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Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 05:23:00 No.3078705 View View Reply Original Report

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Why do you guys hate Micro 4/3? Is it solely "b-but muh sensor size" or is there more to it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 05:44:41 No.3078709 Report

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>>3078705
Cool straw, man. I don't hate it, I even think it's nice for being truly compact, unlike meme Sony cameras with DSLR sized lenses on their "compact" bodies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 08:03:27 No.3078770 Report

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>>3078705
It's okay for video but far from ideal due to the limitations on the maximum resolvable resolution projecting onto a smaller m4/3 sensor

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 08:49:51 No.3078776 Report

Quoted By: >>3078790 >>3079610 >>3082016 >>3087862

>>3078705
Sensor is very limiting
Format is dying
Once it is dead all the lenses become worthless
Overpriced
No smaller than sony/fuji cams with proper sensors

There's no reason to use m43 unless you already own it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 09:12:15 No.3078781 Report

Quoted By: >>3078784 >>3079060 >>3079109 >>3079500

>>3078705
Too expensive for what it is, not compact enough for what it is

There are pocketable compacts with APSC sized sensors
If you're gonna get something that you need to carry on a strap or bag anyway, there's no benefit to four thirds

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 09:17:56 No.3078784 Report

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>>3078781
Pretty much this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 09:31:29 No.3078790 Report

Quoted By: >>3078792 >>3079929

>>3078776
>Format is dying
But the two best prosumer video brands use it. Maybe not great for stills but as long as it's the go-to for budget film solutions it's going nowhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 09:33:15 No.3078792 Report

Quoted By: >>3078796 >>3078797

>>3078790
No, sony and red don't use m43.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 09:35:45 No.3078795 Report

Quoted By: >>3078817

>>3078705
If the cameras and lenses were 30-50% cheaper it would be fine for what's currently being offered. But they're not. I think the format needs some drastic change, like a new sensor type that can overcome the low light limitations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 09:37:08 No.3078796 Report

Quoted By: >>3078803 >>3081599

>>3078792
>Sony
>implying the A7 has anything on the GH5

>RED
>implying £30k is 'prosumer'

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 09:38:39 No.3078797 Report

Quoted By: >>3078803

>>3078792
No one uses Sony crop for mission critical small business work. No dual card slots, shitty dimming screens and overheating that still isn't resolved.

And I don't even know why you mentioned RED, and I don't want to know

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 09:52:00 No.3078803 Report

Quoted By: >>3078805 >>3078806

>>3078797
>>3078796
It's like you've never heard of the fs5/fs7/a9

And yes, the overheating issue was solved with the a6300, are you really whining that the $300 a6000 struggles with 4k video? How does the similarly priced canikon hold up?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 09:56:23 No.3078804 Report

Quoted By: >>3078817 >>3087867 >>3087870

Honestly M43 should be the new standard consumer point and shoot sensor size.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 09:56:55 No.3078805 Report

Quoted By: >>3078808

>>3078803
Those Sony crops will overheat on a hot day taking PHOTOS, solved my ass.

The a9, which isn't even out yet, is probably the only one suited for pro video work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 09:58:25 No.3078806 Report

Quoted By: >>3081605

>>3078803
>A9
>for video
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Also the FS5/7 are no better than Canon's video cameras. Too big and expensive for the image you get.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 10:02:03 No.3078808 Report

Quoted By: >>3078810

>>3078805
>sonys overheat taking photos

That's just incorrect, I've shot sony mirrorless since the nex 6 came out, owned 3 more sony bodies and never had a thermal issue. The a6000 had issues for about a month after it came out, then a fw update came out to fix the problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 10:05:06 No.3078810 Report

Quoted By: >>3078814

>>3078808
Good for you, but a modicum of research would show you those issues persisted beyond the "lets just turn off the safeguards so it gets too hot to hold" patch they came up with

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 10:18:46 No.3078814 Report

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>>3078810
All my googlefu shows there's been no issues with stills overheating post update.

