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>>3775518
They aren't, they were just sold to the same conglomerate as VAIO (JIP). There's even been new lens releases. Still, it's a shitty system outside of some niche uses.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 03:38:49 No.3775520 Report

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>>3775519
What would you rec for my purposes then? I was looking at a few Fuji systems but apparently their image quality is worse compared to competition

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 03:49:00 No.3775525 Report

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>>3775520
It is, and it's a nightmare to edit too because as soon as you push it you get a nastly noise that looks like worms.
Probably Nikon would be your best bet.
Easy to use, good JPEGs (it's what Olympus and Fuji are all about), etc.
I know he's a complete meme, but Ken Rockwell shoots JPEG exclusively and does well. I suggest you use RAW, but a camera that gives you good looking JPEGs is a camera where your RAW starting point tends to be pretty good. Sony tends to demand more editing. I recently moved from Nikon to Canon but I'm so green I can't really say much about Canon other than I'm impressed with the AF speed.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 13:30:38 No.3775803 Report

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>>3775496
This is some next-stage brandfagging, holy shit
>I want to get into a brand
Tell me this is bait

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 23:00:50 No.3776981 Report

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>>3775803
Dumb frogposter

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 23:10:38 No.3776995 Report

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>>3776981
Fucking retarded, mouth-breathing consumerist gearposter, god DAMN

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 23:37:52 No.3777038 Report

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>>3775496
Get something like the OM-D E-M1 MkIII or even the E-M1X.
As for lenses, I highly recommend the Olympus 17mm f1.8 for street photography and Olympus 25mm f1.8. There are f1.2 pro versions of these lenses which cost more and have an L-Fn button that can be programmed.
If you want to do portraits, take the Olympus 75mm and consider if you want any telephotos or macro lenses. Panasonic lenses are good too. There are also some pretty good Sigma lenses out there too. Avoid the Tokina and Tamron ones.

For night photography... it's doable but be aware that longer exposures and higher ISOs will be required. The Voigtländer lenses are f0.95 and there's an f0.8 coming, but they're all manual focus only.

Micro Four Thirds is pretty good - ignore the Fujianons.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 23:40:18 No.3777042 Report

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>>3775496
What specifically draws you to olympus?

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 00:00:38 No.3777082 Report

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>>3775496
Get em5ii and some fast prime. Built like a tank.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 04:02:09 No.3777228 Report

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>>3777038
>Micro Four Thirds is pretty good - ignore the Fujianons.
this
>If you want to do portraits, take the Olympus 75mm and consider if you want any telephotos or macro lenses. Panasonic lenses are good too. There are also some pretty good Sigma lenses out there too. Avoid the Tokina and Tamron ones.
Ehhh seems a bit long to me, that's a 150mm equivalent.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 08:59:52 No.3777318 Report

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>>3777042
I love how they look, and I hear they're incredibly durable which suits my needs. The thing that turns me off is apparently they have awful low light capability

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 12:15:55 No.3777357 Report

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>>3777318
The low light performance can be worked around.
Olympus cameras have a Livecomp setting in Manual mode that means that if it's mounted on a tripod, you can set it to perform multiple exposures, giving you good ISO. Though I must admit that this takes time.
With a fast lens, something like f0.95 then you can take faster shots overall, and avoid higher ISOs.
Plus, if we're assuming you're shooting in RAW, post processing software has some really damn good noise filtering.

Would a full frame camera perform better at night? Yes. Would a full frame camera cost more and weigh more? Yes.
Personally, I don't mind and limitations of MFT. If I really want night photography, I just take out my film camera loaded with Kodak TMax.

I can post some night photo examples.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 12:24:25 No.3777359 Report

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>>3777357
Star trails are hard to avoid, but you can make very deliberate use of them to create a more dramatic scene.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 12:28:16 No.3777361 Report

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>>3777359
Star trails can be fixed in post, but that can be a challenge. I know Nikon have astrotrackers which can use camera firmware to stop this... but...
Post processing software can also help, but that depends on what you're using.
Here... it's Saturn and Jupiter which are leaving trails in the image.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 12:31:13 No.3777362 Report

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>>3777361
Unfortunately, I don't know if there's a good white balance for moonlight.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 13:00:54 No.3777369 Report

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>>3777318
I think that is a very fair consideration of things.
So you should think to yourself, what will you use your camera most for?
If it involves a lot of low light shots (especially without the availability of a tripod) then it might be worth considering a larger sensor size. Otherwise, MFT is (contrary to shilling of lots of people) perfectly adequate. It might give slightly less image quality, and has less leniency in post processing, but I do like the look of olympus JPGs myself. This comes from a nikon FF user.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 17:15:53 No.3777467 Report

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>>3775496
I have an OM-D e m10 mk3 and I'm pretty happy with it. I tried the pen but I sent it back because I realised a viewfinder is pretty essential. I don't know all that much about cameras but I do my best to find cool things to take pictures of. That being said I'm mostly into nature photography, I use the 40-150mm m.zuiko that came with the kit for this. It's also compact in my big man hands. I couldn't really help with street photography though.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 17:38:52 No.3777481 Report

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>>3777467
>the pen
None of the Pen E models have an EVF, though a few can mount an EVF on the hotshoe.
The Pen F has a built in EVF though.
It's worth noting that the Pen F basically has OM-D features, excluding weather sealing and external microphone input.

If JIP do make a Pen F mk ii next year, then it could include these features, but don't hold your breath.
The go-to street photography lens on MFT is the Olympus 17mm f1.8. It's interesting too since it has a MF Clutch.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 18:23:59 No.3777492 Report

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>>3777038
>1X or 1 III for street
are you retarded?

have a look at the M5 series. The Mark 3 is an M1 Mk II in a small body. For me, the M1 II is perfectly usable up to ISO 6400. Keep in mind that you can shoot 1 second exposures handheld, so if you take photos of non-moving objects it's no problem at all.

>>3777357
If you use live comp for ISO you are doing it wrong. It's infinite exposure without blowing out highlights and the most fun i had with a camera.

>>3777359
>>3777362
They have horrible motion blur.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 19:41:32 No.3777530 Report

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>>3777492
Not unreasonable if you've money to burn. em1 and 1x have pro grade buffer and shooting speeds. Could be useful in spray and pray styles.
Imho, big plus for m43 is that they're completely inconspicuous. You can be shooting 100mm range with a really tinny lens.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Dec 2020 22:23:25 No.3777607 Report

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>>3777492
>are you retarded?
No? The E-M1 Mk III and M1X are very good bodies which are really solid and have a lot of capabilities which could be beneficial in urban areas. Stuff like phase AF and moving vehicle AF can prove useful in urban contexts. Not every street photo is a market place or a shop front.
Plus, you get better image processing.
>Keep in mind that you can shoot 1 second exposures handheld, so if you take photos of non-moving objects it's no problem at all.
You must have the hands of a surgeon if you are getting good 1" exposures handheld. I've been able to manage 1/4 exposures handheld, but I must be too skaky for 1/2 or slower.
>If you use live comp for ISO you are doing it wrong.
I just prefer using livecomp over bulb or live exposure, personally. I just get consistently better night photos with livecomp than with other modes, and much better noise too.

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Anonymous Tue 15 Dec 2020 12:29:18 No.3779547 Report

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>>3775520
>their image quality is worse compared to competition
lmao and you actually considered lolympus. dude lol
>>3775525
>It is, and it's a nightmare to edit too because as soon as you push it you get a nastly noise that looks like worms.
completely false. fuck off.
also saged for another stupid ass gear thread

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