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Film simulations

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 12:45:54 No.3750379 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>3750392 >>3750414 >>3751027

Has there ever been an actual "good" film simulation. like... I mean VSCO Film was pretty good. Hell, It works for Marcus Smith. he's done a lot of the photography for the new EA Sports 21 games. (I know he just uses VSCO pack 2, mostly "fuji superia/the other generic B&W one)

But dont even get started on the con that is Mastin Labs.
But what about you guys? whats your opinion on the matter

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 13:00:08 No.3750383 Report

Quoted By: >>3750385 >>3750392

Fujifilm Classic Negative, Acros, and Classic Chrome are the only good film simulations.

VSCO was never good and you weren't either if you thought it was.

Delete this thread you trashjuice drinking cum warrior.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 13:05:29 No.3750385 Report

Quoted By: >>3750387 >>3750388

>>3750383
top kek

>posts on an anime image bored about generic JPEG filters on a fuji camera

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 13:14:36 No.3750387 Report

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>>3750385
What is your point. You're doing the same thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 13:15:12 No.3750388 Report

Quoted By: >>3750392 >>3759738

>>3750385
You know, fuji's film sitmualtions goes well beyond generic JPEG filters:

https://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2020/08/18/fujifilm-film-simulations-definitive-guide

And if I'd have to say myself, they are pretty good. Idk about VSCO, photo on cover looks decent, but probably if you wanna have faithful film image: shoot film.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 13:34:34 No.3750392 Report

Quoted By: >>3750395 >>3750398 >>3750447 >>3750566

>>3750379
VSCO are the only people I've seen don't properly, they get all their sims from using a colorimeter and color calibration card on actual prints from film (hence why there's no Kodachrome) to create not only curves but complete look up tables and color profiles. If you want objectively the closest to film colors you can get, there's no other option.

I would add though that I don't think their camera specific color profiles for using with their sims are worth the bytes they're stored on, just use a color calibration card when shooting and use the standard presets.

They also didn't put in much work on film grain simulation.

>>3750383
You're an idiot, even Fuji admits their film sims aren't made to look like actual film.

>>3750388
>Fuji isn't just filters
>Proceeds to demonstrate that they know nothing beyond the absolute basics of Photoshop and don't know how to create a color profile

Fucking keks, what do you expect from a guy that shoots jpeg. Listen to this guy and you're a fucking moron.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 13:47:51 No.3750395 Report

Quoted By: >>3750400 >>3750409

>>3750392
You have Aspergers and I do not engage the mentally ill except to mock them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 13:51:43 No.3750398 Report

Quoted By: >>3750409

>>3750392
you set up this thread as gay ops to shit on fuji, don't you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 13:55:11 No.3750400 Report

Quoted By: >>3750402 >>3750424

>>3750395
>You have Aspergers
argues with strangers on the internet thinking it means any significance in his life.

Dude. I honestly feel pity for you :(

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 13:56:32 No.3750402 Report

Quoted By: >>3750403 >>3750409

>>3750400
I'm not arguing with anyone, I'm making declarative statements about people on the spectrum

>8 posts, 5 posters

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 13:59:23 No.3750403 Report

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>>3750402
Whole thread is astroturfed bait

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 14:08:10 No.3750409 Report

Quoted By: >>3750412

>>3750395
>gets shown up as speaking bullshit

>YeH wElL yOuRe a ReTaRd

absolutely pathetic dude, you could have just admitted you learnt something today instead.

>>3750398
fuji posters shit on themselves, see above.

