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Anonymous Thu 29 Sep 2016 16:22:40 No.2936201 View View Reply Original Report

Hey manes can you guys give me some advice on shooting with color infared film. Im hoping to bring a roll with me on a trip to Yosemite in November. i dont wanna fuck up an expensive roll so any first hand advice would be cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Sep 2016 17:04:32 No.2936241 Report

Quoted By: >>2936271 >>2936295

http://filmphotographyproject.com/store/135-infrared-fpp-color-infrared
http://www.tarquinius.de/
These are the only two sources I've ever been able to find regarding sellers, the euro link I've heard good things from
https://youtu.be/Rw1w2TP4xrg
This is a vid link to someone who reviewed the first link, he fucked up by cheaping out on the filter.
Get a nice filter for your roll, also make sure your camera doesn't have auto wind, auto rewind, or a DX reader. It's common for cameras with those features to have IR sensors in the camera body that would cause fogging on the film

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Anonymous Thu 29 Sep 2016 17:20:32 No.2936266 Report

Quoted By: >>2936273 >>2936727 >>2939739

While we are at it, can I get some info on ultraviolet photography?

I got the macro lens for pentax 67 along with every extension tube. I really want to make some insane close ups like this.

Wont I have to compensate for like -20 stops though? h-heh

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Sep 2016 17:24:36 No.2936271 Report

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>>2936241
What filter do you rec? i dont want it to be too deep of a red

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Sep 2016 17:25:38 No.2936273 Report

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>>2936266
whoah i didnt even know this was a thing

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Anonymous Thu 29 Sep 2016 17:32:10 No.2936282 Report

Quoted By: >>2936284 >>2936314 >>2936315

>>2936201
Some of the things I've learned,
>Yellow 12 filter is the only worth file filter to use, don't bother with Orange or Red
>It needs to be very sunny out to get a good effect, depending on where you live and the time of year this means you might only have a few peak hours to get shots in
>Don't bother if the foliage isn't green and healthy
>Water looks really nice whenever you can incorporate it

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Anonymous Thu 29 Sep 2016 17:33:12 No.2936284 Report

Quoted By: >>2936314

>>2936282

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Sep 2016 17:36:49 No.2936290 Report

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>>2936273
Yeah its niche as fuck.

Seen a UV filter before (obviously not your normal filter) and it looked like pitch black glass. kek.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Sep 2016 17:40:30 No.2936295 Report

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>>2936241
>So i just taped some yellow onto my lens
>taped
>$35 film
watta fuckin dumbass

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Sep 2016 17:54:47 No.2936314 Report

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>>2936282
>>2936284
these look really nice

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Sep 2016 17:54:55 No.2936315 Report

Quoted By: >>2936323

>>2936282
> water

yeah i love the tone it gets, like some grape juice of sorts.

you got it from filmphotographyproject? both look overexposed, could you get a "balanced" shot?

ive been tempted to get a 120 roll, its like $70 on ebay.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Sep 2016 18:01:51 No.2936323 Report

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>>2936315
Yes I got mine from FPP. Here's is probably the best exposed shot I've ever gotten with it, the white sky is just what happens I guess. I'll post an example of a shot I bracketed an exposure stop to show the kinds of range you get. I think overexposing honestly helps the looks a bit.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Sep 2016 18:02:55 No.2936327 Report

Quoted By: >>2936328

1/2

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Anonymous Thu 29 Sep 2016 18:03:57 No.2936328 Report

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>>2936327
2/2

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Anonymous Thu 29 Sep 2016 18:30:56 No.2936369 Report

Quoted By: >>2936385 >>2936387

:::^^^^)))

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Sep 2016 18:57:23 No.2936376 Report

Quoted By: >>2936391

do you get to see anything with infrared film that you can't see with visible light other than red trees?

