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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 15:01:33 No.2970386 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>2971244 >>2971797 >>2973002 >>2973238

Last Thread >>2965713

Anything about lenses, cameras, mounts, systems, buying, pricing, selling, etc. GOES IN HERE!

Don't open new threads for gear-related issues.
No pointless (brand) arguments and dickwaving allowed! You have been warned! Just questions, answers and advice.

I repeat, ANYTHING GEAR RELATED goes in here.

And don't forget, be polite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 15:03:34 No.2970388 Report

Quoted By: >>2970389 >>2970391 >>2970651 >>2970657

Nikon D600 + 24mm2.8D for a Fujifilm X-t1 + 18-55? Is it worth??

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 15:07:29 No.2970389 Report

Quoted By: >>2970393

>>2970388
Do you own the Nikon or the Fuji currently?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 15:08:16 No.2970391 Report

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>>2970388
It might be worth it if you actually wanted the other camera...?

I myself don't want either of these.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 15:08:33 No.2970393 Report

Quoted By: >>2970400

>>2970389

actually I own a D700 and the D600, but only with the 24mm lens...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 15:27:25 No.2970400 Report

Quoted By: >>2970406

>>2970393
It would be better to spend your money on a good lens instead switching bodies with a kit lens.
I say get a 50 or 85mm lens, keep the 24mm on the D600 for landscape and street, use the 85 on the D700 for portraits. You know what, get a 50/1.8 regardless as a generic walkaround/portrait lens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 15:39:39 No.2970406 Report

Quoted By: >>2970410 >>2970416

>>2970400

As soon as I sell my D600 I will be buying an 85mm1.8G and a 50mm1.8G. Maybe in the future I`m going to be able to get a 24mm1.8G N

So it`s better me to keep Nikon?

thanks anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 15:42:22 No.2970409 Report

Quoted By: >>2970413 >>2970414

Any recommendations for camera-related gear to take while hiking/camping?

Looking to be getting back into camping again, and would like finally get some good wilderness shots after some not-too-bad backpacking. Know I'm in the market for a decent tripod, but I'll look into anything ya'll of any experience found useful out there while sales are going on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 15:42:44 No.2970410 Report

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>>2970406
You could keep your Nikon or go to Olympus/Panasonic/Sony/Fuji or something else - and their respective glass.

It just depends on what your preferences are. And how would we know that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 15:45:00 No.2970411 Report

Quoted By: >>2970415

Despite sizes and weight,is m43 any good compared to ASP-C or FF?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 15:45:25 No.2970412 Report

Quoted By: >>2970415 >>2970423 >>2970439 >>2971778

Want a camera + lens for landscape, portrait and video.
My budget is 500$-650$.
Need suggestions please.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 15:47:10 No.2970413 Report

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>>2970409
>Any recommendations for camera-related gear to take while hiking/camping?
MILC, batteries, wide angle prime, normal prime or zoom lens, plastic bag if it's not waterproof, tripod.

Not usually bringing anything else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 15:47:43 No.2970414 Report

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>>2970409
Check out the Sirui T-025x tripod, folds up small as fuck. If you don't need one that small, but still want small there's the T-024x, slightly bigger but also more sturdy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 15:49:15 No.2970415 Report

Quoted By: >>2970514

>>2970411
Depends on which one vs which. At a premium, M43 will perform about like upper midrange APS-C cameras.

They don't have much of a weight advantage over APS-C MILC though.

They can't really compete with FF cameras+lenses in those cases where you actually needed a FF camera+lens.

>>2970412
A6000.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 15:50:09 No.2970416 Report

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>>2970406
Yes, switching systems for an upgrade is just misplacing the problem, you will still in need of a good lens, experience, time, location etc...
So you just spent your money for no real gain. A 7 years old body with a good lens is much better than a new body with a kit lens.
Also don't be afraid of the old screwdrive AF lenses, well built beasts that do their job well with excellent IQ. Only the AF will be somewhat noisy and a bit slower.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 16:11:14 No.2970423 Report

Quoted By: >>2970436 >>2970515

>>2970412
Pentax K-70 with kit lens. And a tripod.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 17:08:06 No.2970436 Report

Quoted By: >>2970455

>>2970423
>pentax K-70
For video?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 17:18:13 No.2970439 Report

Quoted By: >>2970514

>>2970412
Sony a6000. currently on cybermonday, very cheap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:30:14 No.2970455 Report

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>>2970436
It has dual pixel in video.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:01:44 No.2970472 Report

Quoted By: >>2970480

Omd em1ii got a dpreview gold. Nice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:13:27 No.2970480 Report

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>>2970472
>dpreview

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:37:04 No.2970485 Report

Quoted By: >>2970537

Fuji x-pro1 shooter here...
just found a x100 for real cheap

my question :
what makes the x100 different from the xtrans sensor ?
are there similarities ? i mean sensor wise
ik that its 12mp but
what do i need to know about the differences between
xtrans vs the bayer sensor built in x100 ?
thx

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:37:56 No.2970486 Report

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Someone is selling a Pentax 645N for a good price, but the exposure compensation knob has broken off. I haven't had much luck finding information about how to repair this but I did find a replacement part. Does anyone have 645N and/or know how to replair it? Pic related

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:55:52 No.2970495 Report

Quoted By: >>2970500 >>2972704

Got about $350 to spend on a camera body. Upgrading from a Nikon D200. Mainly Landscape work. Considering a D3300, a D5200, and a D7000. Is the image quality and "weatherproofing" on the D7000 worth the extra weight? What are the cases for each?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:01:41 No.2970499 Report

Quoted By: >>2970507

So if I can get https://www.amazon.com/Nikon-NIKKOR-24-70mm-Focus-Cameras/dp/B000VDCT3C used for $1300 or this https://www.amazon.com/Nikon-24-70mm-Vibration-Reduction-Cameras/dp/B013D1BMFE for around $2000, I imagine I should go with the non-VR one, right? I doubt VR is really worth an $800 difference.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:03:01 No.2970500 Report

Quoted By: >>2970506

>>2970495
I used to own a D7200 which is very similar to the D7000. Weatherproofing is always a plus for shooting in rain, and the D7000-series cameras have internal focus motors as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:10:45 No.2970506 Report

Quoted By: >>2970510

>>2970500
Would you happen to know how the overall image quality of a D7000 is relative to the other two? If it's noticeably better, that would be the kicker to put it ahead for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:11:03 No.2970507 Report

Quoted By: >>2970526

>>2970499
Have you used a longer lens with VR? If not try it out somewhere. If you see yourself using the >50mm end of that lens a lot then I would highly recommend the extra for VR. Sharp images at 70mm any slower than 1/60s are near impossible without VR

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:22:34 No.2970510 Report

Quoted By: >>2970517

>>2970506
D7000 actually has fewer megapixels than the others

http://www.imaging-resource.com/cameras/nikon/d7000/vs/nikon/d5200/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:37:57 No.2970514 Report

Quoted By: >>2970525

>>2970415
>>2970439
For me its a tie between Canon 70D and Sony a6000.
The problem with Sony is all those expensive lenses. The advantage is cheap af body.
And it is opposite with Canon.

Don't know what to do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:38:58 No.2970515 Report

Quoted By:

>>2970423
>Pentax K-70
Nice meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:41:20 No.2970517 Report

Quoted By: >>2970522 >>2970618

>>2970510
But as far as I'm aware MP aren't as significant anymore? As in we have more than we need?

I really just don't know what to go with. All of the options look fine to me, I just need some concrete reason to pick one of the three.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:03:52 No.2970522 Report

Quoted By: >>2970532

>>2970517
The better handling, viewfinder, AF, weatherproofing, and in-body focusing motor on the D7000 are worth more than the 6 megapickle of more resolution in the D3/5k series, IMO.

Noise & DR-wise there really is not a huge difference between them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:07:55 No.2970525 Report

Quoted By: >>2970530

>>2970514
> The problem with Sony is all those expensive lenses.
Good and relatively cheap:
12mm Samyang f/2
19/30/60mm Sigma f/2.8 + 30mm Sigma f/1.8
30mm Sony macro

If you want something just pretty cheap, a ~$25 Fujian 30mm f/1.7 or a $60 Neewer 35mm f/1.7 or whatever adapted MF lens.

And then we have a good bunch more that aren't *terribly*expensive:
28mm Sony f/2 with its two teleconverters, 35mm Sony f/1.8, 50mm Sony f/2.8 Macro, 85mm Samyang f / 1.4 and so on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:09:54 No.2970526 Report

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>>2970507
Not sure if I'd go above 50mm all that often. I mostly shoot at 35mm and 50mm. The non-VR version has great reviews as well so I guess the no-VR option hasn't deterred a lot of people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:17:02 No.2970530 Report

Quoted By: >>2970543 >>2970589

>>2970525
E-Mount is lacking a lot of lens niches for some reason.
I didn't take a Sony because it lacked the 25-70mm (equivalent), 2.8 constant aperture, parfocal, stabilized lens that is so important in non-cinematic Video making.
Both MFT and EF have it. EF has like 3 or 4 of it.
Also, Handling!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:21:18 No.2970532 Report

Quoted By: >>2972707

>>2970522
Alright, I'm going to head somewhere I can handle them in person to decide if the weight difference is going to be as big of a factor as I'm thinking. That portability aspect is the only thing hold me back as of now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:51:22 No.2970537 Report

Quoted By: >>2970540

>>2970485
you seem like you rolled real low on INT when you created your character

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:55:32 No.2970540 Report

Quoted By:

>>2970537
what

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:01:51 No.2970543 Report

Quoted By: >>2970594

>>2970530
> E-Mount is lacking a lot of lens niches for some reason.
I figure there are a bunch of niches where it's pretty weak. Of course, you can adapt lenses to fill any of these.

That other cameras suck at having high-end glass is much worse to me.

> I didn't take a Sony because it lacked the 25-70mm (equivalent), 2.8 constant aperture, parfocal, stabilized lens that is so important in non-cinematic Video making.
I'd go with the rolling shutter as the bigger issue.

The lens has long been able to be adapted even if you insist on f/2.8 and don't want a GM or such.

> Also, Handling!
Is certainly honestly very nice for photography.
Powerful and fairly configurable automatics, all the buttons and knobs required for easy operation of the main controls plus for a handful of extra things (fairly configurable, too), good connectivity, can be quite lightweight even for high-end bodies and lenses...

Surely, the video record button is placed pretty stupidly on most of these cameras, but one can even use this...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 23:12:28 No.2970572 Report

Quoted By: >>2970580

X-E2S body or X100T
FUCK
same price used

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 23:22:19 No.2970580 Report

Quoted By: >>2970582

>>2970572
Do you want interchangeable lenses? that should answer your problem

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 23:27:26 No.2970582 Report

Quoted By:

>>2970580
GOOD CALL I'M A DUMBASS

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 23:41:14 No.2970589 Report

Quoted By: >>2970594

>>2970530

>35-70 f2.8 equivalent
>12-35 f1.4

On m43? It any good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 23:54:39 No.2970594 Report

Quoted By: >>2970601 >>2970605

>>2970589
"24-70mm equivalent 2.8"
Not "24-70mm 2.8 equivalent"
Also AFAIK you dont apply cropfactor to the aperture number. You half the light, which is one stop Down.

>>2970543
I also thought about adapting, but it's always an additional 300-900 bucks and Even then the AF and IS aren't guaranteed to work as intended since it's Reverse engineered

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 00:06:53 No.2970601 Report

Quoted By: >>2970604

>>2970594

Applying crop factor to aperture isn't exactly right, but it is a quick shorthand often used to figure equivalent dof.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 00:14:41 No.2970604 Report

Quoted By: >>2970606

>>2970601
>equivalent dof
How stupid are you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 00:19:08 No.2970605 Report

Quoted By:

>>2970594
> I also thought about adapting, but it's always an additional 300-900 bucks and Even then the AF and IS aren't guaranteed to work as intended since it's Reverse engineered
You can read reviews and know if your AF/IS will work on the lens(es) you intend to buy.

