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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2015 02:48:45 No.2718708 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>2718758 >>2718804 >>2719068 >>2719245 >>2719517

Alex Burke you are our only hope.

Nah but really, I feel like this is perfect for him

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/3449245957/us-national-park-service-looking-for-the-next-ansel-adams

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2015 04:18:12 No.2718758 Report

Quoted By: >>2718774 >>2718992

>>2718708
never understood why people think black and white photography of the outdoors makes it more epic or important or whatever.

i mean... they invented color film for a reason. its like taking a photo of all this naturally beautiful colors and then being like "naa fuck that"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2015 04:54:05 No.2718774 Report

Quoted By: >>2718775 >>2718973 >>2719022 >>2719072

>>2718758
I'm sorry you're a fucking retard and don't understand the concept of archive images.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2015 04:57:15 No.2718775 Report

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>>2718774
Or even "tones"

omi

omi Thu 10 Dec 2015 06:44:24 No.2718804 Report

Quoted By: >>2718805

>>2718708
Alex and biff
get in here

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2015 06:53:14 No.2718805 Report

Quoted By: >>2718807

>>2718804

It was already posted in Alex's thread like three times, which is weird and sad in its own way.

The job is going to go to someone's fuckup son or nephew, because that's how government works anyway.

omi

omi Thu 10 Dec 2015 06:58:50 No.2718807 Report

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>>2718805
b-but what about biff, thats who I'm going for
hes (imo) the best photographer here.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2015 14:54:34 No.2718973 Report

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>>2718774
>mfw ansel adams had access to color film
>mfw you are retarded

NatureGuy !!tg3hbUo06u8

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NatureGuy !!tg3hbUo06u8 Thu 10 Dec 2015 16:02:12 No.2718992 Report

Quoted By: >>2719015 >>2719018 >>2719022

>>2718758
What everyone is getting at is that black and white film is hilariously stable. I forget exactly how long it's supposed last but it is in the 75yrs+ range while some slide film starts to shift pretty rapidly. Again I forget how quickly the shifts are noticeable but fast enough to make black and white way better for archiving projects

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2015 16:28:01 No.2719006 Report

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What a dick slurping faggot you must be, OP. Your entire exposure to the world of photography revolves around this mongol board. How pathetic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2015 16:44:28 No.2719015 Report

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>>2718992
Yet selenium toning doubles the longevity of the negatives. And a pd/pt print has no 'expiry date'.

There were color additive processes that were stable af too, such Kodachrome, dye transfer, and the most stable one, carbon color print. But such methods are either extinct (Kodachrome) or very very laborious and restrict nowadays (the other two).

cruz

cruz Thu 10 Dec 2015 16:46:00 No.2719018 Report

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>>2718992 #
Yet selenium toning doubles the longevity of the negatives. And a pd/pt print has no 'expiry date'.

There were color additive processes that were stable af too, such Kodachrome, dye transfer, and the most stable one, carbon color print. But such methods are either extinct (Kodachrome) or very very laborious and restrict nowadays (the other two).

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2015 16:52:48 No.2719022 Report

Quoted By: >>2719027 >>2719054

>>2718774
>>2718992
Oh but digital images never degrade.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2015 17:02:48 No.2719027 Report

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>>2719022

digital images are born degenerate, m8.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2015 17:20:38 No.2719043 Report

Quoted By: >>2719050

>mfw you are all arguing over what film makes a photograph last longer
>mfw drawings last forever

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2015 17:37:39 No.2719050 Report

Quoted By: >>2719543

>>2719043

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2015 17:41:42 No.2719054 Report

Quoted By: >>2719058 >>2719076 >>2719081

>>2719022
The media that the digital file is stored on starts to degrade much faster than black and white film. In addition, formats change.

