the sign of a working photographer, where consistency and a lack of risk taking are considered a good bankable thing. That's the work that gets steady booking.

It's not meant to be art. You may be "irked" because you're looking for the art and the progress you've been told to judge a photographer by.

>>2702768
If the flash isn't affecting the exposure at all, and the flash is not dialed way back, and the scene is one that can be affected by a flash, yes, it will add some exposure. Generally you'll notice it most in the shadows.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Nov 2015 17:55:20 No.2702947 Report

Quoted By:

Is photoshop CC really better than CS6? Got a new pc and I'm not sure which one to get.

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Anonymous Thu 12 Nov 2015 17:55:20 No.2702948 Report

Quoted By: >>2702950

>getting a $150 amazon gift card from work
Can I get a decent camera for that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Nov 2015 17:59:16 No.2702950 Report

Quoted By:

>>2702948
Not really, no, but it can supplement the purchase of an older used camera that doesn't suck.

Depends on what you're looking for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2015 19:14:30 No.2703950 Report

Quoted By: >>2703952

Hello

So I just started taking photos, as you can imagine I'm terrible, anyways I tried taking a picture of a neon sign

But like it's really bright, like you can't see the neon uhh tubes clearly like in real life

The image kind of glows, what did I do wrong? What should I have done? I took the image at night.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2015 19:20:45 No.2703952 Report

Quoted By: >>2703956

>>2703950
Change your camera's light metering mode to spot meter on the sign

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2015 19:30:56 No.2703956 Report

Quoted By: >>2703960

>>2703952

Thanks Anon, I didn't even know I had that setting

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2015 19:48:08 No.2703960 Report

Quoted By: >>2703974

>>2703956
Read your manual two times with the camera in your hands.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2015 20:21:01 No.2703974 Report

Quoted By: >>2703986

>>2703960

Well it's like how am I supposed to know what ISO/Shutter/Aperture I'm supposed to use everytime?

Shutter is a weird one, I'd imagine like 1/15 of a second is fast enough for everything right? What's the minimum for like if you're walking? 1/30?

ISO looks the same everysingle time I change the setting, is there such a time where I'll look at whatever I'm taking a picture and go hmmm, 300 ISO is perfect for this?

I have a point and shoot so I don't think aperture applies too much to me, it's something about focus but like at night it always goes down to 1.8 (I shoot in auto) to let in more light so it's not like you can tell the focus in night shots

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2015 21:22:43 No.2703981 Report

Quoted By: >>2703982 >>2703989 >>2703990

What does a "macro telephoto" lens mean?

I am looking for a lens to take photos of birds and want a telephoto lens. When I search on BH it has a lot of macro telephoto lens. Can I use a macro telephoto for birds that are far away?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2015 21:26:52 No.2703982 Report

Quoted By:

>>2703981

I should have added the lens I was looking at:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/396822-REG/Sigma_509109_70_300mm_f_4_5_6_DG_Macro.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/396833-REG/Sigma_508109_70_300mm_f_4_5_6_APO_DG.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2015 21:36:30 No.2703986 Report

Quoted By:

>>2703974
be prepared for more confusion. I'll try to make it clear.

There's a special forumla for making sure a shutter speed is "fast enough", which is a bad laymans term for pictures not being blurry when you take handheld photos.

you take the focal length of your lens, and that is the shutter speed minimum you can handhold the lens. So if you have a 50mm lens, you can generally have it that low without motion blur. The wider the lens, the lower you can push this number.

If it's particularly sunny outside, this is all sort of nullified though, because you'll have to use a high shutter speed, or, if you try to go walk around outside at 1/30s shutter speed, you will take pure white photos.

Which leads into ISO, which you want as low as possible to prevent ugly grain and noise.

If your lens opens to 1.8, you're going to want to have as low ISO possible but as high shutter speed, and lower or up the shutter speed depending on how underexposed it is. ISO is a last measure, as it affects the pictures a lot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2015 21:40:41 No.2703989 Report

Quoted By: >>2703991

>>2703981
Just marketing really. It might have an average minimum focusing distance and the makers think it's worthy of putting on the box. I guess what they mean is that if you tried to point this lens at something small like a flower or bug or coin, it's gonna fill up the entire frame. it's just pretty impractical and you have to be a few feet away most likely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2015 21:45:23 No.2703990 Report

Quoted By:

>>2703981
It's a telephoto lens who's near focusing distance allows you to get into the 1:4 or less reproduction ratio range.

That, or a telephoto-range macro, like a 200/4. Which is technically the same thing as above, but designed for dat 1:1 ratio stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2015 21:49:11 No.2703991 Report

Quoted By: >>2704000

>>2703989
Thank you very much. I'm new at this and I learn best by doing, not reading. The bigger the number, the farther it can see (or, make farther things closer)?

