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William Eggleston - Thoughts on this guy?

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2022 06:49:55 No.4073909 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>4073932 >>4074006 >>4074201 >>4074558 >>4074591

Is he partially responsible of pioneering modern instagram-style photography? I'm looking at his stuff and it feels kind of like that. It's this soulless yet stylish brand of Americana where objects outnumber people or landscapes. I like some of them, of course.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2022 06:51:53 No.4073912 Report

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Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2022 06:52:56 No.4073914 Report

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Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2022 06:54:00 No.4073916 Report

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Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2022 06:55:04 No.4073918 Report

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Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2022 06:56:08 No.4073920 Report

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Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2022 06:58:34 No.4073922 Report

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His instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/egglestonartfoundation/

Photos are from the 1960s and 1970s btw

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2022 07:35:15 No.4073932 Report

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>>4073909
>William Eggleston - Thoughts on this guy?
Almost as boring as Matt Helders

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2022 13:27:19 No.4073981 Report

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yeah, I like his shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2022 14:01:29 No.4073988 Report

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The Ken Rockwell of the 1970s

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2022 14:04:07 No.4073990 Report

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>>4073920
I'll try to recreate this one today. i have a similar old stereo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2022 14:05:07 No.4073991 Report

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>>4073921
cool shadow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2022 15:43:30 No.4074006 Report

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>>4073909
Like Edward Hopper's paintings, WE's images are highly critical of inhumanness of America.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2022 18:27:12 No.4074041 Report

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>>4074006
>of America
lmao how Myopic American to think inequality was created by America.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2022 19:23:25 No.4074052 Report

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>>4073920
we should make recreation a recreation

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2022 19:48:19 No.4074059 Report

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>>4074041
>lmao how Myopic American to think inequality was created by America.
Their art was never about equality or inequality. It's about how all genuine human hopes, aspirations, and dreams are ruthlessly crushed in modernity. It's summed up in the last verse of William S. Burroughs' poem A Thanksgiving Prayer:
"Thanks for the last and greatest betrayal of the last and greatest of human dreams. "
https://youtu.be/sLSveRGmpIE

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2022 20:01:37 No.4074066 Report

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>>4074059
photography is the art of theft and smuggling, of notions that are prohibited, past the sensible self into the mouth the substances of hope which sustain sentiment, starving romance. Everything modern is a loud ugly hooker.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2022 21:05:46 No.4074092 Report

Quoted By: >>4074095

the colors of egglestons pics are incredibly wholesome

i wish i knew how to get tones like that with digital cameras

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2022 21:09:53 No.4074095 Report

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>>4074092
>i wish i knew how to get tones like that with digital cameras

That was Kodachrome. There's no way you can fake that in Photoshop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2022 21:25:08 No.4074100 Report

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>>4074095
it isn't 2006 gramps

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2022 22:23:14 No.4074119 Report

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>>4074052
bubbles!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Aug 2022 23:52:58 No.4074144 Report

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>>4074059
*farts*
Fuck off back to Europe

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 00:25:24 No.4074160 Report

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>>4074100
Show us

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 02:55:12 No.4074188 Report

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Instagram is 99% people showing off and that’s what it will be remember for, selfies and fake lifestyle.
That guy was more everyday life shot with nice compositions and an eye for scenes with colours that fit together well.
I would say he had very little if any impact on what Instagram was/is

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Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 04:27:10 No.4074201 Report

Quoted By: >>4074209 >>4074268 >>4076005

>>4073909
Ernst Haas blows Eggleston out of the water IMO. I mean, Eggleston was fine but, IMO he had little eye for a story in his photos. Which, sure, that may have been intentional but it's not my thing. For example, while this >>4073921 is obviously a fantastic and he's obviously a pioneer of color photography, Eggleston always just seemed like more of a Mad Men advertiser with a camera whereas Haas seemed more like a writer. I understand and can appreciate the former but I prefer the latter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 04:52:00 No.4074209 Report

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>>4074201

Never heard of this guy, pretty good though, interesting style.

