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Anonymous Tue 29 Dec 2020 20:34:42 No.3787694 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>3787755 >>3788368 >>3788369

Nikon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Dec 2020 21:20:49 No.3787755 Report

Quoted By: >>3787812 >>3787934 >>3788369

>>3787694
Looks like a Canon EOS R knockoff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Dec 2020 22:27:43 No.3787812 Report

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>>3787755
That's a good MILC to knockoff

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 01:35:00 No.3787934 Report

Quoted By: >>3787938

>>3787755
>Nikon Z7 release: September 2018
>Canon EOS R release: October 2018
You can't into chronology?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 01:39:37 No.3787938 Report

Quoted By: >>3787940 >>3788005

>>3787934
Sure, kid. Because release date is when they started development.
Idiot.

>Canon
>started research on mirrorless cameras back in 2010/2011, releasing the EOS M in 2012, finally perfected a good product by late 2018

>Nikon
>dumped the Nikon 1 on us in 2014 after they started to lose sales to Canon
>heard rumors that Canon was getting ready to release a full frame mirrorless camera in early 2018, so they rushed a product to market and beat them to the punch, despite doing less R&D on an inferior product

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 01:42:54 No.3787940 Report

Quoted By: >>3787941

>>3787938
LOL... are you that retarded? Nikon released the NIkon 1 MILC system in 2011, beating Canon yet again
>OMG MY SIDES

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 01:44:22 No.3787941 Report

Quoted By: >>3787943

>>3787940
You mean *rushing a product to the market yet again
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 01:46:27 No.3787943 Report

Quoted By: >>3787945

>>3787941
imagine taking you sweat ass time on a technological advancement? releasing an already redundant product that will only be bought by brand loyalist anyway... Canon truly is the retard in the digital camera family

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 01:59:48 No.3787945 Report

Quoted By: >>3787955

>>3787943
Weird how Nikon has to relocate out of Japan to save themselves from going bankrupt, yet Canon is doing better than ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 02:27:30 No.3787955 Report

Quoted By: >>3787966

>>3787945
>implying canon is all in Japan?
>"Canon has established a globally optimized production system, taking a broad view of the ever-changing social and economic conditions around the world. We select the ideal production locations based on such factors as taxes, logistics, parts procurement and labor. We manufacture our products employing an agile and flexible system that spans the globe."

>t. Canon.com

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 02:44:55 No.3787966 Report

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>>3787955
Yes, Canon is a Japanese company with headquarters in Japan. They are also rich enough to have secondary and tertiary headquarters in lesser nations.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 02:58:14 No.3787970 Report

Quoted By: >>3788106

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 04:21:02 No.3788005 Report

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>>3787938
But the Z6 is way better than the EOS R and the shrimp dick RP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 07:44:43 No.3788106 Report

Quoted By: >>3788182

>>3787970
Why the fuck wouldnt they just lower their prices instead of relocating and trying to maintain insustainable profit margins? How much of an idiot do you have to be?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 10:53:15 No.3788174 Report

Quoted By: >>3789249

haha D800 goes clackclackclack

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 11:09:48 No.3788182 Report

Quoted By: >>3788224

>>3788106
>insustainable profit margin
>unsustainable profit margin
Welcome to Business 101

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 11:37:08 No.3788196 Report

Quoted By: >>3788200 >>3788221

kinda tempted to buy a used nikon z6 and get the 50mm 1.8 & 24-200 if i were to move to fool frame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 11:44:13 No.3788200 Report

Quoted By: >>3788202

>>3788196
Are you me? That's exactly what I did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 11:49:40 No.3788202 Report

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>>3788200
how are you liking it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 12:23:56 No.3788221 Report

Quoted By: >>3788303

>>3788196
I've been tempted to get Z50 to fuck around with some old glass, they are like €600 used.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 12:30:48 No.3788224 Report

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>>3788182
Sorry my B, I was doubting myself when I was typing but didn't bother to look it up.
Ironically I'm an Econ major.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 14:17:50 No.3788303 Report

Quoted By: >>3788308 >>3788736

>>3788221
>fuck around with some old glass
you do realize that the FTZ cant drive D series AF lenses?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 14:23:39 No.3788308 Report

Quoted By: >>3788728

>>3788303
I meant like adapting vintage manual focus stuff.
I can use old Nikon AF lenses with my DSLRs.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 16:09:32 No.3788368 Report

Quoted By: >>3788371 >>3788638

>>3787694
I like my Z6 very much. For a video/still hybrid device, it's the best value hands down. Nothing else even comes close!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 16:11:50 No.3788369 Report

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>>3787694
They have the most interesting body and lens selection for my own photographic interests, it's gonna suck if they go out. Canon and Sony are not bad companies they just don't make what I really want.

