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Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 15:25:55 No.3194459 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>3194465 >>3194490 >>3194505 >>3194747 >>3195326

Is Lightroom obsolete and destinated to die left in the dust soon(tm)? Why waste shit on it when you can do everything in Photoshop with the Camera RAW Filter and a billion things more

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Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 15:35:14 No.3194465 Report

Quoted By: >>3194470 >>3194476 >>3194492 >>3194517

>>3194459
>you can do everything in Photoshop with the Camera RAW Filter and a billion things more

Why waste money on a camera when a rock holds down papers just as well?

Why waste money on a car when there are much less expensive chairs for sale?

Why waste money on a house when a cat carrier is a much cheaper way to contain your cat and is a lot more portable?

The answer is: You don't actually understand what Lightroom is and what it's used for. It's not a bad version of Photoshop. It's its own thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 15:35:43 No.3194467 Report

Quoted By: >>3194517

Camera RAW in Photoshop is fine if you're just dealing with one photo, but if you're working on more than that it because a pain in the ass pretty fast.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 15:38:07 No.3194470 Report

Quoted By: >>3194513 >>3194517

>>3194465
Of course its not a bad version of Photoshop, it can't do 99% of the things Photoshop can.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 15:48:08 No.3194476 Report

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>>3194465
This. OP is either a troll or a retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 16:04:56 No.3194490 Report

Quoted By: >>3194492 >>3194513

>>3194459
If a chair could do the same thing as a car then fuck yeah why waste money for a more expensive car? And this analogy works for PS and LR because PS can od what LS can.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 16:07:36 No.3194492 Report

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>>3194490
Meant for this broski >>3194465

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Sage Sun 26 Nov 2017 16:23:34 No.3194505 Report

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>>3194459

The dials and switches and menus in LR are all built around Photographic principles. PS may be able to technically do anything, but it will be more cumbersome and is not an ideal workflow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 16:35:02 No.3194513 Report

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>>3194470
> it can't do 99% of the things Photoshop can.
Exactly. And Photoshop doesn't do the things that Lightroom does. There is some overlap, but they are very different products with different uses.

>>3194490
> If a chair could do the same thing as a car then fuck yeah why waste money for a more expensive car?
A chair can't do the same thing as a car. And a car can't do the same thing as a chair. They are both things that you sit in, but that doesn't mean that they are two versions of the same thing, one of which is objectively better than the other. You wouldn't pull a car up to your dining room table to eat Thanksgiving dinner, and you wouldn't drive a dining room table to the store to pick up beets and deodorant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 16:40:58 No.3194516 Report

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>>3194513
>And Photoshop doesn't do the things that Lightroom does
genuinely curious, what things.

chosis !!gN+fxR1HbtO

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chosis !!gN+fxR1HbtO Sun 26 Nov 2017 16:41:57 No.3194517 Report

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>>3194467
>>3194470
>>3194465
>>3194513
I agree with OP. lightroom is a joke and only used for hoarders that don't know what a valuable photoghraph is and use it to "organize your photographs"

pro tip i might take 300 photos and save 3. i don't need light room to organize my shit for me. light room is for morons that don't know how to use photoshop. it's basically a watered down shit version of photoshop

If you felt an emotional response to this comment please navigate to my website www.chosis.com or www.instagram.com/chosis7 to share how you feel.
All feedback is very valuable ,including IG followers :), to me given that I have stage 3 bone cancer. I am really trying to live life in the photography "fast lane". Just because I have cancer doesn't mean you have to be nice in your comments, I want the complete human experience. Happy photo taking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 16:46:18 No.3194519 Report

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>>3194517
lol nice try, you've already been outed as weirdly impersonating this guy for some reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 17:01:09 No.3194530 Report

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>>3194517
you're one of the worse trips that have showed up here lately. pls kys

No, Lr is not obsolete, and it's good a fucking and a perfect tool to be used with Ps and Br

you guys are just using a screwdriver to hammer a fucking nail, like always.

chosis !!gN+fxR1HbtO

chosis !!gN+fxR1HbtO Sun 26 Nov 2017 17:07:38 No.3194536 Report

Quoted By: >>3194541 >>3194542

>>3194530
>Br
>using BR to water mark photos en mass
>actually thinking anyone is going to steal your shit snapshits

>whew lad

Br and lightroom are for NOOBs and snapshit hoarders. It's like using a while loop when you can use a for loop. you can use a For loop for everything in programming. no need for other loops.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 17:08:54 No.3194537 Report

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>>3194516
>genuinely curious, what things.
Organizing/tagging/etc a large collection of photos.