It's increasingly "justwerks". Reverse engineering a thing as relatively simple as a control for 2-4 or so motors that did their thing on dozens of different cameras from one brand according to some internal standard ultimately isn't mankind's greatest achievement, even if it's definitely cool for photography.

They're definitely getting it right for most lenses now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 00:19:38 No.2970606 Report

Quoted By:

>>2970604

>http://petapixel.com/2014/03/28/concise-explanation-crop-factor-affects-focal-length-aperture/

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 00:45:45 No.2970618 Report

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>>2970517
Talked to my local camera seller and he recommended the D5200 over the D7000. I think that's the camera for me, he had some good points.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 00:58:47 No.2970626 Report

Quoted By: >>2970630

Hi guys,

What leica camera would you recommend for travel and general use?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 01:01:39 No.2970630 Report

Quoted By: >>2970701

>>2970626

a7ii w/ techart pro adapter.

Best digital m-mount camera on the market.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 01:05:57 No.2970632 Report

Quoted By:

What's with the memes that insult Sony cameras even though cameras like the a7r II are amazing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 02:05:01 No.2970651 Report

Quoted By: >>2970657

>>2970388
X-T1 is my planned replacement for my current body when I can afford it in like a year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 02:14:47 No.2970657 Report

Quoted By: >>2972664

>>2970651
>>2970388

Go X-T2, autofocus is terrible on the X-T1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 02:21:11 No.2970660 Report

Quoted By: >>2970664 >>2970666

Anyone have any good experience with super telephoto? I have the nikon 200-500 but have been staring at the 500mm f4

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 02:27:35 No.2970664 Report

Quoted By: >>2970680

>>2970660
What will you be shooting?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 02:29:04 No.2970666 Report

Quoted By: >>2970680

>>2970660
Do you have $10000? If yes, ok. If no, keep dreaming. The 200-500 is a great lens. I'm a fan of the AF-S 80-400 for when I don't need to make my penis as small.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 02:39:06 No.2970680 Report

Quoted By: >>2970706 >>2970717

>>2970664
Wildlife in Asia

>>2970666
Looking for feed back on the lens. Also 5k not 10

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 03:06:25 No.2970701 Report

Quoted By: >>2970727

>>2970630
Thank you. Will look into that

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 03:32:52 No.2970706 Report

Quoted By:

>>2970680
Olympus 300mm f/4 IS with E-M1 II

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 04:07:43 No.2970717 Report

Quoted By:

>>2970680
By the power of namefaggery, I summon /\MBUSH.

It's a Canikon super-telephoto prime. It's going to be big, heavy, built like a tank, performs at the highest specification, and has sublime optical properties. I don't know what else you'd want to know. You can get a 200/2 with a 2X, a 400/2.8 with a 1.4X or 2X, or you can get a 500/4 or 600/4. Or you can play with zooms.

Go rent one and see if you like it?

Anonguy

Anonguy Thu 24 Nov 2016 04:39:18 No.2970724 Report

Quoted By: >>2970743

test

Nice Pentax

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 04:57:02 No.2970727 Report

Quoted By: >>2970737

>>2970701

It was a kind of smartass answer, but it isn't really wrong.

The a7ii is not a Leica camera. But it has a much better sensor than any Leica on the market, and can autofocus m-mount lenses with that adapter, something the Leica can not do.

It is a pretty neat set up actually.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 05:24:02 No.2970737 Report

Quoted By:

>>2970727

>thinking people actually want "autofocus" leica lenses
>not mentioning that it "can autofocus" without heavy asterisks and annotation saying that it can't natively do so, and in fact requires a $400 adapter that absolutely destroys the a7's already abysmal battery life

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 05:34:40 No.2970743 Report

Quoted By:

>>2970724
Cheers. Yes the plan is to rent first. Wanted to see who has used them. Expensive glass is always a weird subject with people for some odd reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 05:56:57 No.2970753 Report

Quoted By: >>2970781 >>2970843 >>2970845 >>2970846

A friend asked me which ~50mm lens to buy for her A6000. Now I don't know whether Sony-Zeiss lenses are worth their price, also there are 4 lenses to choose from.
She has no intention to go full frame and shoots mostly portraits. I guess colors and bokeh > sharpness, which is why I tend to SEL55F18Z or SEL50F18B.

What is your overall opinion about these, including SEL-50F18F and SEL-50F14Z.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 06:42:22 No.2970764 Report

Quoted By: >>2970766

>just spent $6000 on glass

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 07:00:37 No.2970766 Report

Quoted By: >>2970767

>>2970764

>calling it glass

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 07:02:39 No.2970767 Report

Quoted By: >>2970786

>>2970766
>it's glass

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 07:27:56 No.2970770 Report

Quoted By: >>2970850

I'm thinking about getting into drone photography and I'm leaning toward a Phantom 3 Pro bundle, which costs $999. It has a hard case, extra battery, extra props and guards, lens filters, a 64gb micro SD and a cleaning kit. With Thanksgiving here should I go ahead and make a decision? Or should I wait until black Friday or even cyber Monday to pull the trigger?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 07:36:30 No.2970781 Report

Quoted By: >>2970828 >>2971096

>>2970753

The native APS-C 50mm is pretty solid. Tell her to get that.

If she intends to go FF, the Zeiss 55mm is the way to go.

Except the macro, everything else is for professional use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 07:42:38 No.2970786 Report

Quoted By:

>>2970767

>and metal and plastic

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 10:33:22 No.2970828 Report

Quoted By: >>2970854

>>2970781
Whats the difference between SEL50F18 and SEL50F18B? Is SEL-50F18F the macro lens that you mentioned?

Thanks!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 10:45:00 No.2970830 Report

Quoted By: >>2970855 >>2970860 >>2970869

>all these unsuspecting idiots getting lured in by sonyshills to buy a body with no lens
Meanwhile Pentax people get their system expanded to KAF4 mount by a simple firmware update, down to K-3 and K-50.
http://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/firmware-updates/pentax-k-50-firmware-v110-released.html
http://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/firmware-updates/pentax-k-3-firmware-v130-released.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 10:59:32 No.2970843 Report

Quoted By: >>2971096

>>2970753
Maybe the 60mm f/2.8 Sigma Art.

Center PDAF only, but sharp and cheap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 11:02:02 No.2970845 Report

Quoted By: >>2971096

>>2970753
Why is nobody asking what she means by 50mm? Does she want a portrait lens or does she want a 50mm equivalent lens?
Goddamn you sonyfags are the worst!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 11:02:15 No.2970846 Report

Quoted By: >>2971096

>>2970753
>>2970753
PS: Did your friend perhaps want a 50mm FF equivalent?

It just sounds slightly suspicious that someone who isn't looking for their own lens might want a 75mm equivalent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 11:06:05 No.2970850 Report

Quoted By:

>>2970770
Dunno if the Phantom has interchangeable lenses. There are a few drones that have these Days, consider them instead so you're not Stück with a medium-quality lens forever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 11:10:02 No.2970854 Report

Quoted By:

>>2970828

SEL50F18F is the full frame varient.

It was really shitty for awhile with terrible autofocus speeds, but it recently got a firmware update to increase the focus speed. Still loud as hell though, and while usable now it is certainly not a fast focusing lens. While quite a deal at $150 after the update, if you are on FF the Zeiss 55mm is a better choice if you can afford it.

If you are using an APS-C camera though, it is better to go with the APS-C version.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 11:11:45 No.2970855 Report

Quoted By: >>2970859

>>2970830
I've got the k-5 iis, is there an update coming for that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 11:15:10 No.2970859 Report

Quoted By:

>>2970855
Dunno. There was a petition going on PF for the KAF4 update to be extended for the K-50, K-3 and K-5 series, maybe it is still in the works.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 11:15:26 No.2970860 Report

Quoted By: >>2970865 >>2970866 >>2970867

>>2970830

Why so salty for Sony?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 11:19:23 No.2970865 Report

Quoted By: >>2970867 >>2970868

>>2970860
because many get trapped by the system and we are forced to help them out finding simple lenses in mundane focal lengths that are not covered by Sony. like a decent and affordable 50mm or 35mm that has both good AF and IQ.
Then these idiots get asspained when someone asks the same for their Canon/Nikon/Pentax/MFT and get a simple answer about a babby prime first party.
Sonyfags are an annoyance, that is all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 11:20:18 No.2970866 Report

Quoted By:

>>2970860
Cause every Sony Venture displays universal disdain for customers. From Consoles to Software to cameras and TVs

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 11:22:21 No.2970867 Report

Quoted By: >>2970871

>>2970860
>>2970865
Oh, and Canon/Nikon/Pentax guys can make simple discussions about gear and photography in general without claiming their chosen system is better than anything else. MFT can be included except for that EM1 fag.
You can't have a sonyfag without mentioning how his system is superior than anybody elses while not being able to post one single decent photo to uphold that stupid claim.
Like I said above, sonyfags are an annoyance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 11:22:31 No.2970868 Report

Quoted By: >>2970870 >>2970872

>>2970865

But e-mount has good and affordable APS-C 35 and 50mm in APS-C. There is a lack of good wide and good telephoto first party lenses though.

FF is another issue, certainly not affordable there for the average user. But then again, the average user does not buy FF.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 11:23:21 No.2970869 Report

Quoted By:

>>2970830
> Pentax expands the Pentax system with some Pentax KAF4 mount that removes an aperture control pin with electronic contacts and actually supports it on their Pentax bodies!
Uh, very amazing.

Well, I technologically welcome you to this century / millenium, after only 16 years.

Now you just need some modern lenses on your under 1/3 of "no lens" system.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 11:28:35 No.2970870 Report

Quoted By: >>2970888

>>2970868
You have some fundamental problem with the definition of good and affordable.
You are the one getting fucked by a company with subpar lenses way overpriced and you are still licking their ass. You are either too stupid to realize this or you don't even have a camera and just here to troll. I highly doubt Sony would pay viral ads on 4chan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 11:29:03 No.2970871 Report

Quoted By: >>2970878 >>2970882 >>2970897

>>2970867
Sony markets by promising a shitton on paper. Big numbers, neat gimmicks, etc. But in the real World their stuff is seriously lacking like ergonomics, good touchscreens, third Party Support, customer service, actually effective weather sealing, etc.
Then they get salty.
It's the exact same thing with Gaming too. The Service formerly know as Sony online Entertainment was also very similar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 11:29:04 No.2970872 Report

Quoted By: >>2970883

>>2970868
> FF is another issue, certainly not affordable there for the average user.
Of course they are affordable for average hobbyists. It's cheaper than shooting film as a hobby was back in the day.

Those ~$300-400 for the Minolta lens in 1985 are equivalent in buying power to today's ~$700-950, and you had to pay for film and prints on top of that.

It's just probably not a good expense for non-hobbyists, but that one should be obvious from the FF bodies alone already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 11:34:38 No.2970878 Report

Quoted By:

>>2970871
Also remember after the PSO hack an internal Mail was leaked saying they wont invest $10M in customer Data safety to avoid $1M in damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 11:39:14 No.2970882 Report

Quoted By: >>2970885 >>2970910

>>2970871
>But in the real World their stuff is seriously lacking
Nah. They work brilliantly in the real world, they just fail your desperate checking of a spec sheet for minor features some of them don't have.

Meanwhile all the main features -high-end lenses & very nice sensors hooked up to big buffers and IBIS and all that stuff that gives a very powerful imaging device- make shooting with them great in the real world.

They pushed specs on the high end of APS-C / FF cameras up and prices for most features that Canon/Nikon would otherwise have made more expensive down. It's very nice.

