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MFT General - David Thorpe Edition

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 21:23:57 No.3877762 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>3877821 >>3878360 >>3882472 >>3889989 >>3890960 >>3891711 >>3891712 >>3891787

the patron saint of mft is terminally ill and posted a last video.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 21:25:33 No.3877767 Report

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Man I wa a genuinely upset when I watched that.
Such a lovely man but I had noticed his voice had been getting frail and his hands more and more shakey.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 21:26:31 No.3877770 Report

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Am saddened to hear this :/

Link for the lazy:

https://youtu.be/vXRABA_eUUA

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 21:30:17 No.3877774 Report

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Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 21:30:24 No.3877776 Report

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Imagine it's the end times and you're about to die just months before the final conflagration and your last hurrah is to leave a 39 second YouTube video encouraging people to grow in their microfourthirds habit.

That's what I'd call: A Wasted Life

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 21:38:17 No.3877785 Report

Quoted By: >>3884813

the guy was really more than a reviewer, I read his blog, and was a fan of his poetic/pragmatic style of making videos. Take a look at this for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3RB_omqgQE

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 22:48:38 No.3877821 Report

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>>3877762
I didn't know the man but I really enjoyed his video about style.

I'm sure he will be missed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 May 2021 01:24:59 No.3877884 Report

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It‘s sad I didn’t know him while he was active. I‘m ten videos in, an he has all but convinced me to get into MFT. I‘ve only ever had APSC compacts with fixed lenses so far because I didn’t feel the need to decide on a system.
But dammit, I‘ll take MFT more seriously from now on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 May 2021 02:13:14 No.3877915 Report

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old 2014 interview with David
https://youtu.be/nakSkcfAvTE

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 06 May 2021 18:20:02 No.3878242 Report

Quoted By: >>3878286 >>3878288

Alright, so I found an old Olympus E-420 DSLR among my dad's stuff, and it even comes with a 40-150, a 14-42 and a 25 pancake lens.
As I understand it, this if the predecessor to MFT, just called Four Thirds. Would these lenses work on a MFT DSLM? I've been wanting to get one for a while, and having all these lenses from the start would be cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 May 2021 19:24:18 No.3878286 Report

Quoted By: >>3878291

>>3878242
>As I understand it, this if the predecessor to MFT, just called Four Thirds. Would these lenses work on a MFT DSLM? I've been wanting to get one for a while, and having all these lenses from the start would be cool.
They work but you need an adapter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 May 2021 19:26:29 No.3878288 Report

Quoted By: >>3878297

>>3878242
yes but make sure you use e-m1 ii or iii or e-m5 iii, af is only good on pdaf bodies

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 May 2021 19:34:42 No.3878291 Report

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>>3878286
And Pdaf, something only the em1 has. They work but not as well on the others.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 May 2021 19:40:57 No.3878293 Report

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>>3878291
Do they work any worse than native lenses on the others?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 May 2021 19:56:40 No.3878297 Report

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>>3878288
I don't care much for autofocus to be honest. However, focus on these lenses is not mechanical, so at least the body has to be able to interface with the lens 100%

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 May 2021 19:57:39 No.3878298 Report

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I lust after the Evolt E-5 but honestly at the asking prices it's not worth it. I'm a DSLR absolutist and would love to get that reach and the ability to record video, but I'm not going to pay more for it than I paid for my full frame.
I wonder if I'll buy a E-30 at some point.

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Anonymous Thu 06 May 2021 22:55:51 No.3878344 Report

Quoted By: >>3878349 >>3878745

>>3878293
They.... work depending on what the focus motor design is on the lens.
Some lenses work better when adapted to a contrast detection body. Some work like garbage with contrast detection.
You will need either the Olympus or Panasonic adapters for FT anyway. But everything will work as if it were native on MFT due to backwards compatibility built into MFT.
Pic rel is the FT 300mm f/2.8 lens with an x2 teleconverter and FT-MFT adapter mounted on an Olympus Air.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 May 2021 23:06:45 No.3878349 Report

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>>3878344
I recall those lenses looking dreadful by modern standards, very CA heavy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 May 2021 23:17:59 No.3878360 Report

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>>3877762
F

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 06 May 2021 23:33:40 No.3878369 Report

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>>3878349
I never saw any. Tele lenses don't have many problems when they're adapted. Wide angle can get weird corners.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 May 2021 00:36:41 No.3878424 Report

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>>3878369
>Tele lenses don't have many problems when they're adapted. Wide angle can get weird corners.
how come? the optical path is the same

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 May 2021 12:48:45 No.3878711 Report

Quoted By: >>3878745 >>3878924

>>3878424
They're made for different flange distance. Take Zuiko 7-14mm f4 for example. It's brilliant four thirds lens, one of the highlights of the system, but it's barely average when adapted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 May 2021 14:42:05 No.3878745 Report

Quoted By: >>3879462

>>3878711
>>3878344
I guess I'll just go out with the E-420 for now. I mean, hey, I have managed to take nice photos with less than 10MP, I've got every focal length worth having at my disposal, the thing shoots RAW. And ultimately, I can deal with ISO 800 being noisy as fuck. It's a daylight camera.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 May 2021 19:38:23 No.3878821 Report

Quoted By: >>3878937 >>3884420

My dad is a professional photographer, and he likes to say M4/3 cameras are like a small penises.
They can easily fulfill their purpose, and if you're content with having one you are a strong person and deserve respect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 May 2021 21:55:33 No.3878924 Report

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>>3878711
But anon, the adapter literally turns the MFT camera into a FT one sans mirror by extending the flange.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 May 2021 22:12:35 No.3878937 Report

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>>3878821
Why would m4/3 people compensate in penis department? I hear it's the other way around. Big lens, little penis syndrome. You sound like one like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 May 2021 23:11:46 No.3878947 Report

Quoted By: >>3878959

>>3878937
you don't get anon's point, I think. what he's saying is, getting a MFT system is the opposite of compensating. it's being happy with a tiny penis and rightfully being respected for it.
sensor size and penis size are a thing of vanity. if you think you need more, you're lying to yourself because the smaller one gets the job done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 May 2021 23:46:52 No.3878959 Report

Quoted By: >>3882459

>>3878947
I think MFT might be more capable than 35mm format in certain use cases.
Certainly the obvious advantage is more reach on the telephoto side. But I do find that macro on MFT is assisted by the deeper DoF, allowing for nicer shots, especially when focus stacking is unviable for whatever reason.

There are instances that I can see 35mm being more appealing, but let's not forget that it's still also known as "small format".
Heh... There's a lot I really appreciate about MFT, and the only thing that even makes me think about a 35mm mirrorless is the availability of high quality lenses on that system...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 May 2021 23:50:22 No.3878960 Report

Quoted By: >>3879478

40-150mm 2.8, cop or not?

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Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 22:54:15 No.3879462 Report

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>>3878745
jesus I thought I was the only one who still has an E-420
I think you've fallen victim to a misconception, though. I took this on with my E-420 at maximum ISO to see how much detail it retains. Obviously RAW and de-noised in LR, but this is not too bad.
I'd say if you want a color photo you still want to stick to 800 max.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 May 2021 23:24:34 No.3879478 Report

Quoted By: >>3879494 >>3879499

>>3878960
For what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:10:46 No.3879494 Report

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>>3879478
dick pics.
I have a micropenis

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 May 2021 00:37:47 No.3879499 Report

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>>3879478
nature and portraiture

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 May 2021 14:27:05 No.3882459 Report

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>>3878959
I actually prefer shooting landscapes with MFT because of the larger DOF.

Also, if I shoot at f/11+ with FF I can see all the dust spots on the sensor and it's a pain in the ass to clean them all. Never had this issue with MFT.

For portrait though or night photography, FF is way more convenient.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 May 2021 15:25:31 No.3882472 Report

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>>3877762
I hope he gets well, his videos of gx85 also got me into getting my first camera, very tact chap

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 May 2021 22:57:50 No.3883296 Report

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>>3882459
Oh, I hate dust spots.
I haven't checked for them lately, but I've noticed them before when I've either selected an obscene aperture to even attempt not overblowing a winter landscape (low sun position), or if I'm in S mode, selecting a slow shutter speed to get deliberate motion blur for vehicles (and the camera tries to compensate by using f/16 or f/22, even when at ISO 80).

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Anonymous Mon 17 May 2021 21:18:02 No.3883980 Report

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Anonymous Mon 17 May 2021 22:48:35 No.3884026 Report

Quoted By: >>3884179

Did he say he was terminally ill? The video just says that after a long illness, he’s decided to stop posting YouTube videos.

Ken Rockwell

Ken Rockwell Tue 18 May 2021 04:13:07 No.3884179 Report

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>>3884026
He said 'this will probably be his last video'.
Meaning that he'll come back if he can, but doesn't expect to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 18 May 2021 16:51:41 No.3884420 Report

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>>3878821
And my dad works at Nintendo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 06:41:02 No.3884813 Report

Quoted By: >>3887860

>>3877785
All the portraits in this were garbagé

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 May 2021 23:14:27 No.3887860 Report

Quoted By: >>3890961

>>3884813
Have some damn respect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 01:24:13 No.3889981 Report

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Bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 01:41:08 No.3889989 Report

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>>3877762
damn wtf , I enjoyed his videos and just watched the last one and the comments said he passed away yesterday.

rip.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 08:24:47 No.3890150 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 16:14:07 No.3890454 Report

Quoted By: >>3890484 >>3890486

Okay guys, just tell me the best MFT camera and I’ll buy it. I’m tired of my Snoy and can trade it to any MFT body.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 17:20:15 No.3890484 Report

Quoted By: >>3890488

>>3890454
Olympus OM-D E-M1X

cANON

cANON Fri 28 May 2021 17:25:43 No.3890486 Report

Quoted By: >>3890697

>>3890454
There's no such thing as the best, only the best for you. What do you normally shoot? What's important for you in a camera? What's wrong with your Sony that you're tired of? You don't want to be like that guy who traded a Z6 for an X-Tranny and regrets it now (even though MFT is orders of magnitude superior to Fuji trash).
I hope you shoot wildlife, because the only thing better than MFT at wildlife when it comes to system cameras is a Canon 90D and it's a more expensive system.
But if what you're tired of is looking at a screen, MFT won't solve that. Only a DSLR can.
So help me see what you're looking for so that I can help you find what you need. If you're after reach, MFT is a fantastic system. If you're after great stabilization, it's probably the best system you can buy. If you're after video features, it's a heavy hitter too.

cANON

cANON Fri 28 May 2021 17:26:49 No.3890488 Report

Quoted By: >>3890492

>>3890484
That's the highest specced MFT there is, but it may not be the best for anon. It's comically large, for starters.

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Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 17:35:55 No.3890492 Report

Quoted By: >>3890497 >>3890607 >>3890719

>>3890488
If you're seeking the most technically superior camera body in MFT, then the E-M1X is that body.

