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Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 02:05:33 No.3940743 View View Reply Original Report

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Can someone explain how using Photoshop isn't considered cheating the same way autotune is considered in music?

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fucking cuck !!L1lx81epp6B Sat 18 Sep 2021 02:14:08 No.3940746 Report

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Photoshop is really just the digital form of darkroom print manipulation that has existed since the inception of photography. Even the tools like "dodge" and "burn" are darkroom terms.

So the real question you want to ask is "why is print manipulation acceptable?", and the answer to that is "it depends." There are strict rules in photojournalism about making excessive edits to your photograph, and there are examples of photographs being pulled from circulation and a retraction issued.

Depending on the country, there are also strict laws about what you can do in images advertising a product.

However, with photography as fine art, there is no such thing as "cheating". Any avenue of creation is open to the artist, there are no rules or standards. So you can use as much photoshop as you want, because that would likely be the bare minimum of your input into the final image.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 02:18:25 No.3940747 Report

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>>3940743
>Can someone please explain how frogposting is cheating?
fyq

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Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 02:22:17 No.3940749 Report

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There are many degrees to photo editing the same way there are many degrees to audio editing. Every song you listen to is edited to some degree (unless you exclusively listen to music straight off the tape recorder they recorded it on, which I seriously doubt). Not every producer uses pitch correction like autotune, but every track on an album is mastered. The producer might raise/lower the volume of different tracks at different times, or remove guitar squeaks and feedback, or cut and paste one of the chorus takes because it sounds better. Music production is a lot more than autotune - almost every song is edited to a pretty serious degree whether you know it or not.

The same is true about photography. Maybe completely swapping the background of an image from daylight to a starry sky is equivalent to vocal pitch correction, but things like focus stacking, adjusting highlights and shadows, and removing dust specs are no less "fair" than adjusting the volume for different instruments. They're completely different degrees of editing.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 06:10:21 No.3940822 Report

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>>3940743
They're both tools to achieve a goal. There is nothing to "cheat".

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Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 06:48:08 No.3940838 Report

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If photoshop is cheating then what's the win condition? Every photo shot on Digital NEEDS to be edited before going to print. Even if the image is exactly as you want it out of camera, you'll still need to sharpen and adjust for the medium.

Everyone equates a photoshopped image to "this used to be a bad photo and these colors don't exist. Also you probably added that mountain there." The reality is that it's a tool that should be utilized alongside the rest of the process.

End of the day only one thing matters. Are you selling your work? If so, who gives a fuck how you got there?

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Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 08:28:36 No.3940858 Report

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>>3940743
photosensors don't record light the same way the human eye does

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Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 09:28:57 No.3940863 Report

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>>3940743
Can you explain how using all the traditional music editing tools, like compressors, eq, reverb, overdubbing, distortion etc aren't a more apt comparison than just autotune?

You know how shit recorded music sounds without those tools? Almost as shit as your unedited photos (and that's very, very shit)

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Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 11:20:04 No.3940888 Report

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>>3940749
you have described mixing, not mastering. common mistake.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Sep 2021 15:00:51 No.3940931 Report

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>frog poster has the dumbest question of the week
like pottery

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Anonymous Mon 20 Sep 2021 12:37:33 No.3941565 Report

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>>3940743
Define Photoshop.
Is opening an image and resizing it Photoshop?
Is correcting geo distortions Photoshop?
Colour grading?
Focus stacking?

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Anonymous Thu 23 Sep 2021 05:27:44 No.3942755 Report

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>>3940743
autotune is only considered "cheating" by dadrock boomer faggots who dont really give a shit about music as an art form. its a tool to achieve a desired sound, no different from guitar pedals. its subjective quality all depends on the artists behind the tools.

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Sugar !egyYvoBZV2 Thu 23 Sep 2021 05:40:56 No.3942756 Report

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>you used nitrous oxide, that's cheating

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Anonymous Thu 23 Sep 2021 06:04:11 No.3942762 Report

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>>3940743
OP google what audio post production is first.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Sep 2021 14:38:16 No.3942899 Report

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cheating isn't a meaningful notion here. although singing competitions and photojournalism do exist and require things to be close to reality, neither audio or visual art is bound by the standards of properly technical competitions/reportage

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