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the worlds №1 photographre Wed 21 Sep 2016 17:39:02 No.2930634 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>2930638 >>2930641 >>2930642 >>2930857 >>2937224 >>2937228 >>2937360

do you like half frame cameras
have you used one before\
how do you think they compare to full frame cameras? for instance the pen F vs a full frame slr, or a half-frame compact vs the rollei 35

i have a real love for half frame cameras so id like to discuss them with you

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 17:44:01 No.2930638 Report

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>>2930634
>how do you think they compare to full frame cameras?

They are half of those

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 17:45:54 No.2930641 Report

Quoted By: >>2930645 >>2930646

>>2930634

I heard the Pen F is phenomenal, but for some reason, I kind of hate having no metering built in...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 17:46:13 No.2930642 Report

Quoted By: >>2930646

>>2930634
>do you like half frame cameras
i love them.
>have you used one before\
yes i have. i have 3 half frame cameras.
>how do you think they compare to full frame cameras? for instance the pen F vs a full frame slr, or a half-frame compact vs the rollei 35
my ff cameras get scarce to no use. my half frames get all the attention. double amount of photos means total fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 17:47:47 No.2930645 Report

Quoted By: >>2930656

>>2930641
But anon, an internal meter might make you a lazy photographer and could lead to needle matching.

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the worlds №1 photographre Wed 21 Sep 2016 17:48:18 No.2930646 Report

Quoted By: >>2930680

>>2930641
funny, because i hate having an onboard meter. i find it distracting. one of the reasons i love the Pen series so much (well, the Pen Pen S and Pen W specifically) is due to their really spartan design

>>2930642
>i have 3 half frame cameras.
what sorts?

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the worlds №1 photographre Wed 21 Sep 2016 17:59:26 No.2930652 Report

Quoted By: >>2930666 >>2945126

anyway i'm strongly, strongly considering buying this
http://page21.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/j365712106
thoughts? anyone used the original pen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 18:03:59 No.2930656 Report

Quoted By: >>2930660

>>2930645
B-but... e-exposure...

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the worlds №1 photographre Wed 21 Sep 2016 18:06:27 No.2930660 Report

Quoted By: >>2930705

>>2930656
honestly its not that hard to just judge the light with no meter at all, that's what i do 9 times out of 10

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the worlds №1 photographre Wed 21 Sep 2016 18:12:45 No.2930666 Report

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>>2930652
oh fuck or what about this dope Olympus Pen ashtray

http://page15.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/t468400333

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Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 18:35:08 No.2930680 Report

Quoted By: >>2930713 >>2937231 >>2939465

>>2930646
>what sorts?

those. and a yashica samurai.

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Catsby !RqPRxvq4p6 Wed 21 Sep 2016 19:01:42 No.2930699 Report

Quoted By: >>2930708 >>2930713

Finished my first roll in the Agat 18k a little while ago, and developing my second roll from it tomorrow.
I found it a lot of fun to use, and I really enjoyed the results. It seems like it lends itself to creepshots for some reason, maybe because it's so small and unintrusive.
The exposure settings are really weird on it, but I didn't bother metering anything and just used the small pictures of clouds and suns to guesstimate. 90% of the exposures were acceptable so far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 19:06:23 No.2930705 Report

Quoted By: >>2930713

>>2930660
yeah, obviously you'll get useable results when you're shooting underexposed black and white film and actually want a grainy high contrast blurry look

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!kurwaRB7YU Wed 21 Sep 2016 19:07:48 No.2930708 Report

Quoted By: >>2930798 >>2937227

>>2930699
>really weird
the shutter/aperture combos are right there on the back, you're just lazy :p

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the worlds №1 photographre Wed 21 Sep 2016 19:11:25 No.2930713 Report

Quoted By: >>2930721 >>2930798

>>2930680
the samurai has always seemed like a weird af camera to me, how does it feel to actually use it?

>>2930705
wait what, do you actually know what the photos i take are like, or are you talking in generalities? do we know each other??

>>2930699
>maybe because it's so small and unintrusive.
the low profile of half frame cameras is definitely one of the things that endears them to me, even when you're photographing and people see the camera it's almost as if they don't care/don't take it seriously bc it's not a big "pro" looking SLR

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 19:16:35 No.2930721 Report

Quoted By: >>2930740

>>2930713
>the samurai has always seemed like a weird af camera to me, how does it feel to actually use it?

once you get the feel of it, its fun. you can operate it all with one hand, zoom in, focus, shoot. the zoom option is very cool. the image rendition is very forgettable, however.