> third Party Support
Probably the best of all camera systems. We can even use third party lenses with AF / IS adapters, and people adapt lenses from even a century ago into a setup that is practical to shoot with.

Can't easily get better than that with regards to third parties until mount and optics can change shape.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 11:39:20 No.2970883 Report

Quoted By: >>2970884 >>2970897

>>2970872
Hobbyists won't buy lenses for $3000 a piece, that is for sure. At least except those who have too much money to burn but that is so thin a niche it is not a good idea to build a company upon.
Hobbyists go for budget and entry level lenses but still have a taste for good IQ, something Sony is lacking. Third party comes in here where you can get good IQ for 1/3rd price of first party. Again something Sony is lacking in.
It is just not a good idea to get into this system for a hobbyist but for this you have to know the facts other than the paper claims and charts. The bodies alone have nice features and performance but what good is it without a lens to give the IQ and performance. Too slow AF kills the numbers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 11:40:08 No.2970884 Report

Quoted By: >>2970887

>>2970883
Hobbyists will pay $7,000 for a camera body before they spend $3,000 for a lens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 11:43:46 No.2970885 Report

Quoted By: >>2970895 >>2970901

>>2970882
I tried to read your stuff but all I can Make out is "SLURPSLURPSLURPTASTYSEMENSLURPSLURP"
>adapting lenses is the same as third Party Support
First: No
Second: if you think that E-Mount has the best adaptability, MFT would like to have a word. In b4 "BUT MUH SENSOR SIZE!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 11:45:19 No.2970887 Report

Quoted By:

>>2970884
What makes you say such a stupid thing?
Are you suggesting the majority of hobbyist gear bought are high-end bodies with kit lenses? Are you sure it isn't the other way around with entry bodies, kit lenses and maybe a few better zoom or prime lenses with the ocerall costs around $1000?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 11:45:34 No.2970888 Report

Quoted By: >>2970894

>>2970870
> subpar lenses
Some zooms are pretty shit and yet expensive for no reason.

But the primes for the E-mount are very often simply the industry's best. And they came out quite rapidly, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 11:47:03 No.2970890 Report

Quoted By: >>2971031

You know what I'd like to see: a normal sized sensor with only 4k pixels. It would be an amazing Video camera and an acceptable snapshit camera.
I'd Even take an MFT mount for that.
Is downsampling from 6k to 4k really sharper than having less pixels in the first place? Plus having less pixels comes with better low-light perfomance

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 11:48:21 No.2970894 Report

Quoted By: >>2970903

>>2970888
>But the primes for the E-mount are very often simply the industry's best.
Yes, if you mean massive purple fringing by "industry's best". Best fringing effect for sure.
And yet the screwdrive 35mm from Nikon, the cheapest plastickyest 35mm from Pentax and the hunter master 50/1.8 non-STM from Canon still give better IQ for less than half the cost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 11:48:52 No.2970895 Report

Quoted By: >>2970899

>>2970885
> adapting lenses is the same as third Party Support
The camera system supports third parties?

If you mean support BY third parties, I think around 25 companies make native lenses for the system now. - including pretty much all of the usual suspects for third party lenses. Like 10 make flash units. Certainly 100+ make random accessories.

What else do you want?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 11:52:06 No.2970897 Report

Quoted By: >>2970910

>>2970871
>ergo
Their ergonomics are class leading, show a mirrorless that does it better, big hand grip, triple dials, 9 custom buttons, battery grip available, tilting screen in both directions.

>good touchscreens
The touchscreen on the a6500 is great and it's the first sony have done.

>3rd party support
Sigma, voigtlander, tokina, zeiss, metz, godox, samyang, slr magic, more video shit than any other brand, venus optics, etc. It has more 3rd party support than anyone else and more flexibility with full af adapters now available for canon, nikon and leica mount lenses.

>customer service
It's perfect in europe and asia.

>effective weather sealing
Look at lens rentals breakdowns, new sony lenses have exceptional sealing, they haven't brought out a rugged body yet (they haven't even brought out their high end body yet, the a7rii is prosumer based) expect better sealing than anything else on the market on the a9.

>>2970883
>slow af
A6500 has the fastest, accurate af of all ilc cameras.

>I'm poor
Give a fuck? Hobbyist photography with ilc cameras is dead.
If you must be poor, the a7ii and sigma mc11 is still cheaper than any ff canon body, and because af speed is linked to cpu performance on sony bodies, if you upgrade the body all your lenses will focus faster. The a6500 and mc11 is faster than any rebel and misses focus exponentially less, because ospdaf is goat for accuracy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 11:52:49 No.2970899 Report

Quoted By: >>2970909

>>2970895
Allmost all E-Mount lenses are also available for MFT plus there are more companies producing MFT than E-Mount Cameras.
Having to use an Adapter nornally means that The Support does NOT exist inherently to the system. That's why the Adapter exists.
It's like saying that PS2 Port Supports USB-keyboards because an Adapter exists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 11:53:22 No.2970901 Report

Quoted By:

>>2970885
>Second: if you think that E-Mount has the best adaptability, MFT would like to have a word.

MFT has autofocus adapters for Canon, Nikon, Minolta/Sony, and M-mount?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 11:53:30 No.2970903 Report

Quoted By: >>2970904

>>2970894
> And yet the screwdrive 35mm from Nikon, the cheapest plastickyest 35mm from Pentax and the hunter master 50/1.8 non-STM from Canon still give better IQ for less than half the cost.
Eh, they're not even close to the 55mm F1.8 or 35mm F1.4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 11:54:18 No.2970904 Report

Quoted By: >>2970907 >>2970908 >>2970914

>>2970903
But those don't cost $100 either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 11:57:02 No.2970907 Report

Quoted By: >>2970911

>>2970904

Sony has a 50mm for $150 that has better image quality. But it needs a firmware update and only works well on pdaf bodies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 11:57:38 No.2970908 Report

Quoted By: >>2970911 >>2970915

>>2970904
If you want to go out and buy a big tv for the lounge, are you bothered that there's smaller, shit tvs for a quarter of the price?

I mean, if you want a big tv, but all you can afford is the shitty little one, do you whinge and complain that the big one is too expensive?

I didn't think people expressed jealousy so readily.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 11:58:08 No.2970909 Report

Quoted By:

>>2970899
> Allmost all E-Mount lenses are also available for MFT
Many, but a lot are also not at this point.

> plus there are more companies producing MFT than E-Mount Cameras
Maybe? Not so sure.

In camera stores -even online- you'll usually find less recent MFT lenses than E-mount ones already.

> Having to use an Adapter nornally means that The Support does NOT exist inherently to the system.
"Third party support" can mean both support for and by third parties.

It arguably has both, but it's obviously noteworthy that support FOR third parties is great.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 12:00:22 No.2970910 Report

Quoted By:

>>2970882
>>2970897

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 12:01:18 No.2970911 Report

Quoted By: >>2970916

>>2970907
You are good in moving the goal posts, friend. That 50mm you are talking about has the most massive fringing not even cheap shitty Porst lenses did in the 80s. And a massively slow and inaccurate AF. Goal posts back in their original place, your move fagster.

>>2970908
Not even close for a metaphor. And I don't watch TV.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 12:03:28 No.2970914 Report

Quoted By: >>2970917

>>2970904
Uh, no, they obviously don't cost $100.

The claim was "simply the industry's best" on that end, you'd not expect that to be $100.

And while *those* have a price that might be steep for some unemployed people on /p/, they're actually fortunately still within reach of hobbyists and "normal" non-star photographers that are just doing a job.

Besides you don't get "suddenly surprised" that good FF lenses cost $700-1500 - or even $2k+ for some individual models. You already knew that if you weren't retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 12:05:02 No.2970915 Report

Quoted By: >>2970921

>>2970908
It would be more accurate going out buying a medium size TV and finding someone offering a bigger one for the price I wanted to spend. Then some whiny little creep comes to me whining the TV I got is shit and I could get a much better one although it costs more than twice and is smaller than I wanted in the first place. Not to mention doing a little research would reveal the electronics and the panel was made by the same company on the same fab line.
Now this is more accurate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 12:08:02 No.2970916 Report

Quoted By: >>2970918

>>2970911
>That 50mm you are talking about has the most massive fringing

You are thinking of something else. the SEL50F18F does not have fringing. Some minor CA and distortion wide open, however.

>And a massively slow and inaccurate AF.

Which was fixed in a lens firmware update.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 12:09:23 No.2970917 Report

Quoted By: >>2970944

>>2970914
There are better prces, especially used, but still make a point:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/743117-USA/Pentax_21987_35mm_DA_L_F2_4.html
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/864663-REG/Pentax_smc_DA_50mm_f_1_8.html
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1143786-REG/canon_0570c002_ef_50mm_f_1_8_stm.html

Search more on ebay and see for yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 12:11:22 No.2970918 Report

Quoted By:

>>2970916
That fringing is muted on siple screens like laptop and cheap TN panel. It comes out massive in better screens even better quality TN panels and IPS panels, it is so massive in print the printing companies price extra for the magenta usage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 12:20:54 No.2970921 Report

Quoted By: >>2970922 >>2970923

>>2970915
>made by the same company
Iphones are made by foxconn, who also make the cheapest phones in the asia market, are they comparable products?

But again, this comes down to you whining about price, sonys lenses have proven solidly for the last couple of years they outperform every other oem option. And their bodies offer performance and features no other brand can match.

If you want the best products, you pay the biggest prices. You're not arguing that sony products should be cheaper to be competitive, you're arguing they should be cheaper AND worse to be competitive.

unfortunately sonys sales figures don't agree.

Is it stressful being as poor as you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 12:26:00 No.2970922 Report

Quoted By: >>2970923 >>2970926

>>2970921
>wanting to get the most for the buck makes me a poor
I bet spending all your money on overpriced shiny consumer shit makes you think you are rich. Meanwhile I also have my own car, house with garden, holiday resort and spare cash to go out every weekend. Yes, I am poor. :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 12:27:05 No.2970923 Report

Quoted By: >>2970926

>>2970921
>>2970922
Ooh, I forgot, I also fund my own university education, no loan or anything like. Stay delusional, fag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 12:33:58 No.2970926 Report

Quoted By: >>2970927 >>2970928

>>2970922
>getting the most for your buck

>implying you are after the best product money can buy

Sony wins again.

>yes i am poor
The sony a7 is the best value ff body on the market, hands down.

Sony wins again

>>2970923
>university not college
>not abusing student loans that never get paid back and can never have any effect on your credit.

Pretty dumb bud, coulda saved 27k minimum.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 12:39:59 No.2970927 Report

Quoted By:

>>2970926
>10 shekels has been added to your account

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 12:40:46 No.2970928 Report

Quoted By: >>2970941

>>2970926

>actually ever having to pay tuition

Scholarships are everywhere. There is no reason he should be paying anything.

I am literally getting paid to get my PhD.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 13:23:12 No.2970941 Report

Quoted By: >>2971265

>>2970928
Try to find free education over material sciences and nanotechnology.
>implying you can find free experience time on various science and laboratory tech not to mention work experience without an institute backing you
>implying anyone would choose you with a free education confirmation email over a someone with a diploma from a renowned education institute.
>implying anything except STEM education matters in the near and far future

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 13:27:25 No.2970944 Report

Quoted By: >>2970948

>>2970917
Completely different lenses? Those have no claim to being the "industry's best" in any way.

Those are more like the Sigma 19 and 30mm or Sony 35mm f/1.8 for APS-C E-mount... or the Neewer (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/very_cheap_option/32703875251.html) but more expensive and with AF.