We may not have machines that even read jpegs or tiffs or whatever in 100 or 200 years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2015 17:46:22 No.2719058 Report

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>>2719054
>we may not even read machines that

You can be fairly certain that if we don't have direct backwards compatibility, the new OS's will start automatically converting jpegs to whatever the new format is. You cannot honestly believe that the technology industry is going to simply render jpegs obsolete and provide no way to recover them, not in an age where modern journalism companies are now demanding incredibly important historical photographs to be submitted in jpeg only.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2015 18:02:48 No.2719068 Report

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>>2718708
Thats hard. Ansel Adams has died quite some time ago.
They probably have to find someone else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2015 18:07:32 No.2719072 Report

Quoted By: >>2719143

>>2718774
not previous poster, but
you don't understand the concept of the archive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2015 18:13:56 No.2719076 Report

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>>2719054
You win the ridiculous statement of the thread award! Congrutalions! Competition was stiff, but in the end, your post was the clear winner!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2015 18:22:50 No.2719081 Report

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>>2719054
>upload it to google drive
wow literally exists forever
>implying google will ever collapse
>implying their servers won't outlive humanity

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2015 21:25:25 No.2719143 Report

Quoted By: >>2719161 >>2719255

>>2719072
0/10
b&w film is the ONLY stable, archival media for photographs. period.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2015 21:56:19 No.2719161 Report

Quoted By: >>2719177 >>2719191 >>2719365

>>2719143
Unless there's a fire, or a flood, or someone scratches it, or it gets filed incorrectly, or...

I have my digital files stored in 4 different places (more, if my cloud storage has redundant servers), with zero effort or hassle. There is no reason my photos will degrade or disappear.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2015 22:28:23 No.2719177 Report

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>>2719161
>he doesnt know what digital rot is

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2015 22:46:51 No.2719191 Report

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>>2719161

they've already disappeared into a pile of mediocre shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2015 00:01:20 No.2719245 Report

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>>2718708
I will literally cum all over my chest if Alex Burke gets this job.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2015 00:11:20 No.2719255 Report

Quoted By: >>2719365

>>2719143
you don't understand the concept of the photographic archive.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2015 00:12:37 No.2719257 Report

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>tfw they will do background checks and see this thread
>tfw alex or biff will never get this job because they go on a pedo site

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2015 04:01:37 No.2719365 Report

Quoted By: >>2719366 >>2719501

>>2719161
Keep believing that retard
>>2719255
you literally have no argument? are you just shitposting?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2015 04:03:38 No.2719366 Report

Quoted By: >>2719952

>>2719365
Speaking of having no argument...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2015 11:06:36 No.2719501 Report

Quoted By: >>2719952

>>2719365
you don't understand the concept of shitposting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2015 12:12:05 No.2719517 Report

Quoted By: >>2719649

>>2718708
I wonder how many thousand applications they'll get from 19-year-olds with rebels and lots of Facebook Likes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2015 12:38:29 No.2719523 Report

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Alex pls do this!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2015 14:15:39 No.2719543 Report

Quoted By: >>2719548

>>2719050
the irony of that is how the fucked up version is now more iconic than the original, lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2015 14:30:31 No.2719548 Report

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>>2719543
>the fucked up version

spotted the plebe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2015 17:22:40 No.2719649 Report

Quoted By: >>2719686

>>2719517

Are you implying that you're somehow better?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2015 18:35:57 No.2719686 Report

Quoted By: >>2719719

>>2719649
he implied that exactly nowhere.

and if that hurt your feelings, there's probably a good reason it did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2015 18:36:14 No.2719687 Report

Quoted By: >>2719745 >>2719954

This has been a ridiculous week to be a large format photographer. I've gotten at least 20 emails and messages about this job posting and now there's a thread with my name in it.

Yeah sure I decided I would apply but felt quite silly while doing it because the job is hardly related to what I do. Social media instantly romanticized this job by calling it the next Ansel Adams which is a joke. If anyone read the questionnaire they would have seen that 10% of the questions were about large format photography and the rest were all about your experience with creating, storing, transporting, and archiving historical images to the standards of the library of congress and working with local and federal offices to manage and preserve historical documents. In other words I had to answer "no experience" to at least 80% of the questions. This job will go to someone that has extensive knowledge in historical archival procedures that can also fiddle with a field camera.