Right now, 20mp sensors are standard in new MFT bodies and I'd argue that the main feature differences come from the presence of PDAF, computational photography, the ability to record video in ProRes RAW when connected to an Atomos Ninja V Recorder, and... uh... I think that's it.
The most unique body that existed on MFT was the Pen-F, being about as featured as an OM-D model, with a layout more comparable to that of a "street camera" from yesteryear.

cANON

cANON Fri 28 May 2021 17:52:16 No.3890497 Report

Quoted By: >>3890599

>>3890492
The Pen-F is a beauty, it pulls off the retro style without losing originality so it looks timeless. And the art modes seem pretty cool, if gimmicky.
Also don't forget about the GH5S since you mentioned video. That 12MP enlarged sensor is special.
I think if I were to buy a MFT it would be the OM-D E-M1 Mark III, it has most of the bells and whistles of the M-1X with no vertical grip and roughly half the weight.

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Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 20:09:38 No.3890599 Report

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>>3890497
The Pen-F is a very strange camera to handle with lenses that are either longer or specific.
Pic rel is my Pen-F with the 60mm f/2.8 Macro on a focussing rail on a tripod.
It looks stupid, even if it remains fully functional.
I want to get the 40-150mm f/2.8 and after that the 300mm f/4 and then maybe in 2022 the 7-14mm f/2.8 as a zoom for travel photos.
Once I'm satisfied with these lenses, I may consider either the 45 or 75mm f/1.8 primes if I'm called upon for portraiture or the like... and then I'll re-examine the body market to look for a body with PDAF. Right now, I have a soft spot for the E-M5 Mk III.
If I'm ever required to deal with video, I'll consider either the GH5 Mk II or the BGH1.
After I have all the MFT gear I would want, I'll re-examine the FF market, with a specific focus on high res models. The Sigma fp L currently has my attention, but no IBIS and no mechanical shutter are... interesting. Sigma have also yet to put out a 50mm f/1.4 DG DN or any kind of DG DN for the 135mm focal length.
I really like primes, probably because I like film cameras too.

All this competing with my desire to obtain a Canon EOS 3, and probably some second hand lenses in the 35, 50 and 135mm focal lengths. I might take an 85mm over a 135mm... but I enjoy film too much, and using manual focus, manual exposure Contax/Yashica and Leica cameras are starting to annoy me for how often I miss shots while setting the right settings and focus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 20:22:17 No.3890607 Report

Quoted By: >>3890611

>>3890492
The obscenely large body of that camera with the tiny sensor is comical. That being said that camera is insane, the quality of the photos in the om-d magazine produced by this with the various pro lenses is incredible.

I fucking love mft so much bros I hope Olympus announce some more bodies so that I feel less sceptical about investing in lenses worrying about whether my format is going to be supported in the future.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 20:37:34 No.3890611 Report

Quoted By: >>3890626

>>3890607
The entirety of the OM Digital Solutions presentation at CP+ 2021 was basically them explaining what their existence is, what they plan to do overall, and more or less to tell photographer that everything is "going to be alright".
Apparently, the camera division asked Olympus to sell them off, because apparently it's really hard to get R&D and decisions passed off, as Olympus has turned into a medical instruments company, full of doctors and medical technicians making endoscopy, laparoscopy and microscopy technology for surgeons.
It's hard to convince a man who used to be a consultant surgeon to put money towards making a new camera, allegedly.

So OMDS now exists, and the OM is a direct reference to Olympus Maitani, and Yoshihisa Maitani who was responsible for the designing of the OM series of SLRs. They plan to keep his design philosophy in the new company. They plan to also keep the lens roadmap in place, as well as introducing a new camera next year that will take pictures that were "not previously possible".
I'd say that MFT has no FUD, and it's a mostly mature system. Look at Canon RF or Nikon Z and there are still glaring holes in their lineups. Canon lacks primes, Nikon lack macro lenses and constant aperture zooms.
Both are relying on their DSLR lenses to make up for gaps in their lineups. MFT and also Sony E don't have these gaps. Interestingly, L-Mount has a nice lineup of lenses already that I think beats out RF, and gives you much more options than Z.

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Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 20:54:43 No.3890626 Report

Quoted By: >>3890671 >>3910079

>>3890611
nicely summarised anon

bumping with a deer pic

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Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 22:27:22 No.3890671 Report

Quoted By: >>3890680 >>3890682

>>3890626
This is the lens roadmap. This is a slightly older one, however.

Apparently, the next "new" lens they're making is a 100mm macro lens of some kind that will fit into the M.Zuiko Pro lineup (as opposed to the current 60mm macro lens that's part of the "Premium" lineup alongside the f/1.8 primes).
This 100mm macro lens is thought to be a replacement to the Sigma 105mm f/2.8 EX DG Macro HSM lens that was made for Four Thirds. Apparently, loads of macro photographers kept a hold on these lenses and used the FT-MFT adapters, to get the legendary 210mm 35mm equivalent "reach". The new Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN replaces this lens for FF bodies, but OMDS has their own solution. It's as yet unknown what aperture or reproduction ratio it'll achieve.

The next set of lenses that are allegedly in the pipeline are super bright f/1.0 primes which are believed to be for the 17, 25 and 45mm focal lengths. It's thought that these are currently in a "development hell" as Olympus and now OMDS are struggling to work out how to make the autofocus work with these bright lenses, at least with a satisfactory speed and accuracy.

After these two, it's not known what could come next, but since both variable and constant aperture zooms are listed, these may or may not include IS with Sync-IS which can boost stabilisation up to 6 stops. The new 150-400mm zoom has 6.5 stops of stabilisation with Sync-IS.

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Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 22:44:26 No.3890680 Report

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>>3890671
here you go anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 22:47:35 No.3890682 Report

Quoted By: >>3890684 >>3890685 >>3890689 >>3890699

>>3890671
>f/2.0 equivalent
>bright
>buying an f/2.0 prime in 2021

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 22:53:08 No.3890684 Report

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>>3890682
t. toneh

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 22:53:27 No.3890685 Report

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>>3890682
It'll be f/1.0 bright. I don't have the sanity to argue with brain-dead fool framers who have 0 understanding of equivalence.

Also, aren't a lot of the Zeiss primes that people drool over f/2?

cANON

cANON Fri 28 May 2021 22:59:14 No.3890689 Report

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>>3890682
Never go full retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 23:13:16 No.3890697 Report

Quoted By: >>3890723

>>3890486
>(even though MFT is orders of magnitude superior to Fuji trash).
Explain?

xt2nigger

xt2nigger Fri 28 May 2021 23:20:38 No.3890699 Report

Quoted By: >>3902631

>>3890682
2.0 is fine, we used 5.6 max aperture for the longest time
dont tell me your gear defines your photography

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 May 2021 23:54:41 No.3890719 Report

Quoted By: >>3890724

>>3890492
Until Sony lets Oly and Panny start buying the new 50 megapixel sensors, that is

cANON

cANON Sat 29 May 2021 00:01:48 No.3890723 Report

Quoted By: >>3890879

>>3890697
Where to start, really.
Olympus and Panasonic respect their customers, Fuji has contempt for them and it shows in their marketing tactics. They're probably not wrong though, seems like most of the time someone is using the camera in a completely incompetent way here on /p/ it's a Fuji shooter.
With Fuji what you pay is also a lot more than what you get. There's a reason its users are always waiting for discounts, because deep down they know the prices are ripoffs (they still are when discounted, but it's less egregious). Subpar quality at premium prices is the name of Fuji's game. I'm not just talking about build quality but optical quality and more.

cANON

cANON Sat 29 May 2021 00:02:52 No.3890724 Report

Quoted By: >>3890728 >>3890731

>>3890719
Are they even confirmed to exist?
Also remember that high res sensors can be troublesome if you want video or fast FPS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 00:05:29 No.3890728 Report

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>>3890724
Sony's newest ones are 47-50mp, I don't see why they would hoard them.
Sony are retarded in that they never label camera sensors correctly. So they label consumer camera sensors as being made for security cameras
Even though no one makes security cams with large sensors

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 00:14:36 No.3890731 Report

Quoted By: >>3890754 >>3890946 >>3891945

>>3890724
Is 50mp on MFT even worth it?
I know MFT sensors make FF lenses look like crap when adapted, so would that happen too with current MFT lenses designed about the time the top of the range cameras were 16mp, being put on bodies with nearly 3 times the resolution?

cANON

cANON Sat 29 May 2021 00:37:50 No.3890754 Report

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>>3890731
>I know MFT sensors make FF lenses look like crap when adapted, so would that happen too with current MFT lenses designed about the time the top of the range cameras were 16mp, being put on bodies with nearly 3 times the resolution?
Not all FF lenses, and there's the possibility that the lenses would hold up well. Some of Pentax's lenses from the early 2000s are still golden.

xt2nigger

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xt2nigger Sat 29 May 2021 03:34:41 No.3890879 Report

Quoted By: >>3890913 >>3890921

>>3890723
dont start with that
Olympus is way overpriced not to mention with smaller sensor and have f4 equivalent prime lenses

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 03:42:45 No.3890880 Report

Quoted By: >>3890892 >>3890896

I have a high MP full frame camera and a couple of primes, for the price of this kit i can buy a an em1-3, the whole f2.8 lens setup and have some money to spare.

I wanna do it but the hit in image quality is massive ... What do?

xt2nigger

xt2nigger Sat 29 May 2021 04:06:18 No.3890892 Report

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>>3890880
would you cut your full sized penis into a micro penis?

theres your answer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 04:20:12 No.3890896 Report

Quoted By: >>3890905

>>3890880
The hit on image quality isn't that hard, the problem is that you'll lose background separation ability and low light performance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 04:27:09 No.3890902 Report

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she comes for us all

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Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 04:40:42 No.3890905 Report

Quoted By: >>3890919 >>3890921 >>3891777 >>3891780

>>3890896
>lose background separation
Do the 1.2 Pro primes give good enough separation for most things? How different is it from APS-C f1.2?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 05:27:38 No.3890912 Report

Quoted By: >>3890930

I'm basically just waiting for a 20MP Panasonic GX9 successor. The form factor is fantastic and I've found my gf's GX9 an absolute joy to use. I couldn't downgrade to 17MP from what I have now, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 05:30:02 No.3890913 Report

Quoted By: >>3890921 >>3891027

>>3890879
pretty much this. No one's saying MFT can't produce great photos, but offering a camera with that tiny of a sensor for $1000 or more should be a criminal offense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 05:44:06 No.3890919 Report

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>>3890905
m43 is exactly a 2x crop factor, so with f/1.2 you'll get as much separation as you'd get with f/2.4 on full frame, or roughly F/1.5 on APS-C. that's not bad at all.

cANON

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cANON Sat 29 May 2021 05:46:57 No.3890921 Report

Quoted By: >>3890923 >>3890948 >>3891027

>>3890879
I'd much rather take the Olympus than those pieces of trash, thank you very much.
X-T30 specially is a joke. Overheating POS.
>>3890913
Not much smaller than APS-C. There's more to a camera than sensor size. X-Trans, specially X-Trans IV is horrible.
And then there's the terrible lenses on the Fuji system priced like full frame. With MFT at least you can get a good system without spending much.
>>3890905
1.2 would be 1.92 equivalent on APS-C and 2.4 equivalent on MFT.
Of course everything has a flip side and it means you can shoot wide open while getting a forgiving depth of field.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 06:03:46 No.3890923 Report

Quoted By: >>3890924

>>3890921
>X-Trans is horrible
>terrible lenses on the Fuji system
You can prefer Olly without memeing yourself into oblivion.

cANON

cANON Sat 29 May 2021 06:08:29 No.3890924 Report

Quoted By: >>3890928 >>3890931 >>3890934

>>3890923
Fuji lenses are soft and expensive though. It's so bad that it's common for Fuji users to use adapted BASEDNON L glass.
Say what you will about Fuji, that you like their looks or the way they deal with aliasing, but at the end of the day it's the worst brand in the market closely followed by Sony.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 06:20:04 No.3890928 Report

Quoted By: >>3890931 >>3890935

>>3890924
>It's so bad that it's common for Fuji users to use adapted BASEDNON L glass.
ive literally never seen this. you don't have to lie as part of your larping.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 06:23:17 No.3890930 Report

Quoted By:

>>3890912
don't wait. doesn't look like there is a successor coming, so you might as well get into m4/3 now with whatever camera you enjoy, and in the unlikely event that a new GX is made you can keep your lenses and swap bodies. 17mp isn't too bad, especially considering that you're looking at a 4:3 aspect ratio. on any other system you'd have to crop in and lose resolution to get this superior aspect ratio.
3:2 is truly a joke.