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the worlds №1 photographre Wed 21 Sep 2016 19:41:12 No.2930740 Report

Quoted By: >>2930751

>>2930721
>Lens: 1:3.8-1:4.8/25mm-100mm Zoom
dang yeah that sounds like a pretty good zoom. on the other hand the samurai just seems like it has way too many bells and whistles for my taste, idk

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 19:50:10 No.2930751 Report

Quoted By: >>2930767

>>2930740
>just seems like it has way too many bells and whistles

dont use them? im all for minimalist cameras, but this one is an oddball worth having. the inbuilt flash makes it a treat for passing it around at drunk parties. i think its a good camera for taking visual notes too, even for rough drafts of photos you plan to do.

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the worlds №1 photographre Wed 21 Sep 2016 20:12:10 No.2930767 Report

Quoted By: >>2930782

>>2930751
you should post some of your photos from it!

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Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 20:28:40 No.2930782 Report

Quoted By: >>2943389

>>2930767

will do but in a different thread. here is one, though. sadly the camera overexposed the whole roll (it was slide film).

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Catsby !RqPRxvq4p6 Wed 21 Sep 2016 20:51:29 No.2930798 Report

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>>2930708
I'd rather use the cute pictures :3

>>2930713
Exactly, I've had lots of people look straight into the lens when I pass them on the street, and not even raise an eyelid, whereas if I'm out with an SLR people will sometimes shy away even if the lens is clearly pointed in a totally different direction from them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Sep 2016 21:49:08 No.2930852 Report

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I own a konica AA35 and a yashica samurai x3 im looking to pick up a yashica samurai z at some point.

Chalino

Chalino Wed 21 Sep 2016 21:57:18 No.2930857 Report

Quoted By: >>2930861

>>2930634
Never heard of this till now, looks cool
Thinking about buying my gf one because she only shoots film and always complains about how expensive rolls are
Do the Olympus and canon half Frame cameras use the OM and CFD mount? Or do half frame cameras use their own mounts?

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the worlds №1 photographre Wed 21 Sep 2016 22:05:41 No.2930861 Report

Quoted By: >>2930962 >>2942875

>>2930857
you mean like for interchangeable lenses? 99% of half frame cameras are compacts with a fixed lens that can't be swapped out. the only one with a system of lenses afaik is the Olympus Pen F, and I think it has a unique type of mount. They made OM (and other) adapters for it though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Sep 2016 02:02:26 No.2930962 Report

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>>2930861

there was the Canon Demi C too, it had 2 interchangeable lenses (a 50 and a 28), it wasnt in any way as big or as popular as the PEN system, but, it existed.

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Catsby !RqPRxvq4p6 Fri 23 Sep 2016 10:02:29 No.2931802 Report

Quoted By: >>2933157

Developed my second roll from the Agat today. Couldn't be fucked to scan the frames individually on the Nikon scanner, so I just put them through the minilab scanner which only scans 35mm frames.

Any photoshop wizards have a super quick way to split the diptychs into separate files, in an as automated way as possible?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 10:11:20 No.2931803 Report

Quoted By: >>2931805 >>2933165

I have a fuji xpro 2, it's great fun for a half frame, but the quality never matches up to full frame.
I tend to just use mine at parties and things

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Sep 2016 10:31:12 No.2931805 Report

Quoted By: >>2933165

>>2931803
kek
i have the richo half frame myself, also just use it for party snaps
not my first choice for serious work

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Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 10:51:23 No.2933157 Report

Quoted By: >>2933331

>>2931802
Leave them as diptychs. Revel in the hipster joy of serendipitous pairings.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 11:08:49 No.2933165 Report

Quoted By:

>>2931803
>>2931805
>falling for the half frame meme

kek

>not investing your shekels in L A R G E F O R M A T

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Catsby !RqPRxvq4p6 Sun 25 Sep 2016 17:29:11 No.2933331 Report

Quoted By: >>2935183

>>2933157
I do think they fit well together on a surprisingly high amount of the diptychs, but it would still be nice to be able to split them easily.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Sep 2016 17:47:43 No.2933339 Report