You got references?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 10:31:36 No.3078817 Report

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>>3078795
Organic sensors on the way
>>3078804
But muh zoom

I have on EM5, it's pretty old and been through a lot but built like a tank and there's not a scratch on it. The other day I dropped it and the only part that broke was the strap. Given how light it is, even with an extra grip on it, and especially when you consider how light the lenses are, I wouldn't trade it for anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 19:07:07 No.3079031 Report

Quoted By: >>3079033 >>3079600

>>3078705
the Panasonic G85 and GH4 are the top 3 interchangeable lens cameras you can get for <$1000 right now

prove. me. wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 19:10:15 No.3079033 Report

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>>3079031
>top 3
oops, forgot the GX85

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 19:27:57 No.3079040 Report

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>>3078705
Whenever they saw my camera they used to say "you have a micro 4/3 camera, right?"
It feels they're saying that "you have a micro penis, right?".
Of course "yes" was my answer. That answer was uncomfortable.
That's why I sold my camera.

Muhmegapickels !!0Z+XAssRGPW

Muhmegapickels !!0Z+XAssRGPW Fri 19 May 2017 20:06:35 No.3079060 Report

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>>3078781
>Too expensive for what it is, not compact enough for what it is
ding ding ding ding

The cameras are everything about the A6xxx people don't like, except they have none of the advantages. There's no compelling reason to have one.

There's some interesting stuff from Panasonic, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 20:19:30 No.3079064 Report

Quoted By: >>3079137

If you fused the best of the E-M1 Mark II and the GH5 together for $1500 you'd have a hell of a camera.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 22:42:36 No.3079108 Report

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>>3078705
peanut sensor.
panasonic magick sensor is nowhere.
get cucked by sony, they didn't even put bsi on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 May 2017 22:44:27 No.3079109 Report

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>>3078781
jelly of pana tiny 100-400mm

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 00:57:32 No.3079133 Report

Quoted By: >>3079297 >>3081111

this thread is literally all "muh sensor"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 01:11:32 No.3079137 Report

Quoted By: >>3079175

>>3079064
If you fused the best of the D5 and the a9 for $1000 you'd have a heck of a camera.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 02:08:02 No.3079175 Report

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>>3079137
That price point is unreasonable

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 05:27:30 No.3079286 Report

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GH5 > A7s II

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 05:54:52 No.3079297 Report

Quoted By: >>3079461 >>3079463

>>3079133
If bmw released a 3 series with a wheezy little 1 litre diesel engine, people would focus on the engine being shit.

Because if the fundamentals are lacking, it's almost pointless to look at the rest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 15:23:28 No.3079461 Report

Quoted By: >>3079472 >>3079503

>>3079297
>it's another car analogy
Can we try something else for once?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 15:24:25 No.3079462 Report

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>>3078705
I'm still waiting for a GM5 successor with at least 20 megapickles and a tilt screen, then pair it with a 20 1.7 and a 42.5 1.7 and I'm sold. All combined weight would probably be around 410 grams only.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 15:29:26 No.3079463 Report

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>>3079297
If BMW released a car like that fanboys would probably still defend it the same way Sony fanboys defend anything they put out. \

>don't pay attention to sensor size when "my" company makes a small sensor camera
>don't pay attention to megapixel count, it's irrelevant because the camera I'm shilling doesn't have a lot of megapixels
>etc. etc.

It's all about shilling "your" brand; little else matters here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 15:43:48 No.3079466 Report

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M43 is like having a small undercut dick that grows into a perfectly adequate erect dick. For most situations it's more than enough and often preferable to the hassle of an elephant cock, unless you with a buck nasty ho (metaphor for shitty lighting).