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Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 06:27:32 No.3890931 Report

Quoted By: >>3890935 >>3890947

>>3890928
>>3890924
>fuji lenses are soft
shot on my X100F, which is considered to have a very soft lens "even" by Fuji standards.

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Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 06:33:14 No.3890934 Report

Quoted By: >>3890935

>>3890924
>soft
Hey man, I was just asking if the 1.2 Pros could compete with Fuji stuff. If they really are significantly better, that's awesome... forgive me for being skeptical when you say things so extreme, though.

cANON

cANON Sat 29 May 2021 06:43:56 No.3890935 Report

Quoted By: >>3890937 >>3890954

>>3890928
Tell that to Fringer, lol.
>>3890931
Is this supposed to be impressive?
>>3890934
Most lenses are sharp enough when you stop down that much.
But don't believe me, look at the archived threads where people post their shots. They're very crisp. And the stabilization is out of this world.
There was some really nice night shot some anon uploaded a while ago, it was definitely bluish and probably had snow, with some neon sign. It was really good stuff and he says he took it handheld.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 06:45:56 No.3890937 Report

Quoted By: >>3890939

>>3890935
>Is this supposed to be impressive?
well, it is very sharp. not as sharp as my GR III, but it's still more than anyone could ask for from a lens

cANON

cANON Sat 29 May 2021 06:50:58 No.3890939 Report

Quoted By: >>3890940

>>3890937
The digital sharpening is very noticeable, probably applied by the camera itself. Gives it an annoying 1/2.3" look.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 06:53:21 No.3890940 Report

Quoted By: >>3890941

>>3890939
unless fuji applies digital sharpening to RAW files, nothing of the likes was done to this photo. not in camera, not in lightroom.

cANON

cANON Sat 29 May 2021 06:55:40 No.3890941 Report

Quoted By:

>>3890940
I don't know when or where it was applied but it has that uncanny valley quality to the rendering that's very annoying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 07:12:17 No.3890946 Report

Quoted By:

>>3890731
High megapixel counts were born from the need to make fashion photography prints that can be blown up to show on the side of a building without jaggies on the edges

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 07:15:51 No.3890947 Report

Quoted By:

>>3890931
I think Fuji photos are soft because their noise algorithms are retarded and smear the details while reducing noise

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 07:19:32 No.3890948 Report

Quoted By: >>3890953

>>3890921
The perceived increase in DoF is an illusion created by your working distance between you and the subject

cANON

cANON Sat 29 May 2021 07:39:01 No.3890953 Report

Quoted By:

>>3890948
That's not what's happening. The increase of DoF happens because to achieve the same framing as you would on full frame you use a lens that's half as long, and physical focal length is inversely proportional to depth of field.
If you use a 25mm f/1.4 lens you get the depth of field corresponding to 25mm f/1.4 no matter the sensor size.
Which is the same as a 50mm f/2.8, and this is where equivalence becomes valuable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 07:41:52 No.3890954 Report

Quoted By: >>3890956 >>3891030

>>3890935
>Tell that to Fringer, lol.
do lots of fuji shooters walk around with a fringer adapter and adapter ef glass, since you call it common? gearfaggots are so easily triggered by fuji.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 07:51:35 No.3890956 Report

Quoted By: >>3902638 >>3902639 >>3902659

>>3890954
>gearfaggots are so easily triggered by fuji.
Brand whores are the worst kind of gearfag, lol. And that's what the average Fuji user is.
Fuji cameras are the fashion statement of someone with kitsch taste. They're the fake Rolex of the camera world, what people get when they want a Leica for its looks but can't afford it and don't care about the experience or image quality that Leica offers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 08:21:03 No.3890960 Report

Quoted By: >>3891785

>>3877762
local bestbuy has a G85 with 12-60 3.5 vario lens new in open box for $655.

cheapest im seeing them on fleabay used for is $450ish body only, the 12-60 would add another $200 anyhow

should I?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 08:24:06 No.3890961 Report

Quoted By:

>>3887860
earn it, cuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 12:16:59 No.3891027 Report

Quoted By: >>3891036 >>3891171

>>3890913
>>3890921
Arguing that MFT has no bokeh is something people who never use MFT say.
Even stepped down to f/2.8 or even f/4, and most lenses will still give you a lot of bokeh and separation of subject.
But if you really need it, the f/1.8 lenses especially the 45 and 75mm ones will give you the bokeh you desire.
Expecting a lot of bokeh from a wide angle lens is pretty... dumb imo. Plus, no one ever had this discussion 20 years ago. Mostly because people weren't relying on Bokeh for poor shot composition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 12:29:33 No.3891030 Report

Quoted By:

>>3890954
Fuji fucking sucks, it’s the Apple of the camera world but unlike Apple, has no feats to back its obnoxious brand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 12:44:21 No.3891036 Report

Quoted By: >>3891075 >>3891773 >>3891774

>>3891027
It just doesn't feel as right as an f1.2-8 on FF, a 35mm f1.4 equiv doesn't exist for MFT, you are forced into going with a long focal length to compensate a bit (the oly 75mm f1.8)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 14:30:59 No.3891075 Report

Quoted By: >>3891076

>>3891036
I don't know about you, but I like 35mm for travel, architecture, street and landscape photography.
In that situation, the f/1.4 allows for at least lower light use.
Shallow depth of field just isn't something that comes to mind for the sorts of shots I'd take with such a lens.

Maybe it's just the fact that I shoot quite a bit of film, but I find that being "locked" to a single ISO during the roll makes you rethink your approach to aperture and depth of field. Unless I'm explicitly seeking bokeh, I just don't think exceptionally large apertures with wide angle lenses are worthwhile, unless you're doing a lot of night shots and want to avoid overly high ISOs.
I think a lot of people keep forgetting the exposure triangle when seeking the shallowest depth of field.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 14:33:14 No.3891076 Report

Quoted By: >>3891188

>>3891075
Just
>Use e-shutter at 1/32000
>Ms at 1/8000
>ND Filter

cANON

cANON Sat 29 May 2021 17:41:51 No.3891171 Report

Quoted By: >>3891188

>>3891027
I'm not saying it has no bokeh, I'm saying that even wide open it's more forgiving. With FF shooting close objects indoors with no extra lighting and no tripod is a nightmare sometimes, you have to stop down to like f/8 to get the shot you want (for example a close up shot of a guitar from the bridge blurring only the neck and headstock). And then banding noise rears its ugly head and you have to ameliorate it in post but it never looks quite right. I'm certain it would be an easy shot on MFT. It's already not hard on APS-C. I guess I could use a wider lens and crop the image on FF, but the loss of resolution is pretty big and I prefer composing on the viewfinder anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 18:01:24 No.3891188 Report

Quoted By: >>3894651

>>3891076
Yeah, lemme just get my mechanical film camera to go up to 8000... oh wait no, after 1000 it goes back to B....
I didn't know that film has an electronic shutter though, I must look into this!

But regardless... I don't really see a point to shallow depth of field in wide angle photography. I don't exactly do any portraiture, and if I did, I'd probably obtain a mid-tele prime. You and I probably think about aperture in very different ways depending on the focal length.
>>3891171
Oh, I see what you mean now.
Yeah, I suppose having margin of error when up close is good. I've been frustrated enough with handheld macro shots, so I know what you mean, but unless someone comes up with "z axis IBIS", I think it's just another fact of life. I can't imagine what medium format users go through.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 23:19:02 No.3891371 Report

Quoted By: >>3891379

what's a good macro lens to adapt to m43 for scanning film?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 May 2021 23:32:20 No.3891379 Report

Quoted By: >>3891915

>>3891371
Probably some 25mm macro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 May 2021 11:11:20 No.3891711 Report

Quoted By:

>>3877762
I don't understand this camera. whats the big

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Anonymous Sun 30 May 2021 11:13:11 No.3891712 Report

Quoted By: >>3891721 >>3891982

>>3877762
i don't understand this camera. what's the big porthole for? I can't imagine how it would do anything. it's too big to help aim the camera, it's not part of a rangefinder... is it just an alternative viewfinder? my mouth hurts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 May 2021 11:45:28 No.3891721 Report

Quoted By: >>3891722 >>3891982

>>3891712
Sportsfinder

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 May 2021 11:47:12 No.3891722 Report

Quoted By: >>3891733

>>3891721
>Sportsfinder
what

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Anonymous Sun 30 May 2021 12:22:02 No.3891733 Report

Quoted By: >>3891982 >>3892055

>>3891722

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Anonymous Sun 30 May 2021 14:34:09 No.3891773 Report

Quoted By: >>3891828 >>3902661

>>3891036
Here's the 17mm 1.8 bokeh

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 30 May 2021 14:35:15 No.3891774 Report

Quoted By:

>>3891036
Another sample, its harder to get separation with wides but no impossible

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Anonymous Sun 30 May 2021 14:37:24 No.3891777 Report

Quoted By:

>>3890905
Yes, i got this one with the ttartisan 50mm 1.2

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Anonymous Sun 30 May 2021 14:42:09 No.3891780 Report

Quoted By:

>>3890905 to be fair the olympus 45mm 1.8 is the more practical choice. The bokeh smoothness is excelent, i got the ttartisan as a complement for thinner DoF and because it was dirt cheap.

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Anonymous Sun 30 May 2021 14:48:26 No.3891785 Report

Quoted By:

>>3890960
Yes, i have it, excelent camera, the 12-60 is very sharp except in the extreme corner and it's extremely convenient.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 May 2021 14:53:34 No.3891787 Report

Quoted By:

>>3877770
>>3877762
fuck that is sad. i had no idea he passed away. i just recently watched his video on the M.Zuiko Digital 40-150mm and decided to snag one off ebay for 40 bucks. i'll take some bird creepshots in his honor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 May 2021 15:46:14 No.3891807 Report

Quoted By:

aside from that one "hurr durr fuji bad" retard, this is a good thread
finally I've seen some photos that make me actually consider MFT. it's been a very long time since I've had an interchangable lens camera. and I've been considering MFT, but I was kinda worried about the artificial "digital" look that some people talk about. I don't see that. maybe this comes from idiots who set their sharpening to crazy values in post?
I'm still torn on it. all this talk of MFT being dead are kinda disheartening to be honest. I've come across several cameras that I really like, and I'm fine with 20MP, but surely this can't be the end of the line? not with so much fantastic glass available for the system. I'd hate to buy some good lenses only to find that in 5 or 10 years time there's not one modern body to use them with.