Bulk editing.

Non-destructive editing.

Editing of files that you don’t actually have on local storage (“smart previews”).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 17:10:10 No.3194539 Report

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>>3194516
Photoshop does not do any cataloging. ACR does all the same raw conversion stuff that Lightroom does, but Lightroom is much more streamlined, and it does batch processing. Lightroom is also completely non-destructive. Obviously a good workflow in Photoshop is also non-destructive, but accidents do happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 17:12:13 No.3194541 Report

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>>3194536

you should quit digital photography

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 17:14:07 No.3194542 Report

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>>3194536
> It's like using a while loop when you can use a for loop. you can use a For loop for everything in programming. no need for other loops.
I'm a programmer too, so this troll almost got me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 17:16:37 No.3194544 Report

Quoted By: >>3194548

>>3194530
>it's good a fucking
what did he mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 17:26:53 No.3194548 Report

Quoted By: >>3194551

>>3194544
good as fuck.. it was a typo, then I tried to retype everything and it didn't end very well lol

but yeah, Lr and Br are good photos software, just like Photos (Mac and it's for free)

to be pretty honest, maybe the majority of /p/ don't even need any photo editing software, you guys praise the SOOC, and play the game 'I'm so good I have only to take ONE photo because MUH superior skills'. It became annoying and all the conversation end with people hiding a thousand files and showing just one.

Even in film photography, if you're going to see a professional strip, you would see the 'same' thing being shot over 4 to 5 times to get a 'pick'

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 17:34:15 No.3194551 Report

Quoted By: >>3194554

>>3194530
>>3194548
>Br

..?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 17:40:39 No.3194554 Report

Quoted By: >>3194555

>>3194551
Adobe Bridge. Basically a fancy file manager that does metadata.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 17:43:18 No.3194555 Report

Quoted By: >>3194556

>>3194554
exactly. The way you can organize your projects, archives and any other stuff is good and fast! And when you see something you wish you could change, just click 'enter' and it open the file direct in the Ps.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 17:44:48 No.3194556 Report

Quoted By: >>3194558 >>3194562

>>3194555
I can do that in a normal folder without any additional programs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 17:47:07 No.3194558 Report

Quoted By: >>3194562

>>3194556
Ok. So use your folders. I use Adobe's Br, Lr and Ps because I like to work this way.

it's not an excuse my way of working is bad, nor your method is good.

if we both can deliver the job done, why bother?

chosis !!gN+fxR1HbtO

chosis !!gN+fxR1HbtO Sun 26 Nov 2017 17:55:11 No.3194562 Report

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>>3194556
this

>>3194558
you realize how much CPU, clutter and needless bullshit cluttering up ur workflow with autistic programs like Br and Lr waste? it's called make a few folders. upload ur raws. view them in Faststone. same the few you wanna keep with 'm' delete everything else process raws to .dng open in photoshop finish the edits save on external HD.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 18:11:22 No.3194571 Report

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>People are unironically replying to this (you) harvester
Thread goes in the hide bin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 19:00:42 No.3194590 Report

Quoted By: >>3194597 >>3194671

>>3194571

Chosis is the funniest trip to trigger. He's completely clueless about everything and act like he's something

I'm start to think he's Jason Lanier trip

chosis !!gN+fxR1HbtO

chosis !!gN+fxR1HbtO Sun 26 Nov 2017 19:15:19 No.3194597 Report

Quoted By: >>3194650

>>3194590
funny because I actually know Jason as he's in NYC a lot. He got paid over 30,000 USD to do a shill video for sony.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2SwyKITEVg

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 21:12:55 No.3194650 Report

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>>3194597
Jason, stop chilling yourself.

>10 reasons why the sony A7Rii is the best camera in the world

>meanwhile in the real world

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 21:39:04 No.3194671 Report

Quoted By: >>3194739

>>3194590
>Chosis is the funniest trip to trigger.
Dude, you’re not triggering him. He’s trolling you. Really successfully, apparently.