I didn't realize BH had a used department. I looked through it and found these:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/801204288-USE/pentax_21567_smcp_da_50_200mm_f_4_5_6_ed.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/801161494-USE/pentax_27427_zoom_telephoto_smcp_fa_70_200mm.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/801255448-USE/pentax_27607_zoom_telephoto_smcp_fa_80_320mm.html

I'm guessing the last one, 80-320 will be the best at bringing birds from across water and making them bigger.

Why is the F stop so close together with that one? "f/4.5-5.6" Will I not be able to do f8? This will be a good lens for getting crisp shots of flying birds and fast movie people like sports?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2015 22:39:14 No.2704000 Report

Quoted By:

>>2703991
$99 (used): http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/801255448-USE/pentax_27607_zoom_telephoto_smcp_fa_80_320mm.html
$164 (new): http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/423730-REG/Tamron_AF017P700_70_300mm_f_4_5_6_Di_LD.html
$169 (new): http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/396822-REG/Sigma_509109_70_300mm_f_4_5_6_DG_Macro.html

These are within my price range. A local photographer uses, I believe, extension tubes to increase the distance the lens can get. Will the above be able to do that as well? I'd like something that has autofocus as I wear glasses and am not confident of getting clear shots.

http://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/11143/what-extension-tube-options-are-there-for-the-pentax-system

Sorry for so many posts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 03:06:53 No.2704085 Report

Quoted By: >>2704089

I have heard selecting a color mode (vivid, natural etc.) if you are shooting RAW doesn't affect the RAW image at all. Is this true?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 03:13:32 No.2704089 Report

Quoted By: >>2704094

>>2704085

This is true. The RAW is completely unaffected.

What it does affect is the JPEG preview that the camera spits out for image review. It also saves the picture settings into metadata that your raw converter of choice may or may not be able to read. I have a Nikon camera. Lightroom can't read the picture control settings, but Nikon's own raw converter (capture nx-d) can.

It's best to not think of RAW files as images per se. It's raw data that the camera captured that can be turned into an image.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 03:30:15 No.2704094 Report

Quoted By: >>2704096

>>2704089
If you set your camera to shoot RAW only, no jpg, what is the camera displaying to you in the LCD screen for the preview? The previewed shots are effected by things like color temperature, picture style etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 03:38:48 No.2704096 Report

Quoted By:

>>2704094
You are looking at a jpeg preview that the camera produces, but doesn't save to the card. The JPEG is affected by the presets. The raw file is not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 03:53:30 No.2704099 Report

Quoted By: >>2704100

How do I get better at focusing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 03:56:03 No.2704100 Report

Quoted By:

>>2704099
You need to be more specific.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 06:31:27 No.2704145 Report

Quoted By:

Would a film rangefinder like pic related be suitable option for learning and taking an investment into photography? I'm interested in shooting film with manual controls, and the idea of using a rangefinder appeals to me. Would it be worth buying one, and spending money/investing on film, developing, scanning, editing, etc. if for whatever reason I'd be better off with a film SLR, or even a DSLR or digital (or any other type of camera) mirrorless which I might purchase anyways with the chance of going further into photography? I guess what I'm trying to get at is does choice of camera matter in this case (or any other)? Am I overthinking this? Should I just buy what I have in mind and go from there?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 07:01:38 No.2704152 Report

Quoted By: >>2704174

does an 18-250mm lens need a hood? why or why not. Thank you very,very much! (the hood catches a little bit when I put it in my bag. If it doesn't do much, I'll put it aside).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 08:47:14 No.2704174 Report

Quoted By:

>>2704152
Do you actually know what the hood does? If not, look that up. Once you know, you can make an informed decision for yourself. It's rather straightforward.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 13:16:15 No.2704236 Report

Quoted By: >>2710722

>>2689141
i wouldnt bother
after all its only a canon

Leo

Leo Sun 15 Nov 2015 13:33:53 No.2704241 Report

Quoted By: >>2704268

Hey guys, sorry for replying it in this thread, but I don't the right one.
Só, I want to get into photography.
An I ask. Where do I start?
And the good old anos will be like:" get a câmera and take photos"
The problemas is that I don't have any ideia how to take a interesting photo.
I just apreciate a good one and I'm crazy to enter in this world.
Is there a site for knowledge? Or should I keep going 4chan?
If there is a actuall thread for helping noobs, pls Let me know.
Thanks for the time, bye.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 15:18:35 No.2704268 Report

Quoted By:

>>2704241
/reddit/

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2015 14:24:53 No.2704730 Report

Quoted By:

What do you use to resize you pictures?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2015 15:47:47 No.2704774 Report

Quoted By:

>>2698813
greenland

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2015 15:50:10 No.2704775 Report

Quoted By:

>>2700917
no. it's soft all over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Nov 2015 15:53:01 No.2704777 Report

Quoted By: >>2706414

>>2680703
best RAW file viewer? not a fan of honeyview and windows photo viewer doesn't allow me to turn the images

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2015 18:06:07 No.2705445 Report

Quoted By:

>>2688583
I personally have Industar 50-2.
Actually shot a nice soviet looking video with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2015 18:32:05 No.2705450 Report

Quoted By:

Any idea why the battery grip for my D7000 this morning decided not to let me use the shutter or thumb stick? Camera still sees the grip and sees its battery life, but thumb stick does nothing and shutter does nothing regardless of the little lock switch

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2015 18:52:09 No.2705455 Report

Quoted By:

>>2700630
>I don't think the physical distance between the camera sensor/film is constant relative to the aperature blades of all lenses.

It even moves as you focus on some cameras (think anything with bellows focusing).

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2015 19:50:08 No.2705476 Report

Quoted By:

Alright /p/, lend me your photoshop knowledge.

Been tasked with keying out a green screen background for someone's product photography.

How can I change it to white without getting that awful, pixelated edge that comes from cutting it out and dropping it onto a separate white background?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2015 22:06:35 No.2705532 Report

Quoted By: >>2705537 >>2705674

Hey you /p/hucks. I just want a general use camera. I want good quality but I'm not trying to be professional. I'll jostle be taking pictures of my plants. Budget is $400. Any recommendations?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2015 22:13:52 No.2705537 Report

Quoted By: >>2705674

>>2705532

http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-COOLPIX-Digital-Camera-NIKKOR/dp/B00IA9LMNW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1447798348&sr=8-1&keywords=p340

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-PowerShot-Digital-Optical-Full-HD/dp/B00EFILNV8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1447798367&sr=8-3&keywords=canon+s120

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-DSC-RX100-Sensor-Digital-Camera/dp/B00889ST2G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1447798304&sr=8-1&keywords=rx100

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 06:09:19 No.2705668 Report

Quoted By:

so,
why jav use ultrawide angle lens and shoot really close?
it's like they want to make their actress uglier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 06:19:22 No.2705674 Report

Quoted By:

>>2705537
first 2 is junk.

>>2705532
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00BOZ1XA6/ref=sr_1_2_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1447827040&sr=8-2&keywords=coolpix+a&condition=used

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00889ST2G/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1447827098&sr=8-1&keywords=rx100&condition=used

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00I8BICB2/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DM8R866/
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KA1H9M6/
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0160V0XD6/
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HPQ09H6/

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Nov 2015 03:15:12 No.2706076 Report

Quoted By:

Stupid question: what should I do with film between the time that it's shot and the time it's developed? I usually get 3 or 4 rolls done at the same time, and usually I just leave the film sitting on my desk. However, it's getting really really damn hot in Australia at the moment and I can't imagine the heat is doing the film a world of good. Should I put the exposed film in the fridge with my unexposed film?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Nov 2015 17:40:54 No.2706386 Report

Quoted By: >>2706437

I've been approached by a company asking to license an old (and in my opinion not very great) photo. They want to know the cost to use. This is a first for me. I've never thought my photos very good. What would be a fair price?

>Licensing is requested for North American print, plus electronic use for a term of ten (10) years*, including digital delivery of the final product (which may include, but is not restricted to, tablets, mobile, in-context social media, and other content delivery platforms). All platforms and uses MUST be described as cited above and acknowledged in the invoice licensing terms. Unit runs will encompass all platforms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Nov 2015 18:43:19 No.2706414 Report

Quoted By:

>>2704777
FastStone Image Viewer

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Nov 2015 19:24:09 No.2706437 Report

Quoted By:

>>2706386
about tree fiddy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Nov 2015 23:31:06 No.2706536 Report

Quoted By:

Shooting some slide film this weekend as the weather looks decent for once. Any tips? I've got a roll of Velvia 50 and I'm using a Nikon F2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Nov 2015 03:10:29 No.2706621 Report

Quoted By: >>2706623

Really silly question: I want to take photography class, and one of the requirments is a 35mm camera with manual shutter speed and "F" stop is needed. I was wandering if it was that the 18-55mm lenses could do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Nov 2015 03:14:51 No.2706623 Report

Quoted By: >>2706624

>>2706621

No, because you won't be able to manually adjust the "f-stop" (also known as aperture) on a 18-55 kit lens like that. It'll also be like looking through a peephole, since the image circle can't cover the full 35mm frame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Nov 2015 03:17:44 No.2706624 Report

Quoted By: >>2706626

>>2706623
oh I see. I was looking for that, and I saw that it is really expensive (400+ dollars). Is there any other camera with that specification that isn
t interchangeable lenses?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Nov 2015 03:19:28 No.2706626 Report