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Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 05:13:27 No.4074221 Report

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>>4074209
One of the best of last century, IMO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 05:14:31 No.4074222 Report

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>>4074119
yay!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 05:18:59 No.4074223 Report

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>>4074221
what was his equipment? there was a motor drive pellicle F1 for that olympics.

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Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 05:47:11 No.4074225 Report

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>>4074223
i don't know the specifics on that shot but i kow he primarily shot leica with kodachrome film.

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Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 05:50:27 No.4074226 Report

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>>4074209
Ernst Haas was literally the godfather of color photography. He was really the first photographer to have it recognized as a valid art form. Saying he's "pretty good" is a massive understatement. He's one of the most iconic photographers of the 20th century.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 05:59:41 No.4074228 Report

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>>4074226

He’s not because I have never heard of him in 10 years of doing photography and I have never seen one of his photographs before.
He is good but very arty so I can see why he is not known in the mainstream.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 06:18:56 No.4074232 Report

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>>4074228
>He’s not because I have never heard of him in 10 years of doing photography and I have never seen one of his photographs before.
the utter state of /p/

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 06:38:36 No.4074237 Report

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>>4074232

Please link me to a single post on /p not in this thread mentioning him

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 07:00:10 No.4074243 Report

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>>4074228
Did you ever consider that you might be a retard and that you aren't at all the standard bearer for what is considered important in photography?

There's a saying that comes to mind: you don't even know what you don't know.

Ernst Haas was the fourth director of Magnum photos after the first three guys died. He had the first exhibition of color photographs in the world in a serious museum when Edward Steichen exhibited his work at MoMA. The Creation is one of the best-selling photobooks of all time.

Whether you have heard of him or not has no impact on his legacy. It only casts shadow on the quality of your research.

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Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 07:27:52 No.4074248 Report

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>>4074237
>imagine actually believing you're intelligent and know anything about photography because you come to /p/ and know things /p/ talks about
imagine it

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Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 07:45:08 No.4074250 Report

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>>4074248

Name a website with more intellectual conversations on photography. This place is as high iq as it gets for photography talk online.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 08:07:14 No.4074254 Report

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>>4074250
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 09:13:38 No.4074263 Report

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>>4074254
The mean level is very low, to be honest.

cruz

cruz Mon 29 Aug 2022 09:30:57 No.4074266 Report

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>>4074225
mostly Kodachrome 12, later 25
he bought the whole stock when they announced it would be discontinued lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 09:51:47 No.4074268 Report

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>>4074201
>Ernst Haas blows Eggleston out of the water
Knower post, Haas was more famous too but nigger cattle nowadays do not read past what hipsters spout.
lol case in point >>4074228

cruz

cruz Mon 29 Aug 2022 11:16:09 No.4074282 Report

Quoted By: >>4074286 >>4074342

>>4074268
yes
haas was famous at his time, even getting to publish the time-life series
first time i posted something about him 8 years or so ago nobody knew who he was on p, fortunately that has changed
many do not know miguel rio branco, which i regard as great as haas or salgado, but i guess that won't change anytime soon since there's little of his work online, even though he as magnum photographer
there are plenty made magnum photographers that go unnoticed on p, rarely discussed if even cited, such as abbas

eggleston, alex webb, stephen shore, alec soth, daido moriyama etc these are the typical run of the mill on p; great artists but a small fraction of what is there to know (besides memes like ken rockwell or that asian guy obsessed with watch clocks that reviews high end camera)

i wonder who gets to see the pics of made guys that have no relevant social media presence like thomas dworzak

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Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 11:33:07 No.4074286 Report

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>>4074282
Magnum is jewish museum schemes, it is not crazy to think every members is not well known as the others because some are legit frauds or overhyped and time has shown either zoomer snappers or boomer hobbyists that they are a waste of time, particularly in big countries some local photographers are more important and show better work than those i mention.

>i wonder who gets to see the pics of made guys that have no relevant social media
Same thing really: Museum money launderers and/or local hobbyists who directly know the artist.
Nowadays to get legit money from artistic photography you have to do it for free and use it as portfolio for your commercial curriculum or sell prints and products like calendars in your photog-less area which are still plenty in many areas. And that last one is really more about knowing printworks rather than being good at photography.