That said, obviously you can get most of these cheap lenses for the APS-C E-mount, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 13:40:17 No.2970948 Report

Quoted By: >>2970952 >>2970953

>>2970944
>unironically bringing up Sigma
Known for the worst quality control in the main third party brands with bad AF crapping out repeatedly after a few months or just plain missing AF and hunting to no end half the time.
Even the Art series IQ is crap with sharp focus plane and vomit inducing falloff and sharp bokeh.
Still no good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 14:02:12 No.2970952 Report

Quoted By: >>2970954

>>2970948
>Known for the worst quality control in the main third party brands with bad AF crapping out repeatedly after a few months or just plain missing AF and hunting to no end half the time.
Maybe I am just damn lucky with the Sigmas? Heh.

And though some other lenses are better with their A,F it's still faster and more reliable to use them on an A6000 than simply working with a K-50 or Rebel T5i with the lenses you listed.

> Even the Art series IQ is crap
Even on the not particularly fantastic but inexpensive E-mount f/2.8's, it's still better than on the Pentax lenses and about equal to the 50mm Canon STM.

The IQ on the not yet mentioned 60mm Sigma Art f/2.8 is noticeably better than on the 50mm Canon, too.

> with sharp focus plane and vomit inducing falloff and sharp bokeh.
Now you're complaining about a lens being good. A sharp focus plane / bokeh and normal fall-off is desirable and a lens feature.

If you want chromeabs blur bokeh that often melts into your subjecs, odd curved focal planes with weird fall-off, you can get that for $20: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/muh_bokeh/32675271032.html

Or on many a older lens with just a few simple glass elements. Which you then best adopt to a Sony, heh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 14:08:03 No.2970953 Report

Quoted By:

>>2970948
>Known for the worst quality control in the main third party brands with bad AF crapping out repeatedly after a few months or just plain missing AF and hunting to no end half the time.
Maybe I am just damn lucky with the Sigmas?

Sure, some other lenses are better with their AF. But it's still faster and more reliable to use these on an A6000 than simply working with a K-50 or Rebel T5i with the lenses you listed.

> Even the Art series IQ is crap
Again still better than on the Pentax lenses and about equal to the 50mm Canon STM.

The IQ on the not yet mentioned 60mm Sigma Art f/2.8 is noticeably better than on the 50mm Canon - in case you want to beat that one.

> with sharp focus plane and vomit inducing falloff and sharp bokeh.
Now you're complaining about a lens being good. A sharp focus plane / bokeh and normal fall-off is desirable and a lens feature.

If you want chromabs blur bokeh that often melts into your subjecs and odd curved focal planes with weird fall-off, you can get that for $20: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/muh_bokeh/32675271032.html

Also exists on many a older lens with just a few simple glass elements - because that was common when did not design and manufacture them with computers.

Those then also are best adopted to a MILC -probably a Sony. Heh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 14:08:28 No.2970954 Report

Quoted By:

>>2970952
No matter how sharp a lens is when the falloff just plain irritating. Completely destroys an image. You would know if you had taken any in your life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 14:31:21 No.2970961 Report

Quoted By: >>2970964 >>2970973

What do you guys do for filters?

My biggest filter thread is 82mm on a Tokina 11-20.

Do I get 82mm filters and step down rings, or do I get square filters?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 14:35:16 No.2970964 Report

Quoted By: >>2970972

>>2970961
Square filters are the way to go on such a wide angle. Lee and Cokin should have an extra wide holder for the necessary filter size.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 14:53:04 No.2970972 Report

Quoted By: >>2970977 >>2970997

>>2970964
What filters would you recommend?

I was thinking a 2 stop graduated, 2 stop ND and a polarizer

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 14:54:20 No.2970973 Report

Quoted By:

>>2970961
Square filters will be easier if you have a good holder or need more than 2-3 filters

Step-down rings will be cheaper for just 2-3 filters.

I mostly don't need filters, so I went with the cheap option. Round, one CPL and one ND, step-up rings and done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 14:59:23 No.2970977 Report

Quoted By:

>>2970972
I would go for a 3 stop ND with the 2 stop grad, possibly adding the 2 stop ND as extra for when more stops are needed.
Also consider getting a reverse grad filter too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 15:18:56 No.2970988 Report

Quoted By: >>2970997

Regarding filters:

Lets say I'm getting Lee filters, do I need the SW150 holder for the Tokina 11-20? Or is the 100mm sufficient

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 15:31:18 No.2970997 Report

Quoted By:

>>2970972
I'd suggest a 2 stop hard and 2 stop soft grad, then a normal 2, 3 or 6 ND. If you only want to buy one grad I'd go for the 2 stop soft, you'll find yourself needing it more than the hard in most cases. And then the CPL.

>>2970988
I believe the 100mm is fine for your lens as long as you get the wide angle 82mm adapter ring. Don't quote me on that though, you'll have to do your own research.

Quality filters like LEE or Nisi are damn expensive, so try and buy used if you can't afford new.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 15:41:09 No.2971003 Report

Quoted By: >>2971007

Am I wrong for buying a jupiter 8 because I find it very sexy?
Gonna put it on my a6300 and jerk off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 15:43:41 No.2971007 Report

Quoted By: >>2971010

>>2971003
One of the better reasons to buy a lens.

Just take some photos with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 15:51:36 No.2971010 Report

Quoted By: >>2971011

>>2971007
Oh I'll do that for sure, seems like a very nice lens. But I might end up taking photos of it on the camera more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 15:53:31 No.2971011 Report

Quoted By:

>>2971010
That would be gay. Why would you invest in a camera system when you only take photos OF it with your phone?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 17:01:32 No.2971030 Report

Quoted By:

So I'm thinking of getting the a6000 with the black friday deal but do you guys think I should get the bundled lens or look for something else? I don't really want to spend more than $600 for the body and lens in total

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 17:04:47 No.2971031 Report

Quoted By: >>2971094

>>2970890
I found this post buried among a stupid brand argument. May I recommend a revival?
Such a camera would be seriously low-budget, i guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:25:15 No.2971094 Report

Quoted By: >>2971097

>>2971031
Just buy an A7s and be done with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:27:34 No.2971096 Report

Quoted By:

>>2970845
>>2970846
85mm equivalent. In a further discussion, we ended up choosing the SEL50F18B

Thanks, also >>2970843 >>2970781

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:27:54 No.2971097 Report

Quoted By:

>>2971094
>someone proposes a minimalist, budget, super sharp 4k, videofocussed camera
>this guy recommends the A7
Sony shills, everyone!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:28:00 No.2971098 Report

Quoted By: >>2971099 >>2971100

>>2971090
I need an answer

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:30:13 No.2971099 Report

Quoted By:

>>2971098
It barely worth $50 with the lens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Nov 2016 19:30:16 No.2971100 Report

Quoted By:

>>2971098
maybe you can flip the lens for around 50 bucks.

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Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 00:33:57 No.2971244 Report

Quoted By: >>2971246 >>2971251 >>2971415 >>2971440

>>2970386
I need some help finding a camera for street interviews and hobby journalistic work. My budget is 600 dollars what kind of stuff do I need? The audio quality is important

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 00:41:31 No.2971246 Report

Quoted By:

>>2971244
That's a small budget.

Maybe a Panasonic G7?

Try a Takstar microphone from Aliexpress or elsewhere in China in the flash hotshoe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 00:51:41 No.2971251 Report

Quoted By:

>>2971244
theres already a thread for that, you fucking taintwhistle

>>2971241

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Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 00:57:40 No.2971256 Report

Quoted By: >>2971259 >>2971261 >>2971263

You seen that Sony a99ii iso shit?

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0ByPtaPMDQgc1ZFZFTmt5R0pvUmc

Looks just like film!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 01:02:39 No.2971259 Report

Quoted By:

>>2971256
>Looks just like film!
Is this an argument now?
Is this where we ended up?
Film is outdated technology. Get over it!
Total fucking mania.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 01:03:56 No.2971261 Report

Quoted By:

>>2971256
Just like it!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 01:06:11 No.2971263 Report

Quoted By:

>>2971256
>We have perfected the formula so that our shit now tastes like slightly older shit that snooty twats call "aged"!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 01:11:55 No.2971265 Report

Quoted By:

>>2970941

>implying i was talking about shit free schools and not well known institutions

Keep reaching.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 01:28:07 No.2971278 Report

Quoted By: >>2971283 >>2971284

Sony A6300 vs Fuji X-T1 anyone?

I can get them for the same price in Britbongland

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 01:45:23 No.2971283 Report

Quoted By: >>2971289

>>2971278
Fuji
It's actually be controllable

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 01:53:58 No.2971284 Report

Quoted By: >>2971289 >>2971290 >>2972127

>>2971278

Considerably faster autofocus and a better sensor on the a6300 are the biggest. Some other minor things like longer battery life and higher burst are better on the a6300 too.

The Fuji kit lens is a better lens, though not by much. Menus on the Fuji are a little easier to a beginner too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 02:21:06 No.2971289 Report

Quoted By:

>>2971283
>>2971284

Thank you guys! I read a lot about the control issue so will keep that in mind, a touch screen would have made a winner here ...

I'm leaning towards the A6300, AF and sensor seem to be a big game changer

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 02:21:09 No.2971290 Report

Quoted By: >>2971292

>>2971284
Since when did people stop shilling for the XF 18-55, and start for the turdtastic SEL1650? Is it some sort of stockholm syndrome Sony users are experiencing because they can't afford any lenses now that they've spent all their money buying or upgrading their bodies to the latest and greatest?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 02:23:03 No.2971292 Report

Quoted By:

>>2971290

Did you read the same post as me?

He didn't shill the 1650, he said they both aren't good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 02:40:02 No.2971300 Report

Quoted By: >>2971301 >>2971302 >>2971303

Do I get a 5d mk iv or a a7s ii?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 02:46:51 No.2971301 Report

Quoted By:

>>2971300
>no dynamic range
vs
>dynamic range
this is what sony fags will say

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 02:46:52 No.2971302 Report

Quoted By: >>2971307

>>2971300

They are completely different cameras.

What do you intend to use them for?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 02:47:55 No.2971303 Report

Quoted By: >>2971307

>>2971300
They're very different cameras.

The 5D IV is just a higher end general purpose do-it all type of camera - it's more like an A7R II, maybe a little like a (not FF) A6500.

The A7S II is basically entirely a low light expert camera. Doesn't have a high resolution sensor or even PDAF, but it's basically the best camera out there right now for low light situations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 03:00:31 No.2971307 Report

Quoted By: >>2971342

>>2971302
I sold all my lenses to go full frame, and my default has been the mk iv. I shoot both stills and video, and while I care about 1080p@60fps more than 4k having cropped/mjpeg 4k kind of bothers me, so that on the a7r ii (I did not mean a7s my bad) is nice. I also travel a lot so I'm drawn to mirrorless.

I'm mostly torn because I know a lot more about the 5d mk iv because I've been planning on buying it for months, but have to wait until I am back in the US to purchase it. As a result I know a lot more about the 5d mk iv than the a7r ii so I don't know its downsides in comparison

>>2971303
I did mean the a7r ii, my bad. r and s are next to each other on my keyboard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 03:28:21 No.2971342 Report

Quoted By: >>2971348

>>2971307
> I did mean the a7r ii
I'd prefer the A7R II myself, but IDK about you.

What's your camera usage going to be like?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 03:33:29 No.2971348 Report

Quoted By: >>2971360

>>2971342
Amateur who travels a *lot*, I take both video and stills but care slightly more about stills.

Since I'm an amateur whichever I get will almost certainly be my only body until it breaks or it is just stupidly obsoleted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 03:38:33 No.2971356 Report

Quoted By:

What's the nicest and most versatile lens I can buy for a canon 60d?

I'm hoping to see some deals tomorrow but either way I want an upgrade from the kit lens and nifty fifty.

Ideally something that'll be great for portraits and weddings. Video would be a plus too.

I'm not familiar with the options and quality of L lenses, help me out pee

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 03:40:15 No.2971360 Report

Quoted By: >>2971373

>>2971348
> Amateur who travels a *lot*
And the A6500 or A7 II or D750 wouldn't do the job for half the price and hence perhaps allow for one-two better lenses...?