Quoted By: >>2933726

Seems cool. What's a good cheap half frame to start with?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Sep 2016 07:45:26 No.2933726 Report

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>>2933339

ive seen the most basic canon demi (the ee28 i think its called) for about $15 on ebay. make sure the lightmeter works.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Sep 2016 04:12:10 No.2935183 Report

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>>2933331
Look up how to record photoshop actions. You can batch most anything to whatever your specifications may be with this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Oct 2016 00:09:19 No.2937205 Report

Quoted By: >>2937207

Damn, talk about coincidence but I saw this thread and decided to buy a half frame and a couple days later my (step) grandfather gets a stroke, and while the grandma was looking through his old stuff she found lots of old cameras, one of which is a yashica samurai x3.0 in perfect condition (probably never used by the looks of it) I'm not really a half frame guy (medium format for life) but this shit is too good to pass up, Anyone know anything about the yashica? Because I googled and didn't get great info

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Oct 2016 00:14:41 No.2937207 Report

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>>2937205
I own the x3 and i love it easy one handed camcorder style shooting. Hunts for focus pretty bad its really loud but takes a great shot.

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Ancientpanda !Gay6ZukTOQ Sat 01 Oct 2016 00:30:52 No.2937224 Report

Quoted By: >>2937232 >>2937238

>>2930634
I have a stack of half frame cameras, and I love them.

These FED Microns are a lot of fun to use, and getting double (usually more than double) the exposures is great.

Picked up an Olympus Pen F recently as well, which is just amazing to use. The way it looks, and the way it operates are fantastic.

The vertical framing always feels more natural to me, and some of my favourite film shots were done with half-frame rather than full frame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Oct 2016 00:43:41 No.2937227 Report

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>>2930708
whats that even meant to mean ?

what camear is that also ?

does it have a shitter speed of 540 ? wtf

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Oct 2016 00:45:05 No.2937228 Report

Quoted By: >>2937367

>>2930634
i was thinking of getting one.

whats it like to get prints/scans from a normie/local shit pharmacy shop ?

theres only one half decent lab in my country and it costs 15 quid to get there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Oct 2016 00:47:10 No.2937231 Report

Quoted By: >>2937236

>>2930680
>yashica samurai.
fuckkkk its booottifuil

are they expensive/easy to get ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Oct 2016 00:49:12 No.2937232 Report

Quoted By: >>2937479

>>2937224
witch version would you recommend the 1 or 2 ?

i have three soviet cams and i think i have the bug.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Oct 2016 01:13:31 No.2937236 Report

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>>2937231
60 dollars.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/291891295455

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Oct 2016 01:17:47 No.2937238 Report

Quoted By: >>2937479

>>2937224
I think I've seen you before a couple years ago

Good shit mane

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Anonymous Sat 01 Oct 2016 06:34:25 No.2937360 Report

Quoted By: >>2937363

>>2930634
PEN F YUSSSSSS

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Anonymous Sat 01 Oct 2016 06:46:48 No.2937363 Report

Quoted By: >>2937364 >>2937365 >>2947556

>>2937360
I like my Pen F a lot. One of the most solid-feeling cameras in the hand, and the industrial design is beautiful.

(Taken on Ektar 100)

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Anonymous Sat 01 Oct 2016 06:49:37 No.2937364 Report

Quoted By: >>2946942

>>2937363
The F system lenses are compact, but not all that great. In particular, they have some really strange bokeh. I have the 40mm/F1.4, but I shoot over half of my photos with an OM 50mm/F1.4 attached, and occasionally the big ol' OM 80mm/F2

(Take with the F system 40mm/F1.4, Superia 800)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Oct 2016 06:53:48 No.2937365 Report

Quoted By:

>>2937363

thats some outstanding quality for half frame. might get the pen f eventually, but the cool cameras to buy list is so long.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Oct 2016 07:01:33 No.2937367 Report

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>>2937228
Theres plenty of labs that are cheaper than that and do a great job, where in the uk are you. I dont even think peak charge that much.

Unless you're talking b&w, in which case, do it yourself.

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Ancientpanda !Gay6ZukTOQ Sat 01 Oct 2016 11:22:09 No.2937479 Report

Quoted By: >>2937490

>>2937232
The 2 is a full frame version, so if you want half frame then you will need the regular Micron.

