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Anonymous Sun 18 Feb 2018 01:43:38 No.3243826 View View Reply Original Report

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Can someone enlighten me on why you'd use 24fps for amateur video (i.e. drone footage on your holiday)?

I get that it's the "cinematic" but it looks so choppy and god-awful, even compared to 30FPS. I would much rather see my own footage with more clarity of motion and detail - 24 just looks like it's lagging, especially if you're watching it on a monitor or TV.

Is 24fps just a meme? Like a staple of the elite club of cinematography; in that it makes you part of the cool kids but serves no actual purpose and is inferior to the other standards which are scoffed at like 30fps/60fps?

giannis

giannis Sun 18 Feb 2018 01:49:10 No.3243831 Report

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>>3243826
>in that it makes you part of the cool kids but serves no actual purpose and is inferior to the other standards which are scoffed at like 30fps/60fps?
Have you watched The Hobbit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Feb 2018 02:09:36 No.3243848 Report

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Real life isn't at 24 or 30. 30 is closer to the physical representation of reality. 24 is closer to the symbolic representation of reality. Both work for different reasons. That's why sports look great in higher frame rate but "films" do not. It depends on what you think drone footage on your holiday is? Some people think they live in a movie. Others think accurate representation is more important. You both are fags either way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Feb 2018 02:13:32 No.3243852 Report

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>>3243831
Hobbit is 48FPS retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Feb 2018 02:29:11 No.3243859 Report

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>>3243826
It's really just about the look the creator is trying to achieve. If you think your footage will look better in 60fps, film it that way.

I think a lot of youtubers post in 60fps because of the technology being available and I guess the 4k and 60fps options make it seem like your et up must be good, but I find 60 fps to be distracting and overkill unless it;s a game, a sport or some kind of slow motion footage.

As for why 24 is the chosen number for cinema, I have no idea. It'll be heavily documented online but as I said earlier, go with whatever you want for your own footage.
Holiday drone footage probably looks great at 60 frames because it'll be outdoor and probably with panning shots you can slow/smooth later.
If you've got the memory cards, the higher frame rate is easier to fix/change later. Check the difference in bitrate for different fps though.
Last gopro I had (hero4 black) looked fucking awful above 45fps

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fucking cuck !!L1lx81epp6B Sun 18 Feb 2018 03:01:13 No.3243868 Report

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>>3243859

Cinema is 24 frames per second because it was the best compromise between persistence of vision and economy. That’s it. Nothing fancy, nothing crazy.

Asking why we still shoot in 24 frames per second is kind of like asking why we all speak English or still use inches instead of metric. It’s sort of a sophomoric question. 24 FPS is all we’ve ever known, and it looks more filmic to our culture having grown up with it as the standard. It’s hard to buck convention. However, with the rise of video games and new methods of consuming other media, the tide is slowly beginning to change and a higher frame rate is acceptable. So shoot in whatever you want. I will say that any time I watch porn in 60 frames per second, the illusion is broken and the actors become 90% less attractive. I don’t know if it’s because it looks more “camcorder”, or if it’s because there’s more information available about their appearance and my mind has fewer gaps to fill in. The same was true for The Hobbit, where suddenly you could see the props jiggle and the cgi was a billion times less convincing. The same will probably be true for your amateur holiday drone porn or whatever the fuck.

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Anonymous Sun 18 Feb 2018 03:59:43 No.3243882 Report

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>24 is closer to the symbolic representation of reality.
24 is just the least they could use and still get acceptably smooth motion. It was a method to save cost on film.

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Technically Correct !!Y42F2zb/zVh Sun 18 Feb 2018 06:47:03 No.3243955 Report

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>>3243826
> looks so choppy and god-awful
I'm guessing you're watching people who are using a bad shutter speed that's too fast for 24fps. 24fps shouldn't inherently look choppy, given that that's been the standard for motion pictures since the dawn of motion pictures and people don't find big budget movies to look choppy.

But amateurs don't generally realize that shutter speed matters for video, too. People expect to 24fps video shot at 1/50th of a second (~180° shutter angle). Faster than that and it looks weirdly crisp, and since most people will leave autoexposure to pick whatever shutter speed it thinks is best, it'll often pick something faster than that.

https://photography.tutsplus.com/articles/quick-tip-how-does-shutter-speed-affect-video--photo-12092

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Anonymous Sun 18 Feb 2018 07:08:21 No.3243965 Report

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>>3243848
>30 is closer to the physical representation of reality. 24 is closer to the symbolic representation of reality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Feb 2018 10:56:33 No.3244023 Report

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>>3243826
There is no reason to use other than 30(or 60 if you think it looks better for you) for amateur video.

If its 1) interesting to view and 2) does not cause nausea and migraines, who cares.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Feb 2018 18:42:03 No.3244229 Report

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>>3243826
Not a meme. Whether or not 24fps was used as a cost saving mechanism or not - it is NOW the standard.

So if you shoot two identical videos (one in 24fps one in 30) you'll find that the 24fps video is a lot more close to the cinematic feel youre going for and the 30 fps resembles an amateur home video.

YouTubers shoot in HD 60fps because they feel like it makes them look more professional vs. just shooting on a webcam in their bedroom - which is also why they seat condenser mics in their shots along with stupid racing seats. Completely unnecessary but gives them platform legitimacy.

Shoot in 24fps, stabilize the video, and get good audio. You'll be fine as long as your content is good.

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Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Feb 2018 19:42:15 No.3244267 Report

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>>3243826
everything below 60 is a slideshow to my 144hz monitor spoiled eyes. Our eyes are analog not digital that's why the 24fps is awesome crap is just a meme.

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