Seriously, a LUMIX with the 20mm 1.7 is amazing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 16:12:05 No.3079472 Report

Quoted By: >>3079517

>>3079461
Who are you and why do you have such a problem with car analogies? I've seen someone calling out every car analogy for years on this board. Seriously, you have some weird malfunction.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 16:14:46 No.3079473 Report

Quoted By: >>3079493

>>3078705
Get a FF DSLR and a 1" superzoom like the RX10III. No need for inbetweensies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 17:12:14 No.3079493 Report

Quoted By: >>3079498

>>3079473
Get a 645 MF SLR and a M43, no need for inbetweensies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 17:30:48 No.3079498 Report

Quoted By: >>3079499

>>3079493

Get a 10x8 and an iPhone, no need for inbetweensies

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 17:38:37 No.3079499 Report

Quoted By: >>3079635

>>3079498
Shooting the focusing screen directly with the iPhone, no inbetweensies

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 17:38:51 No.3079500 Report

Quoted By: >>3079559

>>3078781
>There are pocketable compacts with APSC sized sensors
Aren't all of them fixed lens though? I'm torn between the Ricoh GR and the Panasonic LX100. The former has fixed lens and the latter is four turds.

Is there really no good compromise compact that doesn't cost one billion dollaridoos?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 17:53:24 No.3079503 Report

Quoted By: >>3079517

>>3079461
>buying a phone with a processor 1/4 the speed of it's competitors
>buying a TV that only has standard definition

If you massively gimp the key part of anything it turns into a shit product.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 18:30:12 No.3079517 Report

Quoted By: >>3079524

>>3079472
>>3079503
That's the first time I've personally called them out. It's not a big deal it just gets kind of stale.

Honestly, fuck analogies. Just say what you want to say without some convoluted metaphor relating cameras to automobiles. "The camera is fundamentally handicapped by a smaller imaging sensor" says enough, there's actually no need to compare it to a hypothetical BMW at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 18:46:25 No.3079524 Report

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>>3079517
He's trying to explain why "muh sensor" isn't just another muh rant, he uses an analogy and you get mad at him.

It would have been exactly the same had he said that first.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 20:28:25 No.3079559 Report

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>>3079500
cropped m43.
only 12 megapickle.
i suggest rx100iv/v or lx10.
gf9 + kit lens or 20mm is pretty compact.
a5100 + 20mm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 22:12:32 No.3079600 Report

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>>3079031
I got a gx85 with a 25mm 1.7, and going to get the 14-140mm 3.5 for a nice compact versatile kit. I wish the grip was a little better though.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 22:37:10 No.3079608 Report

Quoted By: >>3079611

M4/3 is stuck at the first step.

Their sensors aren't evolving.
Size + technology is against their favour.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 22:39:51 No.3079610 Report

Quoted By: >>3079821

>>3078776
Where does this meme even come from? I can name many issues with m43, but with like a dozen cameras in production and a shit ton of lenses, "dying" is certainly not one of them.

>Also implying that APS-C is somehow a "proper" sensor

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 22:43:53 No.3079611 Report

Quoted By: >>3079612 >>3079652

>>3079608
You'd think all that tech should give Sony a massive advantage over all competition, but somehow it does not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 22:45:37 No.3079612 Report

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>>3079611
The A9 is at step 4, so they do benefit from all of that technology.

It's hard work and smart research that got them there. Without it, they would be in trouble.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 23:23:34 No.3079635 Report

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>>3079499

If this was a brain meme, this would be the highest level.

industar !9kbJjvwmwE

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industar !9kbJjvwmwE Sat 20 May 2017 23:41:30 No.3079644 Report

Quoted By: >>3079654 >>3079658

Shitty picture, but the GM1 is super nice. Body smaller than Sonys compact cameras, with larger sensor. Perfect compliment to larger dslrs without giving up too much quality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 23:49:43 No.3079652 Report

Quoted By:

>>3079611
why sell cameras when you can just monopolize the sensor market?
the camera are just a side business.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 23:50:45 No.3079654 Report