They are both fun to use though.

>>2937238
I'm always lurking.

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!kurwaRB7YU Sat 01 Oct 2016 12:21:25 No.2937490 Report

Quoted By: >>2937570

>>2937479
how're those selenium automode meters holding up after all these years though, I can't help but wonder.

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Ancientpanda !Gay6ZukTOQ Sat 01 Oct 2016 15:36:03 No.2937570 Report

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>>2937490
They are holding up quite well. The exposures never seem off on any of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Oct 2016 18:47:14 No.2937668 Report

Quoted By: >>2939527

Question: would the image circle of a half frame PEN lens fit my APSC sensor?
I just adapted a half frame industar lens and it works well, but I was wondering if PEN would too

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Anonymous Sat 01 Oct 2016 19:53:09 No.2937697 Report

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Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 23:40:26 No.2939465 Report

Quoted By: >>2939620

>>2930680
I'm also on the demi train.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 00:33:15 No.2939527 Report

Quoted By: >>2939547

>>2937668
Yes, PEN lenses can be adapted to most APS-C sensor cameras - and because of this, most PEN lenses are BONKERS expensive on eBay right now (aside from thee plentiful 38mm/1.8, 40mm/1.4, and 100mm/3.5).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 00:45:44 No.2939547 Report

Quoted By: >>2939567 >>2939711

>>2939527
>tfw i missed a pen ft + 42/1.2 on eboi for $400 because my phone alarm didn't go off
God knows the last thing I need is another camera, but still...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 00:57:44 No.2939567 Report

Quoted By: >>2939596 >>2939624

>>2939547
>because my phone alarm didn't go off

ayy. snipping on ebay very early in the morning is comfy as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 01:16:03 No.2939596 Report

Quoted By: >>2939601

>>2939567
It's a very #autralianproblems moment, shit always ends at 3am or something our time.
In better news, I also missed the end of an auction for 20 rolls of 35mm Astia the other day.
>mfw $528

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 01:19:53 No.2939601 Report

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>>2939596
>20 rolls of 35mm Astia the other day
>$528

saw that one, it went to retarded price. 2 days forward an auction for 15 of the same rolls ended at like $90. so, keep lurking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 01:42:14 No.2939620 Report

Quoted By:

>>2939465

got any shots with it to peep at?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 01:48:44 No.2939624 Report

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>>2939567
Tfw lost a zeiss lens because someone out bid me like an hour before the auction ended, and I woke up like 30 minutes after it was over, this morning.
End my life

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 03:49:56 No.2939711 Report

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>>2939547
The 42/1.2 *really* isn't all that much better than the 40/1.4 to justify the wildly inflated prices. The 60/1.5 on the other hand...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 18:25:42 No.2940752 Report

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Just got a Pen EES-2 for $45

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Oct 2016 10:31:35 No.2942875 Report

Quoted By: >>2946982

>>2930861

>99% of half frame cameras are compacts with a fixed lens that can't be swapped out.
>the only one with a system of lenses afaik is the Olympus Pen F

Then I am the one percent. I have one of these and I can use all my AR mount lenses and, with the adapter I picked up, I can use my Nikon glass as well.

The joy of switching between full frame for real shots and half for snaps is a dream.

I fucking love Konica. Wish they made a medium format SLR. Other than that prototype. But that's off-topic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Oct 2016 11:00:25 No.2943389 Report

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>>2930782
That looks like an old sci-fi set or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Oct 2016 12:18:02 No.2945126 Report

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>>2930652

Been using one of those for a while now, picked a mint original run pen up for 25 dollars. It's alright for snaps, but the 1/200 shutter speed limit is going to piss you off

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 18:22:00 No.2946942 Report

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>>2937364
fyi the pen g-zuiko auto-s f1.4 40mm is made with thorium and is quite radioactive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Oct 2016 20:26:59 No.2946982 Report

Quoted By:

>>2942875
You mean the Konica Auto-Reflex (with the dash)?
Sweet! I've always wanted one of those. Pretty rare though.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Oct 2016 18:12:45 No.2947556 Report

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>>2937363
Ektar 100 is sharp no doubt, but I think 400 is not bad either.
Pen FT, Fuji Superia Xtra 400

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