I bet they were expecting no more than a handful of applicants. I feel sorry for the poor hiring officer that will have to sort through ten thousand applications now. Good work petapixel, dpreview, buzzfeed, etc, you've done it again...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2015 19:07:05 No.2719703 Report

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>inb4 Peter Lik wins it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2015 19:35:10 No.2719719 Report

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>>2719686

It was implicit when he singled out that one demographic of photographers out of all the others.

My feelings are fine, by the way, but thanks for asking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2015 20:31:04 No.2719745 Report

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>>2719687
The only vague similarity to Ansel Adams is that "large format photography" is in the job description. But hey, why would bother fact checking when they have exaggeration and hype? :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2015 04:28:16 No.2719952 Report

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>>2719366
>>2719501
So you still have no clue about what constitutes archival?

Stop posting unless you have an actual rebuttal you fucking retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2015 04:30:35 No.2719954 Report

Quoted By: >>2719959

>>2719687
I applied, and luckily I've done some historical preservation/documentation, so I might technically have a somewhat better chance. However, I've heard of ex-Army photographers and other older guys that have worked in that field applying, so probably there's no way either of us have a chance, especially with the Vet preference.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2015 04:41:36 No.2719959 Report

Quoted By: >>2719964

>>2719954

You've got literally no chance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2015 04:45:56 No.2719964 Report

Quoted By: >>2719979

>>2719959
You literally have no idea whether I do or not. Fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2015 05:14:34 No.2719979 Report

Quoted By: >>2719988 >>2719998

>>2719964

Wow, the instant butthurt tells me that you actually hold some seed of hope in your heart that you'll actually get this job.

I don't have to know literally anything about you (though I'm sure you're "binders fulla 4x5" guy) to tell you that you won't get the job, and never had a chance. Cush-ass government jobs always go to cronies. Always. They listed it as a bureaucratic formality, but you can rest assured that the position was filled long ago.

Keep being defensive tho.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2015 05:26:42 No.2719988 Report

Quoted By: >>2719993

>>2719979
lol. you literally have no idea, but you're just pushing the cronyism bullshit. furthermore, I also happen to know that this job was opened once before but was not filled due to either budget concerns or lack of qualified applicants. long story short, you're wrong, so get over it. I doubt I'll get the job due to a few factors, most notably not being a Vet, but I do think it possible that I get a call for an interview.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2015 05:30:12 No.2719993 Report

Quoted By: >>2719994

>>2719988
>but I do think it possible that I get a call for an interview.

let me know when that happens. ;)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2015 05:32:17 No.2719994 Report

Quoted By: >>2720001

>>2719993
k bro.
at least I'm putting myself out there, and frankly I have the highest chance of anyone on this board, so whatever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2015 05:40:33 No.2719998 Report

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>>2719979
>it's an "anon makes an armchair-expert post that reveals how jaded and ignorant he really is" post

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2015 05:51:12 No.2720001 Report

Quoted By: >>2720013 >>2720016 >>2720017

>>2719994

I wish the best for you. I really do. I want you to come back and prove me wrong and wipe that smug grin right off my greasy little face.

But you won't, and I also would hate for you to get your hopes up.

Also,

>and frankly I have the highest chance of anyone on this board

has to be one of the cringiest things i've read around here in months.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2015 06:07:24 No.2720013 Report

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>>2720001
>has to be one of the cringiest things i've read around here in months.
I'm not sure why you are so butthurt.
It's actually true, but no it's not really saying much since most of this board is retarded rabal-toting high schoolers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2015 06:10:06 No.2720016 Report

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>>2720001
>But you won't, and I also would hate for you to get your hopes up.
Oh, and one more thing. Yeah, you'd hate for that to happen - you'd rather everyone be depressed and hopeless like you, right? Fuck you. Have fun in your little world of sadness.

Muhmegapickels !!0Z+XAssRGPW

Muhmegapickels !!0Z+XAssRGPW Sat 12 Dec 2015 06:10:14 No.2720017 Report

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>>2720001
>has to be one of the cringiest things i've read around here in months.
He applied, so he has more of a chance than you, fuck face. Lighten up and stop being such a pessimistic bitch.

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