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Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 16:50:58 No.3773852 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>3773866 >>3774243 >>3774452 >>3777880 >>3777973

What’s wrong with this picture?

Shot on iPhone 12 pro max, the latest greatest iPhone. The scene is beautiful. Plenty of light.

And yet it still looks like a picture shot from a phone camera

What’s the fucking point of buying the latest greatest iPhone for the camera if the best scenes still get blown the fuck out by $400 mirror less cameras from Amazon.com?

Posted on Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/iPhoneography/comments/k8gyic/the_best_sunset_ive_seen_since_being_in_montana/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

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Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 16:54:44 No.3773855 Report

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normies don't care and they probably think that their phone is cheaper than a decent camera

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 17:02:56 No.3773857 Report

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Because it's good enough for them

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 17:05:11 No.3773861 Report

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iPhones have a distinct HDR look that gets applied and once you know what to look for it’s easy to spot, especially in the sky. If you shoot RAW, you can cook it to look pretty good. You just end up fighting to retain detail and reduce noise.

fucking cuck !!L1lx81epp6B

fucking cuck !!L1lx81epp6B Mon 07 Dec 2020 17:07:53 No.3773862 Report

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Because, and I’m fuckin loathe to say it, it’s the one you have with you.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 17:09:31 No.3773863 Report

Quoted By: >>3773874

Meanwhile I think this one looks pretty good. Shot on RAW from the Lightroom app.

https://www.reddit.com/r/iPhoneography/comments/k89mux/iphone_11_shot_with_lightroom_hdr/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

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Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 17:15:33 No.3773866 Report

Quoted By: >>3773871 >>3773905

>>3773852
Even on a basic resolution (24mp) full frame sensor, the sensor will still massively outresolve all but the absolute best $10k+ lenses.

As the sensor gets smaller, that difference between lens resolution and final image gets worse and worse.

Lenses are measured in lp\mm, or line pairs per mm, this is how many distinct pairs of black and white lines the lens can render on the sensor surface. An iPhone sensor is around 4.2mm tall, so to match the lens + sensor resolution of a 24mm tall full frame sensor, you'd need the lens on the iPhone to be able to resolve nearly 6 times more detail!

And that's why camera lenses use some super exotic materials, to try and bridge that gap, but they still come nowhere near.

There's also the issue of sensor mtf with such small pixels, but that's diminishing returns next to the lens issue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 17:24:40 No.3773871 Report

Quoted By: >>3773906

>>3773866
>Even on a basic resolution (24mp) full frame sensor, the sensor will still massively outresolve all but the absolute best $10k+ lenses.

lol no

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 17:31:49 No.3773874 Report

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>>3773863

I think it looks like a painting instead of a photo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 17:37:10 No.3773877 Report

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Half of the photos on that subreddit absolutely btfo /p/ hahahaha

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 17:43:34 No.3773878 Report

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This picture looks awful but typically phone cameras aren't supposed to be pixel peeped, printed nor even displayed on monitors. For the purpose of taking pictures for personal memories, documentation and typically sharing between phones they're absolutely perfect.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 18:46:42 No.3773905 Report

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>>3773866
>Even on a basic resolution (24mp) full frame sensor, the sensor will still massively outresolve all but the absolute best $10k+ lenses
This is just a flat out lie. Check Christopher Frost's reviews, he has one of those super high res cameras (iirc 42mp) and there are still lenses that give plenty detail on that. They don't even have to be in expensive.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 18:47:19 No.3773906 Report

Quoted By: >>3773985 >>3774247 >>3774264 >>3777933

>>3773871
24mp is 6k X 4k
4k \ 24 = 167 lines, 83.5 line pairs
Zeiss otus mtf graph attached, yellow line is 80lp\mm, anything under 0.5 is more wrong than it is right. It manages to outresolve a 24mp, 24mm high sensor only in the centre 16mm diameter circle.

Get bodied retard.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 21:38:45 No.3773973 Report

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>https://www.reddit.com
>https://www.reddit.com
GO BACK, GO BACK, GO BACK!