I recall Alex Webb being a poorfag all things considered, he has a good amount of Leica gear but has a dusty apartment in a bad area and his travels are paid by conventions and promoters who want to see him or ask him to talk due to his early work. He's living out of moonlighting model work and talking about his photos from 25 years ago, that's not really living but surviving. Daido practically lives spartanly so even a normal job would sustain him.

>Thomas Dworzak
Quite talented but a richfag's son, suspicious for having travelled Israel extensively too while young. That's enough room for thinking that he reached his spot by factors outside his talent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 12:15:21 No.4074291 Report

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>>4074263
That's because every other website is about peddling gear. Trying to discuss well known photographers who have been anointed as Artists™ is pointless. It always just degenerates into "my favourite photographer is/was better than your favourite photographer.

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Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 14:34:03 No.4074328 Report

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>>4074160
You can get it SOOC if you have fuji

cruz

cruz Mon 29 Aug 2022 14:50:25 No.4074334 Report

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>>4074328
not really tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 14:51:32 No.4074335 Report

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>>4074328
fake shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 14:54:46 No.4074336 Report

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>>4074095
>he thinks kodachrome colors were like that straight after developing
kek

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Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 15:10:11 No.4074342 Report

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>>4074282
>first time i posted something about him 8 years or so ago nobody knew who he was on p
lel that’s unlikely, I was here 8 years ago and I’ve known about Haas for like twenty, especially because I live about two miles from this intersection >>4074225
>>4074226
and drive through it 3-5 times a week. It was even doing that strong-sunlight-from-the-west-dark-storms-to-the-East thing the other day when I was picking up dinner about a half mile up the road.

You guys can’t take what happens in a single thread as proof positive of what is really going on in this board.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 15:11:35 No.4074344 Report

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>>4074336
>he thinks kodachrome colors were like that straight after developing
>>4061891

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Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 15:19:28 No.4074347 Report

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Saul Leiter should have been more famous than Eggleston and maybe more famous than Haas but I would say he and Haas were pretty much on equal footing. I think W. Eugene Smith may have been one of the most famous of the 20th century if he had only done more work in color rather than B&W.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 15:32:35 No.4074355 Report

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>>4074344
That picture is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. You think a print of a picture of a president has no darkroom work? Oh to be so naive.

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Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 15:38:30 No.4074357 Report

Quoted By: >>4074359

>>4074286
I think one of the things you’re struggling to understand, and it’s not entirely your fault as life in the modern era, particularly with the internet and so much knowledge and history at our fingertips provides, is that a lot of this work was truly pioneering in the art form. Especially around color. People forget that color photography was barely even really a thing until the 1950’s. I, too, get jealous that these guys got to live through a certain transition and play with light and color and be the first, if only by consequence for living at a particular time. Like this shot was taken in 1960 and is almost as if what a painter would have been painting a century earlier. There’s just a lot to history that is far more interesting if you allow yourself to try to better understand it, and yes, while some is nepotism and rich parents for some, etc., there are still reasons certain people are more famous for an art form than others.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 15:56:46 No.4074359 Report

Quoted By: >>4074364

>>4074357
You could take this picture today and it would still be good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 16:03:51 No.4074363 Report

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Eggleston was a pioneer, and you have to be kind of good to do something for the first time since there's nothing or little to refer to while you're making steps. It's just a shame that he's become such a meme; memed by his supporters because of le elebated banal and heckin mundan, and by his detractors because they don't realize that this was actually quite original at one point
Yes, I'm talking out of my ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 16:05:11 No.4074364 Report

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>>4074359
You're not wrong, but are you taking the picture to copy a good picture or is it because you were genuinely inspired by the subject in front of you? Therein lies the difference

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Aug 2022 16:28:53 No.4074373 Report

Quoted By: >>4074556

"If it is art, it is not for all, and if it is for all, it is not art."

