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Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2019 01:47:12 No.3557084 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>3557088 >>3557093 >>3557155 >>3558539 >>3558544 >>3558943 >>3558965

>just ordered a mirrorless camera
>paranoid as fuck about an exposed sensor
how am i supposed to avoid getting dust and other stuff off the lens?

or maybe is it easy to clean it?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2019 01:50:49 No.3557088 Report

Quoted By: >>3557090 >>3557094 >>3557211 >>3558536

>>3557084

Good choice, buddy. Hope you never need to shoot video with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2019 01:53:38 No.3557090 Report

Quoted By: >>3557100 >>3557191 >>3557195

>>3557088
n-no it was just an example
i ordered an eos rp for $999 with adapter + grip

h-how bad did i do

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2019 01:55:07 No.3557093 Report

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>>3557084
>paranoid as fuck about an exposed sensor
you're in luck, it isn't exposed

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2019 01:58:11 No.3557094 Report

Quoted By: >>3557096 >>3557098 >>3557105 >>3557119

>>3557088
>people buy a used a7r for video
You dun goofed ohlimpanon.

>inb4 muh gamma profile
>inb4 muh 90ppi is all you need
>inb4 the raw file is corrupted REALLY WEIRD
>inb4 muh gimmicky pixel shift that only works on scenes with zero movement

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2019 01:59:28 No.3557096 Report

Quoted By: >>3557098

>>3557094
Olympiss btfo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2019 02:00:42 No.3557098 Report

Quoted By: >>3557102

>>3557096
>>3557094
Seems like more of a glass issue. Also, nobody on /p/ is in a place to ever care about such minute details.

t. shoot film

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2019 02:02:36 No.3557100 Report

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>>3557090
The RP unfortunately doesn't close the shutter like the R. But Canon's sensor coating and sensor cleaning work extremely well. I've never had a dust problem on an M (sensor exposed) or their DSLRs (not exposed, but I've had them in extreme environments).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2019 02:03:38 No.3557102 Report

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>>3557098
>uses ohlimpanons excuses
>"b-but i really shoot film"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2019 02:10:36 No.3557105 Report

Quoted By: >>3557112 >>3557113

>>3557094
>people buy a used a7r for video

Of course they don't! They buy the superior em5 mk ii, and get the 50MP pixel shift mode for free!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2019 02:18:20 No.3557112 Report

Quoted By: >>3557113 >>3557120

>>3557105
>pixel shift
>superior
Choose one and only one.
>w-wait...no...MUH GAMMA PROFILE!!!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2019 02:19:25 No.3557113 Report

Quoted By:

>>3557105
>>3557112
>WAT ABOUT MUH GAMMA PROFILE???

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2019 02:21:10 No.3557115 Report

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Just get a rocket air and use it once in a few days if you switched lenses frequently (or after you have used it in a dusty environment) and it should be fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2019 02:33:41 No.3557119 Report

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>>3557094
These don't even look that much different...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2019 02:35:56 No.3557120 Report

Quoted By: >>3557124

>>3557112
Why can imaging resource get em5 pixel shift to out resolve 80MP medium format an dp review can't figure out how to clean the vaseline off their entry level lenses?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2019 02:43:37 No.3557124 Report

Quoted By: >>3557126 >>3557128

>>3557120
>Why can imaging resource get em5 pixel shift to out resolve 80MP medium format
>JPEG
mft cameras apply aggressive sharpening in jpeg to offset their mini sensor format. High resolution FF and MF cameras have shit jpeg engines due to the amount of data to process, the need to hold max fps, and nobody who owns one shoots jpeg any way.

Guess which one IR uses for tests?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2019 02:45:53 No.3557126 Report

Quoted By: >>3557147

>>3557124
Both jpeg and raw you absolute fucking retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2019 02:50:58 No.3557128 Report

Quoted By: >>3557147 >>3557194

>>3557124
>mft cameras apply aggressive sharpening in jpeg to offset their mini sensor format.

You're just making shit up that you think sounds good now. I shoot an EM10iii and I had to put sharpness to max to get it sharp sooc. What it did do by default was apply way too much noise filter, which o just turn completely off. You're just raging against mft now and making shit up is just making you look foolish.

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Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2019 03:32:55 No.3557147 Report

Quoted By: >>3557194

>>3557126
Their comparison tool only shows JPEG you absolute fucking retard Olympanon. And the singe clip you've posted where the em5 appeared to out resolve a D800...not MF...was JPEG.

>>3557128
>You're just making shit up that you think sounds good now.
Here you go you absolute fucking retard. It actually looks like Olympus uses aggressive sharpening AND NR in JPEG.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2019 03:46:40 No.3557155 Report

Quoted By:

>>3557084
>how am i supposed to avoid getting dust and other stuff off the lens?

If you don't have one already, get a squeeze blower to blow dust off the sensor. I like this Polaroid one: https://www.amazon.com/Polaroid-Blower-Perfomance-Silicon-Squeeze/dp/B0046UJFAG

For really stubborn dust, you can dry clean or wet clean your sensor with a swab. I use this: https://www.amazon.com/VSGO-Camera-Full-Frame-Cleaning-Cleaner/dp/B00K8MTQGY

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2019 06:34:44 No.3557191 Report

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>>3557090
RP is a good camera imo. Really like the ergonomics on it, especially for a FF.

