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Never had one break down on me. But it does depend on which type you are getting. Older mirrorless have batteries that don't last that long. The newer models have a better camera interface and software. Older types tend to give pictures in the dark that are a bit yellow-y which can be tricky to fix. They drop in value fast so you can get a good bargain if you don't buy the newest of the newest.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Nov 2020 22:05:33 No.3758121 Report

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>>3758112
Literally the only reason to get a Sony is if you think the megapixels and brand combo of the A7R lineup are worth the overprice, imo.

Sage

Sage Tue 10 Nov 2020 22:06:32 No.3758123 Report

Quoted By: >>3758130

>>3758119
My NEX-7 had a better interface that my A73

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Nov 2020 22:07:39 No.3758124 Report

Quoted By: >>3758125 >>3758130

>>3758112
Depends on you. I really think every camera sucks! As for me, I have an A7III and currently use it most often, although I think it was designed by monkeys for monkeys.
Sailing dust on the sensor is probably the most significant concern that will affect you most indisputably here. With most mirrorless cameras.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Nov 2020 22:08:51 No.3758125 Report

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>>3758124
>Sailing dust
*Regular dust

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Nov 2020 22:14:50 No.3758128 Report

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They have very different consumers in mind. Sony is much more interesting for people doing paid jobs. Fujifilm is for hobbyists

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Nov 2020 22:28:19 No.3758130 Report

Quoted By: >>3758133 >>3758172 >>3763620

>>3758115
>just get which ever is cheaper
this but make sure you factor in lenses

>>3758119
>Older mirrorless have batteries that don't last that long
Batteries are a consumable and easily replaceable

>>3758119
>The newer models have a better camera interface
You're spending too much time in the menus if you have an opinion on how good/bad they are, this is probably why your batteries don't last long

>>3758119
>Older types tend to give pictures in the dark that are a bit yellow-y which can be tricky to fix.
All that time in the menus and you didn't change any of the colour settings which would help this?

>>3758123
>My NEX-7 had a better interface that my A73
Who cares? take some fucking photos, the menus are for gearfags

>>3758124
>dust on the sensor
>With most mirrorless cameras.
This is a function of your grotty lifestyle and poor lens exchange practice, clean your mom's basement and don't change lens during a dust storm and you won't have this issue

>t. Nikon boomer

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Nov 2020 22:31:22 No.3758133 Report

Quoted By: >>3758149

>>3758130
I forgot that everything that is not a clean room should never be seen by a camera.
This is the other extreme to your faggotry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Nov 2020 22:51:24 No.3758144 Report

Quoted By: >>3763516 >>3777574

>>3758112
the lens choices in the sony system are unmatched. but they're made for faggots who's only measure of quality is performance on a spec sheet and mtf charts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Nov 2020 22:56:57 No.3758149 Report

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>>3758133
>This is the other extreme to your faggotry.
Sounds like this is more to do with your faggotry desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Nov 2020 23:37:41 No.3758170 Report

Quoted By: >>3758223

>>3758112
>Are sony cameras really as bad as everyone here says?

Idk, we have here good amount of insufferable shills who said they are better than sex.

But regardless, no they arent bad. For some uses sony is better, for other fuji, canon, or nikon.

Do your own reserach, dont be a brandfag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Nov 2020 23:41:41 No.3758172 Report

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>>3758130
Naah the menus, colour and battery life do not bother me, else I would have dropped Sony a long time ago. I did mention it because people that aren't used to earlier Sony camera's might be put off by it.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Nov 2020 00:35:54 No.3758191 Report

Quoted By: >>3758223

>he doesn’t know the value of Sony’s are picking them up for cheap 2-4 years later on the used market to repurpose them for DIY imaging projects.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Nov 2020 00:53:28 No.3758198 Report

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>>3758112
Go and fiddle with both, its the only way you're gonna be able to form your own educated opinion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Nov 2020 01:39:16 No.3758208 Report

Quoted By: >>3758223

>>3758114
>build quality are trash
they specifically made their $3000 camera that way so it feels the same way as your $5 Neewer chinkshit accessories off amazon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Nov 2020 01:47:50 No.3758210 Report

Quoted By: >>3758223 >>3764242

>>3758112
fuji faggots just get triggered because their little apsc toys cost as much as a good full frame sony and a a6000 that mogs the shit out of their vintage larp junk costs about 1/3rd the price. also their lenses suck ass so of course they are butthurt

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Nov 2020 01:51:38 No.3758211 Report

Quoted By: >>3758224 >>3764242 >>3772083

Fuji cameras are over-priced to create some kind of brand identity in the same way Apple and Leica have that exceeds their value as a actual tool. So when you have Sony providing the best tech for the price it sets off people who are more fashion-influenced in how they choose their cameras.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Nov 2020 02:42:43 No.3758223 Report

Quoted By: >>3758226 >>3774847

>>3758170
This, so much this.

>>3758191
>nick offerman and amy schumer
What show is this? Is it any good?
Parks and Rec was cool until they completely pozzed it. Went from cool comedy to preachy propaganda.

>>3758208
kek

>>3758210
The lenses aren't bad (fucking expensive though) but you're not wrong about the rest. The coolest thing about Fuji is their look and the easy to set knobs. Also 10 bit 4K, but that's no good when it overheats after a few minutes of recording. I like the look of the B&W photos from them posted on this board but I bet pretty much any camera could achieve that look, just add some grain in post.
Fujis are toys with built-in instagram filters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Nov 2020 02:43:48 No.3758224 Report

Quoted By: >>3771310

>>3758211
>the best tech for the price
Are you sure that's not Nikon with their Z cameras?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Nov 2020 02:44:44 No.3758226 Report

Quoted By: >>3758228

>>3758223
>reee liberal propaganda reeeeeeeeee

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Nov 2020 02:47:02 No.3758228 Report

Quoted By: >>3758230

>>3758226
I don't mind the show having a slant, I mind that it got in the way of good writing. Did you even watch it or are you just a shitstirrer? It underwent heavy flanderization.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Nov 2020 03:01:28 No.3758230 Report

Quoted By: >>3758232

>>3758228
there there, I'm sorry he lost, but you'll survive

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Nov 2020 03:09:30 No.3758232 Report

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>>3758230
No, he won and that was his bane, he was too inexperienced and fucked up. He could never recover from Ice Town.
Just shut up if you didn't see the show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Nov 2020 03:24:45 No.3758237 Report

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>>3758112
>Are sony cameras really as bad as everyone here says? Should I just get a fuji instead?
All modern cameras have their pros and cons.
I have a Sony amongst others.
I don’t love it, but it does amazing action shots with its auto focus.
Result is I have a few brands of cameras for different applications.
Try some out and see what works for you.
I won’t try and sway your decision with what I use, it’s not relevant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Nov 2020 06:21:40 No.3758294 Report

Quoted By: >>3800744

>>3758112
No modern camera of any brand is bad. Get whatever you find most comfortable to use and fits in your budget.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Nov 2020 08:25:33 No.3758332 Report

Quoted By: >>3800747

Yes. Pic related.