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Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 22:03:22 No.3773985 Report

Quoted By: >>3773990

>>3773906
well this is just not true in practice, I don't care about some autistic measurements.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 22:07:56 No.3773990 Report

Quoted By: >>3773993 >>3777934

>>3773985
>I prefer my feelings to facts!

We know, fuji poster.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 22:10:58 No.3773993 Report

Quoted By: >>3773995 >>3774000

>>3773990
https://youtu.be/TwToxSlB_xI
Tell me if you feel the lens looks blurry.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 22:16:05 No.3773995 Report

Quoted By: >>3774230

>>3773993
That gearfaggot needs to quit photography... He's randomly pointing camera at things.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 22:21:43 No.3774000 Report

Quoted By: >>3774205

>>3773993
Do I see aliasing? No? Then it doesn't outresolve the sensor.

Stay mad with your sensorlet camera lad.

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Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 05:02:13 No.3774205 Report

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>>3774000
>what's the antialiasing filter

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Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 05:35:00 No.3774230 Report

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>>3773995
That. Wasn't. The. Point.
Now, does the image seem blurry to you?

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Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 06:05:21 No.3774243 Report

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>>3773852
>What’s wrong with this picture?
The retina searing bright yellow filter.
Filters mainly. It's probably a perfectly cromulent photo otherwise.

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Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 06:15:38 No.3774247 Report

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>>3773906
lol no

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Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 07:05:35 No.3774264 Report

Quoted By: >>3774472 >>3777935 >>3777936

>>3773906
You need at least 16 pixels to record one pixel accurately.

Something that can resolve "100 lines" requires 1600 or more pixels to accurately resolve without huge issues.
What happens when that line pair you're obsessing over happens to be completely diagonal or misaligned with the pixel grid of the capture device? Yeah, you need more than 2x2 fucking pixels to capture that.

Lenses work in the real world.
Pixels are digital.

You can't rotate a digital image without loss of detail.

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Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 16:56:24 No.3774452 Report

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>>3773852
Absolutely disgusting

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Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 17:15:20 No.3774472 Report

Quoted By: >>3774656

>>3774264
my man thinks that his 24 mp sensor has pixel perfect performance though.

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Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 23:12:21 No.3774656 Report

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>>3774472
probably thinks an AA filter is good too

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 11:13:10 No.3777880 Report

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>>3773852
Probably the lack of details and microcontrast.
Because of the size of the lens and the sensor, the details are quite blur, which is important in landscape

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 13:39:36 No.3777933 Report

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>>3773906
>Zeiss otus mtf graph attached, yellow line is 80lp\mm, anything under 0.5 is more wrong than it is right.
Vertical axis is a measurement of contrast, not of noise. Everything down to 0.1 is "right" but not as strongly visible after capture.

Also: resolution is NOT clipped by a single component in the manner people often imagine. System resolution is always lower than the weakest component, but improving ANY component improves the final result and brings it closer to theoretical maximum. Even poor lenses do better on higher resolution sensors.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 13:41:05 No.3777934 Report

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>>3773990
You didn't post facts. You understand neither the chart you posted nor system resolution.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 13:42:56 No.3777935 Report

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>>3774264
>You need at least 16 pixels to record one pixel accurately.
No. You simply need >2 pixels to reliably record a line pair. 2.2 is a good number and is derived from sampling in other domains such as digital audio. Keep in mind that 2.2 insures that no alignment will cause the line pair to disappear entirely. In reality the vast majority of alignments mean the sensor can record detail just beyond the expected Nyquist limit.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 13:51:50 No.3777936 Report

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>>3774264
>You can't rotate a digital image without loss of detail.
Also: this doesn't make the slightest bit of sense. PERFECT alignment of a line pair against a pixel array will cause the line pair to disappear at Nyquist, and alias beyond.

Any imperfection in the alignment will INCREASE the array's ability to detect the line pair, not decrease it. Granted there's a small gap before all is aliased any way, but a diagonal would be detectable just beyond Nyquist.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 15:19:33 No.3777973 Report

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>>3773852
>What’s the fucking point of buying the latest greatest iPhone for the camera
Do people really??

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