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Anonymous Tue 21 May 2019 17:50:54 No.3483048 View View Reply Original Report

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I've heard mixed things about shooting on expired film. Some say that it gives a unique effect while others say pictures just look foggy and bad. Have never tried this myself but I'm interested. Have you guys ever tried? Any experiences or pics you might wanna share would be appreciated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 May 2019 18:06:38 No.3483050 Report

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>>3483048
it's going to vary from roll to roll, get some, shoot it and see what happens

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 08:51:36 No.3483239 Report

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>>3483048
Expired film is very hit or miss. It depends what film stock how old it is, how it's been stored etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 08:58:54 No.3483241 Report

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If it's expired film left in a drawer somewhere at some clueless old man's house, you're gonna have a bad time. If it's expired film stored in a freezer by someone who actually cares or at one point cared about photography then you may have a good time. Normally you can tell by the ebay listing if the seller actually gives a shit. Photos of their film fridge or a knowledgeable description.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 09:22:48 No.3483243 Report

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good: its cheaper, often significantly so
bad: results are unpredictable, mostly worse (if only a little). B&W loses sensitivity, C41 becomes noisier and slide color shifts (often purple). A lot depends on storage conditions (refrigeration helps), but you often don't know about that.

if you don't shoot a lot of film just buy new. If you do shoot a lot or need test rolls, expired film might be a pretty good deal if new is too expensive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2019 11:18:43 No.3483260 Report

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>>3483048
Results are generally worse. It’ll drop contrast and on C41 it’s going to start to color shift.

Sometimes it can look cool but usually is just looks foggy in my experience.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 21:18:25 No.3483889 Report

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>>3483048
If it's negative film, just overexpose by one stop and it'll be fine, unless it's expired by a very long time. I don't know if that would apply to slide film, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 22:24:43 No.3483926 Report

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>calling shitty film fog a unique effect

nothing but fridge or freezer stored expired film is worth shooting

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 22:44:01 No.3483939 Report

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>>3483889
Slide film tends to lose contrast and color shift quite a bit, but works best at box speed in my experience. Also slower film holds up better. I've gotten some pretty decent results from old Velvia 50 and Fujichrom 64T, after editing the scans a lot, but I tried some equally old Provia 400, and it wasn't really salvageable.

In the end, though, slide film is such an expensive pain in the ass to process that it's often not worth shooting if it's long expired.

Pic is a shot from the expired Velvia 50.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 22:47:35 No.3483940 Report

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>>3483939
for comparison, this is the Provia 400, without any adjustments. There's only so much you can do with that.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 22:51:43 No.3483942 Report

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Medium format film seems to hold up better, too, in my experience. I think the airtight packaging keeps the chemicals from degrading as quickly as 35mm. This Ektachrome was around 10 years old when I shot it, and it actually turned out great. Still too expensive to process, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 22:55:06 No.3483945 Report

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>>3483048
Depends how bad it is.
How was it stored, when did it expire, which type/brand.

Usually it's worth a try if you're not shooting something important and you develop and scan yourself.
It's not worth if you pay a camera store to develop it and make prints because you can end up paying for shitty prints.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 22:57:06 No.3483947 Report

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One more example of expired slide film. This was Fuji 64T. It's tungsten-balanced, so it's already blue shifted, and resulted in some pretty cool shots of backlit glass sculptures at dusk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 23:00:49 No.3483949 Report

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>>3483048
I shoot alot of expired b&w and slide often over 10 years expired.

What the anon said above about freezer stored is valid for slide; but if you get a good deal on 10-20 rolls on eBay/Craigslist pull the trigger and shoot a test roll (sunlight, overcast, artificial lighting, flash) and work out what it's usable for. If it's been freezer stored you can usually just shoot at box speeds. Otherwise I find an extra 1/3-1/2 stop is worthwhile and that if I'm shooting near sunset or sunrise I get blues heading a little towards magenta. Underexposed tends to get green cast in the shadows.

For >10 year expired b&w: 400 or faster I give an extra stop, slower than that I shoot at box speeds. I usually give about 5-10% extra dev time too (in rodinal).