Quoted By: >>2706627 >>2706628

>>2706624

You're looking in the wrong places, broski. Pretty much any old 35mm manual focus camera will do what you need. You can pick up a camera and lens for like fifty bucks off craigslist or ebay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Nov 2015 03:22:09 No.2706627 Report

Quoted By:

>>2706626
Oh, really? Thank you very much, I'll look for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Nov 2015 03:26:27 No.2706628 Report

Quoted By: >>2706629

>>2706626
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-Rebel-T2-35mm-SLR-Camera-with-the-EF-28-90mm-f-4-5-6-III-Zoom-Lens-/151881198255?hash=item235cd32aaf:g:pS8AAOSw7hRWQpeW#viTabs_0
like this one?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Nov 2015 03:28:03 No.2706629 Report

Quoted By: >>2706631

>>2706628

I was thinking more like this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Minolta-X-370-Manual-Film-Camera-with-Original-MD-50-1-7-Lens-/320698726055?hash=item4aab2236a7:m:mkyO2moHGuH726Kc4lZRxuw

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Nov 2015 03:31:33 No.2706631 Report

Quoted By: >>2706632

>>2706629
when they say manual focus camera is film camera, no digital? Sorry, I really don't know about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Nov 2015 03:32:27 No.2706632 Report

Quoted By: >>2706635

>>2706631

yeah, it's film.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Nov 2015 03:36:56 No.2706635 Report

Quoted By: >>2706641

>>2706632
Ohhhh That changes a lot of things.... Ok! thank you very much! about the link you said, I have to get other lenses? because it says 50/1.7 Lens or is it equivalent to 35mm lens?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Nov 2015 03:43:53 No.2706641 Report

Quoted By: >>2706643

>>2706635

When they say "35mm camera", they mean a camera that shoots 35mm film. The lens is irrelevant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Nov 2015 03:46:36 No.2706642 Report

Quoted By:

What light meter should I get?
L-308s or L-478D?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Nov 2015 03:47:13 No.2706643 Report

Quoted By: >>2706646

>>2706641
Ohhhhhhh ok! thank you very much!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Nov 2015 03:53:11 No.2706644 Report

Quoted By:

>>2698071
>>2698136
Ayyyy, I learned to look at an angle and rely on the hyperfocal scale on my lens. Worked out pretty gud.
Than god for B/W processing. Allowing me to process all my embarassing images at home without paying £3 per roll to have a muslim stare at them and judge me when I go to pick them up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Nov 2015 03:54:51 No.2706646 Report

Quoted By:

>>2706643

No problem, buddy. Thanks for keeping the board clean and asking the appropriate questions in the right thread. I'll be happy to help with anything else.

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Anonymous Thu 26 Nov 2015 03:21:28 No.2710318 Report

Quoted By: >>2710359

I got a new lens and to take the hood cap off, it rotates, making a grinding sound. It also doesn't go in all the way. Is it okay to manually adjust it? I don't want to harm my new lens but I don't know of any other way of taking the lens hood on/off.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Nov 2015 03:23:12 No.2710319 Report

Quoted By: >>2710323

I also got a lens band. It's "49mm to 67mm". My lens takes a 62mm filter. It's seems awfully tight and it's very difficult to put on. Is it suppose to be like that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Nov 2015 03:37:11 No.2710323 Report

Quoted By: >>2710330

>>2710319
You bought an ad, bro. That's all there is to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Nov 2015 03:57:13 No.2710330 Report

Quoted By: >>2710350

>>2710323
I don't care about that. I hike a lot and my lens does creep down. If it really bothered me, I could just turn it so the writing is on the inside. Did I get the right size? Is it suppose to be that tight and being that tight, will it damage the lens how it is on the photo? (I don't think it would.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Nov 2015 04:31:37 No.2710350 Report

Quoted By: >>2710354 >>2710355

>>2710330
I don't think it'll damage it... but how is that even going to stop creep?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Nov 2015 04:54:43 No.2710354 Report

Quoted By: >>2710355

>>2710350

Dude has it installed like a dummy. You're supposed to overlap the rotating section of the zoom ring with a stationary part of the lens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Nov 2015 04:57:43 No.2710355 Report

Quoted By: >>2710358

>>2710350
>>2710354
Well duh. I put it on like that for the photo. When I'm out hiking, I'll move part of it over the zoom ring. In the meantime, if I want to use that lens, I want it useable right away, and not have to worry about not being able to zoom. (So if I grab my camera to take a quick photo, I want it operational right away.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Nov 2015 05:06:29 No.2710358 Report

Quoted By: >>2710359

>>2710355

k.

if you're mounting your lens hood, i would make sure you're gripping the focusing part of your lens barrel (the part that moves in and out) so that you aren't torquing it with the lens hood. The grinding you're hearing is probably the autofocus gearing being torqued.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Nov 2015 05:17:56 No.2710359 Report

Quoted By:

>>2710358
I store my lens hoods on the camera, but backwards. So when I go to take it off, I can't hold anything. I guess I can press the camera against me, and hold the front down and twist the hood off like that. I was just wondering if there was a better way.