> I take both video and stills but care slightly more about stills.
Probably A7R II then.

Lighter weight, but also silent shutter more focusing aids, easier to work with video profiles, IBIS (makes not too few smaller lenses without stabilizer more viable) and stuff like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 03:47:51 No.2971373 Report

Quoted By:

>>2971360
>And the A6500 or A7 II or D750 wouldn't do the job for half the price and hence perhaps allow for one-two better lenses...?
I understand what you're getting at but it's not a concern for me. I can always get more lenses but I'd have trouble justifying a second body.

>Probably A7R II then.
Thanks for your input

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Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 04:02:26 No.2971400 Report

Quoted By: >>2971412

>thread bursts into brandfaggotry over Sony
>thread dies down
>someone tries to revitalize some discussion outside of brandfaggotry
>thread stays dead
>"Sony"
>thread burns up again

It's the eternal cycle

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 04:11:07 No.2971412 Report

Quoted By: >>2971413

>>2971400
It's just like film!

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Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 04:15:30 No.2971413 Report

Quoted By:

>>2971412

If we are talking film, Minolta is the way to go.

Only Minolta bodies will work with superior Sony lenses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 04:22:19 No.2971415 Report

Quoted By:

>>2971244
Any system you get at that level is probably going to involve sticking a cheap rode mic to the top of your camera and plugging it into a mini jack input.

The downside is that this is not quality audio. Tbh no singler operator system is going to compare to having a sound recordist, even if all you have is a zoom recorder.

The upside is that all your options are equally shit, so whatever you choose will be about as good as anything else.

I've considered slapping a zoom H2n recorder on top of my GH4 but it's inelegant to say the least.

When the camera operator is also trying to fiddle with sound settings while shooting fluid, spontaneous situations, everything suffers. What you'll wind up with is sound slightly better than most youtube videos, until you get into a bit of wind or an environment with a lot of background noise (say, an urban street). Then your audio will fall to shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 04:51:19 No.2971437 Report

Quoted By: >>2971462 >>2971476

Is there any appeal to the Canon Mirrorless system?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 04:54:16 No.2971440 Report

Quoted By:

>>2971244
What kind of interviews? If it's the kind that you're on screen at all times, get an interview mic and an adapter for your phone. It'll look more professional than any of the options here and probably even sound better in most cases.

You'll also need a monopod. Get one from China.

Spend the rest in the camera.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 05:13:08 No.2971462 Report

Quoted By: >>2971493

>>2971437
I think it had one or two inexpensive decent performance lenses?

But overall, not really.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 05:18:40 No.2971476 Report

Quoted By: >>2971493

>>2971437

The 20mm pancake is nice.

The other two (lol) lenses are mediocre.

Doesn't really compare to Sony or even Fuji to be honest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 05:28:16 No.2971493 Report

Quoted By: >>2971515

>>2971462
>>2971476
does magiclantern work on the mirrorless cameras?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 05:51:21 No.2971515 Report

Quoted By:

>>2971493

I saw some in development shots of it on the m3, so I assume it is out now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 06:29:56 No.2971531 Report

Quoted By: >>2971665 >>2971687

I have a bunch of old Nikkor AI and Olympus OM lenses.
Which of them are preferable to adapt to the M43 system with an adapter or focal reducer?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 11:44:48 No.2971665 Report

Quoted By: >>2971686

>>2971531
Brand is mostly moot, but for MFT it's smart to get an adapter with a detachable foot. Oubo has a bunch of them for every mount (except for FD for some retarded and infuriating reason). the standfoot helps with frontheavy setups, because your MFT body is light and old lenses are heavy.
Focal reducer: your choice. what lense do you want to use for what? I use a standard 50mm 1.8 as a long portrait/telephoto. with a focalreducer MFT can use 35mm-28mm as standard lenses, but there are few of those that are really fast, so I dont even try.
Example
I got a few lenses from my dad, one of them a tokina 28mm 2.8. It's built like a tank and has a really nice feel to it. as a 28mm 2.8 it's useless. with a focal reducer it would be a 20mm 2.0. not astonishing, compared to my faster, sharper, autofocussing 25mm 1,7

So ask yourself: what would use would you have for which lenses either with our without focal reducer?
For MFT, vintage lenses are mostly a source of cheap, fast, long glass. For ASPC or FF mirrorless system they can be an actual full-range replacement.
Also, there are 50mm and 35mm 1,7 fully manual lenses for native MFT for like 80 bucks. They use very old and simple designs and sometimes have better IQ than some vintage lenses. This market of "modern full-manual" looks interesting to me. Sadly, there is nothing for the €100-300 gap until you hit Voigtlander territory.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 12:11:38 No.2971675 Report

Quoted By: >>2971679 >>2971680 >>2971681 >>2971684

this is 99$

http://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=117&cp_id=11701&cs_id=1170101&p_id=12154&seq=1&format=2

carbon fiber tripod.

Would this be a better purchase than a dic mic carbon fiber tripod?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 12:32:39 No.2971679 Report

Quoted By: >>2971681 >>2971684

>>2971675
Not sure. Never had that one. But I notice on the spec sheet that it:
- Doesn't have a ball head included whereas the Dic&Mic has a pretty good one (doesn't feel luxurious - but it's honestly working quite well so far).
- Doesn't seem to have spilked feet included.
- Is heavy. Heavier headless than the Dic&Mic *with its head*, which is ~1/3 of the total weight of a Dic&Mic.

I'd stick with a Dic&Mic E302C for portability reasons if you can, or the P303C or something like it if the E302C is too small for you when extended.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 12:34:42 No.2971680 Report

Quoted By: >>2971683 >>2971737

>>2971675
>Would this be a better purchase than a dic mic carbon fiber tripod?
Well they are both cheap chinkshit, so take your pic.

dic n mic is a meme brand shilled by one faggot in every gear thread. Here's some sound advice, don't cheap out on tripods, and stick to well known and trusted brands.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 12:35:51 No.2971681 Report

Quoted By: >>2971689

>>2971675
>>2971679
Oh look, the dic n mic shill showed up right on queue

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 12:46:14 No.2971683 Report

Quoted By: >>2971696

>>2971680
> Here's some ignorant brand whoring based mixed with racism, I never had a hands-on with ANY of the tripods discussed.
FTFY

> don't cheap out on tripods, and stick to well known and trusted brands.
Riiight, only use Linhoff and Gitzo.

Because you can read on the internet that two shitty cheap Chinese tripods (not this one, but who cares) and three shitty cheap Manfrottos failed, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 12:47:54 No.2971684 Report

Quoted By: >>2971691

>>2971675
>>2971679

I got the dic mic, it was fucking awful, i very quickly reverted to my manfrotto compact tripod that cost half as much until i got a carbon fibre giottos which hardly cost more when on sale.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 12:54:25 No.2971686 Report

Quoted By: >>2972150

>>2971665
>Brand is mostly moot, but for MFT it's smart to get an adapter with a detachable foot.

What is a detachable foot? Is it the same as a tripod mount?

>what lense do you want to use for what?

I plan to use it on a standard 50mm f1.4 AI Nikkor or a 50mm f1.4 OM Olympus lens.

>Also, there are 50mm and 35mm 1,7 fully manual lenses for native MFT for like 80 bucks.

Are these the CCTV lenses made in China?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 12:54:31 No.2971687 Report

Quoted By:

>>2971531
What I've learned with MFT is that the results can be completely unpredictable. Edge performance and CAs are often the issue when adapted and they vary wildly from lens to lens. The only way to know for sure is to try them. Also never shoot wide open.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 13:08:00 No.2971689 Report

Quoted By: >>2971694 >>2971696

>>2971681
i didnt know it was a shill. i remember being recommended dic and mic ages ago but since today is black friday i saw this one which looks great. Wanted to know how it compared to other similarly priced carbon fiber tripods.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 13:11:00 No.2971691 Report

Quoted By:

>>2971684
> I got the dic mic, it was fucking awful
I don't believe you for shit. It's a very decent tripod.

> got a carbon fibre giottos which hardly cost more when on sale
"Wait until equal Giottos are on sale and cost not much more" isn't exactly a plan, and the (arguably few) models I saw in person never impressed me.

But hey, feel free to amuse me with which one you would go for right now.

I can see a $300 device with ~4kg load rating and no spiked feet that is also heavier, or a $500 ~6kg load rating one, both 5 section (less sections are usually just better). Are these the supposed alternative?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 13:18:39 No.2971694 Report

Quoted By:

>>2971689
Figures he just included you with me?

/p/ has a bunch of autists who convinced themselves that things they didn't and wouldn't buy for emotional reasons ( I dislike China / Sony / Canon / Fuji / ...) must be a shill.

> i saw this one which looks great
I've certainly seen worse. But do you really want to get a carbon tripod to have 2kg weight on just the legs already...?

You can get 6-12kg loads on tripod legs closer to 1kg already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 13:21:46 No.2971696 Report

Quoted By: >>2971698 >>2971717

>>2971683
>>2971683
>Here's some ignorant brand whoring based mixed with racism
Do you realise where you are? Fuck off back to your reddirt safespace.

>Riiight, only use Linhoff and Gitzo.
How fucking autistic are you? Did I suggest the most expensive brands out there? No, I suggested WELL KNOWN and TRUSTED brands.

There's good reason to not cheap out on chinkshit, because when it breaks in a years time (and it will break), you've not only wasted $100+ on a shit tripod, but you've also potentially broken any camera gear being used in the process.

>>2971689
The general guide on buying a tripod is to spend the most you can comfortably afford. People spend thousand of dollars on a camera and lenses, yet cheap out the one thing holding that gear high above solid ground...

So give us a budget and I'm sure we can find you something good

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 13:24:03 No.2971698 Report

Quoted By: >>2971709

>>2971696
under 120$

Hoping to find a black friday deal. Is there a real advantage to carbon fiber over aluminum?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 13:43:30 No.2971709 Report

Quoted By: >>2972115

>>2971698
>120$
USD?

>Is there a real advantage to carbon fiber over aluminum?
Carbon is lighter, erosion resistant and handles hot/cold situations far better

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 14:09:18 No.2971717 Report

Quoted By:

>>2971696
>mixed with racism
this isn't tumblr, fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 14:29:40 No.2971733 Report

Quoted By: >>2971764

recently came across a used Nikon D90 with lens for 650 is it worth getting? I'm tied between that or buying a brand new Fujifilm XE2s for 800 with lens as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 14:35:24 No.2971737 Report

Quoted By:

>>2971680
It is "shilled" because it has a good price/performance ratio, and most people on /p/ are poorfags looking for the alternative. Pretty logical.

Tripods aren't exactly rocket science either, and even in the event that you'd end up with a lemon copy, you could buy 3 of those for the price of one similar tier benro. I'd say the odds are on your side.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 15:02:51 No.2971764 Report

Quoted By: >>2971868

>>2971733
That's D7100 money. A D90 is like $300.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 15:17:54 No.2971778 Report

Quoted By:

>>2970412
If you're interested in video I'd recomend a Lumix G7 + used 14-42 kit lens.
If you buy them separately you can find deals within your budget.
Great for low-light and for video even if it's m43, and you can adapt cheap c-mount lenses to it which can be great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 16:01:47 No.2971797 Report

Quoted By: >>2971800 >>2971802

>>2970386
Am I stupid for wanting to shoot landscapes with a 50mm lens? It's for a Pentax K-S2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 16:11:46 No.2971800 Report

Quoted By: >>2971864

>>2971797
Nah not really. Whenever people think landscapes, they think ultra wide angles are a must so they can fit everything in frame. What they don't realise is that not everything needs to be shown to the viewer for them to get a feel for the scene.