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Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 23:01:30 No.3483951 Report

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>>3483940
If I can get this far with a shitty jpg and just a couple of minutes of dicking with it, you can get a good image from that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 23:19:59 No.3483960 Report

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>>3483048
>foggy

Use the, "dehaze," tool.

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Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 23:23:46 No.3483962 Report

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>>3483951
>>3483940
First one was just dicking with white balance/tint, contrast, and dehaze.

This one, I increased the black point on the green curve and magenta curve plus played a little bit with the hue shifting.

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Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 23:30:05 No.3483966 Report

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>>3483951
Oh sure, you can get a halfway decent image out of it, but is it worth the cost of developing and the time it takes to make it look "good?"

I'd rather just shoot fresh film and not have to fuck around with it a bunch to get the result I want.

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Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 23:31:00 No.3483967 Report

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>>3483962
>>3483951
>>3483940
>>3483966
Also tried a bit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 May 2019 23:33:57 No.3483969 Report

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>>3483966
>Oh sure, you can get a halfway decent image out of it, but is it worth the cost of developing and the time it takes to make it look "good?"
Eh, I don't think it'd take quite as long as you believe. I got it as far as I did with less than five minutes of total screwing around without knowing what the scene looked like.
>I'd rather just shoot fresh film and not have to fuck around with it a bunch to get the result I want.
Absolutely fair point, I'm just of the mind of not wasting shots you do currently have because of a little color shifting. I don't fuck around with expired film in the first place exactly because of this issue.

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Anonymous Fri 24 May 2019 08:50:25 No.3484133 Report

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My time to shine.
I’ve been shooting expired Kodak max 400, max 800, superia 400, and many other randoms for awhile now and I’m quite pleased with the results. It is very hit or miss, some pictures don’t come out at all. But the ones that do can have cool foggy effects and or tints to them. You can also get similar effects using cheap, old, plastic film cameras.

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Anonymous Fri 24 May 2019 19:38:37 No.3484287 Report

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>>3483940
>>3483951
>>3483962
>>3483966
>>3483967
guys you sure fucking suck.

take this advice from an old friend: drop the camera and kill urselves ;)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 May 2019 19:49:21 No.3484292 Report

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>>3484287
I never claimed I was good. My point was that if my sorry ass can get that far, then someone with a decent copy can go much farther.

That said, you really should unfuck that magenta on the left in the sky

giannis

giannis Fri 24 May 2019 20:08:17 No.3484300 Report

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>>3484287
Good job anon.
I think that's the best that can be done without masking parts of the photo and correcting them selectively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 May 2019 21:52:58 No.3484345 Report

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All the Velvia 50 I shoot is expired (10-20 years) and pretty much all of it has come out really well, almost indistinguishable from fresh stock. But Provia and Ektachrome have always given me bad experiences, huge colour casts and bad contrast. Colour negative film is the same, it’s always looked like shit. Good enough for happy snaps, but not for anything you’re looking to publish.

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Anonymous Fri 24 May 2019 22:38:23 No.3484391 Report

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I shot some expired Superia 400 yesterday, and it came out pretty rad. Not a ton of color shift, and just a little loss of shadow detail, but I had expected it to be much more dramatic.

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Anonymous Fri 24 May 2019 22:39:35 No.3484393 Report

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Anonymous Fri 24 May 2019 22:43:59 No.3484397 Report

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Anonymous Fri 24 May 2019 22:45:12 No.3484398 Report

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Anonymous Fri 24 May 2019 22:49:17 No.3484401 Report

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Anonymous Sun 26 May 2019 15:13:15 No.3485034 Report

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;)

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Anonymous Sun 26 May 2019 22:39:41 No.3485240 Report

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>>3484287
>>3483940
>>3483951
>>3483962
>>3483966
>>3483967
you all suck....took me literally 2-3 min

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 May 2019 22:40:45 No.3485242 Report

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>>3483967
also desu this sucks even more than ops flat shit lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 May 2019 03:47:30 No.3485404 Report

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>>3485240
repulsive palette. unironically kys.

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