When I turn the camera off, it will leave a gap as shown >>2710318. Is it okay to twist that so it's flush? What do?

Sorry if I am stupid/paranoid. I don't want to accidentally harm my gear.

What do you guys use to stop creep?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Nov 2015 10:25:09 No.2710474 Report

Quoted By:

I want to develop my knowledge with a camera. Are there any guides or "lessons" I could follow to help me practice and learn the theory behind photography?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Nov 2015 13:01:53 No.2710522 Report

Quoted By: >>2711094

Is there a measurement for how far you'd need to stand back to get the same field of view as a full-frame camera using a camera with a smaller sensor?

(The measurement would have to be different for each sensor. Something like, "if it's a 1.5x crop factor, then stand 3 times farther back or something?)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Nov 2015 19:39:31 No.2710720 Report

Quoted By: >>2710742

>>2694865
RAW files are like a negative for a digital camera. Open them in Photoshop in post and you can get so much more detail than shooting, say a JPEG, which, by definition, compresses your photo and as a result losing some detail. The only downside is that since the files aren't compressed at all (as previously mentioned), your SD card will fill up fast. RAW image files can be big, around 30 MB.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Nov 2015 19:40:32 No.2710721 Report

Quoted By:

>>2695066
Art of Photography is a good one

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Nov 2015 19:41:32 No.2710722 Report

Quoted By:

>>2704236
kek

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 26 Nov 2015 19:51:48 No.2710724 Report

Quoted By:

Can't find the option to fully clear an SD card on the a7r ii. Is there a way?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Nov 2015 20:09:23 No.2710733 Report

Quoted By:

What would be a good camera choice for someone who wants to take still shots of indoor grown plants? My mom grows African violets and she wants to take good quality photos of them. I was thinking a Galaxy Camera 2 or maybe a Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-WX350 with a telephoto lens. Thoughts senpai?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Nov 2015 20:30:14 No.2710742 Report

Quoted By:

>>2710720
>>2694865
RAW can be compressed. For example, the RAW on the Nikon D3200 is 12-bit compressed.

Nevertheless, yes, a lot more data and a lot more colors are captured using RAW. You should shoot RAW because it enables you to edit more without destroying things like smooth gradients because it saves many times more colors than the human eye can view. And because it gives you special editing options that are not truly available with JPEG. And because things like white balance and noise reduction/sharpness are independent from the actual data, unlike a JPEG.

When not to shoot RAW? When you're in a hurry and don't feel like editing on the PC. But if you edit on a PC at all, shoot RAW.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Nov 2015 20:57:02 No.2710748 Report

Quoted By: >>2710846

Should I go pick up this camera?

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-camera-camcorder-lens/bedford/nikon-em-vintage-camera/1121419533

I've never shot on film before and I'm looking to play around.

It's gotta be worth 20 canadian right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Nov 2015 23:49:31 No.2710815 Report

Quoted By: >>2711081 >>2711113

has anyone studies photography in art school, or obtained a degree in fine arts related to photography? is it a viable career option? im thinking about when double majored with graphic design, at least for me?

mostly asking eurofags, but i guess millionaire americans who afforded their colleges can join in too

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Nov 2015 01:08:08 No.2710846 Report

Quoted By:

>>2710748
Get it and get a 50mm 1.8

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Nov 2015 16:27:25 No.2711081 Report

Quoted By: >>2711113

>>2710815
The study of fine arts can be used in the design/advertising sector. I know a graphic designer who made it to a big London studio due to that. But you'll miss out on the photography related stuff.

I'd prefer a photography education and then billions of hours of studying aesthetics and visual communication and visual rhetoric on your own.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Nov 2015 17:13:40 No.2711094 Report

Quoted By: >>2711146

>>2710522
I would REALLY appreciate if someone would answer this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Nov 2015 18:02:21 No.2711113 Report

Quoted By:

>>2710815
I studied Fine Art at university, did mostly painting (colour theory based stuff) and optical things (taking old devices to bits to make thingys).

The main advantage of taking the Fine Art route is that you can spend 3 years basically fucking around with whatever you want. You just call it Art.

There are some things you have to do like Art History, life drawing etc. You can't really fail any of these things (you just put your own slant on the subject) and if you do just call it not Art.

>>2711081
>I'd prefer a photography education and then billions of hours of studying aesthetics and visual communication and visual rhetoric on your own.