>>3787755
>this camera looks like another camera that I like more
This is your brain on Fanboy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 16:13:51 No.3788371 Report

Quoted By: >>3788396

>>3788368
Except for the Z6II, which is better. And the R6, which doesn’t need a Mark II to be better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2020 16:41:25 No.3788396 Report

Quoted By: >>3788638

>>3788371
R6 = $2,500
Z6ll = $2,000
Z6 = $1,600

My comment still stands.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 00:47:04 No.3788638 Report

Quoted By: >>3788659 >>3788661 >>3789212 >>3789251

>>3788396
>>3788368
I'm interested in getting a Nikon mirrorless, just because if I'm going to be brand loyal it might as well be with the company I've got the most familiarity with.

How does the Z6 compare to the Z5 and Z50? Obviously the Z50 is crop but is it worth $400 more to go from Z5 to Z6? What's better about it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 01:23:10 No.3788659 Report

Quoted By: >>3788660 >>3788666 >>3788838 >>3789115

>>3788638
I own a Z5, and shoot stills only.
The Z6 has a top LCD, BSI sensor, 12 fps, and higher res rear LCD.
But the Z5 has somewhat better battery life, dual traditional SD card slots, and you save some money.
Also, the Z5's non-BSI sensor supposedly is slightly better at base ISO, according to some conspiracy theorists.

I don't know about the Z6, but the Z5's autofocus is miserable in low light compared to my D750 - really puts me off the whole camera.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 01:25:46 No.3788660 Report

Quoted By: >>3788666

>>3788659
Of these stats, the top LCD is the one I most envy, believe it or not.
I agree with Ken that having the dial on the right side is more ergonomic, but who uses the PASM dial frequently?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 01:27:00 No.3788661 Report

Quoted By: >>3788662 >>3788666

>>3788638
Z6 also has IBIS, which might be worth the price increase for some.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 01:27:38 No.3788662 Report

Quoted By: >>3788666 >>3788675

>>3788661
The Z5 has IBIS, notably

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 01:34:30 No.3788666 Report

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>>3788662
>>3788661
>>3788660
>>3788659
Thanks mates, good info!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 01:56:29 No.3788675 Report

Quoted By: >>3788681 >>3788685

>>3788662
My bad, I thought they stripped out of of both the 5 and the 50. So the Z5 is basically just a mirrorless D750 with IBIS and worse AF?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 02:02:28 No.3788681 Report

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>>3788675
Yes, precisely.
Like a dumbed down D750, but hey, they give you IBIS and Z-glass.
(I forgot to mention no vertical grip possible with Z5 either)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 02:08:11 No.3788685 Report

Quoted By: >>3788729

>>3788675
Grain of salt with the AF too; an adapted F-mount 50mm 1.8 doesn't hunt in low light nearly as much as the Z 24-200, so I'm not sure if maybe it's a problem of the contrast-detect not having a wide aperture to work with?
I'd like to try with a Z prime lens and test it out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 04:02:07 No.3788728 Report

Quoted By: >>3788905

>>3788308
You do realize that you can fuck around with old manual focus Nikon lenses on just about any camera with an adapter a lot cheaper than a Z50 + FTZ.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 04:04:37 No.3788729 Report

Quoted By: >>3788820

>>3788685
contrast detect is only in pinpoint AF mode. and who would have thought that a fast prime wouldnt suck as bad a slow as shit superzoom in low light AF. Its not like auto focus systems need light to focus on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 04:23:37 No.3788736 Report

Quoted By: >>3788741 >>3788776 >>3788819 >>3788848

>>3788303
the main benefit of mirrorless is focus peaking, AF is for snapshitting tourists

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 04:35:38 No.3788741 Report

Quoted By: >>3788776 >>3788819 >>3788848 >>3788908 >>3789437

>>3788736
this. it always amazes me how many people are using AF on mirrorless when manual focus with focus peaking is like 99.9% accurate and fast or faster for most photography.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 05:45:00 No.3788776 Report

Quoted By: >>3788849

>>3788736
>>3788741
so what you're saying is that you've never heard of a focusing screen before

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 07:34:18 No.3788819 Report

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>>3788736
>>3788741
Ah yes, I enjoy either having my subject out of focus, or having to fully open the aperture, focus, close the aperture, and take the photo every single time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 07:35:41 No.3788820 Report

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>>3788729
My 28-300 f/3.5-5.6 literally never hunts in the same situations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 08:02:02 No.3788838 Report

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>>3788659
Wtf I thought only the Z5 II and Z6 II had dual slots