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Anonymous Sun 30 May 2021 15:52:16 No.3891813 Report

Quoted By: >>3897936 >>3917566

What does /p/ think about That Micro 4/3 Guy?
He's a fucking based RAF veteran, so that's a plus in my book. Much like David (RIP) he doesn't do shit for Instagram and he sure as hell doesn't talk like a shy eigth grader or use lofi stock music.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 May 2021 16:21:53 No.3891828 Report

Quoted By: >>3891836 >>3891863 >>3892321

>>3891773
That's wide-open? Bro ... It's just too little.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 May 2021 16:26:57 No.3891836 Report

Quoted By:

>>3891828
It should be equivalent to f/3.6 on full frame or something like f/2.4 on most APS-C systems
Now, I've never used full frame, but from my experience with f/2.8 on APS-C, I'm pretty sure this photo was not wide open.

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Anonymous Sun 30 May 2021 17:36:09 No.3891863 Report

Quoted By: >>3891879 >>3891882

>>3891828
yes, distance from subject is what determines depht of field

cANON

cANON Sun 30 May 2021 18:11:23 No.3891879 Report

Quoted By: >>3891974

>>3891863
I hate to use these words but that reductionism is sensorlet cope. DoF is governed by focal length, aperture, and yes, distance to subject. It's a bit like the exposure triangle. The closer you focus the less stuff you get in focus, the longer your lens the less you get in focus, the lower the f-number the less you get in focus.
Which is why MFT is so great for landscape photography.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 May 2021 18:32:14 No.3891882 Report

Quoted By:

>>3891863
I just can't say I wouldn't like it a bit more blurry ... Real sad about that ...

And aps-c glass is pretty much as expensive as FF glass ...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 May 2021 20:01:10 No.3891915 Report

Quoted By:

>>3891379
why is 50mm equivalent the best focal lengtrh for scanning 35mm film?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 May 2021 21:31:10 No.3891945 Report

Quoted By: >>3891946

>>3890731
>I know MFT sensors make FF lenses look like crap when adapted
Why? Do you have examples?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 May 2021 21:43:33 No.3891946 Report

Quoted By: >>3892002

>>3891945
He probably means old lenses that are sharp enough for bigger pixels but not for MFT.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 May 2021 23:48:41 No.3891974 Report

Quoted By: >>3891999

>>3891879
I know man, do I have to type a huge chunk of text? dont be autistic

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 00:10:03 No.3891982 Report

Quoted By: >>3892057

>>3891721
>>3891733
Just repeating "sportsfinder" isn't really a helpful response.

>>3891712
> what's the big porthole for? I can't imagine how it would do anything. it's too big to help aim the camera, it's not part of a rangefinder... is it just an alternative viewfinder?
Basically, yes, it's just an alternative viewfinder.

Back in the days before autofocus, the way you'd shoot fast-moving action was that you'd basically zone-focus your lens to capture a chunk of the scene, then use a finder like that to frame it. It was pretty loose and sloppy, but it had the advantage that it was extremely quick and cheap to add to a camera and you could see the scene outside of it just as easily as the scene inside of it, so you could see if someone was about to run into frame to do something interesting and photogenic.

These were especially helpful on cameras like 4x5 large format press cameras--the other option was usually a ground glass on the back which would give you an upside-down view of the scene and require you to hide under a dark cloth if you wanted to actually be able to make anything out, and then to actually take the picture you'd need to
1. Close the shutter
1a. Potentially slide out the ground glass? I know most press cameras like this have a little system where you slide a film holder in underneath the ground glass, but I don't know if that's universal.
2. Slide a film holder into the camera
3. Remove the dark slide
4. Take the picture

At which point the action has moved far away from where it was when you started all of this.

Compare with a sports finder, where you would have the lens already pre-cocked and ready to go, already have the film in the camera and the dark slide removed, and already have the focus set to roughly where you want the scene to be in focus, the procedure becomes:
1. Take the photo

The most common scenario where you'd need something like this is sports, hence the name.

You see it a lot on large format cameras and TLRs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 00:37:52 No.3891999 Report

Quoted By:

>>3891974
Are you from a black school? type what you need to, don't expect people to know your thoughts like a real autist thinks should happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 00:42:37 No.3892002 Report

Quoted By:

>>3891946
Yet they do fine in video mode

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 02:36:34 No.3892055 Report

Quoted By: >>3892057

>>3891733
how would this help me find sports

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 02:44:18 No.3892057 Report

Quoted By:

>>3892055
See >>3891982

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Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 11:23:18 No.3892280 Report

Quoted By: >>3892295 >>3892310

Hey guise just heer to remind yu that yu bettar not buy foo fraame!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 11:50:03 No.3892295 Report

Quoted By:

>>3892280
Fuck off, leave Robin alone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 12:21:39 No.3892310 Report

Quoted By: >>3892317

>>3892280
I really feel tempted by the Sigma fp L.
There's certainly one area that MFT will never reach into, and that's very high res cameras, and that's ok.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 12:58:02 No.3892317 Report

Quoted By: >>3892481

>>3892310
>very high res cameras
Sony released a 47MP MFT sensor in 2019

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Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 13:02:24 No.3892321 Report

Quoted By: >>3892462 >>3892522

>>3891828
depends a lot on your focal length, distance to subject, and the subject's distance to the background. I finally got a new battery for the E-420 I mentioned here a few weeks ago, so here's an example for the bokeh you can get under the right circumstances. I know this isn't really MFT because it's a DSLR, but it's the same sensor size.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 17:02:34 No.3892462 Report

Quoted By: >>3892470

>>3892321
guess it's very good to see that it's possible to get some background separation even with MFT. the system is getting more attractive to me through this thread. what lens did you use here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 17:27:31 No.3892470 Report

Quoted By:

>>3892462
This was the Zuiko 40-150mm 1:4-5.6

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 18:04:36 No.3892481 Report

Quoted By: >>3892487 >>3892522

>>3892317
And neither Oly nor Pana have implemented that sensor in a body since.
I also don't believe that neither company hasn't attempted to make some kind of prototype using this sensor.
There must be some kind of reason, perhaps cost, perhaps image quality that wasn't optimal with certain existing MFT lenses, perhaps camera bodies that couldn't handle the image sizes, especially if in raw+jpeg modes. There could have been concerns with overheating maybe. Who knows, it's all speculation for now, but unless OMDS or Panasonic come out and announce a 47mp camera body, then it's maybe worthwhile to image that somewhere, sometime ago, a decision was made not to use the Sony sensor.

I know Sony and some other companies make a bunch of sensors and other imaging tech with the idea that it mightn't make it's way into a consumer body, but it might pave the way for a derivative technology.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 18:21:05 No.3892487 Report

Quoted By: >>3892529

>>3892481
afaik Olympus and Panasonic haven't come out with really anything new in that time. And I'm not even saying that they'll implement this sensor within the next couple on generations, but it's very feasible that they're going to match most APS-C manufacturers in resolution with whatever bodies they have coming up

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 19:33:23 No.3892522 Report

Quoted By: >>3892529

>>3892321
Same thing really, don't worry, the E-420 is good for the thread (:

Needing to use such a tight focal length is a big no for me, but thanks for showing a sample.

I really loved the 40-150 on my em10

>>3892481
And I fucking wonder why haven't they, what's the hold up? Why keep using 20mp sensors on MFT?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 May 2021 19:55:37 No.3892529 Report

Quoted By: >>3892782 >>3894695

>>3892487
>>3892522

The gh6 and em1-iii were probably halfway through development when that new sensor was released, so maybe it will show up in the g10 or em1-iv (if that is a thing) in a few years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 04:52:21 No.3892782 Report

Quoted By: >>3894695

>>3892529
I can imagine they‘ll increase resolution, but it‘s probably gonna take several generations before they implement a crazy 47mp sensor.
I mean, an MFT sensor is 1/4 of the surface area of full frame. That means even the current 20mp sensors already have the same pixel density as an 80mp FF camera, and how many of those are there?
If Olympus and Panasonic move to 26mp that’s gonna be equivalent to 104 mp on full frame. Crazy density in its own right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jun 2021 10:02:17 No.3893449 Report

Quoted By: >>3893504 >>3893804

How can I take better pictures with the g9, have the 300 ii on..

can't seem to get sharpness on birds, it feels like it isn't even a cropped version of 600mm ff..

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jun 2021 12:44:18 No.3893504 Report

Quoted By: >>3893513

>>3893449
I've heard several accounts that say the lens you're using can't focus reliably beyond 200mm.
If by "300 ii" you mean the Vario 100-300mm 4.0-5.6 II

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jun 2021 13:06:16 No.3893513 Report

Quoted By:

>>3893504
yes! ouf that might be the case then.. yuck

been testing alot of different settings.. just couldn't get it to work

thanks

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Anonymous Wed 02 Jun 2021 23:24:44 No.3893804 Report

Quoted By:

>>3893449
use fast shutter speed and dual IS

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 07:41:30 No.3894651 Report

Quoted By: >>3894692

>>3891188
olympus has focus bracketing, kind of like z axis ibis you mention if you want to go through the shots

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 10:31:32 No.3894692 Report

Quoted By:

>>3894651
Focus bracketing uses the electronic shutter and requires a tripod.
I've used it, it's ok. The only trouble is that you need to stich images in post and there are only 2 real free options for that - PicoLay, which which has support for .nef and .dng files but none for anything else (and no support for .orf) and Olympus Workspace, that doesn't even let you edit the stacked image.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 10:35:11 No.3894695 Report

Quoted By:

>>3892529
>>3892782
The G10 already exists, it's a lower-end G2, which itself was a stripped-down GH1
>>3892782
I think the reason for the density, besides 8k video, would be for doing giant fashion prints like you see done with hi-res Phase One DSLRs and 120 film cameras

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Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 10:38:23 No.3894698 Report

Quoted By: >>3894706 >>3894716 >>3915975

There are alleged leaks for a new Olympus camera from OMDS.
It's supposedly the Pen E-P7 and immediately, it looks like a bootleg Pen-F.
Yet, unlike most of the E series of cameras, it has 2 control dials, suggesting that it might have handling of an E-M10. The screen flips down just like in the E-M10.
There's also a strange switch on the front that moves to a "COLOR/MONO" position, much like the Pen-F's art filter dial (which was reminiscent of the original Pen F's shutter speed selector).
There's no EVF - it's as yet unknown if it'll support the hotshoe mounted EVF that some other PEN cameras do.