50mm on crop will give around an 80mm equivalent on FF, which is great for intimate landscapes and shit off in the distance like mountains. I'd suggest getting a 35mm as well though, as it will give you a 50mm equivalent. If you only want to buy one lens at the moment, go with the 35mm for a little more versatility.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 16:12:14 No.2971802 Report

Quoted By: >>2971864

>>2971797
Not really, depends on the angle you want. I would throw in a 35mm to because wider option, light and cheap.
But 50mm is still good for panoramas.

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Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 16:31:30 No.2971811 Report

Quoted By: >>2971930

Hi /p/,

Total newb who impulse bought a DSLR last night. Wanted to get into amateur photography/videography, my friends are into it, I've made shitty short films before, etc.

I bought pic related: Canon EOS Rebel T5. Comes with two lenses, the stock EF-S 18-55mm IS II, as well as EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 III. All refurbished.

Canon had a black Friday sale, got all the above for ~$280. Claims a $340 savings.

Two questions: did I get a good deal on a decent entry level camera? Second, what resources do you recommend for beginners? I've been looking through some YouTube videos. What's the /p/ megasource for resources?

Thanks everyone. Here's the deal if still in stock (only red in Stock when I ordered). https://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/eos-rebel-t5-red-ef-s-18-55mm-is-ii-lens-kit-ef-75-300mm-f-4-56-iii-refurbished

Canon has a lot of other black Friday deals on more expensive gear.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 17:08:07 No.2971845 Report

Quoted By:

any good suggestion for a good astro photog telescope that won't cost more than $1000 CAD?
I want to get photos of deep sky objects like orion/seven sisters, possibly andromeda if I can, and better shots of the moon etc.
I'm hoping there's a good black friday deal on some stuff that I can get and hopefully get started on this. I shoot with a 70d

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 17:25:00 No.2971853 Report

Quoted By: >>2971858 >>2972066

Have a Pentax k100d It was with me for a looong time, but lately with longer exposures I can see lots of bad pixels flaring up, what would be a proper upgrade for casual photography, just dont jump straight to K1 (I would still like to have pentax)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 17:33:05 No.2971858 Report

Quoted By:

>>2971853
Aye the K100d was my first dslr, some of my best photography memories were with that thing, but from there I upgraded to the K-5 iis which I use currently. If you don't want to spend heaps and don't mind buying used, you can pick up a k-5 ii/ K-5 iis/ K-3 real cheap nowadays.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 17:42:39 No.2971864 Report

Quoted By: >>2971936

>>2971800
>>2971802
Thank you guys. I'm trying to start doing nigth photography and I'm struggling with the 18-50mm lens.
How big of a difference is there between the 35mm 2.4 and the 50mm 1.4? For low light photography I mean.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 17:59:43 No.2971868 Report

Quoted By:

>>2971764
Gotcha I think it's because the D90 I saw has different lens than the stock lens it came with originally

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Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 18:49:38 No.2971882 Report

Quoted By: >>2971883

so i found this old tripod, anyone know anything about it? (more pics incoming)

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Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 18:51:04 No.2971883 Report

Quoted By: >>2971884

>>2971882
2/3

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Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 18:52:18 No.2971884 Report

Quoted By:

>>2971883
3/3

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Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 20:08:23 No.2971922 Report

Quoted By: >>2971940

I fly often in tiny planes, I'm looking for camera that will be beneficial at handling the movement and distance aspects anyone have ideas?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 20:12:26 No.2971924 Report

Quoted By:

It happened. I bought it.

http://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/camera-lenses/af-s-nikkor-24-70mm-f%252f2.8e-ed-vr.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 20:38:26 No.2971930 Report

Quoted By:

>>2971811
> Two questions: did I get a good deal on a decent entry level camera?
Not my kind of camera, but maybe it's an okay deal?

> Second, what resources do you recommend for beginners?
Maybe a tutorial on using DXO / Lightroom or whatever you're going to use to deal with RAW files?

Maybe one related to lighting?

But it might be simplest to just look up stuff when you have problems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 20:54:17 No.2971936 Report

Quoted By:

>>2971864
About 1.5 stops of light? If you mean the manual 50/1.4 it is also considerably less sharp wide open than the 50/1.8 or the 35/2.4 wide open.
I would say it is less sharp even at around f/2
Go for the DA 50/1.8, you can easily fit the 35/2.4 in the budget as well and use tripod and long exposure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 21:00:32 No.2971940 Report

Quoted By: >>2971943 >>2971953 >>2971959

>>2971922
a guy on here that was in the military used a fuji x series. he flew alot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 21:03:11 No.2971943 Report

Quoted By: >>2971953 >>2971954 >>2971959

>>2971940
He also got a few great shots, I member.
I doubt it was due to the camera alone though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 21:07:06 No.2971945 Report

Quoted By:

>2971940

Ill keep that in mind thank you!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 21:09:44 No.2971953 Report

Quoted By: >>2971959

>>2971940
>>2971943
Also he mostly used a 50mm lens, 75mm equivalent IIRC

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 21:10:05 No.2971954 Report

Quoted By:

>>2971943
of course. the camera seemed to work for him none the less.

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Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 21:26:04 No.2971959 Report

Quoted By: >>2972161

>>2971940
>>2971943
>>2971953
Fuji 56mm f1.2, 85mm FF eq.
Great thread, I should have saved more from him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Nov 2016 21:36:48 No.2971961 Report

Quoted By: >>2974552

I'm going to a Fujifilm presentation/traveling showroom thing where they'll have their latest shit for everybody to try
does anybody want me to try anything in particular so I can briefly and poorly review it you gearfags?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 00:20:12 No.2972054 Report

Quoted By: >>2972064 >>2972067 >>2972070

Hi /p/ i'm thinking of buying my first camera. Currently using phone (s7 edge) and mainly take holiday snaps and if I see something cool when I am out and about already. I'm not the kind of person who will go somewhere with the main intention of taking photographs but enjoy spending 5-10 mins trying to get decent pictures.

I was thinking of the Sony Alpha 6000 which comes with a SELP1650 lense. I can get it for £380 and was wondering if this is a good choice or if there are better options in that price range for a small csc. I want something that has a decent amount of options so I can learn but my experience in photography is limited to playing around with the settings on my phones "pro" mode.

Thanks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 00:37:41 No.2972064 Report

Quoted By: >>2972301

>>2972054

a6000 is the best camera you will get for that price.

Comparable mirrorless cameras are all near or over $1000.

That said, the kit sucks for anything more than snapshots. It will blow your cellphone out of the water, but the camera can do way better. Pick up a prime or the older 18-55 kit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 00:41:39 No.2972066 Report

Quoted By:

>>2971853
I got a K5 when the K5 ii was released. Would consider it money well spent, and they can be had for just a few hundred on the used market these days.

The control schema and iso performance is a notable step-up from the K100. It lacks astrotracer and focus peaking though, for those you will have to get a more recent body.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 00:43:28 No.2972067 Report

Quoted By: >>2972301

>>2972054
Sounds like a good idea.

The a6000 has a lot of options for its price, but the kit lens will be kinda "meh". Still, it's something to get started with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 00:50:32 No.2972070 Report

Quoted By: >>2972082 >>2972083 >>2972301

>>2972054
As someone who started with that kit,
if you choose the Sony route, know that it'll get frustrating later down the line in terms of upgrading and the like. The Sony bodies are more expensive, yet they are flawed in so many ways, and the lenses are under-performing for their high price point.
If you choose to abandon the system entirely later, then fine.
But if I were to do it over again, I'd spend a bit more and get the Fuji X-E2S with a nice lens.
Sure, the Fuji has lower resolution and slower autofocus, but you'll have nice lens that will still perform stellar if you choose to upgrade to a higher-end body later. Plus artsy-fartsy film color simulation if you're into that.

So if you don't intend to upgrade anytime soon/one-off purchase, then A6000.
If you have possible intentions of remaining in a specific company's family of lenses and cameras in the future, then Fuji.

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Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 01:02:45 No.2972075 Report

Quoted By: >>2972165

good cop? i convinced him to go down to 300 dollars but im not sure guys. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. Many thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 01:13:19 No.2972082 Report

Quoted By:

>>2972070

>10円 has been depositedinto your 富士フィルム shill account

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 01:13:42 No.2972083 Report

Quoted By: >>2972089

>>2972070
> The Sony bodies are more expensive
For equal performance, they're usually some of the cheapest options.

> and the lenses are under-performing for their high price point
Funny, that's exactly my impression of the Fuji X-mount glass as compared to the E-mount (and many other mounts).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 01:22:55 No.2972089 Report

Quoted By: >>2972104 >>2972111 >>2972301

>>2972083
Which why I bought my A6000 in the first place.
It's also why, at this juncture, it's becoming something of an issue about leaving the system for something else or staying on longer.
Granted, it's not that the X lineup is stellar across the range, or that there are more options. It's just that, at the same price-points, you have Fuji lenses that are optically superior. The 30-50mm range, for example. The Sony lenses have features like OSS that might point towards a different philosophy - it's the new avenues of taking photography, and not the image sharpness alone, that are more important.

I suppose I just got the impression from that guy that he wasn't about body features alone, but also the 'fun' of taking photos. Fuji bodies, with their tactile controls and artsy-fartsy film sims, might offer that to him.

I am wrong about the body thing though, my mistake. That is the whole reason why I started with, and have stayed with the A6000! No reasons from other brands to switch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 01:47:41 No.2972104 Report

Quoted By: >>2972110 >>2972114 >>2972119 >>2972301

>>2972089

Fuji aims at gwc and other casual photographers. Cute bodies, absolutely stellar jpeg engine and so on.

This is something Sony has neglected.

It is probably a big mistake for Sony not to do so. Casuals make or break camera brands.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 02:00:28 No.2972110 Report

Quoted By: >>2972114

>>2972104
I got caught in their marketing tactics too. Got Fuji GAS but probably won't buy any.

Anecdotally, whenever people pick up my A6000/ friend's A7 they feel it's 2advanced4u. I thought the sleek black bodies would cater to younger generations but I guess not. With changing trends leaning towards retro, I suppose Fuji and Olympus' stylistic choices were bound to succeed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 02:02:07 No.2972111 Report

Quoted By: >>2972118

>>2972089
> It's just that, at the same price-points, you have Fuji lenses that are optically superior. The 30-50mm range, for example
You could grab a Sigma 30mm f/1.4 (~$300) and Sigma 60mm F2.8 (~$180). Both are sharper and cheaper than the X-mount glass.

I guess you got a wider maximum aperture on the 56mm f/1.2, but it still costs 4x more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 02:05:14 No.2972112 Report

Quoted By:

Instead of increasing iso amount, why cant we have less than 50 or 100?

Isnt it very beneficial to have the extra abillity to stop down further?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 02:06:02 No.2972114 Report

Quoted By:

>>2972110
>>2972104
lol, sony users desperate to think they chose the superior option in some way
>gwc and casual photographers
you mean people interested in photography as opposed to people interested in stellar gadgets from their favorite video game manufacturer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 02:06:08 No.2972115 Report

Quoted By:

>>2971709
>erosion resistant
I think you mean corrosion

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 02:09:35 No.2972118 Report

Quoted By:

>>2972111
Funny thing, I got both!
I suppose I am actually falling into the trap of anti-Sony sentiment everywhere. Perhaps trying to steer people away from the same situation I'm in, but once I reconsider all things, the situation is not actually bad at all. It's just that other systems seem exciting to try out for fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 02:11:28 No.2972119 Report

Quoted By:

>>2972104
> It is probably a big mistake for Sony not to do so. Casuals make or break camera brands.
They're using smartphones (even amateur P&S are selling a lot less), not IL cameras.

Sony's strategy of going upper midrange and high end on MILC and lenses seems to be working a lot better than Canon / Nikon and other competitor's strategies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 02:24:49 No.2972127 Report

Quoted By:

>>2971284
>The Fuji kit lens is a better lens, though not by much

Are you even serious?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 03:05:47 No.2972150 Report

Quoted By:

>>2971686
>detachable foot
Just search for "oubo Adapter" on Amazon, youll see what I mean.