They are expensive, poorly built and unreliable. With Nikon Z6ii and Z5 in the market buying sony in 2020 is like carrying a "retarded kid" sign.
Hell, even EOS R are a million timed better in every way but the specsheet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Nov 2020 08:32:22 No.3758337 Report

Quoted By: >>3758658

>>3758112
The a7iii, a7R4, either a9, and a7siii are all worth buying. I don't think I'd get anything else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Nov 2020 23:11:32 No.3758658 Report

Quoted By: >>3771340

>>3758337
Why not r3?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Nov 2020 09:48:26 No.3759058 Report

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>>3758112
They’re boring to use and you will look boring using one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Nov 2020 12:12:30 No.3759079 Report

Quoted By: >>3759151 >>3759164

You get Sony for the image quality (both photo and video), dynamic range, autofocus, and more importantly lens selection.

There are no other brands who can match Sony on all these aspects at the same time.

Canon is probably the closest, except for lens selection.

Say you want a f/2.8 zoom lens. You either have a choice of a 2k lens, or 800 USD one from Tamron. Image quality is almost as good but you're sacrificing build quality and additional buttons on the side.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Nov 2020 12:24:15 No.3759080 Report

Quoted By: >>3759089

If you don't need full frame, then Fuji is king of APS-C. If you want full frame photos and good video then A7III is still a good choice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Nov 2020 12:50:15 No.3759089 Report

Quoted By: >>3759091 >>3759160

>>3759080
Looking at spec sheets and reviews i almost feel like the Panasonic S1 is better for video, unless you absolutely need low light performance.

Myself i went with fuji (xt2) because of its small size and controls as a pure photo camera and i was happy to find out that its video capabilities are no slouch either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Nov 2020 12:52:36 No.3759091 Report

Quoted By: >>3760597

>>3759089
>Panasonic S1
garbage autofocus tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Nov 2020 13:01:25 No.3759093 Report

Quoted By: >>3759094

>>3758112
Only about a billion professionals disagree with the /p/ autistic opinion.

Hurr canon bad is such a silly Redd it argument.

I love canon, always have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Nov 2020 13:06:59 No.3759094 Report

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>>3759093
Who? Posts here show quite obvious, whether it's own own opinion or a general one from /p/, /r/... or billion professionals.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 12 Nov 2020 16:12:24 No.3759151 Report

Quoted By: >>3759162 >>3759164 >>3759225

>>3759079
>Tamron
>-4 EVs in corner
>Slower AF than fuji lenses
>under 30 lpmm in corners

I know you are so convinced in defending this lens, but it's optical performance is average. It main atraction is price.

Shitton of other standard zooms are better, but you have to pay for quality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Nov 2020 16:14:52 No.3759153 Report

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Sonz is a shitty company with shitty business practices, from their movies to their hardware and their cameras specifically are underwhelming compared to the hype, their buttons are about as ergonomic a brick made from pressed wood screws, their menus and button placement is outright dogshit and I am pretty sure my old Win98 computer booted up faster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Nov 2020 16:24:04 No.3759160 Report

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>>3759089
>the Panasonic S1 is better for video
That is if you have a key grip working with you all the time.

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Anonymous Thu 12 Nov 2020 16:25:15 No.3759162 Report

Quoted By: >>3789468

>>3759151
Also that bokeh. Ugh....

It's okay glass. Plenty sharp in center and cheap. But pretty unspectacular if you take out price. Sony also isn't really stellar in anything. It's lead over competition is thin, and basicially in af only, since all other competitors has better ibis, comparable dynamic range and even better video modes.

But really, brandfagging is stupid, people who say sony has anything head and shoulders above other brands suck sony dick balls deep and you can take great pictures with any camera made in last 15 years.

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Anonymous Thu 12 Nov 2020 16:26:54 No.3759164 Report

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>>3759079
>>3759151
Or, you could just pay USD 900 for a fabulous Canon EF 24-70 2.8 II in used but mint condition.

I was actually curious to get one of these Tamron lenses, but the first examples I finally got my hands on cured me. And still you'll find almost exclusively adulation among reviewers.

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Anonymous Thu 12 Nov 2020 16:47:53 No.3759184 Report

Quoted By: >>3798791

I'd always wondered why all the snoy.shills pumped Tamron lenses.
>Just connected the dots today. Intradasting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Nov 2020 18:18:23 No.3759225 Report

Quoted By: >>3772105

>>3759151
Check the reviews for the 70-180/m f/2.8 from Tamron.

It has one of the fastest AF in the industry, and may even be the fastest focusing lens out there for stills.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Nov 2020 18:28:29 No.3759226 Report

Quoted By: >>3759230 >>3759233 >>3759235

Also Sigma has a higher end alternative with a 24-70 f/2.8 for Sony (and the L mount) which matches Sony's. It goes for 1k.

You won't find these for Nikon and Canon unless they open their mount support.

That's why Sony wins all day every day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Nov 2020 18:42:03 No.3759230 Report

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>>3759226
>which matches Sony's
That's no prize compared to Nikon F and Canon EF that adapt perfectly to their mirrorless with the minor drawback of not exhausting image stabilization to their full extend.

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Anonymous Thu 12 Nov 2020 18:48:37 No.3759233 Report

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>>3759226
>That's why Sony wins all day every day.

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Anonymous Thu 12 Nov 2020 18:50:53 No.3759235 Report

Quoted By: >>3759314

>>3759226
>You won't find these for Nikon and Canon
An E to Z adapter exists, so technically speaking you can use those on Nikon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Nov 2020 20:30:48 No.3759269 Report

Quoted By: >>3759305 >>3759323

>>3758112
No. They are fucking awesome. They have never malfunction or broke on me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Nov 2020 21:31:58 No.3759305 Report

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>>3759269
Thanks Mr. Sony Man

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Nov 2020 21:47:34 No.3759314 Report

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>>3759235
t. someone that never used IT

It' trash believe me

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Anonymous Thu 12 Nov 2020 22:03:43 No.3759323 Report

Quoted By: >>3759904

>>3759269
just don't attempt to use a snoy for pics or vidi and it'll last a few days beyond the warranty.
>pic extremely related. 20k actuations, shutter shits the bed.
>sony -- expect.disappointment

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 13 Nov 2020 19:37:22 No.3759877 Report

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>>3758112

You should get Fujifilm Astalift.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Nov 2020 20:50:04 No.3759904 Report

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>>3759323
>ivan bustor
Solid wedding shots there. The couple pictures sometimes have a touch of awkwardness on the part of the couples, but I think the photographer is doing his job right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2020 22:02:39 No.3760597 Report

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>>3759091
>Panasonic S1
>garbage autofocus tho
Can confirm. It’s accurate but very slow.
Also need to be pretty close for eye af.
Hopefully firmware updates next month help a lot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2020 02:14:22 No.3760695 Report

Quoted By: >>3763515

How are the Fujis (bodies and fast lenses) in low light (think churches and indoor salons)?