Not much else is known, but this thing looks even more like the original Pen F than the Pen-F did.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 10:43:03 No.3894700 Report

Quoted By: >>3894716

There are also alleged leaks that OMDS is going to make a new lens, the Olympus M.Zuiko 8-25mm f/4 ED Pro.
This seems to fit alongside the 24-100mm f/4 already in use, and would seemingly appeal to people on their travels, albeit not people looking for a lot of bokeh or low light performance.
This still maintains the position of the 7-14mm f/2.8 zoom and also seems to offer being wider than the Panasonic Leica 10-25mm f/1.7 which is arguably more designed for video.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 11:21:13 No.3894706 Report

Quoted By: >>3894746

>>3894698
It's been a while since either Olympus and Panasonic have release worthwhile updates to their lineup. Pretty much the reason why I'm not buying yet. I'd be fine with an older model, but if they come out with something better and the prices on used cameras drop a bit, that's worth waiting for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 11:44:18 No.3894716 Report

Quoted By: >>3894733

>>3894700
>>3894698
I think the 47mp sensor could appear in the EM1XII

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 12:39:41 No.3894733 Report

Quoted By: >>3894740 >>3894771

>>3894716
Excuse me if I'm skeptical, but the pixel density on this thing has to be beyond good and evil. I find it hard to believe that you can even speak of "low light performance" with a sensor like that in the current year. Most APS-C cameras are still sitting comfortably below 30MP and I honestly believe it'd be better to aim at a resolution in that ballpark for MFT

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 12:59:41 No.3894740 Report

Quoted By: >>3894757

>>3894733
maybe thats the goal. instead of trying to larp as a night vision goggle, maximise its strengths.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 13:11:07 No.3894746 Report

Quoted By: >>3894757

>>3894706
If the E-P7 is a 20.3mp body, then this makes it the highest resolution Pen camera that's ever been made, with the exception of the Pen-F.
The E-PL9 is currently Olympus' only Pen camera on the market and it's a 16mp body. All 3 OM-D models are now 20mp which is at least a good direction to be going in, especially if in time, the higher end cameras start going to 24mp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 13:43:43 No.3894757 Report

Quoted By:

>>3894740
>>3894746
I'm not even sure if I'd need more than 20MP... I mean if they can do it while retaining or improving on dynamic range, that's great and I'll buy into that. But I've never had more than 16MP so far, so even 20 would be quite the significant upgrade for me.
Let's see what the second half of 2021 brings.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 14:38:46 No.3894771 Report

Quoted By:

>>3894733
On demand quad bayer design that's available on phones, and it can be great in both worlds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Jun 2021 20:04:22 No.3895660 Report

Quoted By: >>3896606

Ist MFT a boomer system? When it comes to stills photography you only ever see retired guys in their 60s use these cameras for their photography clubs.
With a younger audience MFT only seems to be popular for video.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 06 Jun 2021 20:00:50 No.3896596 Report

Quoted By:

More 8-25mm f/4 info out.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 06 Jun 2021 20:02:55 No.3896599 Report

Quoted By: >>3896601 >>3897010

E-P7 is said to have 5-stop IBIS which is in line with the OM-D series.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 06 Jun 2021 20:04:13 No.3896601 Report

Quoted By: >>3896603 >>3897010

>>3896599
The E-P7 is also set up with a 180° tilting screen.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 06 Jun 2021 20:06:23 No.3896603 Report

Quoted By: >>3896657 >>3897010 >>3897039 >>3900906 >>3901277

>>3896601
The E-P7 has some fairly reasonable ergo for a camera of its configuration.
No word on if it's got a metal or plastic body.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Jun 2021 20:12:26 No.3896606 Report

Quoted By:

>>3895660
Well, its light and has ibis which is great for old chaps

And its cheap for college students to start out their youtube channel, also fun to rig with

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Jun 2021 21:47:08 No.3896657 Report

Quoted By: >>3897010

>>3896603
The E-P5 was a metal body

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Jun 2021 07:09:12 No.3897010 Report

Quoted By:

>>3896657
>>3896603
>>3896601
>>3896599
if this turns out to be true, I think I'll give MFT a shot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Jun 2021 08:10:12 No.3897039 Report

Quoted By: >>3897153 >>3897188 >>3915978

>>3896603
>no custom modes
this is kinda concerning ngl

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Jun 2021 14:25:26 No.3897153 Report

Quoted By: >>3897208

>>3897039
Yeah. The whole thing looks much more like the E-P5 than the PEN-F. If they're actually leaving out the viewfinder again I'll be seriously disappointed, unless they also come up with a PEN-F Mk II to serve the higher end rangefinder style.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Jun 2021 15:49:47 No.3897188 Report

Quoted By: >>3897208 >>3897744

>>3897039
>custom modes
What do you use them for?
I could never really understand them. I only really go between the PASM modes anyway.
Any setting like ISO, WB and metering is easily accessible through the super control panel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Jun 2021 16:32:28 No.3897208 Report

Quoted By:

>>3897188
I like to set up one of them to do exposure bracketing (for HDR and stuff)
Depending on the camera I like to use auto ISO a lot, and setting up the ranged of allowed ISOs works very well that way. One mode for daylight, one mode for low light.
But aside from that I always find it concerning when they remove features. It's like >>3897153 said. This isn't the Pen F successor many of us have been waiting for. I hope they make one, though. The Pen F was brilliant, but now it's just kinda old and kinda expensive for what it is.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 12:41:20 No.3897740 Report

Quoted By:

This is a very good lens for the price. I bought one in working clean condition for around 30 dollars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 12:51:00 No.3897744 Report

Quoted By:

>>3897188
>What do you use [custom modes] for?
Not him, but here a couple of the ways I use custom modes:

Model photoshoot
1. M mode with exposure set up for my lighting
2. M mode with exposure set up for my lighting but at f/1.2 for my special soft portrait lens
3. Av with the external flashes deactivated for when I see some good light

Flow performances (e.g., fire spinning, LED hoops/poi, etc)
1. M with flashes to freeze action
2. M slow shutter with flashes so I can get light trails
3. Av, no flash

Without custom modes, switching between those would take like four or five settings adjustments each, during which the model/performer is most likely going to be in the middle of doing something cool. With them, it's just one small turn of the mode dial to go back and forth between them.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 18:54:19 No.3897916 Report

Quoted By: >>3897982

I got the 40-150mm f/2.8 and it's such a fun lens to use. I didn't expect it to be so enjoyable.
The tripod ring/socket gets in the way a bit, but I'll hold off on thinking if I should get the decoration ring for it.
Overall package with the Pen-F (with the ECG-4 grip) is actually surprisingly comfy. I may post some example pics soon.
The only two lenses I want to get now are the 300mm f/4 and 7-14mm f/2.8. Oh, and probably that 1.4× teleconverter.
(I also have the lens hood, don't worry, I just took it off for the pic rel)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 19:27:16 No.3897936 Report

Quoted By:

>>3891813
based, a nice mixture of photography and gear talk, he needs to improve audio balance on his videos tho.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 20:30:15 No.3897982 Report

Quoted By: >>3897986

>>3897916
Here we go

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 20:31:52 No.3897986 Report

Quoted By: >>3897989

>>3897982

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 20:34:20 No.3897989 Report

Quoted By: >>3897994

>>3897986

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 20:36:25 No.3897994 Report

Quoted By: >>3897995 >>3898067

>>3897989

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 20:37:46 No.3897995 Report

Quoted By:

>>3897994

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 22:16:51 No.3898053 Report

Quoted By: >>3898057

Panny-bros, why won't they just use phase-detect.....

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 22:22:29 No.3898057 Report

Quoted By: >>3898063 >>3900047

>>3898053
Licencing agreements with Sony is the answer.
Olympus obtain sensors with phase detection pixels. Nikon obtain sensors with phase detection pixels. Sigma obtain sensors with phase detection pixels.
Panasonic and Leica obtain sensors without phase detection for some reason, and that reason is related to how Sony negotiate access to their technology and intellectual property.
It's this reason that Canon make their own sensors, but use a very different technology, Dual Pixel AF.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 22:40:04 No.3898063 Report

Quoted By:

>>3898057
You got the last part backwards. The reason the rest of the industry doesn't use DPAF is that Canon has the patent, and because they only make sensors for themselves the rest has to drool and watch while trying to compete sacrificing pixels to the AF god.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 22:43:02 No.3898067 Report

Quoted By: >>3898076

>>3897994
What a brave gardener

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Jun 2021 22:56:09 No.3898076 Report

Quoted By:

>>3898067
I missed the focus somehow. Idk how, I was using the S-AF mode anyway.
And anyway, instances like this makes me still want to obtain the 300mm f/4.
Still, the best thing about the 40-150mm is the AF - it's fuckin' fast. The dual focus motors really work well with CDAF, and it feels good to be able to get instant AF lock 90% of the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jun 2021 12:22:59 No.3898388 Report

Quoted By:

jpg quality on the lumix g7 is quite terrible.. My omd em5 is better. Do the newer panasonics such as the gx9 have higher quality jpgs or should I stick to olympus?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jun 2021 14:49:35 No.3898512 Report

Quoted By: >>3898702

https://youtu.be/Sb6oSpMYEOg
Thoughts on Robin Wong ?
such a nice lad

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Jun 2021 21:52:11 No.3898702 Report

Quoted By:

>>3898512
he ain't wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 12:56:15 No.3899706 Report

Quoted By: >>3899787

bros, whats the smallest or lightest milc m43 body and zoom lens combo, that covers 24mm equiv at the wide end or if none, at least 28mm equiv., thats good for rain use?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 15:37:37 No.3899787 Report

Quoted By: >>3899798 >>3900779

>>3899706
The OM-D E-M1 models are all weather sealed.
The E-M5 Mk III is weather sealed.
The Panasonic G80/85 and G90/95 are weather sealed.
The Panasonic G9 is weather sealed, definitely.

The new Olympus 8-25mm f/4 Pro has an equiv 16-50.
The Panasonic Leica 8-18mm f/2.8-4 is equiv 16-36mm
The Panasonic Leica 10-25mm f/1.7 is equiv 20-50mm
The Olympus 12-40mm f/2.8 Pro is equiv 24-80mm
The Olympus 12-45mm f/4 Pro is equiv 24-90mm
The Panasonic Leica 12-60mm f/2.8-4 is equiv 24-120mm
The Olympus 12-100mm f/4 IS Pro is equiv 24-200mm
The Olympus 12-200mm f/3.5-6.3 is equiv 24-400mm
The Olympus 14-150mm f/4-5.6 is equiv 28-300mm

On Olympus weather sealed bodies, you get phase detection with all lenses.
On Panasonic weather sealed bodies, you get Depth From Defocus which is only available with Panasonic lenses. Olympus lenses default to simple contrast detection.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 15:48:21 No.3899798 Report

Quoted By: >>3900779

>>3899787
thanks, I'll check them out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 20:55:25 No.3899964 Report

Quoted By: >>3900040 >>3900058

David passed away on the 29th May :(
RIP

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 22:39:36 No.3900040 Report

Quoted By:

>>3899964
sad. rip sweet snapper

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 22:46:58 No.3900047 Report

Quoted By: >>3900061

>>3898057
The main reason are lenses. They need to design lens af for the af that the sensor will use. So even if they made pdaf sensor bodies, it would not work on all their lenses that were made for their depth from defocus af. Pany af is pretty good right now, so people aren't missing much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 23:02:58 No.3900058 Report

Quoted By:

>>3899964
Damn ... Sad to hear that ... May he rest in peace, in a heave where Olympus is king.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 23:06:36 No.3900061 Report

Quoted By: >>3900449

>>3900047
>The lenses
????????????
The fuck have you been smoking???
If you use a Panasonic Micro Four Thirds lens on an an Olympus body with phase detection, the PDAF won't magically stop working

And the same goes for L-Mount full frame. If you use any Panasonic S lenses on the Sigma fp L, the phase detection on that also won't stop magically working.
And the Sigma DG DN lenses that they make for L-Mount have the DFD profiles in them (a part of the L-Mount protocols), and the same DG DN lenses for Sony E mount will have the same AF motor and same optics, but the Sony body will have phase detection.