>>3750402
>admitting that you don't even have an argument against what I said, you're just upset that I did.

that's fucking sad dude, talk to a therapist

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 14:10:51 No.3750412 Report

Quoted By: >>3750419

>>3750409
I'm not interested in arguing with you, I am interested in mocking you. I think the child gloves your family used when discussing your disability (which ultimately led to your parents divorce in 2004) put you at a severe disadvantage for recognizing when you're bottoming.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 14:13:13 No.3750414 Report

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>>3750379
OP pic edits look pleasing but they don’t look like film. This is how most of the presets are. I think you need to really edit pic by pic to get a really filmic look.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 14:16:43 No.3750419 Report

Quoted By: >>3750422 >>3750424

>>3750412
>I'm not interested in arguing with you

You mean you don't have a counter argument, and that's upset you.

>Some fantasy larping about who I and my family are

You really should talk to a therapist.

I'm not interested in mocking you, I'm interested in helping you, and everone else in this community, hence why I gave a useful answer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 14:19:52 No.3750422 Report

Quoted By: >>3750425

>>3750419
What part of being a worthless bit of entertainment for people who are not on the spectrum do you not understand?

14 posts, 6 posters, keep dancing for me you ridiculous limp-wristed puppy fucker. I am not engaging with your "argument" as I am an established photographer and do not care about FiLm SiMuLaTiOn AcCuRacY, I am here to rip wide your calloused cheeks and shoot forth a load between.

You are a fag. A gay. An ornery bottom. I will cleave thee fro and waste my seed.

Go die.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 14:21:50 No.3750424 Report

Quoted By: >>3750429

>>3750419
>You mean you don't have a counter argument, and that's upset you.

>>3750400
>argues with strangers on the internet thinking it means any significance in his life.

You know, I don't think that guy should go to therapist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 14:22:35 No.3750425 Report

Quoted By: >>3750428

>>3750422
Why are you posting here?

You said you've come to mock me, but all you've done so far is announce your intentions to mock me?

Why are you in this thread?

You seem VERY upset, as I've already suggested, talk to a therapist, I think they could really help you, you've clearly got a LOT of unresolved issues.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 14:25:48 No.3750428 Report

Quoted By: >>3750432

>>3750425
I have been quite clear that I am here to shoot a sticky load between your embarassed and hairy yet girlish thighs while videographing the entire corpulent act with my Fujifilm X100V camera as the battery warms my hand for the post-coitus fist insertion that shall both pain and please your hole.

I suggest you put my cock in your mouth and make gurgling sounds gurgrugalrgaglaglagsl.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 14:26:06 No.3750429 Report

Quoted By: >>3750439

>>3750424
Only one of those replies is mine, but I'm welcome to debate/argument over the question on hand regarding film simulations.

If you think it's worthwhile to argue off-topic on a hobbyist board, then I'll do all I can to implore you to get help with whatever it is that's upset you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 14:29:00 No.3750432 Report

Quoted By: >>3750434

>>3750428
I'm confused, do you want to mock me or have sex with me? It sounds like you have a lot of pent up sexual frustration regarding me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 14:30:36 No.3750434 Report

Quoted By:

>>3750432
I want to commit sodomy upon your decidedly male body and then leave you crumpled on the floor for your single mom Janet to find.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 14:37:03 No.3750439 Report

Quoted By:

>>3750429
Idk, film chemistry and digital sensors work in different way. I don't understand why would you want turn one to another, wher both are avaiable.

You can still buy portra, and you will be able for quite some time. You can buy film slr and their lenses. They are quite cheap, and due to their sharpness, way of rendering colors and optical imprefection are renderingn images differently.

When I apply film simulation to my photo, I don't think about faithfulness. I just wanna have decent starting point when editing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 14:45:19 No.3750443 Report

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If only the mods took shitposting outside of /b/ as seriously as they take threats of sodomy against nophotos

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 14:50:32 No.3750447 Report

Quoted By: >>3750451 >>3750492

>>3750392
Thanks for this, and good riddance to whoever was ruining the thread with their projected insecurities. Is there any of the VSCO packs you'd recommend in particular?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 14:55:08 No.3750451 Report

Quoted By: >>3750460

>>3750447
i like the portra400 preset on pack 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 15:03:22 No.3750460 Report