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Anonymous Thu 19 Nov 2020 23:59:01 No.3763501 Report

Quoted By: >>3764133 >>3795917

>>3758112
It is depends on what do you intend to do,
for me, I almost decided to buy the Sony A7RIV as landscape photographer
Fair dynamic range on 62MP (Maybe the next camera)
>but I decided to remain a Nikon user
Sony still suxx with ergonomics
I also wish to have a camera with robust video capabilities
which is kind of low/standard for that model
The old Z7 and the upcoming Z7II is best of class in weather sealing!
As I used to own a D850 for almost 3 years, the Z7II is basically the same, but in MILC fom + secong generation
>but would really like to own the new awesome 12(twelve)-24f2.8 lens!!!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Nov 2020 01:06:23 No.3763515 Report

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>>3760695
I cant speak for the lenses as i only use vintage glass because im poor but my XT2 holds up greatly in moody indoor light, you're not gonna get the best sharpness in the world but the colours are very nice even when you crank up the iso.
The newer models should perform even better due to dual native iso.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Nov 2020 01:07:03 No.3763516 Report

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>>3758144
lmao this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Nov 2020 07:33:15 No.3763620 Report

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>>3758130
>poor lens exchange practice
Yes I also only change my lenses inside a dust free vacuum chamber you fucking dumb faggot. It makes perfect sense that you are a no photo, probably haven't even found a clean enough environment to take off the body cap your mirrorless meme came with yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Nov 2020 12:36:43 No.3764061 Report

Quoted By: >>3764131

Are the Snoy camcorders fine?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Nov 2020 17:09:02 No.3764131 Report

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>>3764061
It depends on what your expectations are. I used a Sony FDR-AX53 for a while. It's stabilization was nice but image quality is lacking if it get's even a little dark. Also controls aren't that great, almost everything is automatic. If you want something that is better look into the AX700 but they are pricier and bigger. Whatever you have your eyes on I would test it first before buying one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Nov 2020 17:13:11 No.3764133 Report

Quoted By: >>3771315 >>3771327 >>3772117

>>3763501
I like the ergonomics of the a7rii. My canon had the worst, changing iso on the fly was impossible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Nov 2020 18:16:31 No.3764152 Report

Quoted By: >>3764235

>>3758112
I've shot Sony professionally for three years now. My only slight gripe is shooting under fluorescent light can sometimes be a challenge in editing. Both my a7iii and a7Riv can cast orange pretty hard, which makes correcting darker skin tones and reflective fabrics challenge. Setting white balance helps, but it's not a universal fix. I never had this issue when I shot Canon. That said I don't have any regrets switching systems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Nov 2020 21:14:36 No.3764228 Report

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>>3758112
panasonic GH5s is pretty sturdy, i ride my bike with it around my neck and it bumps into the handlebars pretty often. not a scuff on it and works great even fell off my bike with it once and nothing happened to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Nov 2020 21:32:00 No.3764235 Report

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>>3764152
Same, I've been shooting the system since the a9 came out. I'm on an a7r4 now.

I do find that bright orange colors come out too washed, especially when using flash. But a quick hsl adjustment fixes it. The DR on these cameras is insane so you can save almost anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Nov 2020 21:44:16 No.3764242 Report

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>>3758210
>>3758211
fuck off samefag bitch

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Nov 2020 22:48:39 No.3764277 Report

Quoted By:

>>3758112
Yes.

t. /p/rofessional arguer

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Nov 2020 08:35:04 No.3767294 Report

Quoted By: >>3767297

Bump for the only brand that actually makes cameras

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Nov 2020 08:38:48 No.3767296 Report

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>>3758112
They're cheap Chink/Thai shit.
Make of that what you will.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Nov 2020 08:38:58 No.3767297 Report

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>>3767294
I hope you get banned, faggot.
Being the mirror image of the Fuji tranny shill is disgusting, bumping threads with nothing to add to the conversation and making the board worse to spite the tranny.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 12:21:06 No.3768983 Report

Quoted By: >>3768986 >>3769002 >>3769140 >>3777403

Anyone here know the best hybrid for photo and video? I'm coming from GH5 as was only video before.

Looking at the S1, XT-4 or A7III

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 12:25:36 No.3768986 Report

Quoted By: >>3768991

>>3768983
A7iii all day, every day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 12:29:30 No.3768991 Report

Quoted By: >>3769002

>>3768986
Working in the wedding industry if IBIS wasn't important for me for video then the A7III would be an absolute no brainer. I'm 80% video and 20% photo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 12:45:04 No.3769002 Report

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>>3768991
>>3768983
As much as I love Fuji and the X-T4 really is a beast of a camera there are still some issues mainly revolving to the amounts of available lenses.
It's definitely the best hybrid in that list but towards the video side the Snoy and Panasonic might be better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 16:41:50 No.3769140 Report

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>>3768983
A7sIII is the best photo/video hybrid without even considering lens availability. The AF in video is ridiculous. Do you need more than 12mp? Most people want more than 12mp, myself included. In which case the A7iii is the best on that list for its AF, and lens availability from the most expensive options down to super budget options.

Also the A7c has better AF than the A7iii as its 4th gen. People get upset when you even say A7c however.

Maybe the Canon R6 is also one to consider? 10-bit 4K 60 iirc. Not sure on the quality. Check reviews. I think the AF is more updated too over third gen Sony. Less lens availability.

iirc Sony 4th gen and Canon are at similar levels, then there is a power gap, then Sony 3rd gen, then a power gap, then everybody else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2020 21:11:40 No.3770915 Report

Quoted By: >>3770919 >>3771049

Canon R6 or Sony a73/a7r3 for photography?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2020 21:15:39 No.3770919 Report

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>>3770915
Depends, the R6 has AF closer to Sony 4th gen. Depends on what lenses you’d be looking at I think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2020 21:32:44 No.3770934 Report

Quoted By: >>3771311

>>3758112
I mean if you like cold ass colours go for it

t. canonfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Dec 2020 00:00:41 No.3771049 Report

Quoted By: >>3771147

>>3770915
Without further knowledge, stochastics say there are 8 options.

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Anonymous Thu 03 Dec 2020 02:08:06 No.3771140 Report

Quoted By: >>3771145 >>3798810

Its roots are Minolta, a second-class Japanese manufacturer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Dec 2020 02:16:14 No.3771145 Report

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>>3771140
>second-class
Back in the day professionals used the SRT-101 a lot, don't tell me you didn't have at least one of your yearbook photos taken in one. You're excused only if you were underageb& in the early days of this site.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Dec 2020 02:17:48 No.3771147 Report

Quoted By: >>3771151

>>3771049
>stochastics
you're trying to sound smart and failing, using words you don't understand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Dec 2020 02:22:38 No.3771151 Report

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>>3771147
>taking a troll reply at face value
Sasuga anon, you're making this slow day seem a lot more lively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Dec 2020 05:42:44 No.3771310 Report

Quoted By: >>3771316

>>3758224
Yes, Nikon Z is currently the worst mirrorless system, sad.

Hopefully it changes soon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Dec 2020 05:45:55 No.3771311 Report

Quoted By: >>3771313

>>3770934
Sony has cold colors or Fuji does?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Dec 2020 05:48:32 No.3771313 Report

Quoted By:

>>3771311
Yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Dec 2020 05:49:35 No.3771315 Report

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>>3764133
What Canon did you have, a rebel?