Depth from Defocus is Panasonic's way of putting in a shortcut for their autofocus system. With no phase detection pixels, instead, Panasonic loads a kind of lens profile into the lens chip. The camera can then skip contrast detection hunting based on an understanding of where the subject should be relative to the focus.
On MFT, since Olympus don't use this, the Panasonic bodies will default to normal contrast detection.
As mentioned, on L-Mount, Panasonic, Sigma and Leica all have DFD data in their lens chips, but only Panasonic bodies make use of this data. Leica cameras are CDAF only and Sigma is CDAF on the fp and PDAF on the fp L.

Of course, the inverse is a lens designed around PDAF that's being made to do CDAF. This is the issue with Four Thirds lenses. When adapted to MFT bodies with no PDAF, these lenses will hunt and hunt and hunt. Stick it on an E-M1 and it'll get the focus right every time.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Jun 2021 09:09:51 No.3900337 Report

Quoted By: >>3900389 >>3900404 >>3900908

What are some other good lenses to use with a Viltrox Speedbooster besides Sigma 18-35 and Tokina 11-16?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jun 2021 10:57:47 No.3900389 Report

Quoted By:

>>3900337
nikon 50mm f1.4

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jun 2021 12:06:51 No.3900404 Report

Quoted By: >>3900471 >>3900908

>>3900337
That speedbooster is awful, don't buy it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jun 2021 13:45:03 No.3900449 Report

Quoted By:

>>3900061
>If you use a Panasonic Micro Four Thirds lens on an an Olympus body with phase detection, the PDAF won't magically stop working. And the same goes for L-Mount full frame. If you use any Panasonic S lenses on the Sigma fp L, the phase detection on that also won't stop magically working.

Actually, cameras don't use pdaf in those cases.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jun 2021 14:26:22 No.3900471 Report

Quoted By:

>>3900404
Ok, I'll rent it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Jun 2021 16:44:25 No.3900551 Report

Quoted By: >>3900554 >>3900782 >>3900788 >>3905707

So I want a nice compact street camera to complement my Z6. I don’t want to look like some boomer bringing this FF camera with big ass lenses around to dinners and stuff.

So then it comes down to, what would be the best for that use case? E-M5 Mark iii?

Would an E-M1 be too close in size to the Z6 to defeat the purpose?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jun 2021 16:58:41 No.3900554 Report

Quoted By:

>>3900551
Yeah, get EM5

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 00:17:33 No.3900779 Report

Quoted By:

>>3899787
>>3899798
Em5 mk I and II are also weather sealed as well, although the em5 mk I is basically as old as you can get for MFT. Mk II is still decent aside from no pdaf.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 00:22:52 No.3900782 Report

Quoted By: >>3900783 >>3900815

>>3900551
The Z6 and E-M1 Mk III are about the same size, actually.
There's not really a significant size difference.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 00:26:19 No.3900783 Report

Quoted By: >>3900787 >>3900815 >>3900901

>>3900782
The E-M5 isn't all that much smaller though.
The main appeal to it is the fact that it has weather sealing and phase detection AF.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 00:30:14 No.3900787 Report

Quoted By: >>3900796 >>3900815

>>3900783
The "sweetheart" of MFT users, the Pen-F is certainly compact and smaller than the Z6.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 00:30:45 No.3900788 Report

Quoted By:

>>3900551
>Would an E-M1 be too close in size to the Z6 to defeat the purpose?
With bodies maybe, but when you start putting lenses on it, the difference can become substantial.

em5's aren't a lot smaller than em1's. Main differences are 100g in weight, and a different grip.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 00:36:10 No.3900796 Report

Quoted By: >>3900799 >>3900815

>>3900787
Here's the Z6 against the Df for reference.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 00:39:01 No.3900799 Report

Quoted By: >>3900815

>>3900796
And finally, the Z6 next to a Fujifilm X-T4.

Most cameras, regardless of sensor or system, have started to standardise around a form factor, and it's kind of surprising to see how "small" FF mirrorless cameras are now, especially compared to APS-C and MFT, but especially how much smaller they are than the DSLRs they succeed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 00:54:12 No.3900815 Report

Quoted By: >>3916321

>>3900799
>>3900796
>>3900787
>>3900783
>>3900782
Why the flooding?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 05:59:45 No.3900901 Report

Quoted By: >>3900908

>>3900783
>the E-M5 isn't that much smaller though.

Well I went to the camera store and checked out the E-M1 II and E-M5 III and can tell you that you are absolutely full of shit. I brought my Z6 w/ 50mm 1.8 to compare to both cameras. The E-M5 is dramatically smaller and lighter than the Z6. Even the E-M1 with the 25 f1.2 was a quite a bit lighter than the Z6 with 50 prime.

So now I'm leaning toward getting the E-M5 iii w/ f4 Pro kit lens and a faster prime or two.

angelWings !!R20uMSYGKKc

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angelWings !!R20uMSYGKKc Sun 13 Jun 2021 06:11:03 No.3900906 Report

Quoted By: >>3900968

>>3896603
This camera screams the Death of Olympus
At $899 for body only? Seriously $899 for something that is worse than a $599 E-M10 IV? This is total failure for Olympus.

They should have at least added a fully articulated screen on this camera to appeal to vloggers and also added PDAF. As much as I love Olympus, no one's buying this E-P7 aside from hardcore fans in Japan. Just get an EM-10 IV it's cheaper, and has an EVF. This camera E-P7 doesn't bring anything new to the table for that price lol.

Even the Pen-F is better than this crap due to the fully articulated screen and metal body. Just get a used Pen-F for $800 lol.

angelWings !!R20uMSYGKKc

angelWings !!R20uMSYGKKc Sun 13 Jun 2021 06:16:29 No.3900908 Report

Quoted By: >>3900924

>>3900901
I myself am considering Z5 vs em5 III but would probably just get the em5 ii.

>>3900337
>>3900404
yes it sucks regarding sharpness but it's ok for me since I got it for cheap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 07:15:12 No.3900924 Report

Quoted By: >>3900937

>>3900908
>considering Z5
Really hard sell considering how cheap used Z6s are these days. That's the sweet spot. Also, yeah I think I'm gonna go E-M5 II since it's only gonna be used for street anyway.

angelWings !!R20uMSYGKKc

angelWings !!R20uMSYGKKc Sun 13 Jun 2021 09:21:19 No.3900937 Report

Quoted By:

>>3900924
You mean used? Brand new is still $400 difference. Also the Z5's extra card slot is crucial for me when I shoot events. Anyhow my D600 is still doing fine and I don't want to spend additional for the Z lenses

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 12:32:36 No.3900968 Report

Quoted By: >>3901215

>>3900906
>This camera screams the Death of Olympus
>Most requested body form since forever
>muh vloggers
Do you want to know how i know you eat dick for breakfast?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 20:49:34 No.3901215 Report

Quoted By:

>>3900968
>being this mad

Cry harder. You know its the truth and you wont buy that overpriced shit camera

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 22:39:53 No.3901277 Report

Quoted By: >>3901279 >>3901393

>>3896603
I wouldn't worry about plastic bodies on Olympus. They have really high build quality. Better than a lot of metal bodies, in fact. My old em10iii is still rock solid, and I now exclusively use it as a beater cam. It's often used in bad weather, usually carried in the pocket. Buttons are all still responsive and clicky, dials and shutter button as well. Plastic is all firmly in place, and I warrant that it must be pretty darn well sealed, despite the fact that it's not officially weather sealed. I dropped it in snow, used it in rain, had it splashed with salt water, and used it in extreme cold. Though I would not advise that. That instance may have killed my weather sealed lens later. Only thing wrong with the cam right now is that It developed a slight fault at the top left of the back screen from me sweating on it. Oh, and eye evf sensors stopped working a month ago, so I now need to switch from evf to screen manually, besides that and few extra spots on the sensors, it works as if it was new. I'm actually very surprised how well it still works, considering how much silly shit I threw at it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 22:41:39 No.3901279 Report

Quoted By: >>3901283 >>3901511

>>3901277
Can we see some photos taken in all these exotic conditions, Anon, so we know you're not just larping?
I want to believe.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 22:57:18 No.3901283 Report

Quoted By: >>3901334

>>3901279

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jun 2021 23:48:04 No.3901311 Report

Quoted By:

does anyone have experience with the Panasonic 35-100 2.8 for video, 4k especially?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jun 2021 00:19:24 No.3901334 Report

Quoted By: >>3901345 >>3901511

>>3901283
looks like shit logs covered in powdered sugar, nice macro work

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jun 2021 00:33:08 No.3901341 Report

Quoted By: >>3901393 >>3902524

Which would be the best MFT camera out there right now for stills?

Em1.3? Panasonic G7?

Has anybody reliably used high res mode for photoshoots?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jun 2021 00:39:39 No.3901345 Report

Quoted By: >>3901395

>>3901334
It's actually a shot of snow-covered mountains but you've never been outside so you don't know what snow looks like

angelWings !!R20uMSYGKKc

angelWings !!R20uMSYGKKc Mon 14 Jun 2021 03:07:52 No.3901393 Report

Quoted By: >>3916324

>>3901277
em10iii is based. If only Olympus managed to fit in a fully articulated screen in the em10 series, I will get one.

>>3901341
https://cameradecision.com/compare/Olympus-OM-D-E-M1-Mark-III-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DC-G9
Panasonic G9 for me feature wise for the top lcd and better viewfinder but the camera is as big and heavy as a FF mirrorless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jun 2021 03:12:46 No.3901395 Report

Quoted By: >>3901511 >>3915985

>>3901345
I dunno maybe you're just not good at photography anon, it looks like a plate of poop covered in powdered sugar to me as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jun 2021 09:56:49 No.3901506 Report

Quoted By:

F

Really loved this guys videos. Really got to the essence of what photography is about. Ill miss him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jun 2021 10:15:56 No.3901511 Report

Quoted By:

>>3901334
>>3901395
>>3901279
Mad jelous will eat you alive anon.

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Anonymous Wed 16 Jun 2021 01:52:01 No.3902524 Report

Quoted By:

>>3901341
g9, or e-m1 iii

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Jun 2021 10:54:46 No.3902631 Report

Quoted By: >>3902667

>>3890699
>dont tell me your gear defines your photography
This is just cope. The gear you use affects your photography whether you like it to or not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Jun 2021 11:00:17 No.3902638 Report

Quoted By:

>>3890956
Are you pretending to like Leica cameras now?
Are these the depths you will resort to try and "own" fuji?

