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Anonymous Sat 31 Dec 2022 04:12:53 No.4118175 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>4118242 >>4119865 >>4121479 >>4121485 >>4122054 >>4122595 >>4122864

A thread dedicated to the discussion of all things film and film cameras!

On the last episode >>4113926, we found our heros discussing black and white photography, where will their exploits take them next, will it be medium and large format photography? Tune in to find out!

>Best entry-level camera and/or film stock for medium/large format?
>TLR cameras: are they a meme or are the hipsters on to something?
>What's the best photo ratio and why? - 4x5, 6x6, 6x7, 8x10, other?
>You DO home dev your medium/large format photos, right anon...?
>Printing - how big is too big?

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Anonymous Sat 31 Dec 2022 09:49:34 No.4118242 Report

Quoted By: >>4118718

>>4118175
>>Best entry-level camera and/or film stock for medium/large format?
Medium format: Foma 100 (only that and not any others), RPX 100/400. For a camera probably a Bronica but MF has inflated like crazy. Mamiya C might be worth looking into, it's not that expensive, but TLRs are not everyone's thing. View cameras with 6x9 roll film backs are also competitive price-wise but come with all the inconvenience of using a view camera.
Large format: Foma 200. Cheapo ass Wista 45 will get you started.
>>TLR cameras: are they a meme or are the hipsters on to something?
Mamiya C33 is the only one I've tried that I actually like. Most are too light, small and fiddly to comfortably use with shovel hands. Couldn't guarantee steady shots on a Rolleicord at 1/60 because of how fiddly the shutter release is and the camera weighs nothing so is very easy to shake. But with how inflated MF SLRs and Texas Leicas have become it may actually be a viable choice to get started.
>>What's the best photo ratio and why? - 4x5, 6x6, 6x7, 8x10, other?
As a landscape fag 6x9.
>>You DO home dev your medium/large format photos, right anon...?
B&W at home, color goes to the lab.
>>Printing - how big is too big?
Never really printed, dunno.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Dec 2022 11:30:16 No.4118264 Report

Quoted By: >>4118543

If anyone has any more hints on getting nice pictures for printing at A3 size I am still listening <3

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2023 11:56:24 No.4118538 Report

Quoted By: >>4118602 >>4118834

>new year's festivities
>gearfag threads remain active around the clock
>/fgt/ goes completely silent
Like pottery

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2023 12:15:12 No.4118543 Report

Quoted By: >>4118943

>>4118264
shoot digital and send it out lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2023 16:20:42 No.4118602 Report

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>>4118538
are you saying /fgt/s are out taking photos...?

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Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2023 16:23:09 No.4118606 Report

Quoted By: >>4118609 >>4118612

Aight lads i finally devd the shits i took with the old Fed 3a i just bought
Thank you very much old scratched soviet lens, no need to buy a soft and mist filter
might cop a Jupiter 8 50mm f/2 this january

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2023 16:25:52 No.4118609 Report

Quoted By: >>4118610 >>4118628

>>4118606
the reason why my negs are all dusty is on that picture.
goofy had to run everywhere in the garden then he decided to hang around my drying negs

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2023 16:27:04 No.4118610 Report

Quoted By: >>4118614

>>4118609
Rollei Superpan has some super neat contrasts tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2023 16:29:40 No.4118612 Report

Quoted By: >>4118616 >>4119511

>>4118606
Dude scale that shit down.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2023 16:30:09 No.4118614 Report

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>>4118610
>surely you must be a huge hipster, buying a 60yo camera to shoot monochrom with it
indeed i am, i even have the fat strap

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2023 16:32:27 No.4118616 Report

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>>4118612
it seems i took the ones from the unresized folder, thank you for pointing that out i'll be careful next time

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2023 16:38:51 No.4118620 Report

Quoted By: >>4118635 >>4119531

800T is a meme

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2023 17:07:03 No.4118628 Report

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>>4118609
the scratches add to this pic

feels very comfy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2023 18:07:44 No.4118635 Report