The ergonomics on the A7RI and II are infamously shite, the worse things about Sony are ergonomics and UI

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Dec 2020 05:50:08 No.3771316 Report

Quoted By: >>3774120

>>3771310
How so?
The image quality of the cameras is superb, and so are the ergonomics. You also get access to the full Nikon F mount range with an official adapter that makes them work just like in a Nikon F camera.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Dec 2020 06:13:07 No.3771327 Report

Quoted By: >>3771341 >>3772079

>>3764133
>changing iso on the fly
kek who even needs that
sounds to me like it's user error, reminds me of a guy who thought he couldn't back button focus on his T3

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Dec 2020 06:47:27 No.3771340 Report

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>>3758658
>Why not r3?
Because it has the same sensor as the rII and costs a lot more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Dec 2020 06:53:07 No.3771341 Report

Quoted By: >>3771432

>>3771327
>kek who even needs that
someone who shoots things in changing conditions? like action etc? its utterly common to bind front command wheel to iso

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Dec 2020 11:13:44 No.3771432 Report

Quoted By:

>>3771341
>Imagine not having at least 3 custom dials

t. Sony gang

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Dec 2020 17:23:51 No.3771568 Report

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>>3758112
as a Sony a77 user, I can say they are really good cameras. As for the other models I am not sure.
Believe me guys, my camera has drop serveral times... mostly because some stupid kid running around. Regarding the lenses, they are fkng expensive... but they are good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 07:16:58 No.3772079 Report

Quoted By: >>3772081

>>3771327
you have never taken a picture apparently

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 07:20:57 No.3772081 Report

Quoted By:

>>3772079
You have never learned to set ISO ranges apparently.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 07:21:50 No.3772083 Report

Quoted By: >>3772085

>>3758211
Have you ever used one? The build quality and the ergonomics are quite good.
Its all about where you wanna spend your R&D.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 07:27:45 No.3772085 Report

Quoted By: >>3772087

>>3772083
>fuji ergonomics
>good
lmao those things don't even have a proper grip and people need to screw meme soft release shutter buttons into them because the design is uncomfortable as fuck.
Even the vertical grip comes with a part that fattens the regular grip.
I'd rather shoot a BMPCC rig if I'm going to need so many accessories to make it comfortable to use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 07:30:10 No.3772087 Report

Quoted By: >>3772089

>>3772085
I dunno i really like the small grip of the xt2 and the dials make changing settings very tactile and easy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 07:38:23 No.3772089 Report

Quoted By: >>3772091 >>3795902

>>3772087
Well, I guess it works if you buy a camera to play with the settings. I tend to use it to take pìctures, and Fujis are horrible to hold. Not saying Sony is all that much better though, specially the awful APS-C line and the A7C. The A9 line is decent enough I guess, almost on par with the Canon R line. Of all MILCs Nikon Z series is the best. I think the Ricoh guys are probably right about MILCs being a fad and the possibility that many people who switched to MILC will eventually return to DSLR.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 07:43:09 No.3772091 Report

Quoted By: >>3772095 >>3772097

>>3772089
Ah yes, the elusive out-of-the-box settings keeper photographer, because default is the way to go.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 07:56:47 No.3772095 Report

Quoted By: >>3772098

>>3772091
No, I'm a set and forget type of guy.
You would have never made it in the film days when unless you had an APS-C camera you couldn't change ISO in the middle of a shoot.
Even the Rebel gets an option to limit ISO.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 07:57:56 No.3772097 Report

Quoted By:

>>3772091
And well, the 6D has all kinds of goodies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 07:58:51 No.3772098 Report

Quoted By: >>3772102

>>3772095
I shoot film mainly but okay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 08:01:32 No.3772102 Report

Quoted By: >>3772103 >>3789148

>>3772098
Then why are you compelled to manually change the ISO so often you need a dial?
You know on your film camera the only way to change ISO in the middle of a shoot is to finish the roll or to use another camera with different sensitivity film already in it.
APS cameras were super practical in that regard because they recorded magnetic information on the film so you could swap cartridges in the middle of a shoot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 08:02:41 No.3772103 Report

Quoted By: >>3772107

>>3772102
There are two more dials than the iso dial my dude.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 08:07:06 No.3772105 Report

Quoted By:

>>3759225
>Check the reviews for the 70-180/m f/2.8 from Tamron.
>It has one of the fastest AF in the industry, and may even be the fastest focusing lens out there for stills.

I have that lens. It's fine and sharp for portraits, which is what I use it for. I wanted to use it for indoor sports (if we ever have those again) but the AF just isn't up to the task like say the 70-200 GM would be. For example if you have a player running at you and you want to keep him in frame, what do you do - you zoom out, right? If you change the focal length at all with this lens, it loses track of the subject completely and has to refocus. So what happens is it becomes a 180 2.8 when I shoot sports. Which is usually fine. But it's not a great aspect of the lens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 08:08:55 No.3772107 Report

Quoted By: >>3772109

>>3772103
I mean a dial for the ISO, that was obvious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 08:09:52 No.3772109 Report

Quoted By: >>3772113

>>3772107
I know you did, you just forgot the other dials.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 08:13:52 No.3772113 Report

Quoted By: >>3772114

>>3772109
No, I had a single dial camera for some time and it was more than sufficient. Turn the dial for shutter speed, press the exposure button and turn the dial for aperture. Worked great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 08:14:54 No.3772114 Report

Quoted By: >>3772117

>>3772113
Do you know how a fuji camera looks like

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Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 08:23:20 No.3772117 Report

Quoted By: >>3772125 >>3785445

>>3772114
Had you mixed with this guy lol >>3764133
My point is that having so many dials isn't really necessary and probably a hindrance to use on the fly. I used the little information display on the bottom of the OVF on the Nikon and it was great. Index finger would press the exposure button and the thumb would operate the dial. Nikon has the best ergonomics out there. Better even than Canon. Probably tied with Pentax.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Dec 2020 08:46:31 No.3772125 Report

Quoted By: >>3773345

>>3772117
I see two dials there

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 01:38:47 No.3773122 Report

Quoted By:

>>3758112
they're not bad, just overpriced as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 15:43:38 No.3773345 Report

Quoted By: >>3774022

>>3772125
>counting the mode dial
Nice one smartass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 22:03:43 No.3773987 Report

Quoted By: >>3774014 >>3795906

>>3758112
Light is light.
Sensors are sensors.

Almost all differences between camera manufacturers are down to JPEG processing, and to an objective degree, things like autofocus and face tracking but as photography tools they're all viable if you take control.

Shoot RAW.
Learn a color managed workflow, learn lighting and profiling and get color targets and shoot at low ISO and all will yield almost identical results. Fuji is forever destined to be meme shit because of tranny sensor layout but that's a different story. That's got less to do with the brand and more to do with the brand currently trying to be "unique" but if they went and made bayer tomorrow they'd be included in the club of good equipment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 22:40:51 No.3774014 Report

Quoted By: >>3774019

>>3773987
look who woke up -- the tranny fixated latent homosexual with esteem issues. flooding /p/ with more nonsense.
>no one likes you and we immediately dismiss your sperging. meds, take more. or rope. whatever it takes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 22:50:46 No.3774019 Report

Quoted By: >>3777418

>>3774014
>everyone who doesn't like fuji trannies is the same guy
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 23:12:27 No.3774022 Report

Quoted By: >>3774023 >>3774126

>>3773345
>having a mode dial
ngmi

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Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 23:13:40 No.3774023 Report

Quoted By:

>>3774022
lmao based

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 02:43:33 No.3774120 Report

Quoted By: >>3774121

>>3771316
>An Adaptor to legacy

What, like every other competing brands new mirrorless system?