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Anonymous Wed 16 Jun 2021 11:07:26 No.3902639 Report

Quoted By:

>>3890956
Don't cry anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Jun 2021 11:56:33 No.3902659 Report

Quoted By:

>>3890956
>what people get when they want a Leica for its looks but can't afford it and don't care about the experience or image quality that Leica offers.
that's like saying sony a7r4/z7/r5 shooters are just poor faggots who dream of having a phase one, but have to cope in the meantime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Jun 2021 11:57:41 No.3902661 Report

Quoted By:

>>3891773
perfectly acceptable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Jun 2021 12:05:49 No.3902667 Report

Quoted By:

>>3902631
Affect =/= definie.

Or are the only aspect worth mentioning in your photos what gear you used to shoot it? If so, I feel sorry for you.

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Anonymous Thu 17 Jun 2021 00:09:34 No.3903092 Report

Quoted By: >>3903093 >>3903101 >>3903300 >>3916325

this isn't too great of a lens isn't it? What's a better alternative with less swirly bokeh and is a little sharper

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jun 2021 00:10:37 No.3903093 Report

Quoted By: >>3903101

>>3903092
this is the lumix 25mm 1.7 btw

Ken Rockwell

Ken Rockwell Thu 17 Jun 2021 00:35:12 No.3903101 Report

Quoted By: >>3903108 >>3903300

>>3903093
>>3903092
Well there's the Zuiko 25mm F1.8 which is about twice as expensive, but I don't know how it compares.
No doubt the best 25mm for MFT is the SUMMILUX 25 1.4
The price tag is quite hefty though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 17 Jun 2021 00:45:57 No.3903108 Report

Quoted By: >>3903300

>>3903101
What about the Zuiko 25 1.2 Pro ? i've seen people praising the Zuiko 1.2 Pro lineup despite being fuckhuge

angelWings !!R20uMSYGKKc

angelWings !!R20uMSYGKKc Thu 17 Jun 2021 10:13:47 No.3903300 Report

Quoted By:

>>3903092
I actually kind of like it. I got mine for $120 and I can't find a better bang for buck other than the 14mm f/2.5 pancake which I got for the same price.

My only con for it is that the 25mm 1.8 olympus is smaller.

>>3903101
>No doubt the best 25mm for MFT is the SUMMILUX 25 1.4

I had a chance before to buy one for $230 used which I kind of regret. I like how it is the same size as the 1.7 but for the $700 listed price? No way.

>>3903108
Reviews say it is better but personally I don't want big lenses with my MFT gear. I basically use them as daily travel camera. If you're a pro I understand that the 25mm 1.2 is a necessity.

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jun 2021 01:35:28 No.3905286 Report

Quoted By: >>3905290 >>3905293

damn

cANON

cANON Tue 22 Jun 2021 01:38:52 No.3905290 Report

Quoted By:

>>3905286
F

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jun 2021 01:41:38 No.3905293 Report

Quoted By:

>>3905286
Rest in peace dear lad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jun 2021 15:50:26 No.3905707 Report

Quoted By: >>3905732

>>3900551
Just wait for z-mount f/2 primes. They're much more compact than the current offerings. I really want to snag the 40mm.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jun 2021 17:00:59 No.3905732 Report

Quoted By: >>3905738 >>3905821

>>3905707
Too late anon. It’s cool having a 24-90mm zoom in a tiny compact package that’s lighter than the Z6 body by itself. I’m happy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jun 2021 17:12:07 No.3905738 Report

Quoted By: >>3905809

>>3905732
Great strap.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jun 2021 19:41:51 No.3905808 Report

Quoted By:

I didn't have a chance to shoot anything worth a crap, but I like the way this 12-45 f4 renders. Aspect ratio is kinda cool, too. Overall, I'd say the M43 stuff competes pretty well with my Fuji stuff. I still miss that Fuji 16-80 f4 though, I really felt it was special for a zoom.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 22 Jun 2021 19:43:54 No.3905809 Report

Quoted By: >>3906449

>>3905738
>Great strap.
Yeah, not bad for some chinese bullshit I bought on Amazon hm?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Jun 2021 20:26:59 No.3905821 Report

Quoted By:

>>3905732
Neat. Have fun with it. I don't own any m43 gear, but I'm always wondering about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 00:13:16 No.3906447 Report

Quoted By: >>3906464

Does the color difference in olympus jpg vs panasonic also carry over to video? In the older non 4k models

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 00:14:27 No.3906449 Report

Quoted By: >>3906562

>>3905809
oh man you didn't spend 70 dollars on a fuckign camera strap

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 00:36:42 No.3906464 Report

Quoted By:

>>3906447
Naturally. They're both pretty good, though. Olympus is warmer and Panasonic is colder.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 05:46:12 No.3906562 Report

Quoted By:

>>3906449
>70 dollars
Where can I get a woven leather strap for cheaper?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 06:54:45 No.3906568 Report

Quoted By: >>3906618 >>3906899 >>3906935 >>3917519

I don't get why MFT isn't more popular. Having both a full frame EOS RP and a Panasonic G9 I'll choose my G9 any day. I'm literally carrying 4x less weight in lenses even if the bodies are similar.

Also suddenly sensor size doesn't matter to FFags when you bring up medium format. Curious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 10:39:49 No.3906618 Report

Quoted By: >>3906624

>>3906568
It's a dick measuring contest.
Fool Framers want to show off how "big" their sensor is and how it always is better than APS/MFT.
Yet Fool Framers keep talking about how medium format is a waste of money, or how no one ever needs the resolution, or how big, bulky and heavy the cameras and lenses are.

I actually wouldn't mind to get an FF camera someday, but using it in low light situations and for very high res images.
MFT is perfect for 90% of shooting. When you need some crazy resolution, it falls short and very high ISO shooting is disappointing.
But for wildlife, sports and macro in the field, MFT is lighter, more convenient and offers more reach per $.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 11:35:54 No.3906624 Report

Quoted By: >>3906903

>>3906618
>medium format is a waste of money
It is in its crop mode, only Phase One and some 'Blads do respectable medium format ratios and their lens line is quite limited.
MFT is the telephoto zone, no question about it IMO.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 22:03:29 No.3906899 Report

Quoted By: >>3917521

>>3906568
maybe people are noticing the bullshit on youtubers

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 22:10:39 No.3906903 Report

Quoted By: >>3906951

>>3906624
>It is in its crop mode
You mean Full Frame mode?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 23:54:42 No.3906935 Report

Quoted By: >>3906941

>>3906568
I was looking into MFT before I bought my Z6. It’s a great camera, but sometimes I think I should have gotten the g9 instead. Low light is rarely an issue, since I prefer to use flash whenever possible, but I wanted to know what all this FF memery was about.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 25 Jun 2021 00:27:57 No.3906941 Report

Quoted By: >>3906943 >>3906952 >>3906954

>>3906935
Coming from someone who has owned aps-c (fuji), and now owns MFT (olympus) and FF (nikon): if you’re in any sort of decent light, MFT is perfectly great. Ignore the youtube faggotry and enjoy a light and fast system.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jun 2021 00:33:05 No.3906943 Report

Quoted By:

>>3906941
fuck that 50mm is epic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jun 2021 00:57:38 No.3906951 Report

Quoted By: >>3906954

>>3906903
No i mean the Fuji MF sensor is a crop version itself, it does not reach any standard from old MF film stock nor their lenses, it's a format on its own, it needs its own lenses that will probably not have compatible ratio to any future DMF cameras.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jun 2021 00:59:02 No.3906952 Report

Quoted By: >>3917524

>>3906941
That lighting seems good enough yet the image is still blurry

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jun 2021 01:11:04 No.3906954 Report

Quoted By: >>3906981

>>3906951
I know, i am just shit posting about fool frame, call it whatever it is, it still delivers what it aims to do well (and the 100mp one pretty much as well as phase one stuff).

It has averaged sized lenses for medium format digital, don't expect to use mirrorless lenses on another mirroless mount, and they probably cover the whole sensor of the bigger blads.

>>3906941
I fucking wish i liked MFT, the good lenses are so absurdly cheap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jun 2021 02:19:14 No.3906981 Report

Quoted By: >>3906995

>>3906954
>I fucking wish i liked MFT, the good lenses are so absurdly cheap.
the only reason you don't is because you've memed yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jun 2021 03:12:08 No.3906995 Report

Quoted By: >>3907019

>>3906981
MFT blows if you crop, it also blows having most of your lenses be telephoto range and not having fast wides that actually separate the background.

>inb4 crutch

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 25 Jun 2021 03:24:05 No.3907000 Report

Quoted By: >>3917527

this is my hometown

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 25 Jun 2021 04:39:18 No.3907019 Report

Quoted By: >>3907038

>>3906995
>crop
>wide lens bokeh
Olympus died for this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Jun 2021 06:22:33 No.3907038 Report

Quoted By:

>>3907019
Olympus is a phoenix. At least the brand name will remain. I'm just hoping to see >20MP MFT sensors, although I never felt particularly restricted in terms of cropping even with 16MP.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 25 Jun 2021 16:03:54 No.3907194 Report

Quoted By:

Love MFT. Simple as. Here's my small sensor devices collection.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jul 2021 04:53:38 No.3910023 Report

Quoted By: >>3910089

Anyone can answer me this?
Is 4:3 aspect ratio video recording a thing on MFT cameras? I mean using the full sensor? Or would one have to crop in from standard 16:9 video? I hate widescreen with a passion, so I‘d be disappointed to see the latter being the case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jul 2021 07:45:12 No.3910079 Report

Quoted By:

>>3890626
bro ur not allowed to get bokay on MFT you fkn sensorlet. jkz sweet picture. Bokeh could be creamier, but that's as much a matter of lens design, distance to background as it is about format size.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jul 2021 08:31:59 No.3910089 Report

Quoted By: >>3910295

>>3910023
It is possible on some of them, namely GH5 and G9

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jul 2021 13:48:36 No.3910295 Report

Quoted By: >>3910538 >>3910542 >>3910553

>>3910089
Do you have a source on that? I've looked over spec sheets for almost every current MFT camera and so far none of them list any 4:3 resolutions for video. If this were possible, the cameras that support 4k should be able to record 4096x3072 or at least 3200x2400

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 01 Jul 2021 16:50:58 No.3910408 Report

Quoted By: >>3910540

This is one of the funniest body/lens combos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jul 2021 21:29:00 No.3910538 Report

Quoted By:

>>3910295
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9739TNPxdtc

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jul 2021 21:30:26 No.3910540 Report

Quoted By:

>>3910408
I can get you photos from it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jul 2021 21:32:08 No.3910542 Report

Quoted By:

>>3910295
Oh also you use anamorphic mode with a regular lens but don't de-squeeze and you get 4:3 video, full sensor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jul 2021 22:16:07 No.3910553 Report

Quoted By:

>>3910295
gh5, gh5s, gh5ii, g9, bgh1. As far as I know, that's the one's that get 4:3 video on the Panasonic's side.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jul 2021 08:54:03 No.3910774 Report