If you say photography is your medium you can just do that all day and use all the photography departments stuff. Photography education sounds quite dull. It's not hard to learn how to use a camera.

As for a career option, any degree will open doors. You might as well spend your time doing something you enjoy. If you want a career with prospects you'd be better off studying Economics or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Nov 2015 18:42:04 No.2711146 Report

Quoted By: >>2711152 >>2711297

>>2711094
it doesn't work that way. When you move back, you don't get a wider field of view, you get the same narrower field of view, just further back. So you have to set a specific point in the frame you'd like to match, like, the same amount of coverage on a specific flat wall, regardless of the differences in foreground, background, or three dimensional subject matter, etc.

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Anonymous Fri 27 Nov 2015 18:58:36 No.2711152 Report

Quoted By:

>>2711146
>When you move back, you don't get a wider field of view, you get the same narrower field of view, just further back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Nov 2015 20:45:05 No.2711195 Report

Quoted By: >>2711199

If i pushed a iso 400 film up to 800 for 1 exposure / Image... can i then switch back and keep shooting with 400 again or does it have to be one exact iso due the developing ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Nov 2015 20:55:08 No.2711199 Report

Quoted By: >>2711203

>>2711195

You have to shoot the whole roll at one speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Nov 2015 21:08:50 No.2711203 Report

Quoted By:

>>2711199
i see, i switched few times on the last fp4 100 lol
i got some ilford pan 400 now... i think 400 is okey for streetphotography ! thx btw

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2015 01:04:51 No.2711297 Report

Quoted By: >>2711302

>>2711146
Okay. I don't really get that, but regardless there has to be some way to find the distance between those two points to match a full frame.camera and a crop sensor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2015 01:10:42 No.2711302 Report

Quoted By: >>2711740

>>2711297
I think you are overthinking this...

If you want to...

sensor size / focal length x 57.3 = FOV

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2015 19:28:58 No.2711705 Report

Quoted By: >>2711765

Whats your guys favorite youtube channels for photography?
More specifically looking for channels that can teach me the basics of film.
Thanks!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2015 20:16:09 No.2711740 Report

Quoted By: >>2711794 >>2712224

>>2711302
I don't mean focal length. I mean how many LITERAL STEPS BACK would I need to frame the same thing with a crop sensor camera as with a full-frame camera.

(I'd have to take steps back because CROP. Also I know the perspective would change unless you have a 100% mathematically straight line in a 3-dimensional space, but still interested.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2015 21:10:02 No.2711765 Report

Quoted By: >>2711768

>>2711705
>teach me the basics of film.
I have no idea about youtube, but maybe we can help?

Do you already own a film camera? If not, what do you plan on getting?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2015 21:12:40 No.2711768 Report

Quoted By: >>2711808 >>2711809

>>2711765
oy, is 20 degree Celsius good to store my films ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2015 21:59:13 No.2711794 Report

Quoted By:

>>2711740
For a 1.5 crop, you would need 1.5x the distance. This is incredibly reductive, and won't hold up to implementation because there is no way to achieve what you are asking about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2015 22:27:34 No.2711808 Report

Quoted By: >>2711814

>>2711768
It'll be fine. But most people leave it in the fridge for additional protection.

I think most films say on the box to put it around 15 or less celcius. Don't freeze the film, that will make it brittle.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2015 22:27:38 No.2711809 Report

Quoted By: >>2711814

>>2711768 #
You can find the best temperature for storage on the package of the film, 20 degree Celsius is fine for all the films I've seen so far

On the picture you can see an example of the films I had near me, ilford fp4 plus 125 for 36 and 120 as well as the fomapan 400 36, both fine for 20 degree c

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2015 22:46:15 No.2711814 Report

Quoted By:

>>2711809
>>2711808
aight thank you guys ! just checked, it says 20 or lower so it's fine then :)

desu... iam concerned a bit about film photography but i learned from doing so far.
i got myself the contax g2 as my main fullframe filmcamera and shot some superia once
the pictures didn't get that sharp in daylight using mostly f2 - 4. i got some ilford 400 to go on. does anyone have some tips for the contax g2, 45mm f2 mounted .

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2015 17:02:07 No.2712224 Report

Quoted By: >>2712241

>>2711740
>I don't mean focal length
FOV = Field of View. 57.3 = 1 Radian.

sensor size / focal length x 57.3 = FOV

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2015 17:50:27 No.2712241 Report

Quoted By: >>2712291

>>2712224
>implying focal length and fov are tied together in any strict sense at all when focal lengths are estimates and rounding
all that math ability and no idea how to use it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2015 18:57:29 No.2712291 Report

Quoted By:

>>2712241
>focal lengths are estimates and rounding
Not in Astronomical optics.