Nikon Z is the least developed, and currently worse mirrorless ecosystem. This is also evident as people choose not to adopt Z mount. Especially as the sensor is Sony anyway...

I like Nikon DSLR's the D4 and 5 and 8 series are great tools, but Z mount so far is just meh.

Canon mirrorless was shit until R5 / R6 so hopefully Nikon comes back strongly soon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 02:47:55 No.3774121 Report

Quoted By:

>>3774120
>What, like every other competing brands new mirrorless system?
You can't seriously compare third party reverse engineered adapters to the F to Z and EF to RF by Nikon and Canon.
>Especially as the sensor is Sony anyway...
lol, manufactured by Sony but designed by Nikon. Fuji sensors are Sony too and they're trash. Also the processing is by Nikon. EXSPEED and DIGIC are both top notch. Sony is awesome when it comes to stuff like animal eye AF but the actual images produced are meh and almost always unsatisfying without a ton of postprocessing.

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Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 02:57:28 No.3774126 Report

Quoted By:

>>3774022
>t. NEX-C3 shooter

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 04:46:22 No.3774847 Report

Quoted By: >>3774875

>>3758223
I'm pretty sure that's Amy Poehler, not Schumer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 05:44:41 No.3774875 Report

Quoted By:

>>3774847
You're right, I mixed up the surnames. Poehler is both in the pic and the show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 13:56:14 No.3777403 Report

Quoted By:

>>3768983
a6600 if you are not worried about the no dual slot cards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 14:43:56 No.3777418 Report

Quoted By:

>>3774019
>lol@samefag pretending to not be samefag. despite identical language & shitpoting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 14:49:44 No.3777420 Report

Quoted By:

>72 posters
>it’s the 1 guy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 21:41:52 No.3777574 Report

Quoted By:

>>3758144
desu you're right

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Anonymous Tue 15 Dec 2020 18:11:39 No.3779734 Report

Quoted By:

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Dec 2020 21:30:15 No.3780509 Report

Quoted By:

Dropped snoy for nikon when the Z6 was released. Not going back.

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Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2020 08:03:12 No.3781629 Report

Quoted By:

>this thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Dec 2020 05:43:55 No.3782664 Report

Quoted By: >>3782671 >>3782764

>>3758112
I bought a A7Siii after being hyped up by that purple youtube fag. Since then I have seen a few comparison videos where the 8k videos out of the R5 blows it the fuck out. The A7Siii sits on my shelf while I hunt down every forum thread and video comment that disparages the sony and defending it like it is my child.

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Anonymous Sun 20 Dec 2020 06:06:43 No.3782671 Report

Quoted By:

>>3782664
Be more subtle next time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Dec 2020 12:43:49 No.3782764 Report

Quoted By: >>3782839 >>3785450

>>3782664
>purple youtube fag
Camera conspiracies?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Dec 2020 16:42:26 No.3782839 Report

Quoted By:

>>3782764
nah bro i remember he had a more cringe into than the spaceship dude, anyway, what'd you say about my beloved sony!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Dec 2020 10:49:37 No.3785445 Report

Quoted By: >>3785452

>>3772117
honestly the killer feature on fuji is you can rebind practically every button and the front and back dials

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Dec 2020 11:50:49 No.3785450 Report

Quoted By:

>>3782764
Probably Gerald Undone

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Dec 2020 11:56:04 No.3785452 Report

Quoted By: >>3785515

>>3785445
You can rebind more buttons and dials on Sony, lmao, dumb ass Fuji poster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Dec 2020 16:37:50 No.3785513 Report

Quoted By:

Had a nikon, now a sony, best decision ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Dec 2020 16:41:53 No.3785515 Report

Quoted By:

>>3785452
What, because there are more buttons? Lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Dec 2020 17:12:59 No.3785520 Report

Quoted By:

>>3758112
Buy both and return the one you like less instead of listening to retarded gearfags on an autistic organic babyfood forum

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Dec 2020 18:02:28 No.3785528 Report

Quoted By: >>3785563

>>3758114
>build quality are trash
yeah nah, it's perfectly fine, above average I would say. why do people spout shit tier opinions like that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Dec 2020 18:42:13 No.3785537 Report

Quoted By:

>>3758112
yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Dec 2020 18:52:41 No.3785540 Report

Quoted By: >>3785551

If I’ve never bought a camera and never take photos what camera should I buy for a beginner like me? There’s so many it’s dizzying

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Dec 2020 20:19:04 No.3785551 Report

Quoted By:

>>3785540
What’s your budget and what kinda stuff do you want to take pics of?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Dec 2020 21:04:03 No.3785563 Report

Quoted By: >>3785619

>>3785528
Comparative build quality on Sony cameras is absolute dogshit dont even try to kid yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Dec 2020 00:04:09 No.3785615 Report

Quoted By: >>3787419

is it worth getting a $1200 lense on an a6000. Planning to get the 16-50 2.8 G lens for all around - travel mostly

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Dec 2020 00:05:42 No.3785616 Report

Quoted By:

>>3758112
>Are sony cameras really as bad as everyone here says?
No. It's just more of the dumbass "POPULAR BAD" mentality.
>Should I just get a fuji instead?
If you want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Dec 2020 00:16:48 No.3785619 Report

Quoted By: >>3790425

>>3785563
My 2 Sony cameras have been very nice. Certainly better than my older Fuji XT I upgraded from. They have survived many a fall and just being chucked in my bag all day and neither have a mark on them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Dec 2020 00:29:08 No.3785623 Report

Quoted By: >>3785640

>>3758112
For professional use, you will be expected to own a Sony.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Dec 2020 01:20:47 No.3785640 Report

Quoted By:

>>3785623
Low tier bait

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Dec 2020 15:18:54 No.3785897 Report

Quoted By: >>3789632

I would love to use shoot sony if it wasn't for the questionable build quality & ergonomics (pre a7r4), shit lcd's, shit menu system, and lack of touch proper operation in 2020.

the sigma/tamron lenses blow everything else out of the water in terms of price to performance.

hopefully the a7iv fixes the previously mentioned issues or sigma/tamron start making lenses for nikon/sony.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Dec 2020 17:48:03 No.3785929 Report

Quoted By:

yes, the cameras that finish top of all normie lists are actually trash because a vietnamese basket-weaving forum says so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Dec 2020 07:23:24 No.3787419 Report

Quoted By: >>3787421 >>3790365

>>3785615
also check the Tamron 17-70mm F2.8 for apsc e mount. it may be cheaper if it has been released.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Dec 2020 07:30:21 No.3787421 Report

Quoted By:

>>3787419
add: The 17-70mm F2.8 Di III-A VC RXD will be available in mid-January for $799.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 16:36:07 No.3788390 Report

Quoted By: >>3789068

PENTAX
E
N
T
A
X

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 17:59:43 No.3788442 Report

Quoted By:

they're perfectly fine

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 17:00:37 No.3789068 Report

Quoted By: >>3789118

>>3788390
I shoot both and I wish Pentax would get their autofocus up to par with everyone else. Using my Sony feels like cheating, but you can't beat Pentax build quality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 19:18:27 No.3789118 Report

Quoted By: >>3789634

>>3789068
Yeah. Also, Pentax IS is pretty bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 19:45:14 No.3789148 Report

Quoted By:

>>3772102
>Then why are you compelled to manually change the ISO so often you need a dial?