>50mm 1.4
With a focal reducer, that would be a beast

> CCTV from China
No, CCTV lenses are C-mount.
I mean actually native MFT lenses. Look for Neweer or Meike.
But they wouldnt Beet a 1.4 anyway, especially not with focal reducer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 03:22:24 No.2972161 Report

Quoted By:

>>2971959
I'm fairly certain this photo is from the trip "Hanoian" or whatever. He is not the military guy who took photos of helicopters and pilots

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 03:38:09 No.2972165 Report

Quoted By: >>2972170

shameless bump :~|
>>2972075

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 03:47:46 No.2972170 Report

Quoted By: >>2972218

>>2972165
it's a cheap consumer DSLR with a cheap consumer lens on it. That's about the least money you'll be able to spend for something vaguely recent.

The accessories are worthless, btw. You don't need a UV filter with digital. The CPL probably works but I'd be shocked if it was anything other than uncoated chink shit that'll give you color casts and flares. (and probably hard to use since I think the Nikon 18-55's front filter threads rotate with focusing) The telephoto and wide angle adapters are worthless junk.

If I were you I'd save up more money for something better that'll be a better base for you to use later on, as you get more lenses and do more things. Most people who ask questions like yours seem to think that they can get something for $300 that will be all they ever need. If a D3100 and an 18-55 is all you ever need, you might as well have stuck with your smartphone camera and saved the money.

If you do get it at least start saving up another few hundred for a 35/1.8 or 50/1.8 or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 06:03:52 No.2972218 Report

Quoted By: >>2972236 >>2972246 >>2972297 >>2972299

>>2972170
>You don't need a UV filter with digital.
It's useful for protecting expensive lenses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 07:18:56 No.2972236 Report

Quoted By:

>>2972218
Yes, and there are some lenses (I know some Canons are like this, idk about Nikon) where they're only fully weather-sealed if a filter is installed.

The lens that anon is buying is a non-sealed 18-55 with a resale value approaching $60, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 08:26:13 No.2972246 Report

Quoted By:

>>2972218
>not getting a lens protector marketed filter

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 12:14:17 No.2972297 Report

Quoted By:

>>2972218
It is also good in destroying the IQ on the expensive lenses making the photo look like it was made with a cheap shitty kit lens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 12:17:22 No.2972299 Report

Quoted By:

>>2972218
Too many of these fuck with your IQ, making the expensive lens perform poorly.

And if you want one that's known to not be too bad you'll pay like $100, and this device gets scratched / broken far easier than your front element, actually.

Unless the lens manufacturer intended one to be used, I'd go with just a lens hood.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 12:21:26 No.2972301 Report

Quoted By: >>2972302 >>2972332

>>2972064
>>2972067
>>2972070
>>2972089
>>2972104

Thanks for the feedback guys. This will be a one time purchase so I think i'm going to get the a6000.

>>2972089 is right and looking at the Tx10 the aesthetics of the body and tactile controls does seem more appealing to me than the a6000 but it is too much of a price difference between the two to justify it I think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 12:22:29 No.2972302 Report

Quoted By: >>2972332

>>2972301

XT10*

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Nov 2016 13:00:21 No.2972332 Report

Quoted By:

>>2972302
>>2972301
Go for it, it is a nice camera. Try and get at least one decent prime, 50mm or 35mm, depending on what you like to shoot more, portraits (50mm) or generic scenes/street etc... (35mm)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 00:16:12 No.2972577 Report

Quoted By: >>2972594

>bored af waiting for processing tank to dry out
>see a gear review/comparison in my recommended videos
>absolute disgust.webm
>click it because I'm ready to down a bottle of multigrade just to spice up the night
>comparison of two recent APS-C cameras
>shill appears on screen listing specs
>claims he's unbiased and informative
>lists megapickels and AF points
>comparing an apple to an orange
>doesn't list shutter speed or sync speed
Ayyyy, so how do you guys dry your tanks? Had a bit of an issue earlier when I had to reuse a tank for agitation processing and the film got wet/stuck while loading because the tank wasn't 100% dry.

Is it safe to place a paterson tank in the oven at 80-100c or am I going to regret it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 00:36:12 No.2972594 Report

Quoted By:

>>2972577
Yeah m8, it's fine to put plastic in the oven, go for it.
>stainless reel shills will deny this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 03:11:21 No.2972657 Report

Quoted By: >>2973163

Just bought a Panasonic GX1 with 14-42 lens, 2 batteries, EVF and external flash for 300 CAD.

powered count:336
shuttercount:1758
flashcount: 104

How bad did I do familia?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 03:28:08 No.2972664 Report

Quoted By:

>>2970657
Go an xt1 autofocus is terrible on xt2

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 04:33:33 No.2972704 Report

Quoted By:

>>2970495
I learned and still have my D7000. It held up through snow, sleet, and all other abuse students could put rental gear through. The body is now pretty cheap, and even using the 7200 and 750, the 7000 still has a decent autofocus

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 04:39:26 No.2972707 Report

Quoted By:

>>2970532
I'm biased for the 7000 but you have a good point:
Go and get a hands on feel with the different bodies. Weight and feel are important if you're doing hiking and landscapes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 07:40:03 No.2972775 Report

Quoted By: >>2972778 >>2972813

decided to buy an omd em10 ii for christmas. did i fuck up?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 07:49:48 No.2972778 Report

Quoted By: >>2972781 >>2972783 >>2972812

>>2972775
Ya dun goofed. Should have bought a sony a7ii

t. Sony fuccboii

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 07:57:14 No.2972781 Report

Quoted By:

>>2972778
rip me then, eh lads

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 08:00:34 No.2972783 Report

Quoted By:

>>2972778
All I want for Christmas is for you to kill yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 08:40:29 No.2972812 Report

Quoted By:

>>2972778
no matter how horrible a sony is, the fool frame is definitely better than the peanut sensor of olympus.
if you want m43 go with panasonic, at least they have 4k and shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 08:40:56 No.2972813 Report

Quoted By:

>>2972775

If you don't mind subpar sensor performance it is fine I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 14:59:56 No.2972938 Report

Quoted By: >>2972995

Best manual <28mm lens under 50$/£40? Anything like a Zeiss tessar 50mm for shorter focal distance?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 16:28:11 No.2972986 Report

Quoted By: >>2972993

About a month ago I came on here looking for advice for a $600ish camera and lens for the GF. She's not picky, I am. I want something that will last. A few anons suggested I step up the price a little to a KS-2 or K-70 with a lens kit because they are weatherproofed. One anon suggested I buy a cheap used SL1, and buy a good lens.
Yesterday I looked on a gear thread on /p/ and anons were making fun of Pentax. I've held off on buying anything and passed up a couple good K-70 deals. Does anyone have any new suggestions?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 16:37:15 No.2972993 Report

Quoted By:

>>2972986
>Yesterday I looked on a gear thread on /p/ and anons were making fun of Pentax
lmao pentacks is made fun of because no one uses them, due to the company not marketing their cameras well.

That doesn't make their cameras bad though lol, they make great bodies at equally great prices, with some of the best ergonomics in the game.

>passed up a couple good K-70 deals.
Don't be silly mate, go with the K-70

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 16:41:25 No.2972995 Report

Quoted By:

>>2972938
soligor

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 17:09:58 No.2973002 Report

Quoted By: >>2973122 >>2973267

>>2970386
Want to get myself an awesome SliderPlus (Pic Related) because it's running a tiny discount right now. The thing is that i don't have much money and i don't know if these discount are frequent, because i recently found out about the existence of it.

The question is: Do these Sliders go on discount often? What is the chance that they'll drop in price soon? I don't think i can spend that much right now, but if this is a rare discount, then i might as well go for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 21:19:54 No.2973118 Report

Quoted By: >>2973122

>have two friends with 5D
>constantly talk about noise-lessness and low light-perfomance
>Refer to DOF as "separation
>both take horribly glaring, overblown images in broad daylight at ISO 12800

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 21:22:42 No.2973122 Report

Quoted By: >>2973267

>>2973002
I can't predict future prices, but I figure they'll still want to sell them in a while, and I wasn't under the impression that demand was outstripping production capacity on these.

So there should be sales again.

>>2973118
Can't blame Canon for this one... for once.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 22:29:22 No.2973163 Report

Quoted By: >>2973166

>>2972657
Notice me senpai

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 22:42:29 No.2973166 Report

Quoted By:

>>2973163
You managed to buy a camera. Hooray!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 23:04:30 No.2973189 Report

Quoted By: >>2973212

What's a top quality 82mm uv filter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 23:21:37 No.2973212 Report

Quoted By: >>2973263

>>2973189
No such thing, even the "best" will make your lens IQ trash. Flares and ghosting everywhere

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 23:41:04 No.2973232 Report

Quoted By: >>2973237 >>2973239

I need an ultrawide for my d7100. Was looking at the Tokina 11-16 2.8 and the 12-28 f4. Which one should I pull the plug on? I like that the 12-28 goes further but I am worried f4 will be a hindrance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 23:46:29 No.2973237 Report

Quoted By:

>>2973232
Get the 11-16 2.8.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 23:47:23 No.2973238 Report

Quoted By: >>2973250

>>2970386
So I went to B and H and my god, I see why the Fuji people have been ranting. The Fuji XT-2 with the 56 1.2 is an amazing piece of gear. My biggest thing I love about it is well, it makes sense. I mean, having ISO and shutter speed on top is extremely logical and hell it forces you to learn, and apature on the lens just makes so much sense I am shocked I went this far without it.

I am thinking of going for my new kit going from a 7DII with a 50-100 (the focus sucks on that shit I bought the dock, I adjusted it but even then it isn't reliable enough OR I have to use a monopod because its too damn big and.. ugh. IF canon had sensor stablization possibly but now, no.

So I'm thinking of selling my 50-100, and going for this kit. A7II and 16-35 (I have a base A7 and I love it for wide so I feel the IS will make it even better)), and for my second camera (I shoot events), I will go for a Fuji 56 1.2.

Is this a solid setup for a mobile light shooting kit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 23:47:43 No.2973239 Report

Quoted By:

>>2973232
Sigma 10-20mm?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 23:58:38 No.2973249 Report

Quoted By:

What is a working Nikon D1 worth?

Also, how well does it perform?
Ken's ISO comparison page makes it look like shit, even compared the the 5D.
Is he playing with the settings or is it truly trash? I've been using a Canon 1D for a while now and I'm very happy with the results from the CCD.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Nov 2016 23:59:47 No.2973250 Report

Quoted By:

>>2973238
Personally I wouldn't even need the Fuji here - a 85mm f/1.4 GM is basically more capable than the Fuji 56 f/1.2.

But I also kinda get why this might be a fun setup - the lens is half the weight of the GM. So, why not...?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 00:04:03 No.2973251 Report

Quoted By: >>2973257 >>2973259

Hello.
I recently bought a6000 and I'm generally pleased with the camera. I don't have the kit lens or any other modern lenses (can't afford those) do I'm using legacy lens (rokkor and standart Canon FD 50mm/1.4).
Any idea what lens could I get that would be slightly better than what I already have? Takumar or something like that? Or should I just wait till I have enough money to buy some Sony prime lens for E mount?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 00:07:26 No.2973256 Report

Quoted By: >>2973260

Redpill me on Pocketwizards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 00:07:31 No.2973257 Report

Quoted By: >>2973266

>>2973251
I'd just wait until you got money for one of the Sigma f/2.8s or the 30mm f/1.4 or such lenses.