Quoted By: >>3750467

>>3750451
Yeah the original VSCO pack looked good from what I saw. Then again I never actually applied any of the presets as I only shoot film. I wonder why VSCO looted to social only?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 15:10:08 No.3750467 Report

Quoted By: >>3750470

>>3750460
No idea. there's no information on it anywhere. but other then their FAQ, they did a pretty good job purging all their relation to VSCO film (taking down their youtube vids, etc)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 15:11:05 No.3750468 Report

Quoted By: >>3750474

>all these deleted posts of OP revealing himself to be samefagging
lole still 6 posters

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 15:13:55 No.3750469 Report

Quoted By: >>3750471 >>3750713

I got all packs from 1 to 7. After trying other simulations, i've found VSCO to be most consistent and real compared to actual film scans. Hell I even applied presets to some scans and it made them a lot more punchy.
Only other I found quite good was RNI films, but still testing that one out. So yeah VSCO is still best, also they recently released kodakchrome for mobile check that one out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 15:16:04 No.3750470 Report

Quoted By:

>>3750467
Sorry I deleted that post for a typo and didn’t repost. Yeah it’s like they never made presets...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 15:18:41 No.3750471 Report

Quoted By:

>>3750469
RNI has got some good presets. But as you said yourself, I find the consictancy to be off for sure. some pics definetly need heavy tweaking with RNI

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 15:28:37 No.3750474 Report

Quoted By: >>3750476

>>3750468
You’re a clown

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 15:32:42 No.3750476 Report

Quoted By: >>3750485 >>3750492

>>3750474
>samefags while trying to validate his vsco purchase to strangers on the internet
>I'M the clown
top kek, keep up the show

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 15:45:33 No.3750485 Report

Quoted By: >>3750488

>>3750476
You’re not responding to OP right now you big clownshoe

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 15:52:29 No.3750488 Report

Quoted By: >>3750489

>>3750485
Yes I am hahaha

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 15:57:43 No.3750489 Report

Quoted By:

>>3750488
Legit sad

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 16:00:06 No.3750492 Report

Quoted By: >>3750507

>>3750476
>how dare half a dozen people have a conversation and not listen to my autistic outbursts

you're coming across as super needy babe, there's no need to be mad that no-one listens to you, just work on educating yourself and offering valuable posts.

>>3750447
All the VSCO packs are good for different things, I find myself using the instant film pack quite a lot for social media posts, whereas I use fuji reversal films more often in work for clients.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 16:22:04 No.3750507 Report

Quoted By: >>3750510

>>3750492
>All the VSCO packs are good for different things, I find myself using the instant film pack quite a lot for social media posts, whereas I use fuji reversal films more often in work for clients.
Stop roleplaying. You don't even use social media. You're a loner without a cause.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 16:29:10 No.3750510 Report

Quoted By: >>3750530

>>3750507
>you’re a loner without a cause

says the psychzoid calling samefag when he’s mad lel

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 16:44:06 No.3750530 Report

Quoted By: >>3750531

>>3750510
hes right, you know. you dont have clients.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 16:44:52 No.3750531 Report

Quoted By: >>3750547

>>3750530
Again anon, you’re not responding to one person.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 16:57:29 No.3750547 Report

Quoted By: >>3750568

>>3750531
Sure I am you autistic faggot. I'm going to fill your hairy cheeks with my fat wad of cum.

Go kill yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 17:17:32 No.3750566 Report

Quoted By: >>3750569 >>3759750

>>3750392
>VSCO are the only people I've seen don't properly, they get all their sims from using a colorimeter and color calibration card on actual prints from film (hence why there's no Kodachrome) to create not only curves but complete look up tables and color profiles. If you want objectively the closest to film colors you can get, there's no other option.