You're a fucking retard for asking this.
>hurr durr y do u want 2 experiment with the tools available 2 u?!?!!?!?!
If you're shooting fucking digital having important settings like ISO at the ready is a net benefit. This is not even arguable. One of the advantages of having digital vs film is the level of versatility it gives you with things like changing ISO, or using histograms, or using bracketing and HDR techniques. Shooting like you have film when you have digital doesn't make you special, it makes you a stubborn dumbass who refuses to use the full potential of his tools because he's too good for them. You're like the dipshit in the machine shop who doesn't wear ear pro because
>what are you a pussy? It isn't that loud!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 06:05:00 No.3789447 Report

Quoted By: >>3789629

>>3758112
>Are sony cameras really as bad as everyone here says?
The a7 and a7ii are notorious for slow AF. a7iii is supposed to be better, but still poor ergonomics and confusing menus.
>Should I just get a fuji instead?
Get a Canon instead, what are you smoking?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 06:21:24 No.3789468 Report

Quoted By:

>>3759162
>Also that bokeh. Ugh....
This is an extreme example.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 07:04:55 No.3789499 Report

Quoted By: >>3789576

>>3758112

The only bad camera is a camera that can't take pictures.

Idiots here think you can compare camera bodies like you can compare phones or GAMIN' RIGZ.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 13:33:34 No.3789576 Report

Quoted By:

>>3789499

A camera or a lens is a tool and just like any other tool they can all be objectively compared and subjectively compared. Phones and gaming computers are toys, they're not relevant to any discussion on cameras which are tools. A camera is more comparable to a CNC machine, one a tool for an artist one a tool for a machinist. The better the tool the better you can make your output if you have the skills and knowledge to use it and the more creative latitude you have. Sure you can buy a $200 D70 and take wonderful pictures, just like you can buy a chinese CNC router and make stuff out of small pieces of wood or plastic, but that does not make the objective increases in image quality you'd get from buying say, a D7000, moot. Having greater dynamic range and light sensitivity at your disposal is like having a more powerful spindle and better precision on your CNC router, which allows you to cut a wider range of materials. You can make more out of more; more adverse lighting conditions, less available light. Having more resolution is like having a bigger workspace; you can still make small things but you have the room to make bigger ones. So when you're out shooting while traveling and you come across a far away but compelling subject and your lens is short the greater resolution lets you crop and still have a meaningfully large image file for printing at a decent size.

Cameras can most definitely be compared in both objective and subjective manners, and saying otherwise is merely denying reality. Increases in objective image quality potential through greater dynamic range, signal to noise ratio or light sensitivity are always a net benefit, no exceptions. You can always choose to use less of your dynamic range, or less light sensitivity, but if you are in a situation where you don't have those things and you wish you did, you're fucked and can't fulfill your artistic vision.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 16:27:27 No.3789629 Report

Quoted By:

>>3789447
>but still poor ergonomics
It's fine.

> confusing menus
Mostly to people not using the Sony camera, shockingly they are not the same as the menus they learned on their cameras for 10 years.

Not saying they're the best they could ever be, but they work ok.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 16:33:59 No.3789632 Report

Quoted By:

>>3785897
>questionable build quality
Metal fetishists suck. The "build quality" was okay even on the A5000, it still is okay on the current Sonys.

> touch proper operation
Video shooters might have something to complain about, but as a photographer in a typical situation you're using the EVF, your muscle memory is for EVF capable controls and anyhow mainly for the main controls and switching between profiles.

Touch controls are an extra. Not terribly important, although indeed Sony could simplify some stuff like entering WLAN passwords that way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 16:35:26 No.3789634 Report

Quoted By: >>3790367

>>3789118
I get much better results from the K1mk2 IBIS than I do from my A7R3.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 18:44:54 No.3790365 Report

Quoted By:

>>3787419
Tamron lenses are usually underwhelming. Pass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 18:46:11 No.3790367 Report

Quoted By: >>3790441

>>3789634
The thing is, Pentax *just* has IBIS. Sony, and Canon now, for that matter, use IBIS and lens IS. Lens IS does much more work at stabilization than body stabilization, which comes into play for telephoto more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 19:11:07 No.3790388 Report

Quoted By:

Bratislava

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 19:13:34 No.3790389 Report

Quoted By:

Bratislava right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 19:59:35 No.3790425 Report

Quoted By:

>>3785619
Cool story, bro.
My XT got run over by a monster truck and, whaddayaknow, afterward the firmware was updated with extra features! Intrigued, I tossed it in a river (waterproofing, ftw) and, voila ... the autofocus improved. In the name of science, I microwaved it on high for 7 minutes and, damn, now it has MORE film sims.
>tru story. well, the improvements are tru.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 20:09:37 No.3790437 Report

Quoted By: >>3790647

my sony a 7ii is my favourite camera.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 20:17:53 No.3790441 Report

Quoted By: >>3790499 >>3793335

>>3790367
Combining IBIS and OIS usually yields poor results.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 22:10:42 No.3790499 Report

Quoted By:

>>3790441
what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2021 01:52:25 No.3790647 Report

Quoted By:

>>3790437
Is it also your single camera? I wouldn't consider the A7III my favorite camera, and I rant about it a lot. Still, I use it the most because of its sensor performance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jan 2021 11:03:55 No.3793335 Report

Quoted By:

>>3790441
Combining seatbelts and airbags usually yields poor results

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 12:47:07 No.3795695 Report

Quoted By: >>3795725 >>3795752

I would love to get a A7 iii this year with the tamron 28-75 2.8 for my first full frame kit. Coming from an 80D I'm almost sure handling will be worse but I'm ready to adapt. Used Canons m50 for a few days and was disgusted by the lack of dials and buttons, seemed like intentionally cucked. I'm certain the A7 iii will be better, what am I in for?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 13:47:43 No.3795725 Report

Quoted By: >>3795753

>>3795695
Just an all round nice camera, AF is outdated but pretty excellent. Sony meme menus, but they don’t get in the way of shooting.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 14:31:04 No.3795752 Report

Quoted By: >>3795753 >>3795759

>>3795695
>what am I in for?
Having to switch off your camera for the battery.
A decreasing discomfort as your eye get used to focus on a small screen inside the viewfinder.
An accurate feedback of your exposure/settings/DoF.
More details and the ability to shoot in the dark.
An uncomfortable grip for your pinky.
A louder shutter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 14:37:27 No.3795753 Report

Quoted By: >>3795789

>>3795725
>>3795752
Thanks, what do you mean by switching off the camera for the battery? I'd like to use it with a battery grip because I like the handling and looks more + improved battery life.
My biggest concern is adapting to the EVF, I hope the advantages of seeing how the digital image will really turn out will outweigh not seeing the "real" image through the lens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 14:51:53 No.3795759 Report

Quoted By:

>>3795752
>having to move a switch that's on the shutter button
Oh NO!

