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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 07:14:17 No.2692743 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>2692751 >>2692754 >>2692761 >>2692812 >>2692818 >>2692819 >>2692914

Is this going to completely fuck the game up? Are we now going to see quantum sensors inside our cameras?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpfIHdn1Df0

Picture unrelated...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 07:33:33 No.2692750 Report

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those examples looked awful.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 07:35:12 No.2692751 Report

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>>2692743
>Less light absorbed by silicon as pixels get smaller = lower quality image.
Nope. By that logic, we would all have started with D810's and progressed to Kodak EasyShare's.

Sounds like this is solving a problem invented by a marketing consultancy.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 07:45:49 No.2692754 Report

Quoted By: >>2692761

>>2692743
Fuck the camera this is all I saw.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 07:46:18 No.2692756 Report

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This is the best picture they had of the guy for the video, would you trust this guy?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 07:59:57 No.2692761 Report

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>>2692743
>>2692751
>>2692754
>>2692756
Cannot be trusted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:11:55 No.2692762 Report

Quoted By: >>2692766 >>2692788 >>2692815

Here is a video shot all on the quantum sensor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbShbMRudUM

And the behind the scenes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyqfjlWNo-A

I realize that this isn't photography, but the technology used is similar and can be applied to photography.

Will this goo atop a regular sensor be the new standard? Or is this all just complete bullshit...

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:22:58 No.2692766 Report

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>>2692762
Yeah if I was them I wouldn't be branding a film was shot with their sensor yet. The footage looks bad. I don't know what the fuck it is, but I'm pretty sure I can count every pixel in that footage (look at solid large colors like the sky at 2:55). Not to mention the artifacting. Gotta love 8 bit 4:2:0 footage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:08:50 No.2692783 Report

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This might be a low mp sensor, if this works like on sensor HDR, they need much higher mp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:37:51 No.2692788 Report

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>>2692762
This looks like an average movie from the 80s

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:58:26 No.2692812 Report

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>>2692743
the iphone6 video shutter is totally rigged.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:00:48 No.2692815 Report

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>>2692762
>looks like some 80s shit
i thought this was supposed to be a tech demo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:04:31 No.2692818 Report

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>>2692743
>what is foveon sensor
Seriously, that's all it really is.

Quantum is just dicking around with another method of doing away with bayer filters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:04:31 No.2692819 Report

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>>2692743
I thought vaporware was supposed to actually look cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:00:23 No.2692914 Report

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>>2692743
>ratings and comments disabled
hmmm...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 13:39:29 No.2693565 Report

Quoted By: >>2693586

Of course quantum sensors are the future. It's an in any way superior technology.

I predict that oversampling will become a thing with image capturing. Means, there will be e.g. quantum full frame sensors with like a gazillion of mega-pixles but "only" spitting out somewhat like 8k. Due to the downsampling, the sharpness, dynamics and colours will be incredible!!

Same happend to audio when the A/Ds got fast enough to sample 192khz. Since there is no real need to process (or even play) 192khz they (mostly) just spit out e.g. 96khz, which is way enough for anything. Due to the oversampling there are no aliasing errors and artifacts in the high frequencies, which sounds amazing.

With imaging the benefits of oversampling will be even more visible. This gonna be a whole new level of imaging, more sensitive, faster, paralell, global shutter sensors with more pixels per space + oversampling.

... also light field sensors will become more interesting with this technology.

.. I hope you're not making the very repeating old fault again, and denying a new and better technology just because you got used to your old shit...

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 14:27:48 No.2693586 Report

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>>2693565
>Due to the downsampling

Downsampling is generally shit for video.

Left is 1:1
Right is downsampled

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 18:04:51 No.2693682 Report

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>>2693586
*facepalm*

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 18:14:26 No.2693691 Report

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>>2693586

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 19:03:51 No.2693719 Report

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>>2693586
I find it really confusing how you can be so stupid. Did you never downsample a (maybe slightly blurred) shot and notice, that its sharpness got enhanced? Noise got reduced? Colours got more defined?

But instead referring to this experience, you relay a comparsion shot of some crop factors of a random camera brand, with no details about what got compared at all, and where the connection to your predication even is.

... what' wrong with you?

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 19:17:20 No.2693727 Report

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>>2693586
>Downsampling is generally shit for video

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 19:47:30 No.2693759 Report

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>>2693586
wat

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:50:56 No.2693827 Report

Quoted By: >>2693829 >>2693871

>>2693719
Down-sampling is POST is different from down-sampling ON SENSOR.

We were talking about SENSOR tech.
When talking SENSORS you don't want more pixels than you're going to capture the video at.

To explain the picture:
That's a Nikon D4 attempting to shoot 1080p video.
On the right is the (almost) full frame sensor readout scaled down (on sensor!) to 1920x1080.
On the left is the same sensor but cropped (on sensor) to 1920x1080.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:59:01 No.2693829 Report

Quoted By: >>2693871

>>2693827
Also feel free to compare the video between Sony A7/A7r/A7s

(hint: A7s is clearly superior at video because no scaling or line skipping)

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 22:54:32 No.2693871 Report

Quoted By: >>2693885

>>2693827
>>2693829
>downsampling in post is different from downsampling on sensor
you have no idea what you are talking about, do you?

but, dude, to make it easy for your simple mind: I'm talking about "the good kind of downsampling". you see? new and good technology, not bad. I think people in future will make rather good stuff than bad. get it? G O O D . .. not bad. Like good food, mhmm tasty. not bah.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 23:10:08 No.2693885 Report

Quoted By: >>2693924

>>2693871
>a gazillion of mega-pixles but "only" spitting out somewhat like 8k.

>good

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 23:46:15 No.2693924 Report

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>>2693885
go home, old man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 10:41:24 No.2694676 Report

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>>2692766
>Gotta love 8 bit 4:2:0 footage.

That has nothing to do with the strange texture artifacts.

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