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2022 01:57:41 No.4074556 Report

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>>4074373
>Arnold Schoenberg

Elitist bollocks, art is for everyone

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2022 01:58:48 No.4074558 Report

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>>4073909
Pretty good if you keep in mind he was doing the a e s t h e t i c documentary thing before it was a thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2022 03:47:56 No.4074588 Report

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>>4074328
it looks like piss though

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2022 03:50:51 No.4074591 Report

Quoted By: >>4074592 >>4074594 >>4075700

>>4073909
>>4073909
God, imagine being in that photo. Sitting down in that booth and slumping back into it. One hand is by your side and the other rests on the table, your fingers just barely grazing the cold cup and the condensation on it wets the tips of your fingers. You could grab it and sip it any time you want to but you don't need to. And as you lean back you sigh and feel the biggest wave of relief you've ever felt because you're in 1970 and won't have to witness the 21st century for another 30 years. Imagine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2022 03:52:44 No.4074592 Report

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>>4074591
>le born in le wrong generation meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2022 04:22:25 No.4074594 Report

Quoted By: >>4074597

>>4074591
Yup, imagine not being able post romanticised gibberish on 4chud because the internet wont be a thing for another 20 years

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2022 04:35:09 No.4074597 Report

Quoted By: >>4074598

>>4074594
I'm drunk. your insults wash off of me

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2022 04:43:19 No.4074598 Report

Quoted By: >>4074613

>>4074597
based alcoholic anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2022 05:37:22 No.4074613 Report

Quoted By: >>4074617

>>4074598
cheers bro haha

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2022 05:40:41 No.4074617 Report

Quoted By: >>4074643

>>4074613
oh no i feel sorry for you haha

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2022 06:13:53 No.4074643 Report

Quoted By: >>4074658

>>4074617
what? why? I'm having a good time, got my work done have a few beers and then shitpost on /p/ although I still do stand by the sentiment of my little diatribe there, I'd rather have passed away without being subjected to 2020 and beyond

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Aug 2022 07:09:15 No.4074658 Report

Quoted By: >>4075760

>>4074643
But the other anon is also correct. I you had lived then you would never have known /p/. You should be grateful for the life you have, it is a rare gift. Think of the trillions upon trillions of lives that wind up in the end of a condom, wiped off with a bit of tissue or soaked into the sheets. You are one of the lucky few that made it all the way. Cherish the time you have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2022 19:53:11 No.4075700 Report

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>>4074591
it's a comfy place, yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Sep 2022 23:20:22 No.4075760 Report

Quoted By: >>4075776

>>4074658
Those aren't lives, those never had the chance. If anything think of the ~40 million per fuck that didn't make it to the egg. Those at least had the chance. Or the sadder lost lives, those who died after being conceived. Either murdered or lost to natural causes. The in vitro embryos not deemed the fittest that simply get discarded are a specially sad one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2022 01:23:46 No.4075776 Report

Quoted By: >>4075779

>>4075760
Buddhists believe all organisms have souls. namarupa
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namarupa

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2022 01:46:19 No.4075779 Report

Quoted By: >>4075799

>>4075776
do each of our cells count as as organism, though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2022 03:27:25 No.4075799 Report

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>>4075779
no. and egg and sperm weren't seen as having a transmigrated soul, but they were seen as the continuation of the process of death and rebirth. the seed and watering, which then produces a tree.

abortion was viewed as a great sin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Sep 2022 14:23:16 No.4075894 Report

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>>4073921
easily the best one. although my mom had this framed in our house when i was growing up so maybe i'm just biased

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Sep 2022 00:18:11 No.4076005 Report

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>>4074201
leiter>haas>eggleston

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Sep 2022 13:23:14 No.4076440 Report

Quoted By: >>4076504

>>4074225
>i kow he primarily shot leica with kodachrome film.
He also did a lot of large format work and I think some Hasselblad. I think he went digital years ago unless I'm thinking about someone else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Sep 2022 18:37:20 No.4076504 Report

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>>4076440
He died in 1986, so that would have been a hell of an accomplishment.

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