Quoted By:

>>4118620
it's a tungsten light based film, of course your picture will come out blue as fuck if you use natural light

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2023 22:19:55 No.4118718 Report

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>>4118242
>Most are too light, small and fiddly to comfortably use with shovel hands. Couldn't guarantee steady shots on a Rolleicord at 1/60 because of how fiddly the shutter release is and the camera weighs nothing so is very easy to shake
TLRs are meant to be wedded to their neckstrap, and braced against it when shooting. Freehanding a TLR is just doing it wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jan 2023 22:21:16 No.4118721 Report

Quoted By: >>4120284

Any news of Fugufulm? Some reversal faster than 100 would sure be nice to have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jan 2023 03:44:20 No.4118834 Report

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>>4118538
I took some christmas shots on gold 200 but I'm waiting to finish my xp2 roll before I get it developed.
Postage is annoyingly expensive

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jan 2023 03:59:50 No.4118843 Report

Quoted By: >>4118846 >>4119716

Are there any buying guides out there for b&w 35mm film scanners? Looking to cheap out as much as reasonably possible and buy a used one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jan 2023 04:06:21 No.4118846 Report

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>>4118843
I assume negative supply have something for you
You could also go on youtube or something, I don't scan myself but I've seen a few video guides here and there as a curiosity
There's also just mounting a macro lens to a digital and pointing it straight down at the negative.
As long as you can totally fill the frame on the digital with your negative and properly focus on the grain you should be good iirc

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jan 2023 06:19:26 No.4118885 Report

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how are the results of the ilford simplicity chemical set? are they worth using again after the single batch that comes with the Paterson tank set?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jan 2023 06:32:06 No.4118892 Report

Quoted By: >>4119242

Would someone care to post some portra 800 shots? I'm excited to see how mine turn out. f/8 with indoor bounce flash and 1/200 s outdoor in overcast weather mad things easy for me this xmas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Jan 2023 09:00:45 No.4118943 Report

Quoted By: >>4119396

>>4118543
Mooooooooooooods

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Anonymous Mon 02 Jan 2023 20:55:28 No.4119242 Report

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>>4118892
only time i've used portra 800 was under artificial light on medium format, so it might not help much
really it's portra 160 but grainier, nothing more about it

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 05:16:16 No.4119391 Report

Quoted By: >>4122594

Why does this happen? I've also shot fuji superia 400 and I never get these huge white bands.
(shot on fomapan 100)

Zach

Zach Tue 03 Jan 2023 05:37:48 No.4119396 Report

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>>4118943
I call you piss-in-pants snitch pussy who can't mind his own business.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 11:17:00 No.4119469 Report

Quoted By: >>4119517 >>4119555 >>4119679 >>4122594

Any recommended scanners for 35mm?
Mine's (HP Deskjet Ink Advantage 1516) quality seems rather poor (picture related.)
I'm considering a Canon Lide 500F, but I'm unsure if the quality would be much better. Can't spend much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 14:30:13 No.4119511 Report

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>>4118612
Fuck you how are we gonna see the CA otherwise?????

fe2fucker

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fe2fucker Tue 03 Jan 2023 14:54:06 No.4119517 Report

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>>4119469
I got an old nikon coolscan ls2000 and im very happy with the quality.
Resolution isn't very high but for regular consumer films/anything above 200 iso its great.

Only caveat is that it requires a scsi card, mine is an old pci connected one so i had to get a pci to pci-e adapter. Drivers work fine with win10 and vuescan however, and for the price ('bout 150 bucks) i cant really complain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 15:39:26 No.4119531 Report

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>>4118620
>A tungsten film is a meme because I'm a retard who don't even know how to use it properly
Cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 16:50:24 No.4119555 Report

Quoted By: >>4119756

>>4119469
Plustek or a digital camera scanning rig. No flatbed is going to give you anywhere decent results with 35mm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 16:58:13 No.4119557 Report

Quoted By: >>4119657

>Have two 35mm rolls to develop plus a 120 one with two other cameras in the mail to test
how do I stop

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 20:35:14 No.4119656 Report

Quoted By: >>4119665

Just received a Pentax 645 and an Olympus OM-G for effectively free. Thing is, there's issues with both of them since they've been sitting in their case for 25 years.

