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>>3466904
>>3467094
I think these are both pretty much as near to perfect a camera has ever been. Too bad I’ll probably never be able to afford either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Apr 2019 05:55:43 No.3467224 Report

Quoted By: >>3467240 >>3467273 >>3467398 >>3468140

>>3466904
>can’t use anything wider than 50mm
DROPPED

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ac !!hMB1p2jaDAI Sat 20 Apr 2019 06:33:55 No.3467240 Report

Quoted By: >>3467268

>>3467224
Sure it can; just gotta use goggles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Apr 2019 07:22:05 No.3467258 Report

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>>3466904
First time on Ken Rockwell's website?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Apr 2019 07:56:35 No.3467268 Report

Quoted By: >>3467273 >>3467275 >>3467287 >>3467294

>>3467240
So I'm limited to only the 35mm DR Summicron that adds bulk to the camera and defeats the purpose of having a 0.91 magnification viewfinder by adding magnification when I can just buy an m2 or m4 that has the same magnification as an m3 with the DR Summicron attached but with no extra bulk and the ability to use any 35mm M mount lens?
DROPPED

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Apr 2019 08:03:12 No.3467273 Report

Quoted By: >>3467278 >>3467294 >>3467876

>>3467224
>>3467268
>shooting anything else than 50

Amateur

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Apr 2019 08:05:02 No.3467275 Report

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>>3467268
Also I never understood why the M3 never had 35mm frame lines when the Canon P has a 1:1 and 35mm framelines. Sure the 35mm framelines in the P take up the whole viewfinder but that would be even less of a problem in the m3.

Also I hate the way you load film in the M3 and the stupid rewind knob. The M4 just feels like an all up better camera to me.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Apr 2019 08:08:54 No.3467278 Report

Quoted By: >>3467661 >>3468135

>>3467273
>shooting anything else than 43mm

Amatuer

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Anonymous Sat 20 Apr 2019 09:11:52 No.3467287 Report

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>>3467268
The 35mm Summicron for the M3 isn't DR, it just has goggles. The 50mm DR (dual range) Summicron has goggles that can be attached to reduce its minimal focus distance from 1m to 45cm. It's an awesome lens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Apr 2019 09:24:44 No.3467294 Report

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>>3467268
You can use any 35mm lens. Just use the full viewfinder. It's about the same FOV as 35mm and it's not like rangefinders have particularly accurate framelines anyway.

>>3467273
Of course this is the correct answer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Apr 2019 13:50:26 No.3467373 Report

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>>3466904
Bad eye relief though unfortunately. Wish they'd designed the early M's with a larger eyepiece so I could actually see the full 50mm framelines with my glasses on.
Otherwise the M3 is indeed closer to perfect than most camera's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Apr 2019 13:54:09 No.3467376 Report

Quoted By: >>3467395

sure, buy this garbage so the much better options remain viable for the rest of us

>shooting film with a 50mm 2.8 lens

lolbud

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Apr 2019 14:30:27 No.3467394 Report

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>>3467219
both can be found quite reasonably
if you don't care about a pristine camera, shooter M2 and M3 bodies can be found for less than what people are asking for FM2 bodies.

you also have a billion options in lenses from proper Leica glass to Voitlander and Russian lenses. Screw mount Leica lenses are cheap as fuck and only need a small adapter to mount on an M, and the old glass has such a nice look to it.

prices on Rolleiflex have stupidly shot up in the last several years, but deals are still out there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Apr 2019 14:34:49 No.3467395 Report

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>>3467376
correction>speed

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Anonymous Sat 20 Apr 2019 14:37:39 No.3467398 Report

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>>3467224
why would you be limited?
I used to have a 15mm but that shit was just way too wide

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Apr 2019 23:27:50 No.3467661 Report

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>>3467278
I absolutely love my 43mm f1.9 limited. It's hands down my favorite lens on 35mm, on aps-c and on FF digital.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 20 Apr 2019 23:59:49 No.3467670 Report

Quoted By: >>3467689 >>3467720

>>3467094

>not modular
>not just using both formats

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 00:48:41 No.3467689 Report

Quoted By: >>3467814

>>3467670
>prism on a TLR
>using a TLR that's larger than a small house
But why?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 02:27:36 No.3467720 Report

Quoted By: >>3467784

>>3467670
>>not just using both formats
>Rolleikin
I can use 2 formats with 1 camera

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 06:43:02 No.3467784 Report

Quoted By: >>3467852 >>3468051

>>3467720
>every photo is a vertical panorama
Terrible idea

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 09:30:16 No.3467814 Report

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>>3467689
the prism is way worse than the usual way of viewing the ground glass

but

being able to change the lens in the first place is a little nicer than putting on a close-up filter, so I can bring a camera and three lenses instead of 3 TLRs with different lenses that don't even exist

the Lens is 180mm so it's for portraits maily
portraits can be shot from the hip but then you are viewing the face from below which really isn't flattering
Or just bring a ladder on your shoot since you saved so much space with your smaller camera, only go to sloped locations or maybe let your model sit down every time...