He’s saying stupid shit to try to get people to post mean messages on the website of the ACTUAL Chosis, who isn’t someone from /p/. That’s why he posts that little “if this post gave you an emotional response...” thing on all of his stupidest posts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 21:56:15 No.3194684 Report

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Lr is shit as organiser, only good for grandpas that haven't heard about totalcommander. It's strenght is that it's amongst the best raw editors there is. Photoshop's raw is pathetic in comparison. You can only use it when opening a file. Not to mention that it's slow and cumbersome. Affinity Photo on other hand is even ahead of Lr in that aspect since it brings layers on top of raw editing. It's slower thought.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Nov 2017 23:49:42 No.3194739 Report

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>>3194671
I'm not even clicking into Chosis site, nor the Sony Video.

It's stupid, I know. But I also know Lanier is lurking /p/ since last year. So I would never know who is trolling who

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 00:10:01 No.3194747 Report

Quoted By: >>3194750

>>3194459
I downloaded the free trial of LR some time ago. It was cool, you can fuck about with the sliders and get good results fast. However, I'm not a professional photographer that needs to cull and edit photos on the fly due to time constraints.

My workflow is as follows:
>take snapshits
>delete crappy snapshits in camera
>make folder: "snapshits #>9000"
>use free raw converters and make multiple edits (Rawtherapee/Silkypix/ViewNx etc.)
>export tiffs to "edits#>9000" subfolder
>fuck about with layers and whatnot in Jasc PSP v7.
>save as jpgs in "finish/end#>9000" subfolder.
>????
>profit

Works for me on an ancient laptop and doesn't cost £10 a month. Wedding/event photographers or other professionals will find value in the Adobe package. Not me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 00:15:38 No.3194750 Report

Quoted By: >>3194780

>>3194747
Why don't you just torrent it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 01:47:13 No.3194780 Report

Quoted By: >>3194802

>>3194750
>Why don't you just torrent it?
That sounds far too complicated.

About 15 year (ish) ago my best friend said:
>I got the full PS on some disks, you want?
>sure! I said
>fucker used up my entire hard drive
>????
>fail

Thanks but I'm poor. I suppose if I cut back on treats I could afford it but then I'd need to cut back even more for a new computer. I'd rather spend my disposable income on better lenses.

Such is life...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 02:54:44 No.3194802 Report

Quoted By: >>3195390

>>3194780
Check out a program called Darktable. It's a FOSS Lightroom copy. Not exactly the same, but it's what I use. It's completely free.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 05:27:02 No.3194900 Report

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Y’ALL NIGGAS POSTING IN A TROLL THREAD

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 23:35:22 No.3195305 Report

Quoted By: >>3195323

I think some people praising LR as if it's unique and vastly different from PS are not familiar with the 'Camera Raw' menu in PS. Although the interface of LR is more approachable to some people, the tools are almost exactly the same. I've tried switching to LR to justify having both installed on my machine, but why not do everything in the same program rather than having two separate programs? One's not better than the other; they are the same tools with different skins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 00:06:37 No.3195323 Report

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>>3195305
You didn’t use the features that are the main focus of Lightroom decided that Lightroom is just “photoshop with a different skin”.

It’s like dismissing MS Word as just a shittier version of Excel after opening a doc and playing with the table tool for five minutes.

Lightroom isn’t an editing tool. It’s a workflow tool. It doesn’t have the deep bench of editing tools that photoshop has because that’s not its primary focus. At the same time, photoshop is designed to do deep edits on a single file, but doesn’t have the same level of support for things like metadata tagging/searching or batch exporting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 00:22:39 No.3195326 Report

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>>3194459
Why buy Photoshop if your pictures don't suck so much you need to use brushes to fix them?

Lightroom does everything I need.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 02:41:19 No.3195390 Report

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>>3194802
>Darktable
Yes but no but yes...

There is now an unstable version for windows (I believe). Not sure if it will work with my Vista 32 bit OS lol.

I'll cross my fingers and have a look. Being less poor is also an option, kek.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 03:58:36 No.3195438 Report

Quoted By: >>3195459

I want to kill myself everytime I use Lightroom. Why is it to fucking slow? Editing raws is snappier on my fucking phone. I installed the new Lightroom CC too but it's absolute trash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2017 04:48:45 No.3195459 Report

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>>3195438
because you can't use it right.

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