Are they worth investing repairs in to shoot with or am I better off selling the parts for other cameras

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 20:36:16 No.4119657 Report

Quoted By: >>4119681

>>4119557
Can you describe the process you use to test cameras? Is it just taking a shot of the same thing repeatedly using every different setting combination?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 20:45:44 No.4119665 Report

Quoted By: >>4119675

>>4119656
If seeking out professional repairs for a $500-$600 medium format film camera is not worth it to you, just send it to me for the cost of shipping.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 21:13:55 No.4119675 Report

Quoted By: >>4119677

>>4119665
I'm more interested in the OM-G, but they're like a hundred bucks or less on ebay and I'm not sure if it's worth spending about the same just to repair the one I have when I could just sell the lens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 21:22:51 No.4119677 Report

Quoted By: >>4119686

>>4119675
Medium format film is the penultimate in film shooting. it defines what film is really about in this century (equaling the performance of a $5000 MILC and looking a bit better, cost per shot offset by how rarely you need that quality). Keep the 645. Fix the 645. Use the 645. The OM-G is a junk camera, just sell it, keep the lens if it's clear, and put it on an OM-2 or something that some retard is selling as "parts only" because he doesn't know how it works.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 21:24:54 No.4119679 Report

Quoted By: >>4119756

>>4119469
>Any recommended scanners for 35mm?
a dslr will give you the quality of a $4k scanner for like under $600 all in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 21:37:31 No.4119681 Report

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>>4119657
Well since I bulk load I prepare a roll depending of the camera that I am testing, but yeah usually just try a shoot at every speed, if the hotshoe works properly, etc.

This time I am waiting for a 120 folding camera so I am worried about having severe light leaks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 22:02:47 No.4119686 Report

Quoted By: >>4119752

>>4119677
I'm hoping to use a 35mm for shorter trips, the 645 is fucking heavy in comparison. But I understand the sentiment and thanks for the insight, these are my first into the medium so I've no idea what I'm looking for in a camera. Looking online, 120 stock is cheaper per roll for that's balanced by having fewer shots per roll, right?

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 22:43:17 No.4119699 Report

Quoted By: >>4119719

New year new lens hoping to finish this roll of XX wall ng to work tomorrow so I can dev after.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 22:54:19 No.4119707 Report

Quoted By: >>4119717

Lads im going to go LAAARRRGGE FOOOORRRMMAATTT. The flash still fires on it too and the shutter speeds appear to work correctly. Im gonna record the audio and make sure. What film stock should I get first? A foma film?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 23:14:07 No.4119716 Report

Quoted By: >>4120768

>>4118843
Get a used opticfilm. Do not get a v600 unless scanning medium format

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 23:14:07 No.4119717 Report

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>>4119707
wink-light my ass that's a spot light lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 23:15:17 No.4119719 Report

Quoted By: >>4119722 >>4119732

>>4119699
How do you like the Bessa? I've been considering getting on but I know I don't actually need one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 23:24:27 No.4119722 Report

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>>4119719
not that guy but the bessa is a beast, just a bit heavy and unwieldy as I got it when I also got a baby, especially since the shoulder strap solution is a bit wonky. if I weren't parentally challenged it'd be perf

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Jan 2023 23:42:34 No.4119732 Report

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>>4119719
Love it. Have owned most models and they all worked amazingly well. The Bessa R2/R3/R4 are the best bang for your buck rangefinders you can buy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 00:05:50 No.4119746 Report

Quoted By: >>4119830 >>4119853 >>4119856

newb here - I was able to score some Rollei R09 since Rodinal is impossible to find. when using the Massive Dev Chart should I use Rodinal or another manufacturer's R09 as the developer?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 00:59:15 No.4119752 Report

Quoted By: >>4119757

>>4119686
120 is more expensive overall but the quality, when exposed to a well lit scene and scanned on leased pro equipment, is around 50 to 80 megapixels, sufficient for very large enlargements. You can also save developed slide film as a displayable picture. It's just cool.