How many decimal places do you round Π to?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2015 21:00:54 No.2712343 Report

Quoted By: >>2712522

So B&H are selling a bundle of Rokinon T1.5 Art Lenses including: a 24mm, 35mm, 85mm. priced at $1,000. I'm in need of a couple good lenses for video on my Canon 5d.

So my question is, do you think I can buy better lenses than this deal for about the same amount of money?

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 00:07:11 No.2712443 Report

Quoted By: >>2712445

How do I take night photo's with people without them blurring out due to long exposure?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 00:10:31 No.2712445 Report

Quoted By: >>2712484

>>2712443
Use a wider aperture and a higher ISO to allow a shorter exposure. Obviously.

Find scenes with more light. Obviously.

What were you hoping for here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 01:26:20 No.2712484 Report

Quoted By:

>>2712445
Sorry man, I'm new to photography and thought this was the stupid question thread

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 02:44:46 No.2712517 Report

Quoted By: >>2712529 >>2712537

A friend asked me if I'd be willing to photograph the items he sells on eBay. He currently uses an point & shoot. I have a Pentax K-3 with the kit 18-135 lens as well as a 70-300. Anything I should know? He has a tonne of stuff and he doesn't use a tripod because it'd be too slow. I figure if I have plenty of light (it'll all be indoors) and a fast shutter speed, the photos should be crisp enough? Aperture at 8?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 02:52:43 No.2712522 Report

Quoted By:

>>2712343

No rokinon/samyang shit is pretty awesome for the price

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 03:06:47 No.2712529 Report

Quoted By: >>2712543

>>2712517
> this much detail and concern for fucking ebay auction photos

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 03:25:29 No.2712537 Report

Quoted By: >>2712543

>>2712517
>I figure if I have plenty of light (it'll all be indoors) and a fast shutter speed, the photos should be crisp enough?
The quality of light is everything in product photography.

Sensor size, kit lens vs prime, etc, all is secondary.

Soft, diffuse light. Lots of it. Use a softbox or a white cloth next to a window.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 03:38:19 No.2712543 Report

Quoted By:

>>2712529
He wants to pay me, so yes, I want to be as good as possible.

>>2712537
A lot of items will be too big for a soft box. He does have one for smaller items. I'll white balance before hand since he only does cropping (though I want to avoid that by taking the photo right the first time.) Thanks for the input though. He's moving soon so I think his new place will have bigger windows and better lighting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2015 06:25:48 No.2712636 Report

Quoted By:

Wanting a bit of advice, I have a d3300 that's just got the 18-55mm kit lens for now, my main interest is shooting cars and other automotive stuff, the 18-55mm is pretty good for some basic photos and shooting some car shows, should I look into something with a fair bit more zoom though? Like 200mm or longer so I can shoot a bit of Motorsport or just mess with focal length taking photos of cars? I notice a lot of people who take good photographs of cars do so with long lenses for quite a way back instead of sitting close with a wide.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 22:26:39 No.2713506 Report

Quoted By: >>2713632

When changing position a lot like at a wedding, do you guys prefer automatic and just use post production for a little correction or do you use presets/manual

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 02:29:10 No.2713632 Report

Quoted By: >>2713645

>>2713506
what would changing position have to do with using auto (???) versus manual, and what would editing have to do with it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 03:13:53 No.2713645 Report

Quoted By:

>>2713632

not that guy, but white balance indoors can vary in an annoying way. i'm not a pro, so i just auto white balance and adjust raw in post.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Dec 2015 04:51:17 No.2714229 Report

Quoted By:

I am going snowmobiling in the mountains and want to take my camera. Is the lens going to fog up at elevation or anything? What else should i watch out for in cold weather?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2015 05:29:04 No.2714823 Report

Quoted By: >>2714824

i want to go out shooting late at night, but the only film i have is some fujicolor 200iso (daylight speed ) from walgreens.

how is this shit gonna look at night? will i even be able to take pictures?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2015 05:32:36 No.2714824 Report

Quoted By: >>2714835

>>2714823

Do you have a tripod and a cable release? If you have that, you're fucking set. Film behaves beautifully at night.

Err on the side of overexposure (talking about minutes of exposure, not seconds) and you'll be golden.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2015 06:07:51 No.2714835 Report

Quoted By: >>2714841

>>2714824
>Do you have a tripod and a cable release?
no

is that a requirement? there's a general rule on how slow the shutter speed can be before hand shake is apparent but i cant remember it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2015 06:22:41 No.2714841 Report

Quoted By:

>>2714835

The general rule is 1/focal length (so if you're using a 50mm lens, you can shoot 1/50).

I guarantee you don't have a lens wide enough and fast enough to shoot handheld at night.