Quoted By: >>3079679

>>3079644
>f3.5-5.6

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Anonymous Sat 20 May 2017 23:56:41 No.3079658 Report

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>>3079644
Including the lens, the LX10 is faster and more compact that than micro four turds.

industar !9kbJjvwmwE

industar !9kbJjvwmwE Sun 21 May 2017 00:56:50 No.3079679 Report

Quoted By: >>3079689 >>3079695 >>3079749

>>3079654
Which is why I use the 14mm 2.5, 95% of the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 01:25:47 No.3079689 Report

Quoted By:

>>3079679
<f/5

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 01:48:08 No.3079695 Report

Quoted By:

>>3079679
lx10 f1.4 is still better.
1" bsi sensor is still better with dynamic range.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 03:37:56 No.3079749 Report

Quoted By: >>3079776

>>3079679
>still chunkier and worse IQ than LX10
why even bother?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 03:51:43 No.3079758 Report

Quoted By: >>3079821

>>3078705
>Why do you guys hate Full Frame? Is it solely "b-but muh size and weight" or is there more to it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 05:19:08 No.3079776 Report

Quoted By: >>3079858

>>3079749
>worse IQ than LX10
what? no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 07:36:16 No.3079821 Report

Quoted By:

>>3079610
Cipa reports, anything under full frame has had a massive hit to sales over the last 3 years.

>>3079758
Same reason people that drive around in nonced up ford focus' say Lamborghini's are shit. Lack of finances makes them feel inferior.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 10:10:47 No.3079858 Report

Quoted By: >>3087964

>>3079776
worse dr.
noise around the same.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 11:05:46 No.3079885 Report

Quoted By: >>3079898 >>3079900 >>3079928 >>3079976 >>3082018

>>3078705

The only reason to carry any camera other than a phone is for depth of field.

M43 has shit depth of field, and is therefore trash.

To get equivalent dof to a real camera, you need to go through tons of trouble.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 11:21:10 No.3079898 Report

Quoted By: >>3079901

>>3079885
So the Sony has;
a smaller size
less cost
more sharpness
less noise
smoother bokeh
better EVF & rear screen

Obviously m43 isn't completely redundant...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 11:22:27 No.3079900 Report

Quoted By:

>>3079885
>this is what bokehfags that cant compose and have never printed larger than 8x10 actually think
>implying hes printed even 4x5

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 11:23:36 No.3079901 Report

Quoted By:

>>3079898

Well m43 has lots of lens options so that is nice.

But Sony has released like 8 lenses a year for the last three and are up to, what? four this year? So that wont be true for lon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 12:06:34 No.3079926 Report

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It's not compact enough to justify the smaller sensor compared to an APS-C mirrorless

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 12:16:53 No.3079928 Report

Quoted By: >>3079930

>>3079885
i shit you not guys. few years back when I was shooting lolympus, i made a nice portrait which obviously lacked proper dof, so I traced the people in the picture, recreated the z-pass and simulated a more intense depth of field in photoshop. Took me an hour or so to do it. Fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 12:17:40 No.3079929 Report

Quoted By:

>>3078790
>But the two best prosumer video brands use it
That's nice for video cucks then, huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 12:18:56 No.3079930 Report

Quoted By: >>3079934

>>3079928
a lie or you would have posted the photo
keep your fantasies off the board please
https://corybuckley.wordpress.com/ not you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 12:32:19 No.3079934 Report

Quoted By: >>3079936

>>3079930
obviously thats not the photo i took as in my post i stated it was a portrait. i just attached something what is a z-depth pass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 12:37:10 No.3079936 Report

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>>3079934
Which you had because you were reading abuot z depth passes earlier today, and you wanted to insert your newfound knowledge into conversation in the most cringey way

Post the pic or the above is proven true

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 May 2017 13:53:40 No.3079976 Report

Quoted By:

>>3079885
6/10 above average trolling

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 03:03:04 No.3081110 Report

Quoted By:

>>3078705
>"b-but muh sensor size" ?

p much only dick waving

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 03:06:19 No.3081111 Report

Quoted By: >>3081122

>>3079133
>this thread is literally all "muh sensor"

/p/:
1. spend $5k on FF
2. still take shit tier snapshits
3. shitpost to not kys

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 03:37:57 No.3081122 Report

Quoted By:

>>3081111
>go on /p/
>care about other people's gear this much
>give yourself undiagnosed high blood pressure
>never take any photos worth mention
>die at 33

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 03:44:38 No.3081126 Report

Quoted By: >>3081561

M43 has some interesting stuff, like the bayonet lens hood, but why even bother when 1" sensor superzooms do 90% of what M43 does? Are you guys going to cry "muh sensor" again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 18:41:02 No.3081561 Report

Quoted By: >>3081585

>>3081126
Those compact superzooms are really shit though - even the proper compact ones with minimal zoom like the RD 100 are pretty shit and massively overpriced

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 19:39:58 No.3081585 Report

Quoted By:

>>3081561
>shit
In comparison to what? Fz2000 and Rx10m3 shit all over m43.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 19:56:45 No.3081599 Report

Quoted By:

>>3078796
>RED DRAGON SUPER DILDO DONKEY DICKS
>pro

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 20:05:26 No.3081605 Report

Quoted By:

>>3078806
>FS5
>Too big
Wow Canon's 1" sensor cinema cam is real small right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 05:08:17 No.3081894 Report

Quoted By:

I'm looking forward to the death of the format so I can get a load of neat primes and a body for peanuts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 10:30:51 No.3082016 Report

Quoted By:

>>3078776
>Format is dying
Twats like you have been saying this since not long after its conception.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 May 2017 10:34:04 No.3082018 Report

Quoted By:

>>3079885
muh bokeh

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2017 06:24:20 No.3084576 Report

Quoted By: >>3084619 >>3084625 >>3085437

>>3078705
I find most of the build quality to be lacking

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2017 07:46:03 No.3084619 Report

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>>3084576
Gh2 with a 20 onit feels better in your hand than a 17yr and 364 day old boobie in your hand, senpai

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 May 2017 08:05:20 No.3084625 Report

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>>3084576
My only experience is with the gh4, which felt better than Canon. Actually I think the GH line is the only camera I've seen with real weather sealing. I used mine in a downpour with no protection. Wouldn't try that with Canon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 May 2017 15:48:59 No.3085437 Report

Quoted By:

>>3084576
Never handled an Olympus, but Panasonics seem solid af

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 16:20:45 No.3087862 Report

Quoted By:

>>3078776
>Once it is dead all the lenses become worthless

Good

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 16:22:24 No.3087865 Report

Quoted By:

>>3078705
MADE IN CHINA

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 16:23:46 No.3087867 Report

Quoted By:

>>3078804
This

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 16:36:55 No.3087870 Report

Quoted By:

>>3078804
1" is better since p&s is all about zoom.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 16:49:37 No.3087874 Report

Quoted By: >>3087881

>>3078705
ITT people think that sensor size will make them better at photography

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 17:13:11 No.3087881 Report

Quoted By: >>3087905 >>3087908 >>3088142

>>3087874
it will, you dipshit. better image quality = better picture; it's irrefutable

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 18:23:05 No.3087905 Report

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>>3087881
if you suck, you're going to suck no matter what camera you use
with a bigger sensor at least the image quality itself will look nicer

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 18:26:37 No.3087908 Report

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>>3087881
shitthatdidnthappen.txt

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Anonymous Fri 02 Jun 2017 20:05:46 No.3087964 Report

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>>3079858
>noise around the same

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Jun 2017 04:34:09 No.3088142 Report

Quoted By:

>>3087881
>gearfag logic

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