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Anonymous Thu 29 Sep 2016 19:02:45 No.2936381 Report

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ayy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Sep 2016 19:09:14 No.2936385 Report

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>>2936369
thats cool man but honestly its mostly about the process of shooting the film for me. i feel like if i did this it wouldn't be as exciting for me as shooting a new type of film

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Anonymous Thu 29 Sep 2016 19:11:18 No.2936386 Report

Quoted By: >>2936389 >>2936406 >>2936424

"infra was a mistake"
Richard Mosse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Sep 2016 19:11:32 No.2936387 Report

Quoted By:

>>2936369
>cheating

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Sep 2016 19:14:08 No.2936389 Report

Quoted By:

>>2936386
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Sep 2016 19:15:36 No.2936391 Report

Quoted By: >>2936400

>>2936376
Color infrared not so much, it's mostly just an interesting aesthetic. Black and white infrared is more useful with crime scene photography and some digital cameras have models where the IR filter is removed from over the sensor specifically for the purpose of forensic work. Fraudulent documents can usually be found through the use of IR photography. Fingerprints and bodily fluids also show up in IR photography.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Sep 2016 19:36:41 No.2936400 Report

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>>2936391
serial killer detected

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Sep 2016 19:45:52 No.2936406 Report

Quoted By: >>2936410

>>2936386
Does he mean that he wishes he didn't reveal how he did his work, so others wouldn't copy him?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Sep 2016 19:54:35 No.2936410 Report

Quoted By: >>2936411

>>2936406

i think he means people forgot about the message and went obsessed into the technical part of his work. he fell for the "what camera" bait.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Sep 2016 19:56:22 No.2936411 Report

Quoted By: >>2936420

>>2936410
Oh nice, what a noble dude. Must suck to have people misconstrue ones work like that

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Sep 2016 20:08:38 No.2936420 Report

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>>2936411

must have been like what happened to alec guiness. he was in lawrence of arabia and other top stuff, but for everyone he is obi wan and gets asked star wars questions every fucking day. anything related to the franchise makes his blood boil.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Sep 2016 20:13:22 No.2936424 Report

Quoted By: >>2936425

>>2936386

>use a cheap gimmick that distracts from a real tragedy
>HURR PEOPLE ARE MISSING THE MESSAGE

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Sep 2016 20:15:40 No.2936425 Report

Quoted By: >>2936427

>>2936424
>cheap gimmick

anything but that. looks aesthetic as fuck.

to think that book is currently $800 but when it went out it was like $50. life is neverending pain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Sep 2016 20:20:29 No.2936427 Report

Quoted By: >>2936429

>>2936425

You're a fucking simp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Sep 2016 20:21:33 No.2936429 Report

Quoted By: >>2936431

>>2936427

no u.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Sep 2016 20:32:34 No.2936431 Report

Quoted By: >>2936436

>>2936429

I'm certifiably not, and here's why:

I don't use buzz memes like "aesthetic", especially in reference to what should have been ethical documentary work.

I also know that monographs have ALWAYS been expensive as fuck, which is part of their whole allure. That's why I don't act gobsmacked when a work put out by a photographer with cachet is expensive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Sep 2016 20:43:10 No.2936436 Report

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>>2936431
wow wer so smert

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Sep 2016 04:28:55 No.2936651 Report

Quoted By: >>2936654

So whats the best film to use? The Rollei color stuff? Youd think the expired kodak film would be an unwise idea

What else? The yellow 12 filter? Do you have to compensate stops at all? I figure the filter itself must be -2

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Sep 2016 04:35:28 No.2936654 Report

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>>2936651
use the proper film, kodak aerochrome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Sep 2016 07:49:25 No.2936727 Report

Quoted By: >>2936738 >>2936740 >>2937030

>>2936266
Yeh, you need a quartz lens.