If you want to use the 35mm just keep in mind the OM-G has poor build quality and faster idle battery drain than an OM-2n. If you want a more reliable film camera sell it and look for the later electronic SLRs, ie: pentax MZ/*ist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 01:22:54 No.4119756 Report

Quoted By: >>4119815 >>4121330

>>4119679
>>4119555
Oh, well. I'll try to find a decent but cheap DSLR, then.
I'll look for recommendations online and in the archives, but if you have some, please tell.
Thank you for the replies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 01:23:53 No.4119757 Report

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>>4119752
>faster idle battery drain
Wouldn't you know it, the manual says the battery can last 6-12 months but when I put some new ones in, they were completely dead (WITHOUT SHOOTING ANYTHING) in 48 hours.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 03:09:44 No.4119787 Report

Quoted By: >>4119795 >>4119809 >>4119813

Is there any reason I shouldn't get a camera like this to get started with film, especially if I don't have a lot of experience with cameras? It's newer, it's got autofocus, they're a dime a dozen, it can use older lenses with an adapter, it's way cheaper than a piece of equipment that's 30+ years old, what's not to love? Am I missing something by not getting a camera made in the 70s and 80s?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 03:45:56 No.4119795 Report

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>>4119787
get whatever you would feel comfortable with and gets you to go out shooting.
that being said there's a rush of adrenaline every time you pull the trigger on a full manual camera/lens and the sense of accomplishment when you get your scans back and they came out perfect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 04:11:24 No.4119798 Report

Quoted By: >>4122594

Photrio is the best place to discuss film photography.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 04:43:30 No.4119809 Report

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>>4119787
There's a reason why 90's and early 00's entry level SLRs are a dime in a dozen and cheap as dirt. They were dime in a dozen mass manufactured in Chinese sweatshops from components with varying degrees of quality and compared to older cameras they are more complex devices with many more points of failure. That being said you can still get pretty good bang for the buck with prosumer/professional models of the day, many of them are still pretty affordable. Pic related I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 04:52:36 No.4119813 Report

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>>4119787
Whatever works the best for you my man
I use old soviet shit because I prefer fully mechanical stuff, for my analog photography is taking a break from electronics. And because I hate myself

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 04:59:35 No.4119815 Report

Quoted By: >>4119817 >>4119834

>>4119756
>buy dslr to scan film
just shoot with the dslr lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 05:00:38 No.4119817 Report

Quoted By: >>4120759

>>4119815
there's a silvery look to black and white film i have literally never seen someone replicate with a digital camera

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 05:38:55 No.4119830 Report

Quoted By: >>4119853

>>4119746
>rodinal is impossible to find
are you living on the south pole?
try finding adonal, its the same thing or make your own rodinal

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 05:50:32 No.4119834 Report

Quoted By:

>>4119815
But then you dont get to experience the film camera which is like half the point of film photography.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 06:45:50 No.4119853 Report

Quoted By:

>>4119746
>>4119830
I found the answer I needed

>Rodinal, Adonal, R09 One Shot, R09
>
>The commercial version of Rodinal, as previously manufactured by Agfa, is currently sold under the following names:
>
> Adox Rodinal
> Compard R09 One Shot
> Blazinal (in Canada)
>
>If you have an older bottle, it may have one of these names:
>
> Adox Adonal
> Agfa Rodinal
> Compard R09 New
>
>Please use the times posted for Rodinal with any of the developers listed above.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 06:47:37 No.4119856 Report

Quoted By: >>4119985

>>4119746
rollei r09 can be safely used with either sets of times. more variation in times is found in the desired contrast than in any difference that exists between the various rodinals.
i.e. some people like thinner negatives vs denser ones and most of the difference on massive dev chart are found in that.
I recommend looking at filmdev.org for example images that will give you an idea of the results.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 07:09:11 No.4119865 Report

Quoted By: >>4119868

>>4118175
Which one of you DM'ed the Jap sellers to start scalping Rollei lenses for modern Zeiss prices?