>focusing on a small screen inside the vf
That's exactly how an OVF works too, you focus on a ground glass screen, which is why crop DSLR have such tiny, hard to see viewfinders that you have to strain to see anything.

>grip with your pinky
Your right hand shouldn't be taking any weight, you hold your camera with your left hand

>loud shutter
Or, silent shutter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 15:19:29 No.3795789 Report

Quoted By: >>3795794

>>3795753
What is there not to understand? A mirrorless camera relies on the sensor to feed an image to the screen in order to compose so you basically have live view on all the time. This costs power which you reduce by turning it off when not composing shots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 15:30:41 No.3795794 Report

Quoted By:

>>3795789
Oh now I get it sorry. Since I'm somewhat obsessed with constantly turning things off that won't be a problem, I'm also turning off my dslr constantly.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 19:57:08 No.3795902 Report

Quoted By:

>>3772089
>I think the Ricoh guys are probably right about MILCs being a fad and the possibility that many people who switched to MILC will eventually return to DSLR.

Why the hell would you switch back to something that is
- heavier
- has no EVF with live info
- bulkier
- no IBIS possible

The only remaining arguments are price and battery life.
You can get an aftermarket battery for your MILC for 15€ a pop that performs the same as the original one, and MILC are cheap on the used market too so that's not a real argument either.

Reminds me of that legendary quote about CDs being a fad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 20:03:31 No.3795906 Report

Quoted By: >>3795954

>>3773987
I agree with almost everything, except

>Fuji is forever destined to be meme shit because of tranny sensor layout

That's a Lightroom problem only. Sadly it's the most popular RAW developer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 20:25:37 No.3795917 Report

Quoted By:

>>3763501
d750 owner here considering the switch to mirrorless, how has it been finding lenses for the Z series? Do you use the FTZ adapter? Does it work well? Are there things about the Z series that suck compared to your D850? Interested in a Z7II but not completely sold on it yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 22:13:35 No.3795954 Report

Quoted By: >>3796118 >>3796121

>>3795906
Nah, by having too much green in the filter you miss a lot of depth and subtlety in colour, all so they could say they have marginally better low light than other crop babby cameras.

Look how flat and lifeless skin tones are on Fuji.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 02:49:55 No.3796118 Report

Quoted By: >>3796235

>>3795954
literally nobody complains about fuji colors, the opposite in fact, everyone praises the superior output.
link me a study saying an x-trans or quad bayer or rgbe color filter arrays are worse than traditional bayer array. tip: you can't, because you're full of shit, and "lot of depth and subtlety in colour" are not metrics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 03:10:56 No.3796121 Report

Quoted By:

>>3795954
Yep, fu-shitter is FUll of SHIT... trolling for (you)'s

>can we finally ban this cancer of /p/?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 04:13:47 No.3796139 Report

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They are really good for making high quality images but pure trash at being a "camera experience". It's not even necessarily about menus or controls layout, but mushy control wheel that sometimes triggers D-pad "side button" functions as I scroll it, poor debounce on the control dial, "Writing to memory card. Unable to operate." message. They have finally added aspect ratios other than 3:2 and 16:9 in the latest generation only. It's weird to even complain about, because hey, high resolution images do come out just fine, but every small detail like that is bad.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 10:06:58 No.3796235 Report

Quoted By: >>3796297 >>3796355 >>3796538 >>3798771 >>3798785

>>3796118
>How can having a less balanced array of colour in the colour array affect colour accuracy?

Lmao, you're a moron.

>People like Fuji

No, they don't. Look how fucked up skin looks compared to a normal camera, flat colour, no texture, masked details, sickly jaundiced look (yes both are at the same wb). Tony Northrup proved that subjectively people like Sony colours and dislike Fuji in one of his videos, if you can show proof the opposite is true then post it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 13:20:22 No.3796297 Report

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>>3796235
wtf the shot on the left looks awful in comparison, how can they fuck up a camera so bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2021 16:01:11 No.3796355 Report

Quoted By: >>3798742

>>3796235
>yes both are at the same wb
That doesn't tell you anything. Were they shot RAW and developed the same? Or did they let the respective camera's JPEG engine do it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Jan 2021 01:00:51 No.3796538 Report

Quoted By: >>3798742

>>3796235
So that we're clear, the right looks better here, which is which?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 13:12:12 No.3798741 Report

Quoted By: >>3798799

blackpill me on a6600.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 13:15:47 No.3798742 Report

Quoted By: >>3798771

>>3796355
These were sooc

>>3796538
Left is Fuji, you can tell by the smeared colour and loss of detail.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 14:53:04 No.3798771 Report

Quoted By:

>>3796235
>litteraly shill proved somethign

Dude, do you even have higher education? This is so stupid in a sens how research is conducted, I don't even know where to star.

>subjectively people like Sony colours and dislike Fuji in one of his videos, if you can show proof the opposite is true then post it

https://youtu.be/FRQpueEvb-U

>>3798742
>Left is Fuji, you can tell by the smeared colour and loss of detail.

Show this pictuer any woman and ask her which one she prefers. I guarantee that softer look from fuji will be prefered, because people don't want to expose their wrinkles, pores and skin blemishes.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 15:20:16 No.3798785 Report

Quoted By: >>3798805

>>3796235
I even watched northup video, and you are dumb nigger.

EVEN IS HIS FUCKING VIDEO HE LINKS TO DIFFERENT RESEARCH WHERE FUJI>SONY

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 15:22:14 No.3798791 Report

Quoted By:

>>3759184
A 12% share in a company doesn't mean you can exert any kind of power when it comes to making decisions.
Sure if Tamron stock rised then Sony would have an unrealized gain but I doubt that random people shilling for Tamron online would have a sufficient enough impact on their sales and therefore value.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 15:39:19 No.3798799 Report

Quoted By: >>3798804

>>3798741
6100
6400
6500
6600
Doesn't matter. Any of them become godlike when you pair them with the Tanron 17-70 F2,8.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 15:45:32 No.3798804 Report

Quoted By: >>3798806

>>3798799
>that lens plus that sony form factor

lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 15:47:31 No.3798805 Report

Quoted By:

>>3798785
Who gives a flying fuck about that guy anyway?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 15:48:15 No.3798806 Report

Quoted By: >>3798807

>>3798804
Is a 67mm filter thread lens too big for your tiny palm?

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 15:51:10 No.3798807 Report

Quoted By: >>3798811

>>3798806
>measures lens with a filter thread

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 15:54:36 No.3798810 Report

Quoted By: >>3800121

>>3771140
>Minolta
>second-class

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 15:55:16 No.3798811 Report

Quoted By: >>3798814

>>3798807
>>>measures lens with a filter
Yes, filter thread is the approximation of barrel diameter, is 67mm too big for you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 16:02:33 No.3798814 Report

Quoted By: >>3798816 >>3798834 >>3801431

>>3798811
you know, that there are more dimensions that just diameter? There is something also called "length"! And if you remind yourself something about high school physics there is also something called "leverage".