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 08:28:28 No.3788848 Report

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>>3788736
>>3788741
Gatekeeping purists like these are a scourge in all hobbies. End you're selve and give your gear away to someone who needs it more than you do.

t. someone who only owns manual lenses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 08:28:50 No.3788849 Report

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>>3788776
i think you can't read.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 11:08:22 No.3788905 Report

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>>3788728
Sure do, I have an old X-Pro1 that I use for that purpose right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 11:19:03 No.3788908 Report

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>>3788741
>Only 0.1% people use AF-C
I see you trolling. Others hatin

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 19:15:23 No.3789115 Report

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>>3788659
>the Z5's autofocus is miserable in low light compared to my D750 - really puts me off the whole camera.
Damn, that's rough. Canon dabbing on Nikon with every one of their mirrorless cameras.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 21:50:55 No.3789212 Report

Quoted By: >>3789252 >>3789265

>>3788638
>flip-under LCD
Now I finally understand why they are going out of business.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 22:39:53 No.3789249 Report

Quoted By: >>3789549

>>3788174
why would you make this webm without sound

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 22:40:57 No.3789251 Report

Quoted By: >>3789315

>>3788638
>Three new cameras
>Not one shooting above 24mp

Come on Nikon, for fucks sake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 22:41:55 No.3789252 Report

Quoted By: >>3790379

>>3789212
thats a feature people want boomer

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2020 23:10:24 No.3789265 Report

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>>3789212
Better than the flip-over screen that Sony uses that collides with the hotshoe and the viewfinder. Regrettable that they aren't fully articulated to the side though, feels like a regression to the D5000.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 00:26:11 No.3789315 Report

Quoted By: >>3789319

>>3789251
Is this bait?
The Z7 and Z7 II are >45 megapixels

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 00:35:57 No.3789319 Report

Quoted By: >>3789325

>>3789315
How do they compare with the R5?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 00:47:45 No.3789325 Report

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>>3789319
Well, I don't own either, because I can't afford them, so I can only point you to the specs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uN1umdWQaw

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 05:57:47 No.3789437 Report

Quoted By: >>3789441

>>3788741
>manual focus with focus peaking is like 99.9% accurate and fast or faster for most photography [than AF]
This is patently false. 100% false. There is no universe in which what you wrote has any truth. No, not 99% of situations. 0% of situations, since you're a liar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 06:00:44 No.3789441 Report

Quoted By: >>3789491

>>3789437
t. spray and pray snapshitter

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 06:59:41 No.3789491 Report

Quoted By: >>3789496

>>3789441
No, my camera simply has a competent AF system, so it nails the focus instantly in one shot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 07:03:24 No.3789496 Report

Quoted By: >>3789502

>>3789491
t. only shoots landscapes at infinity

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 07:12:31 No.3789502 Report

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>>3789496
>the mind of a nikon z shooter

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 10:49:05 No.3789549 Report

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>>3789249
afaik only /wsg/ and /gif/ have sound in webms

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 15:48:46 No.3789610 Report

Quoted By: >>3789617

sup /p/. I currently have a d5200 but I want something newer. Should I get a 7200 or 7500? I know a lot of people are gonna say I should just save up for a full frame, but im not a pro so I don't know if I can really justify the price.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 16:02:25 No.3789617 Report

Quoted By: >>3789626 >>3789660

>>3789610
>r. Should I get a 7200 or 7500? I know a lot of people are gonna say I should just save up for a full frame, but im not a pro so I don't know if I can really justify the price.
Get a used d750, costs the same as a new 7200 or 7500.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 16:22:13 No.3789626 Report

Quoted By: >>3789630 >>3789640 >>3790570

>>3789617
But then all my dx lenses would be essentially useless though if I went to a full frame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 16:29:26 No.3789630 Report

Quoted By: >>3789887

>>3789626
True, it depends on how many dx lenses you have and how good they are.
If you only have a few its probably worth it, I would imagine you can get some decent used fx glass with all the people moving to mirrorless now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 16:45:17 No.3789640 Report

Quoted By: >>3789653 >>3790571

>>3789626
So sell them and buy full frame lenses.

Or sell them and get a Canon full frame mirrorless. Better camera system anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 16:58:05 No.3789653 Report

Quoted By: >>3789835

>>3789640
>Canon full frame mirrorless
No glass in his price range, and the entry level cameras are garbage.
Great high end suff though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 17:09:18 No.3789660 Report

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>>3789617
If you want to stay in crop a used D7200 is a pretty good deal.
The D7500 is better in some regards but a step back in others, it also costs (new) the same as a Z50 + FTZ.