You don't need a tripod and a cable release, but you are going to need to support your camera on something. A bag of rice (no, really) makes a wonderful camera brace if you're on a budget. Put it on a brick wall, or a car, or whatever the fuck and use it as an impromptu tripod. The rice holds its shape enough for you to correct yaw, roll and pitch, and it protects your camera body from shitty ass cinder block. People make cameras out of shoe boxes and coke cans. Don't let a lack of gear hold you back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2015 06:55:37 No.2714848 Report

Quoted By: >>2715113 >>2716800

Shouldn't I be able to see the aperture open and close when I adjust it while looking through the lens? This is an old macro zoom lens I have for a film camera...I can't test the lens without shooting an entire roll of film.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2015 22:10:35 No.2715111 Report

Quoted By: >>2715113 >>2715122

anyone not shoot in raw+jpeg? the only argument i see for not doing that is too save space. but not sure that applies to me if I'm rocking two 128geebees sd cards. My biggest reason for shooting in raw+jpeg is so when people want to see all my photos, the jpegs can be uploaded to my webserver so they can see them - i don't have to convert them into jpeg and then upload.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2015 22:14:24 No.2715113 Report

Quoted By: >>2716085

>>2715111
I don't do it because My jpegs are never processed SOOC the way I will do my final raws, so it's a waste of time and space.

>>2714848
If you are closing the aperture on the lens, and it's not staying open for focus, then yes, you will be able to see the affects in the viewfinder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2015 22:28:19 No.2715122 Report

Quoted By:

>>2715111

Nikon, I shoot purely RAW. There's basically no reason to add a jpeg, since it takes very little time to export a jpeg.

Fujifilm, I shoot raw + jpeg because it's near impossible to get dat fuji color processing, so it's nice to have both for a little leeway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2015 02:52:25 No.2715925 Report

Quoted By: >>2715943

Whats everyones photo storage workflow? Is it bad to store my raw files on my computer? Its really slow and I'm 99% sure thats why.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2015 03:27:28 No.2715943 Report

Quoted By:

>>2715925
Once I've DL'd to my comp and processed the keepers I keep the final Jpegs in a folder on my comp and backup to Dropbox. I burn a dvd with all the raw files from the shoot, and if i need to I'll also put the psd files on the DVDs as well. But I only save psd's for really heavily edited stuff, if I have to go back to rework a file I like to start fresh.

If you are like me and shoot a ton then raw storage on your comp can get out of hand. I know quite a few people why back up to a cloud service, external HD and DVD.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2015 07:32:21 No.2716085 Report

Quoted By: >>2716800

>>2715113
>If you are closing the aperture on the lens, and it's not staying open for focus, then yes, you will be able to see the affects in the viewfinder.

That's not what I mean...My 50mm prime lens, if I take it off the body and look through it and adjust it, I can see the hole get bigger and smaller. On this macro zoom lens I have for a different camera, I can't see it when I do the same thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2015 05:24:36 No.2716794 Report

Quoted By:

Is there a way to adjust the whitebalance/temperature on a digital to give it that expired film look?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2015 05:46:06 No.2716800 Report

Quoted By:

>>2716085
>>2714848
Not necessarily, depends on the lens.

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Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2015 08:29:10 No.2717474 Report

Quoted By: >>2717489

I may (or may not, still waiting on a response) be going to a big airsoft game in February as a photographer and I need to protect my lenses. I already have UV filters on all my lenses, but I don't think a thin piece of glass would really protect my lenses.
Are there companies out there that make plastic or lexan screw on protectors that don't have a severe impact on image quality?

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Anonymous !!uPiHYFPeJke Tue 08 Dec 2015 09:14:26 No.2717489 Report

Quoted By:

>>2717474
You can get cheap plastic 'protectors' on ebay. However, they are not good and will worsen the quality of your images a lot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2015 02:17:01 No.2717981 Report

Quoted By:

I keep losing various options for export in Lightroom. I used to be able to choose folders anywhere on my computer. I'm stuck with either the desktop, my user folders on the C drive or the same folder as original in the Export context list. I'm using LR3 and I know I should upgrade but I'm fine with it for now.

Anyone know how to fix it so I can choose any folder across multiple drives again?

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2015 01:06:29 No.2719867 Report

Quoted By: >>2719870

How do I process like pic related?

I get the impression that theres some pastel pinks in the highlights and pastel cyans in the shadows.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2015 01:15:10 No.2719870 Report

Quoted By:

>>2719867
Also related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jTo6hTZmiQ

How can I create these pastel colours using curves, split toning and HSL?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2015 05:11:14 No.2720640 Report

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Is there any drawback to using continuous autofocus when shooting a stationary subject as opposed to using single shot autofocus?

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2015 13:18:24 No.2720795 Report

Quoted By:

Just a question about the process of importing images.
Do you use the default program to import ("photos" for mac) and manage photos or do you use Bridge or something else?

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