Zach

Zach Wed 04 Jan 2023 07:22:25 No.4119868 Report

Quoted By: >>4119880 >>4119944

>>4119865
Whenever I see a cheap film camera or lens for sale, I message them with screenshots of the most expensive ones on ebay and they take the ad down a day later. People deserve to get their moneys worth when selling antiques.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 07:43:08 No.4119880 Report

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>>4119868
Rollei lenses are usually the same price as Contax lenses since they're sister systems, but not I'm seeing nips charge $1500 for 50mm f1.4 HFT Planars, which usually only go for $500 or less

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 11:16:01 No.4119944 Report

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>>4119868
This is unironically pretty based

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 14:02:51 No.4119985 Report

Quoted By:

>>4119856
>I recommend looking at filmdev.org for example images that will give you an idea of the results.
Thanks anon that's very helpful! too me, MDC isn't informative in this regard to the different dilutions and dev times. obviously I can just try each setting but without a bulk roll I can pull a few frames from, testing on a whole roll seems excessive for now

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Jan 2023 19:44:02 No.4120172 Report

Quoted By: >>4121067

Someone please tell me what I need to do for my film to look this fucked
>>4117319

sage

sage Thu 05 Jan 2023 00:22:30 No.4120252 Report

Quoted By: >>4120253 >>4120260 >>4120271 >>4120414

anyone here used kentmere pan 400 on 35mm? considering buying a few rolls since it's the cheapest b&w film on B&H per exposure, but if it's absolute dogshit I probably won't buy any rolls. other cheap b&w film suggestions also welcome.

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 00:28:32 No.4120253 Report

Quoted By: >>4120258 >>4120282

>>4120252
Yeah. Push it at least one stop so it actually has contrast.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 00:44:03 No.4120258 Report

Quoted By:

>>4120253
Thanks, nice dog.

cinefag !CinE/QyYt6

cinefag !CinE/QyYt6 Thu 05 Jan 2023 00:47:38 No.4120260 Report

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>>4120252
It's about as good as HP5+, probably the same emulsion. The base is flimsier though. It's hard to find a "bad" B&W stock, even Foma 400 gave me good results.

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 03:11:23 No.4120271 Report

Quoted By: >>4120277

>>4120252
if you're thinking about cost per exposure, maybe you should start bulk loading. A 100' roll of fomapan is $64usd, works out to $3.5/roll.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 03:44:24 No.4120277 Report

Quoted By: >>4120295 >>4120409

>>4120271
How much is your time worth? How long will it take for the bulk loading equipment to pay for itself? If you expose part of or a whole roll, didn't you just set yourself back months? Also, you always lose half of the last shot.

Home development makes more sense than bulk loading if you use cafenol or pc-tea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 03:44:30 No.4120278 Report

Quoted By: >>4120290 >>4120409

Basic and dumb questions, but I have two since I just got into film and was given a point and shoot from a relative.

Does B&W film generally require less light for a decent image? ie: will 400 ISO b&w film be brighter in low light conditions than 400 ISO color film?

And, would shooting a higher ISO film pulled to a lower number be brighter than the same film but if the lower number was box speed? Asking because the point and shoot in question uses DX tags to determine ISO, and it has a relatively low maximum of 400 ISO that it can switch to.

Thanks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 03:49:25 No.4120282 Report

Quoted By:

>>4120253
same for Pan 100?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 04:18:18 No.4120284 Report

Quoted By:

>>4118721
>>4118721
Might as well be a hoax at this point, with updates nowhere to be seen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 04:34:41 No.4120290 Report

Quoted By:

>>4120278
no but why you're asking is misunderstanding some stuff you should do (i think) which is shoot at 400 and develop at 800 or 1600. b&w film can handle it.