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Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 23:18:14 No.3789829 Report

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maybe this is not the thread for it but here goes
I have a FM2 with a 50mm f/1.4 AI-S lens
I was looking into some wide angle and these caught my eye
https://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/nikon/nikkoresources/preAI70/28mm1.htm
https://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/28mm-f28-ai.htm
https://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/28f28ais.htm
obviously, the AI-S seems the better choice but it's significantly more expensive than the AI while the pre-AI is the most compact one
which one should I get?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 23:24:15 No.3789834 Report

Quoted By: >>3790316

coolpix Aii when

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jan 2021 23:24:42 No.3789835 Report

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>>3789653
There are a trio of f/1.8 and f/2 primes, as well as a couple of really decent, affordable zooms. You can also adapt EF glass, which is eminently affordable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 01:00:24 No.3789887 Report

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>>3789630
Ehhh my lenses are probably shit imo. I have the 18-55 kit lens, a 55-200 1.4-5.6, a 18-70 3.5-4.5 (probably my favourite lens desu) and a 35 1.8 prime lens

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 17:18:02 No.3790316 Report

Quoted By:

>>3789834
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 18:55:32 No.3790379 Report

Quoted By:

>>3789252
For what purpose?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jan 2021 22:27:16 No.3790508 Report

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Any particular 70-300mm full frame lenses you guys recommend? I currently shoot on a crop sensor, but in the future I plan on getting a full frame. Figured I should get at least one lens I can use on both bodies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2021 00:10:21 No.3790570 Report

Quoted By:

>>3789626
Depends on the megapixels. Nikon has crop mode for FX cameras, it's pretty great.
With Canon, I can't use EF-S without manual cropping on my FF camera. The mount is simply incompatible. Some third party lenses work but you need to be careful to not use one that hits the mirror. But with Nikon, there's no such worries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2021 00:11:24 No.3790571 Report

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>>3789640
>mirrorless
The cuckolds's choice.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2021 02:52:17 No.3790672 Report

Quoted By: >>3790678 >>3790700 >>3791111

All is right in the world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2021 03:04:00 No.3790678 Report

Quoted By:

>>3790672
Thank god

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2021 03:17:38 No.3790700 Report

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>>3790672
who didnt see this coming.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2021 20:36:02 No.3791100 Report

Quoted By: >>3791101 >>3791164 >>3791195 >>3791286

Would you guys buy a Z50 now? I had it, and really liked it, but sold it since no new APS-C lenses were on the horizon.

Now the situation does not seem to have changed a lot, but realistically speaking the existing lenses cover most bases:

> 16-50 & 50-250 as walkaround snapshit lenses
> 50 1.8 for portrait
> 28 (whenever that will be released) as 35mm equivalent (kinda)
> no wideangle zoom or prime, maybe a cheap china MF lens will be released at some point (12mm Rokinon or something like that)

I like the Z user interface, good video handling as well, nice portability etc. Only thing I really miss is IBIS and a 16-80 f2.8-4 kinda lens and I dont think they will ever make one

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2021 20:38:43 No.3791101 Report

Quoted By: >>3791106

>>3791100
canon has ibis and a 24-70

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2021 21:04:12 No.3791106 Report

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>>3791101
If you are talking about R5/R6 these cameras are unfortunately out of my price range :(

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2021 21:25:24 No.3791111 Report

Quoted By:

>>3790672
Jared is also hopping on the Nikon wagon lately. Nikon chads win again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2021 22:58:38 No.3791164 Report

Quoted By: >>3791194

>>3791100
remember you are buying into an ecosystem, not camera body.
the z-mount apsc system is barren and unlikely to be filled out. if you want apsc, fuji is the only real game in town.
save up a little bit more for the z5.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2021 23:56:09 No.3791194 Report

Quoted By:

>>3791164
kek, and people wonder why you fujislugs get hate on this board
Fuji crop lenses are as expensive as Nikon full frame ones and less sharp. And the Nikon full frame lenses provide an easy upgrade path.
The biggest problem with Nikon Z is the overpriced FTZ adapter.
Zero reason to buy an inferior Fuji for manlets with tiny hands.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2021 23:58:39 No.3791195 Report

Quoted By:

>>3791100
I wouldn't get one because I refuse to use a mini screen as a viewfinder, but if you like it then honestly why not. You can buy full frame lenses and upgrade later down the line to a Z5 or something like that. Buy the Z50 used so that you can avoid taking a loss when you sell it to upgrade.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 02:48:07 No.3791286 Report

Quoted By:

>>3791100
>$899 with the 16-50mm kit lens
The RP just went on sale over Black Friday for $999 with the 24-105mm kit lens......

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