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Accurate metering without built in spot meter

Anonymous Thu 16 Mar 2017 14:59:58 No.3040409 View View Reply Original Report

Hey, filmfags.

I have an old Pentax Super ME with center weighted metering. How am I supposed to control my exposure accurately using this piece of trash? Should I burn 150 clams on an old light meter with spot capabilites?

Summed up: photographing without spot metering is like trying to fuck with half a pen0r.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Mar 2017 16:24:11 No.3040429 Report

Quoted By: >>3040445

Film is super forgiving unless you're shooting slide film.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Mar 2017 16:28:00 No.3040432 Report

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>>3040409
>am I supposed to control my exposure accurately using this piece of trash?

There's the actual question you should be looking to answer. Center-weighted metering is for having a pretty good guess, and having to paste your artistic vision on top.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Mar 2017 16:42:19 No.3040445 Report

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>>3040429

but also i will say, yeah. get a meter. they are intensely useful pieces of equipment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Mar 2017 17:22:22 No.3040456 Report

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Do you have a smartphone? If yes download a light meter app

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Mar 2017 21:06:55 No.3040573 Report

Quoted By: >>3040850

By being able to tell how many stops up/down the highlights and shadows from your meter reading with your eyeballs.

Or just finding a patch of highlight/shadows, filling the VF with it, and take your "spot" metering from that. Compensate up/down from that reading then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Mar 2017 23:11:46 No.3040641 Report

Quoted By: >>3040663 >>3040850

Basically what the other guy said; stop relying on your TTL meter and learn how to read the quality of light.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2017 00:08:33 No.3040659 Report

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>metering for anything other than LF and slides

You're doing it wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2017 00:18:44 No.3040663 Report

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>>3040641
Well, don't rely on it dumbly like some digishit is what I mean. If you fill your frame with shadow at EV 10, and your highlights at EV 16, then you'd realize you want to shoot at EV 11 or 12 with negative film, and EV 12 or 13 with slide film and deal with either blown highlights or shadows.

Or point your camera at the scene, see what it meters, then decide to shoot 1 or 2 under if there's large bright spots (headlights, reflective surfaces), or shoot 0.3-1 over when there's subjects often in shade. Negative film makes it easy, just shoot 1-2 stops over shadow meter.

All of this applies to digital too. Meter for highlights-1 and everything should just fit on your (JPG) histogram. Nikon users know to dial in -0.7 with the matrix meter in daylight scenes to get everything captured.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2017 07:15:12 No.3040849 Report

Quoted By: >>3040850

don't even bother with a meter. git good with your brain. take notes, build your own exposure references.
http://www.fredparker.com/ultexp1.htm

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2017 07:20:05 No.3040850 Report

Quoted By: >>3040894 >>3040993

>>3040849
>>3040641
>>3040573

>whenever some fucktard says "just eyeball it bro!" despite the fact that literally every serious fine art photographer and commercial photographer in the history of the medium has used a light meter

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2017 09:09:18 No.3040889 Report

Quoted By: >>3040909

What light meter does /p/ recommend? Also have the same problem, looking at a Gossen Digisix 2 but what else is good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2017 09:16:48 No.3040894 Report

Quoted By: >>3040959

>>3040850
>citation needed

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2017 09:38:01 No.3040909 Report

Quoted By: >>3040917 >>3041032

>>3040889
App for your phone.
Will do both incident and scene metering.
Very accurate.
Very cheap.
You already have the hardware on you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2017 10:03:54 No.3040917 Report

Quoted By: >>3040921 >>3040941 >>3041044

>>3040909
Unfortunately every night meter app I have used on android has been ass, even the paid ones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2017 10:13:30 No.3040921 Report

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>>3040917
Did you use some display protection? I noticed sometimes these give a bad reading. Usually people report lightmeter app as being very accurate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2017 10:22:08 No.3040922 Report

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>>3040409
just get a real digital camera, retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2017 11:04:21 No.3040941 Report

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>>3040917
Light meter (updated version of lightmeter tools pro) works great as long as you have a decent handset, both reflective and incident meter are perfect on my p9.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2017 12:15:22 No.3040959 Report

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>>3040894

Source: The continued existence of light meter companies. There aren't enough cinematographers to keep them in existence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2017 13:27:36 No.3040993 Report

Quoted By: >>3041034

>>3040850
Because these people want to be sure, have to be sure, and can afford to be sure. Anon with his plastic bag camera case and bargain basement K1000 isn't and shouldn't be spending the $400 or whatever on a Sekonic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2017 14:35:34 No.3041032 Report

Quoted By: >>3041033

>>3040909

>using an app
>not using a proper lightmeter

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2017 14:39:36 No.3041033 Report

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>>3041032
>buying superfluous, expensive gear to enhance your hipster meme aesthetic.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2017 14:40:46 No.3041034 Report

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>>3040993
this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2017 15:08:08 No.3041044 Report

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>>3040917
Your anus. The app gives exact the same reading as my F3 or any digital nikon in center weighted metering mode.

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