There are several companies that do just that. Replichrome, RNI, DXO/Nik's Analog Efex Pro. VSCO was, in my opinion at least, the least accurate. They were very clearly trying to cultivate that "VSCO look" so they could sell you their monthly subscription service on their mobile app and launch their thingken man's instagram. Too bad it backfired with the whole vsco girl phenomena of 2018, kek.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 17:22:10 No.3750568 Report

Quoted By:

>>3750547
You sound upset anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 17:23:11 No.3750569 Report

Quoted By: >>3750570

>>3750566
Lol if you really think Analog Efex looks good

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 17:24:10 No.3750570 Report

Quoted By:

>>3750569
Did I say that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 20:41:23 No.3750713 Report

Quoted By: >>3751088

>>3750469
have any samples?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 06:49:15 No.3751027 Report

Quoted By:

>>3750379
Film simulation is fake and gay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 09:53:31 No.3751081 Report

Quoted By: >>3753513

So that settles it, VSCO is the best option and Fuji users need to see a fucking therapist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 10:10:36 No.3751088 Report

Quoted By:

>>3750713
of course he doesnt

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2020 14:02:08 No.3753513 Report

Quoted By: >>3753520

>>3751081
Your crazy if you think VSCO is the best option. RNI is a hell of a lot better for faithful reproduction of film stocks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2020 14:20:55 No.3753520 Report

Quoted By: >>3753549

>>3753513
>using digital film scanners for profiling instead of wet emulsion

Absolutely haram, and aimed at plebs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2020 15:25:18 No.3753549 Report

Quoted By:

>>3753520
>Trying to do a faithful reproduction at all

Absolutely unbased. All the presets like this just give you a super high contrast, green mess. The best presets are the ones that do they’re own, pleasing take on portra.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2020 02:38:51 No.3756900 Report

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Vsco is for mentally ill fags

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Nov 2020 12:41:58 No.3759738 Report

Quoted By:

>>3750388
>Finally, we come to Fujifilm's monochrome film simulations, led by the gorgeous. ACROS profile. ACROS is the only monochromatic Film Simulation that mimics a specific family of Fuji's film, specifically the Neopan ACROS series. Many people don't realize that traditional black and white films responded differently to different parts of the color spectrum. These color-response differences combine with the details of each film's tone curve to result in a unique "look" for each emulsion. Changing the color mode from RGB to Grayscale in Photoshop just removes the color information from the image, leaving behind the luminance or brightness data. The contrast and effective color sensitivity will depend a lot on the characteristics of the color original, but in general, this luminance-only conversion tends to produce bland-looking images. You can of course just bump up the contrast in Photoshop, or even use the Curves control to create a custom tone curve, but I've personally never been as happy with the results I could achieve as I was with the black and white prints I made in the darkroom (many) years ago.
I audibly kek'd. Dunning Kruger off the charts, imagine acting like you know everything without even knowing to use black and white under adjustments instead of grayscale. Or an adjustment layer for non-destructive edition. What a clown.
These people are probably the reason Lightroom gets so much hype for doing things Photoshop was able to do long before, Lightroom basically spoonfeeds you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Nov 2020 13:15:09 No.3759750 Report

Quoted By:

>>3750566
>vsco girl phenomena of 2018
elab, I'm not familiar with this at all
only learned they had tried to become some sophisticated instagram when Natalie Biden's VSCO profile started getting posted everywhere following the Hunter laptop leaks

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 13 Nov 2020 15:24:38 No.3759771 Report

Quoted By: >>3759796

I've got both the RNI 5 All Films Pro and the 7 VSCO packs plus some extras. In my very limited time as a hobbyist photographer with equal limited knowledge, I've been able to get results that come wonderfully close to the bunch of pictures my family keeps. Of course, modern lenses being noticeable sharper than old, consumer tier lenses will make a difference but the feel is there. Then again, I might be visually illiterate, but damn if I don't enjoy tinkering with presets, curves and whatnot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Nov 2020 16:35:06 No.3759796 Report

Quoted By:

>>3759771
This looks nothing like film

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