Quoted By: >>3910976 >>3915657 >>3918753

Suppose someone were to come on /p/ for a year...
Posting photos taken with an Olympus E-M1 Mk II...
But with the EXIF data manipulated to say that they were taken with a full frame Nikon Z6...
Suppose users complimented that person on some of his better shots...
Suppose no one ever noticed the image quality wasn't consistent with the camera that supposedly produced these photos...
Yeah. Wouldn't that be embarrassing, /p/? Hypothetically speaking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Jul 2021 17:19:15 No.3910976 Report

Quoted By: >>3915657

>>3910774

Only coping FF gearfags would care

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 14:03:14 No.3913668 Report

Quoted By: >>3915643

What's a good weather sealed 25mm prime for MFT? I know the Olympus Pro stuff exists, but these are so huge you might as well go fool frame when you buy these.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 12 Jul 2021 03:06:16 No.3915643 Report

Quoted By: >>3916368

>>3913668
>weather sealed 25mm
The version 2 of the Panny/Leica 25mm 1.4 is supposed to be weather sealed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jul 2021 03:39:50 No.3915657 Report

Quoted By: >>3917532 >>3917567 >>3918753

>>3910774
>>3910976
i always post mft and fuji photos here with full frame exifs, just to fuck with the gear faggots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jul 2021 21:19:07 No.3915975 Report

Quoted By:

>>3894698
lack of viewfinder = uninteresting

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jul 2021 21:22:13 No.3915978 Report

Quoted By: >>3915980

>>3897039
this
we already have the E-PL line for japanese women
where is the fucking Pen-F successor?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jul 2021 21:39:07 No.3915980 Report

Quoted By:

>>3915978
The Pen-F sold like crap.
I wouldn't be surprised if OMDS is weary of making it again in case it once again sells like crap.
The only way I could see it doing better is if they pivot it a lot more towards vloggers.
A lot of people hate on Olympus for their choice of fully articulated screens, but really this was an innovation from the Four Thirds DSLRs, which Olympus keep as a signature feature in most of its camera bodies.

People genuinely think that fully articulating screens are a vlogging thing, or a video-centric feature...
We already know that the Nikon Zfc is surprisingly capable of video, and that it probably has very good vlogging possibilities... but... the rest of the Nikon Z line has tilting screens only.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jul 2021 21:49:51 No.3915985 Report

Quoted By:

>>3901395
Either this is low effort bait or you've never been outside in nature in your life.
For your own sake I hope it's the former.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jul 2021 18:20:05 No.3916274 Report

Quoted By: >>3916834 >>3917533

Noob here, having problem with reach with the 100-300 on the g9

it's like you have to me 10m for good pictures? is this the bane of m43

or I'm just stupid and doing the wrong stuff?

just feels like 600mm is to little for birding 80% of the time....

would the 100-400 solve this? or do I need to go FF?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jul 2021 21:01:05 No.3916321 Report

Quoted By:

>>3900815
I liked the comparisons

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jul 2021 21:07:33 No.3916324 Report

Quoted By:

>>3901393
>em10iii is based
The lack of a proper electronic shutter setting is a pretty big flaw.
I hear they brought it back in the Mark IV though.
It's a fine cam otherwise.

t. owner

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jul 2021 21:12:38 No.3916325 Report

Quoted By:

>>3903092
I have the 20mm 1.7 pancake and like it very much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Jul 2021 23:21:48 No.3916368 Report

Quoted By: >>3916393

>>3915643
that's good, because I always found the olympus pro lenses are insanely big in terms of MFT. their quality overall is beyond any criticism, but I'm currently not in the market for a lens bigger than even my alpha cock.

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 00:18:19 No.3916393 Report

Quoted By: >>3916404 >>3916405 >>3916415

>>3916368
>Olympus pro lenses are insanely big
I get that, but I think what's enticing about M43 isn't just the compactness of it, but the versatility of it. You can have an EM5 with a tiny power zoom on it that's nearly pocketable. Or, you can slap on a pro lens and a grip and have great sharpness and low light capabilities. As a system it's really attractive.

If I wasn't so in love with my Nikon Z 50mm 1.8 I'd consider selling all my Z stuff for a couple pro primes and a 12-100 f4 and going all in on MFT.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 00:30:47 No.3916404 Report

Quoted By:

>>3916393
>EM5
the patrician choice if you ask me. beautiful design, very good sensor, fantasitc and always up to date firmare, flawless production quality (even with the "new" plastic MK III).
that's what's awesome about olympus. they come up with a way to improve image quality, af speed, you name it, on existing hardware, they just put it out for free. fucking based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 00:35:20 No.3916405 Report

Quoted By: >>3916407

>>3916393
Nikon Z is a neat system, but I think that the system's main limitations come from a mix of the expensive constant aperture zooms and some other strange design decisions.
Plus, if you want to reverse the focus by wire, so that it works the "right" way (as in not the direction Nikon, Fujifilm and Pentax traditionally focus in), you need to get the Nikon Z 6II or 7II, because Nikon cannot be bothered to make a firmware update for the original Z 6, 7 and I guess the 5 and 50.

But I will say that MFT just offers a lot of unique options and experiences and I think that makes up for the limitations of the system. Really, unless you're printing big, significantly cropping or have a niche requirement... MFT more than suits your needs for 90% of photography in the real world.
If you really demand bokehwhoring, just obtain a medium format camera.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 00:50:49 No.3916407 Report

Quoted By:

>>3916405
Pics look flat, no real fast aperture wides (give me a 35mm f1.8 lens that isn't some chink manual crap), crappy out the box color.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 01:57:32 No.3916415 Report

Quoted By:

>>3916393
>and going all in on MFT.
shit is so cheap on ebay, so many people falling for the olympus doom mft. just means more steeply discounted bodies and lenses for me.

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Anonymous Wed 14 Jul 2021 22:12:19 No.3916834 Report

Quoted By:

>>3916274
Most of the time you are cropping, FF gives you the opportunity to crop more, but ff lenses are also like 3x the price outside of mirror lenses and the f11 primes.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 16 Jul 2021 13:40:22 No.3917519 Report

Quoted By:

>>3906568
>sensor size doesn't matter to FFags when you bring up medium format
indeed

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Anonymous Fri 16 Jul 2021 13:45:49 No.3917521 Report

Quoted By: >>3917522 >>3917566

>>3906899
also this

https://taipeigeek.blogspot.com/2018/03/why-you-shouldnt-trust-youtube-channels-like-tony-northrup.html

pic related is the type of image a big photography youtuber like Toneh considers publish-worthy
absolutely ridiculous

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Jul 2021 13:46:53 No.3917522 Report

Quoted By:

>>3917521
guy in the bottom right is me when Tony tells me I "need" fool frame

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Jul 2021 13:50:13 No.3917524 Report

Quoted By: >>3917573

>>3906952
1/8s shutter does that, olympus ibis is good but this is too slow

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Jul 2021 13:52:52 No.3917527 Report

Quoted By:

>>3907000 (checked)
good pic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Jul 2021 13:56:18 No.3917532 Report

Quoted By:

>>3915657
absolutely based
gear spergs on suicide watch

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Jul 2021 13:59:57 No.3917533 Report

Quoted By:

>>3916274
why would you need a fully articulating screen?
if you wanna make vapid videos of yourself for instashit just use your phone

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Jul 2021 16:38:06 No.3917566 Report

Quoted By: >>3917589

>>3917521
I had to double check to see if this photo was actually by this guy.
Holy shit, this looks like a jpg from a first gen iPhone or something. Miss me with that shit.
But even the photography YouTubers that have a good understanding of color and contrast (yes these exist) will usually not use MFT. MFT YouTubers are guys like David Thorpe or >>3891813
Basically boomers who don't use lens flares or lofi music or dslr mirror flap noises in their videos. Doesn't matter if their content is actually good or not, as long as they don't grin like that brain dead Verbeeck Zombie no person under the age of 30 is going to listen to anything they have to say.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Jul 2021 16:39:14 No.3917567 Report

Quoted By: >>3918722 >>3918753

>>3915657
same. fuckers don't even notice when I try to make the worms extra apparent

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Jul 2021 17:05:23 No.3917573 Report

Quoted By:

>>3917524
1/8s is nothing. With IBIS only at 50mm equivalent a E-M1 MkII will give you sharp images even at 1 second. Unless you have parkinson's or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Jul 2021 18:50:45 No.3917589 Report

Quoted By: >>3917591 >>3918300

>>3917566
>MFT YouTubers
Becoming an endangered species, I feel.
David Thorpe passed away, sadly.
Peter Forsgård has interesting photography topics, but his videos seem a bit meh in terms of overall audio and video quality.
Sulantoblog has ceased being a Lumix Ambassador and has even bought into Sony.
Red34 feels like he pads his videos like hell.
Micro 4/3 Guy seems a bit too boomery...
Robin Wong... He's got the best intentions, but I feel like he's hard to watch without feeling kinda sorry for him...

I started thinking about other bigger YouTubers...
Kai W is a pretty funny guy, and he's better when paired with Lok Cheung, but the only MFT stuff he's done is the GH5, GH5S, BHG1, G100 and GH5II... which I think is fair enough, and his main camera is a GH5. But there's nothing on Olympus at all...
DPReview is strange, and I understand the fact that they have to review all sorts of different gear, because they're literally being paid by Amazon to do so, but I did enjoy their episode on APS film, and they have a lot of positive things to say on Olympus and Panasonic stuff - I understand Jordan Drake moved over from the GH5 to the S1H for the dynamic range though...
Gordon Laing.... I haven't seen too much of his stuff, but it seems like he's got some good MFT reviews.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Jul 2021 19:11:13 No.3917591 Report

Quoted By:

>>3917589
>Gordon Laing
Is it just me or are his hands always shaking?
also
>Robin Wong
It's really not his fault, but hearing certain accents in the English language makes me cringe so hard I can't watch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jul 2021 18:26:48 No.3918300 Report

Quoted By: >>3918692

>>3917589
Because despite probably satisfying the needs of most consumers, mft doesn't satisfy the 'want' of consumers, and gearfags are all about satisfying their want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 19:37:09 No.3918692 Report

Quoted By: >>3918829

>>3918300
75% of professionals out there would do fine with MFT as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 20:59:38 No.3918722 Report

Quoted By:

>>3917567
rent free

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jul 2021 23:07:56 No.3918753 Report

Quoted By:

>>3917567
>>3915657
>>3910774
I'm actually convinced by now that at least half of the photos posted on this board have manipulated EXIFs. Just don't look at the EXIF. See if it's a good photo or not, comment if you feel it's necessary, then get on with your life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 01:41:35 No.3918829 Report

Quoted By: >>3918862

>>3918692
Yeah but I can understand that FF offers a level of flexibility and forgiveness that is very convenient when you have to work fast and have deadlines to meet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 03:12:17 No.3918862 Report

Quoted By: >>3919128

>>3918829
All things considered I actually find it a small wonder that APSC is still a thing. It's basically many of the MFT disadvantages combined with many of the FF disadvantages. Somewhat small sensor, but large enough to make the lenses thicc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jul 2021 18:32:03 No.3919128 Report

Quoted By:

>>3918862
From my experience it feels more like ff-lite than mft+. Before the onset of $1k entry level ff that happened fairly recently, they filled the gap between mft and ff price wise while giving some benefits people like (bokeh) without having to spend $2k for a body.

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