And you know a lot (most) camera bodies don't work with ir film right? And you need to have a lens with ir focus marks or everything will be out of focus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Sep 2016 08:06:17 No.2936738 Report

Quoted By: >>2936809

>>2936727
Why the hell wouldnt they work with IR film? Camera body cant work with film? A camera is a fucking box with a removable hole in it. I would just prefocus and then screw on the filter for fucks sake. kek.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Sep 2016 08:07:54 No.2936740 Report

Quoted By: >>2936809

>>2936727
Besides you dont use IR film to get ultraviolet. Jesus Christ. Its Ultraviolet photography. Opposite end of Infrared.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Sep 2016 11:05:57 No.2936809 Report

Quoted By: >>2936903

>>2936740
Op said he wants to do ir and uv, noob. I'm pointing out issues with both. Neither can you just buy a roll and shoot it.

>>2936738
Spot the guy that hasn't done his research, most canon eos bodies will fog ir film, Quite badly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Sep 2016 15:31:49 No.2936903 Report

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>>2936809
Pentax 67 does not have an IR component to fog the film. That's specifically why I mentioned it you cunts

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Sep 2016 19:18:35 No.2937030 Report

Quoted By: >>2937366

>>2936727
You're retarded, any manual camera will work with IR film as long as it doesn't scan DX codes. I've never seen a manual focus lens without IR indicators and even then you only need to compensate for focus with B&W IR not color.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Oct 2016 06:57:02 No.2937366 Report

Quoted By: >>2937376 >>2940109

>>2937030
You dumb son.

Dx codes aren't scanned, they're read via electrical contacts.

Plenty of mf lenses dont have ir indicators (i have around 50 lenses)

You do have to shift focus with colour ir film

Plenty of bodies will fog ir film

All of this information is freely available on the internet via a short google search, thanks for showing us the depths of your knowledge and how wrong it's possible to be in just 2 sentences.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Oct 2016 07:40:22 No.2937376 Report

Quoted By: >>2937397

>>2937366
>Dx codes aren't scanned, they're read via electrical contacts.

Ive seen this a lot as well but I think they say that because most cameras that have DX readers also have IR counters.

Your right about everything though some people are straight too retarded to find easy to obtain information.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Oct 2016 09:06:52 No.2937397 Report

Quoted By: >>2937439

>>2937376
Personally, i look forward to the "lab ruined my film" thread in 2 weeks time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 01 Oct 2016 09:57:21 No.2937439 Report

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>>2937397
too much kek, I'll keep an eye out as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 03 Oct 2016 21:12:58 No.2939268 Report

Quoted By: >>2939791 >>2939807

I want to try shoot some infrared film. My question is i use a mamiya 6 im having trouble finding any information relating to its internal operations. Does anyone know if a mamiya 6 use any internal infrared systems during operation? I know it has no dx reading and no windows or uses an infrared frame counter. So would i be safe to use infrared film in the 6?.
Cheers also what was mr mosse using camera wise?

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Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 03:46:34 No.2939709 Report

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If you shoot Kodak EIR/Aerochrome (same film) you need a yellow 12 filter and a lab that does traditional dip and dunk e6 processing. Shoot on sunny days and set the ISO to 400. Use the IR dot on your lens for focus adjustments. For example, if you don't use the adjustment and set the focus to infinity the focus point will be behind the film plane (almost all my images are soft because I didn't know this). Try to shoot smaller apertures when you can to give you greater probability of getting things in focus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 04:34:28 No.2939739 Report

Quoted By: >>2940093

>>2936266
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/191827622437?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
I've been looking at this guy. His filters are pricey though. Not sure I trust some random asshole when I don't see any public-facing, proper-website-running outfits doing this shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 07:16:06 No.2939791 Report

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>>2939268
Rtfm cunt

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Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 07:51:05 No.2939807 Report

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>>2939268
IR film is fine in the 6. Nothing to worry about. Mosse shot using some type of LF camera.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 18:08:15 No.2940093 Report

Quoted By: >>2940124

>>2939739
oyvey

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 18:31:42 No.2940109 Report

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>>2937366
>plenty of lenses dont have ir indicators
>around 50 lenses
bruh ive only ever owned like 10 mf lenses and they all have the ir indicator and i didnt even know what it was when i bought them. what pos lenses you buyin?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 18:44:31 No.2940124 Report

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>>2940093
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