Shouldn't be too long a wait with them costing $150-300 or so, with used ones sometimes popping up cheaper.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 00:09:05 No.2973259 Report

Quoted By: >>2973264 >>2973265

>>2973251
>has no money for lenses
>buys the system with the most expensive mediocre lenses.
You dun goofed, bud.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 00:09:41 No.2973260 Report

Quoted By:

>>2973256
They work, but they're probably pointlessly expensive for you.

You should be able to do fine with a Yongnuo or Godox trigger system. Which are highly reliable, effective and inexpensive, plus in their current incarnations generally operate easily and well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 00:11:53 No.2973263 Report

Quoted By:

>>2973212
>implying flare is bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 00:17:00 No.2973264 Report

Quoted By: >>2973270

>>2973259
> expensive mediocre lenses
How many sharper cheaper APS-C alternatives to the 12mm Samyang f/2, 30mm Sigma f/1.4 and 60mm f/2.8 do you see?

Sony's 28mm f/2 and 55-210 and a bunch of others are also quite okay for overall price-performance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 00:18:13 No.2973265 Report

Quoted By:

>>2973259
I bought mainly to scan negatives at higher resolutions than my NEX, and I already have the enlarger lenses to do so, all other stuff is just an addition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 00:19:04 No.2973266 Report

Quoted By: >>2973271 >>2973276

>>2973257
I'm more leaning towards 50 mm (less distortion). Are the autofocus performance on Sigma lenses as good as on the sony ones?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 00:19:38 No.2973267 Report

Quoted By:

>>2973002
>>2973122
I remember keeping an eye out for one of these some 7 months ago. I checked them out today and i believe they're still at the same price they've been since i first saw them if you don't include the discount.

Does anyone here have a SliderPlus from over a year ago? What was the price back then? Is it cheaper now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 00:20:37 No.2973268 Report

Quoted By:

Would a dry bag serve well for bringing a camera in from a cold to a warm environment?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 00:24:34 No.2973270 Report

Quoted By: >>2973273

>>2973264
>tries to defend his mediocre system
>can only come up with third party lenses
You sonyfags are not even trying anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 00:25:14 No.2973271 Report

Quoted By:

>>2973266
Sigma's 60mm f/2.8 is a superb lens in terms of sharpness, and should be under $200. $150 if you're lucky with the regional pricing lottery (it's that cheap in some places).

> Are the autofocus performance on Sigma lenses as good as on the sony ones?
Not quite.

The f/2.8s will do center PDAF only (on the middle 5 points) - though they feel just normal.
The 30mm f/1.4 will work in a larger area, but feel a bit less reliable with PDAF (AF-C).

CDAF (AF-S) is not really much affected in either case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 00:27:52 No.2973273 Report

Quoted By: >>2973275

>>2973270
> can only come up with third party lenses
I can come up with quite good & fairly inexpensive native third party lenses.

That's just a *good* thing to me as a user.

I bought a Sony camera, not Sony stocks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 00:29:14 No.2973275 Report

Quoted By:

>>2973273
>I bought a Sony camera, not Sony stocks.
Yet you behave so. It is time to stop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 00:30:12 No.2973276 Report

Quoted By: >>2973279

>>2973266
By the way, there are also low budget lenses by Neewer for around $60 on Aliexpress, including a 50mm f/2.

Should be marginally better than many a vintage lens, but they're not really good... they're cheap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 00:31:54 No.2973279 Report

Quoted By: >>2973282

>>2973276
Yeah, I've seen those. No autofocus thou, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 00:36:45 No.2973282 Report

Quoted By: >>2973283

>>2973279
No, no AF. They are just an alternative to vintage lenses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 00:38:02 No.2973283 Report

Quoted By: >>2973285 >>2973299

>>2973282
Got it. Maybe I'll just try to save up for a Sony 50mm, take advantage of this autofocus. Or maybe just a kit lense for this camera.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 00:43:20 No.2973285 Report

Quoted By: >>2973288

>>2973283
I hope you like purple

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 00:44:10 No.2973288 Report

Quoted By: >>2973294

>>2973285
What do you mean?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 00:47:45 No.2973292 Report

Quoted By: >>2973297

What's the best weather covering cloth to keep my camera dry while shooting in pouring rain or in snow?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 00:48:46 No.2973294 Report

Quoted By: >>2973500

>>2973288
I mean the massive purple fringing of the Sony 50mm lens

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 00:50:17 No.2973297 Report

Quoted By: >>2973301

>>2973292
Why, you need extra covering in rain? Isn't your camera and lens weather sealed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 00:50:34 No.2973299 Report

Quoted By: >>2973302

>>2973283
Worth considering, sure.

That said, I wasn't even even paying much attention to cost and I ended up with the Sigmas. On the 60mm f/2.8 in particular I'm pretty damn sure that's one of the best lens deals I ever got.

The 5 center PDAF points and regular CDAF really don't cause much of a problem to work with, and the lens is just so damn sharp for such a cheapie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 00:52:06 No.2973301 Report

Quoted By: >>2973312

>>2973297
Camera is, lens is ""water resistant""" but wouldn't trust it in pouring rain

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 00:52:42 No.2973302 Report

Quoted By: >>2973360

>>2973299
I might consider it, just need to do some reading about those autofocus modes you mentioned. I've only shoot manual up to now and I'm a complete noob when it comes to autofocus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 01:19:42 No.2973312 Report

Quoted By:

>>2973301
Used a Pentax with kit lens in downpour covering a local event, not a damn problem happened. The thing just went on delivering the shots. No fogging, no leaks, no shortcircuit. Wiped it off after and put it in the drybox when I got home just to be safe.
If it is rated for weather sealing then you shouldn't worry. Unless it is a sony of course.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 01:30:33 No.2973319 Report

Quoted By: >>2973320 >>2973332

Could someone fill me in on the basics of using old lenses on modern Pentax DSLRs?

I am about to inherit a used K-3 body from a cousin, but no lenses, and want to just start out cheap with some ebay stuff. What do I need to look for to get stuff that will autofocus? What are some good specific lenses to pick up?

Thanks bros!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 01:31:36 No.2973320 Report

Quoted By: >>2973323

>>2973319
>What do I need to look for to get stuff that will autofocus
no autofocus for ya, baby

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 01:34:23 No.2973323 Report

Quoted By: >>2973325 >>2973326

>>2973320
I kinda thought I might be screwed there. What lenses should look out for that will be decent for manual focus? I have almost no spare cash at the moment so I'd like to just pick up some old cheap stuff to get me going.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 01:37:08 No.2973325 Report

Quoted By: >>2973327 >>2973330

>>2973323
You buy an M42 adapter and take off the little spring and screw. Then you buy a Helios 44M, screw on the adapter ring and use it as a normal K-mount lens. It will be an excellent portrait lens.
You should also get the DA 35/2.4 for generic walkaround snapshitting lens, it costs like $80.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 01:37:25 No.2973326 Report

Quoted By: >>2973330

>>2973323
Minolta prime lenses are pretty good, Supe Takumars have great reputation when it comes to prime 50mm lenses, great prive-quality ratio.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 01:38:26 No.2973327 Report

Quoted By: >>2973330 >>2973350

>>2973325
Then again you can get the DA 50/1.8 which is also $80 and no need for manual focusing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 01:42:44 No.2973330 Report

Quoted By: >>2973336

>>2973325
>>2973326
>>2973327

Thanks dudes, time to check out this stuff on EBay a bit, I'm thinking I'll try to drop like 100 bucks and see how far it gets me since I'm a total noob.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 01:45:31 No.2973332 Report

Quoted By:

>>2973319
turn on back-button focus. hold that button while you focus the lens. The phase-detect sensor will stare at the center AF point and flash at you when it sees focus. you have (one-point...) autofocus, you just have to be the focus motor.

SMC-K and SMC-M lenses can't tell the body their aperture, you need to use the green button to meter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 01:48:32 No.2973336 Report

Quoted By: >>2973350

>>2973330
Worst thing that can happen is you're gonna end up with a cheap lens that's not so amazing. When buying on ebay always ask for good pics all around the lens. Check if there are no scratches around the screws so you know if the lens wasn't taken apart for cleaning by some amateur lens mechanic - that's almost a guarantee that calibration of lens is fucked up. Also check for fungus etc. Lot's of good manual vintage lenses, no reason to buy a fucked up one. And check some reviews on those 50mm super Takumars, they are supposed to be the best option from low price 50mm vintage lenses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 02:04:03 No.2973350 Report

Quoted By: >>2973361 >>2973367

>>2973336
>>2973327
So it seems like I could just start with this for like 60 bucks with current promos:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PENTAX-SMC-DA-50mm-f-1-8-Lens-in-Box-/272462059973?hash=item3f700119c5:g:izsAAOSwA3dYN3Rm

I guess I should start there since it will AF? The adapter for m42 lenses seems to be almost as much as that lens.

Can I Just get old cheap-ass K-lenses like these to play with?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pentax-K-mt-lenses-50mm-28-80mm-80-200mm-/391628932208?hash=item5b2ee74470:g:bVgAAOSwcLxYMJO4

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 02:14:48 No.2973360 Report

Quoted By: >>2973362 >>2973531

>>2973302
Sure, read up on it.

But the simple variant is that you have very fast AF on the 5 points in the center of the frame, and somewhat fast AF on the whole frame.

Now, just to quickly how sharp the 60mm f/2.8 is, this is a quick shot of a small figure...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 02:17:28 No.2973361 Report

Quoted By: >>2973363

>>2973350
>The adapter for m42 lenses seems to be almost as much as that lens.
the official Pentax M42-K adapter is indeed like $45.

this is why you should not buy it, buy the chink knockoffs for under $10 instead. As long as you pick one without a flange it'll work okay. It'll look exactly the same as the official one without "Pentax" printed on it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 02:18:12 No.2973362 Report

Quoted By: >>2973531 >>2973532 >>2973534

>>2973360
... and this is the point, a crop to her face.

Compare with your current lenses. I'd be surprised if they could do anywhere near as well.

No problem with using AF-S or AF-C on this, by the way.

And I realize the shot isn't great otherwise, didn't even let her dry properly and the lighting isn't really set up... just showing the lens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 02:18:51 No.2973363 Report

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>>2973361
Ok, wasn't sure if the knockoffs were kosher, thanks.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 02:21:27 No.2973367 Report

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>>2973350
I'd go for the 35/2.4 since it is the normal focal length for APS-C, 50/1.8 is a portrait short tele lens.
Both are excellent though.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 02:22:41 No.2973368 Report

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>>2973363
make sure it's advertised as allowing infinity focus. there's a model out there that doesnt.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 04:21:10 No.2973442 Report

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>>2973440
>>2973440
>>2973440

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 06:31:46 No.2973500 Report

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>>2973294

Which? Sony has like 10 50mm lenses, and the ones I have used have had no fringing issues.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 08:12:07 No.2973531 Report

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>>2973360
>>2973362
Lel, I also test my lenses on animu figures so it's kinda funny to compare with yours.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 08:15:38 No.2973532 Report

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>>2973531
>>2973362

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 08:18:13 No.2973533 Report

Quoted By: >>2973541

>>2973532
and the crop on focus area

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 08:19:41 No.2973534 Report

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>>2973362

Also - thanks for posting those. Looks good, might buy this lens.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 08:34:20 No.2973541 Report

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>>2973531
>>2973532
>>2973533

>Fully clothed animu figures

Disgusting.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 14:20:07 No.2973704 Report

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>>2973531
Somebody say lens test on waifus?

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 14:31:00 No.2973708 Report

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Also some test shits with a 3.5/50mm Macro Rokkor on MFT. Can't get the fucking white balance right on digital, switching by 100K increments and nothing looks right. On Portra all I had to do was plonk on an 80A and it would be just dandy every time.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Nov 2016 14:32:04 No.2973709 Report

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Face got baked pretty bad, should have bothered setting up a better lighting.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Nov 2016 18:34:45 No.2974552 Report

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>>2971961
Please try their new medium format thing and gibe impressions plz

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