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Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 13:15:28 No.3467852 Report

Quoted By: >>3467882 >>3468865

>>3467784
is it now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bvj_qbVLYqA

Sugar !egyYvoBZV2

Sugar !egyYvoBZV2 Sun 21 Apr 2019 14:13:27 No.3467876 Report

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>>3467273

>Plebeian 50
>Not patrician 35

Peasants

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 14:21:44 No.3467882 Report

Quoted By: >>3467887

>>3467852
that's fucking retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 14:32:59 No.3467887 Report

Quoted By: >>3467905

>>3467882
Really it's pretty sweet German space magic engineering. I'm pretty stoked that my Rollei came with one even if I might never use it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 15:22:17 No.3467905 Report

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>>3467887
a mask and a couple of gears to change ratios isn't exactly space engineering, anon

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ac !!hMB1p2jaDAI Sun 21 Apr 2019 21:56:52 No.3468051 Report

Quoted By: >>3468085

>>3467784
Sounds like someone’s not good enough at photography to compose a vertical panorama.

Or too dumb to tilt a camera sideways and use the included sports finder mask.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2019 23:09:17 No.3468085 Report

Quoted By: >>3468107

>>3468051
shooting wlf sideways is asinine

ac !!hMB1p2jaDAI

ac !!hMB1p2jaDAI Mon 22 Apr 2019 00:05:33 No.3468107 Report

Quoted By: >>3468732

>>3468085
>shooting wlf sideways is asinine
Sports finder.

cruz

cruz Mon 22 Apr 2019 01:27:27 No.3468135 Report

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>>3467278
>shooting anything else than 43mm
I've been shooting only with 43mm equiv for years (90mm on 6x7)
Guess it's good enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Apr 2019 01:40:49 No.3468140 Report

Quoted By: >>3468144

>>3467224
Costs a LOT OF MONEY to use larger than 35mm. That's over $1 a photo.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 22 Apr 2019 01:50:47 No.3468144 Report

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>>3468140

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Apr 2019 07:17:26 No.3468732 Report

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>>3468107
>sports finder
>rough approximation of framing even at the best of times
>and you’re shooting a different format
You might as well blind fire at this point, there’s no way you’re getting remotely precise framing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Apr 2019 14:33:26 No.3468865 Report

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>>3467852
Based & RetortPilled

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Sugar !egyYvoBZV2 Tue 23 Apr 2019 14:38:20 No.3468868 Report

Quoted By: >>3468878 >>3469110

>>3466904

YOU DONT NEED LEICA CAMERA THAT COST MORE THAN AVERAGE SOVIET HOUSEWIFE

YOU DONT NEED IMPERIALIST JAP CANNON OR NIKON THAT SHOOT 13 FRAMES PER SECOND OF CAT ON AMERICAN LAZEEEE-BOY SOFA

YOU DONT NEED POLAROID CAMERA TO TAKE PICTURE FOR TUMBLING WEBSITE OF HIPSTER

BUY SOVIET RANGEFINDER CAM. A FINE ZENIT OR ZORKI MADE FROM BASTARD NAZI DESIGN AFTER SOVIET ARMY HUMILIATE THEM. BUY 5CM LENS. LEARN TO COMPOSE SUBJECT BEFOREHANDS. LEARN HOW SUBJECT INTERACT IN AND OUT OF FRAME.

SHOOT BLACK AND WHITE FILM. DONT SHOOT KODAK SLIDE FILM OUT-OF-DATE AND DEVELOP IN DRUGGIST PHOTOMACHINE. THAT MAKES YOU HIPSTER ASSHOLE WHO RELIES ON MISTAKES. MISTAKES GET YOU KILLED LIKE BASTARD NAZI ARMY WHO DECIDE TO FIGHT IN WINTER OF OUR GLORIOUS MOTHERLAND.

YOU DONT NEED KODAK CAMERA OF CAPITALIST MYSPACE RETARD GIRL. GO AND TAKE PICTURES LIKE GREAT SOVIET MAN

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Apr 2019 15:03:45 No.3468878 Report

Quoted By: >>3468983

>>3468868
Cringe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Apr 2019 19:25:08 No.3468983 Report

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>>3468878
>not recognizing copypasta
Cringe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Apr 2019 01:52:08 No.3469110 Report

Quoted By: >>3469133

>>3468868
sugar logic
>my photos suck just as much with expensive gear as they do with cheap gear so cheap gear is just as good as expensive gear

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ac !!hMB1p2jaDAI Wed 24 Apr 2019 02:44:36 No.3469133 Report

Quoted By: >>3469148

>>3469110
This is legitimate logic, not just Sugar logic.

Assuming your photos such equally with cheap gear as they do with expensive gear, why spend more on expensive gear? Just use the cheap gear until your skill starts to bump up against the limits of the gear.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Apr 2019 03:22:03 No.3469148 Report

Quoted By: >>3469149

>>3469133
not really
just because someone can't take advantage of good gear doesn't mean that no one can take advantage of good gear.

ac !!hMB1p2jaDAI

ac !!hMB1p2jaDAI Wed 24 Apr 2019 03:26:46 No.3469149 Report

Quoted By: >>3469312

>>3469148
He wasn't saying NO ONE needs good gear.

He was saying YOU don't need good gear. Because you suck.

Unless you're buying good gear for someone else who doesn't suck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Apr 2019 15:14:33 No.3469312 Report

Quoted By: >>3469317 >>3469323

>>3469149
>sucking sugar's cock this hard
tripfags just get more retarded and gay by the day

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ac !!hMB1p2jaDAI Wed 24 Apr 2019 15:38:58 No.3469317 Report

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>>3469312
I’m not really a fan of Sugar, but he’s right that you suck at photography.

Sugar !egyYvoBZV2

Sugar !egyYvoBZV2 Wed 24 Apr 2019 16:12:09 No.3469323 Report

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>>3469312

>ad hominem

Blow my dick faggit

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