Olympanon !!FvmuQD+4Klp

Olympanon !!FvmuQD+4Klp Sat 26 Oct 2019 06:40:45 No.3557194 Report

Quoted By: >>3557204

>>3557147

LOL, you think that's "aggressive sharpening?" As in what, ANY sharpening? Jesus Christ, me and the one or two other MFT guys (like >>3557128) on this board have absolutely broken your fucking mind. That is NOT agressive sharpening and I can vouch that Olympus default sharpening is actually weak, it's less than the default sharping on the Adobe Standard profile in LR.

You're literally out of your fucking mind to look at that picture and think that's "aggressive sharpening" vs a base RAW. Out of your fucking mind.

Olympanon !!FvmuQD+4Klp

Olympanon !!FvmuQD+4Klp Sat 26 Oct 2019 06:45:07 No.3557195 Report

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>>3557090
For $999 with all that shit that comes in the kit (assuming you got the deal from BH), that's some good shit, assuming you only want to do standard type stills. It's good they're including the adapter for free now. They weren't doing that with the other mirrorless models. Now you can easily build up a nice stable of older lenses for cheap and get a feel for what you want when you go for native glass.

Good buy, assuming you can find cheap glass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2019 07:51:06 No.3557204 Report

Quoted By: >>3557206

>>3557194
>raw is blurry as fuck
>jpeg lacks detail but is not quite as blurry
>"w-w-what sharpening???"
>t. ohlimpanon

>>3557194
>me and the one or two other MFT guys
You mean you and yourself?

>it's less than the default sharping on the Adobe Standard profile in LR.
Yet the jpeg is much sharper. PRETTY WEIRD!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2019 08:02:58 No.3557206 Report

Quoted By: >>3557208

>>3557204
>raw is blurry as fuck
>jpeg lacks detail but is not quite as blurry
>"w-w-what sharpening???"
>t. ohlimpanon

What are you even trying to imply here? This doesn't even make any sense and has nothing to do with anything I said.

>Yet the jpeg is much sharper.

Yeah wow, it's like they're not using Adobe Standard as the profile!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2019 08:09:37 No.3557208 Report

Quoted By: >>3557210

>>3557206
>What are you even trying to imply here?
That your mind is broken.

Just go back to blaming gamma profiles.

>>3557206
>Yeah wow, it's like they're not using Adobe Standard as the profile!
They are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2019 08:17:31 No.3557210 Report

Quoted By:

>>3557208

>They are.

Citation?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2019 08:21:21 No.3557211 Report

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>>3557088
is that fucking weed or am i just imagining shit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 26 Oct 2019 20:41:44 No.3557559 Report

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The sensor isn't exposed, it's under several thin layers of glass protection. When you clean your sensor, you're cleaning the glass above the sensor.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 19:21:30 No.3558116 Report

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The sensor has multiple glass (ir/uv) filters infront of it so no worries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2019 11:44:28 No.3558536 Report

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>>3557088
>sharper than olympus
>compare 1080p because you know 6k downsampled to 4k will btfo of anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2019 11:51:55 No.3558539 Report

Quoted By: >>3558541 >>3558912

>>3557084
have had a mirrorless for about a year and a half now, still haven't felt the need to clean the sensor

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2019 11:54:26 No.3558541 Report

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>>3558539
Mood

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2019 11:57:32 No.3558544 Report

Quoted By: >>3558902

>>3557084
>exposed sensor
You know it doesn't actually look like that picture by default right? It's mirrorless, not shutterless. There are shutter blades in from of the sensor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2019 22:32:21 No.3558902 Report

Quoted By:

>>3558544
Not on Sonys. The shutter only closes when you take a picture, by default the sensor is visible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2019 22:40:29 No.3558912 Report

Quoted By:

>>3558539
bought a used one recently.
sensor was dirty.
cleaned it.
took 5 minutes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2019 23:30:26 No.3558943 Report

Quoted By: >>3558954

>>3557084
the sensor isn't nearly as exposed as you think, there's a glass cover, that's quite resilient, i clean mine with 99%ipa.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2019 23:53:21 No.3558954 Report

Quoted By: >>3559073 >>3559169

>>3558943
I really wouldn't do that. There's no glass cover.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 00:18:35 No.3558965 Report

Quoted By: >>3559001

>>3557084
The top layer on the sensor is glass
Do with this knowledge what you will

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Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 01:14:09 No.3559001 Report

Quoted By: >>3559169

>>3558965
Except it's not. First layer is low pass filter on most cameras. Then it's uv glass. Both are considerably more brittle than lens glass. UV filter even more so, so take than in consideration if you use camera without aa filter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 03:20:41 No.3559073 Report

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>>3558954
Of course there's a glass cover ffs. There's more than one layer in the "stack." How do you think they do IR conversions? They remove one of the pieces of glass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 08:03:38 No.3559169 Report

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>>3558954
There is tho, I've converted a sony body to ir before, which involves removing all that glass.

>>3559001
Brittle is good, it means it's hard to scratch, and aa-less cameras don't have less protection

People here sure are dumb

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