What do you have on other end of this so-called "leverage"? Tiny body, which is famous for bad form factor and no battery grip options.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 16:05:56 No.3798816 Report

Quoted By: >>3798825

>>3798814
>There is something also called "length"
What.... is to too long to rest on your tiny palm?

You seem to be very intimated by such a tiny lens for some reason.

>there is also something called "leverage".
The whole setup rests on the left palm.
Is 500 gram too much? Does that weight kill your fragile body?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 16:16:55 No.3798825 Report

Quoted By: >>3798830

>>3798816
>You seem to be very intimated by such a tiny lens for some reason.
>Is 500 gram too much? Does that weight kill your fragile body?

Imagine having to defend objectively bad ergonomics, because marketing department told you so.

This meme is brought to you by pancake lens gang.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 16:23:03 No.3798830 Report

Quoted By: >>3798833

>>3798825
Pancakes depends on the body for ergonomy.
A 3 by 5 inch lens doesn't. This setup has a tiny barrel which fits into a normal palm just fine, and the right hand isn't even really needed to hold the camera.

Honestly you probably have other problems with your life such as masturbation issues if you think 5 inch length is unwieldy.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 16:27:37 No.3798833 Report

Quoted By: >>3798834

>>3798830
>Honestly you probably have other problems with your life such as masturbation issues if you think 5 inch length is unwieldy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 16:29:21 No.3798834 Report

Quoted By: >>3798835

>>3798833
See>>3798814
Apparently Canon babbies are intimidated by 5 inch lengths.

Not even, it,s 4,7 inch.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 16:31:35 No.3798835 Report

Quoted By: >>3798836

>>3798834
>using two hand to shoot is more ergonomic than using one

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 16:32:31 No.3798836 Report

Quoted By:

>>3798835
Two hands is better stabilisation. It's good practice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2021 04:15:03 No.3800121 Report

Quoted By:

>>3798810
>this was considered class-leading at one point
wewlad

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 02:26:49 No.3800661 Report

Quoted By: >>3800690

>>3758112
I shoot a full frame Nikon and I just picked up a Sony. I couldn’t use it for photojournalism work because the battery life is atrocious but for a walk around or studio camera its not too bad so I’ll keep it around for portraiture work.

If you don’t have to worry about a work camera get a Fuji. I have an XA3 and for a shitty little camera it’s fun to shoot with and the jpegs sooc are great

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Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 03:23:29 No.3800690 Report

Quoted By: >>3800742

>>3800661
>Whine about battery life.
>Recommend a brand with the worst battery life.
>over the mirrorless brand with the best battery life
Bro.. really?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 05:09:25 No.3800741 Report

Quoted By: >>3800745

>>3758112
Sony Camera owner reporting. My personal experience has been Sony cameras are great. Sony lenses are mostly shit except a handful of overpriced ones though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 05:12:29 No.3800742 Report

Quoted By:

>>3800690
It’s called astroturfing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 05:14:07 No.3800744 Report

Quoted By:

>>3758294
>new bad
>old good
ok

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 05:14:55 No.3800745 Report

Quoted By:

>>3800741
E-mount is the one system with 4 certified AF lens manufacturers. So Sony isn't the only one there.

The only other system that gets close is L-mount with 3 certified native AF manufacturers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 05:16:42 No.3800747 Report

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>>3758332
>this incident magically happened because "brand"
I don't know who is more retarded. The slob that broke their camera or you for thinking social media posts = credible facts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 05:16:57 No.3800748 Report

Quoted By:

Don't understand the ergonomics argument. I've used both the Z7 and R6 and neither had enough room for my pinky to be placed comfortably on the grip. Sure they were a bit better than Sony's but they still weren't enough for long shoots. In any case, I'd get an L-bracket or battery grip to extend the grip of every single mirrorless camera except maybe not FF Panasonic or Leica as I've never touched those before.

>>3758114
>Sony is good for video
Only a single camera in their consumer lineup, the A7SIII is good for video. Everything was still 8-bit last I checked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 05:55:35 No.3800760 Report

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>>3758114
>Sony is good for video but the ergonomics and build quality are trash.
maybe in 2015. unless you're buying the a7s3, sony has been eclipsed by everyone including olympus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 23:55:18 No.3801283 Report

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>>3758114
In particular, it is good for video if you can put it on a tripod, point certain direction, press "Record" and walk away. Less interaction with controls, which are shit, and more interaction with output, which is excellent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jan 2021 04:57:38 No.3801415 Report

Quoted By: >>3801457

Sony has always been the copefag of the camera world. There hasn't really been a real camera that came close to their specs, so the tryhard photofags just pretended that they were good. Now that Canon EOS R5 is out, the mask drops for a lot of these same people, as they dump Sony for Canon. What complete fakes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jan 2021 05:15:38 No.3801431 Report

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>>3798814
What are you some kind of pussy? I have a 200-600 on a A6400.

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Anonymous Wed 20 Jan 2021 05:44:51 No.3801457 Report

Quoted By: >>3801461

>>3801415
For better or for worse Sony invokes the stronget emotions in this industry.
Canikon people undergo fear and anxiety.
Fujishills undergo jealousy andinferiority complexes.
Even Pentax people have been spotted over the years wishing Pentax had the research prowess of Sony.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jan 2021 05:49:38 No.3801461 Report

Quoted By: >>3801463 >>3801491 >>3801553

>>3801457
Canon has nothing to fear from the likes of a Playstation Camera.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jan 2021 05:51:30 No.3801463 Report

Quoted By: >>3801468

>>3801461
I'm talking about you, its shills. I have sensed nothing but fear and anxiety from you guys over the years.

I got especially bad when the RP (which you told me would sell like hotcakes) went on clearance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jan 2021 05:59:57 No.3801468 Report

Quoted By: >>3801474

>>3801463
>I got especially bad
How bad are you now? To the bone?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jan 2021 06:11:23 No.3801474 Report

Quoted By: >>3801476

>>3801468
*it got
That means you guys, all of your shill colleagues shat all over the place in panick when you found out the RP failed the sales even fell below the R.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jan 2021 06:12:57 No.3801476 Report

Quoted By: >>3801484

>>3801474
>panick

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Anonymous Wed 20 Jan 2021 06:31:29 No.3801484 Report

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>>3801476
Do you guys at least have some sort of plan?
Or do you intend to spend yourself into the death spiral?

I mean, I'm not going to pretend I care about you, but it would actually hurt the market if you just shat yourself to death in a spasm.

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Anonymous Wed 20 Jan 2021 06:41:59 No.3801491 Report

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>>3801461
>Canon has nothing to fear
Oh man, it's actually far worse than I initially suspected. Canon never really recovered from the 2008 financial crisis.
They have been in a death spiral since then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jan 2021 10:58:32 No.3801553 Report

Quoted By:

>>3801461
cope

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