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 04:46:34 No.4120294 Report

Quoted By: >>4120323

Urbexing with a Nettar is a struggle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 04:46:39 No.4120295 Report

Quoted By:

>>4120277
How is time consuming? I mean is just putting the big ass roll of film inside the loader and filling your cartridges.
Losing half a shot is worth considering tho

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 06:13:41 No.4120316 Report

Quoted By: >>4120337

shot on fuji 400, converted to bnw

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 06:33:26 No.4120323 Report

Quoted By:

>>4120294
>Urbexing with a Nettar is a struggle.
easier than a kiev 60. good shot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 07:52:11 No.4120337 Report

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>>4120316
Why is the house out of focus

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 13:13:56 No.4120409 Report

Quoted By: >>4120427 >>4122594

>>4120277
>How much is your time worth?
It takes 10min tops start to finish to bulk load 18 36exp canisters and I do it on my couch while watching tv.
>How long will it take for the bulk loading equipment to pay for itself?
One 100' roll
>If you expose part of or a whole roll, didn't you just set yourself back months?
Sure, don't be an idiot. I've never done that.
>Also, you always lose half of the last shot.
That doesn't count as one of the 36 exposures. You get 36 full exposures on 18 rolls of film from 100'. I usually get a shorty 19th roll as a bonus.

>>4120278
>will 400 ISO b&w film be brighter in low light conditions than 400 ISO color film?
No, 400iso is 400iso.
>And, would shooting a higher ISO film pulled to a lower number be brighter than the same film but if the lower number was box speed?
Pulling is something you do in developing. Shooting a higher iso film like 800 and setting your camera to 400iso will result in you overexposing the roll by 1 stop, so yes it will be brighter than if you had shot the roll at it's box speed of 800.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 13:22:10 No.4120414 Report

Quoted By: >>4120417

>>4120252
If only Kentmere started doing 120

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 13:36:45 No.4120417 Report

Quoted By:

>>4120414
https://www.ilfordphoto.com/kentmere-400-120

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 13:54:49 No.4120427 Report

Quoted By: >>4120430 >>4120577

>>4120409
>It takes 10min tops start to finish to bulk load 18 36exp canisters and I do it on my couch while watching tv
How is it done? You need to do it in complete darkness, don't you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 14:10:27 No.4120430 Report

Quoted By: >>4120496 >>4121993

>>4120427
Just putting the roll inside of the loader. Everything else can be done in daylight.

Unless of course you are hand loading. But why would you do that

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 16:58:11 No.4120496 Report

Quoted By: >>4120508 >>4120522 >>4120577

>>4120430
Different anon, I'm interested in bulk loading if that's the best way to avoid the sheer criminal price increase of single roll stock.

Is there a specific bulk loader you'd suggest over others? And where do you purchase the 100' rolls?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 17:10:21 No.4120505 Report

Quoted By:

Any recommended books/resources on film development?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 17:11:38 No.4120508 Report

Quoted By: >>4120522 >>4120559 >>4120564

>>4120496
Not the person you're replying to but I've heard that Lloyd's daylight loader is the standard and recommended daylight loader for 35mm film

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 17:17:03 No.4120522 Report

Quoted By: >>4120564

>>4120496
I have a king one that I got from a lot auction from japan. But as this anon said
>>4120508
its the most common one, I like the King because I can set how much film goes into each cartridge with the knobs, the Lloyds to my understanding are more based on how many times you crank it.

The rolls well depends what you are looking to use, I shoot mainly Shangai GP3 so I got it from Aliexpress lmao, but everyone here seems to despise it.
B&H and freestyle have different stocks anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 17:52:33 No.4120559 Report

Quoted By: >>4120563 >>4120577

>>4120508
>counting turns
really?
but sure maybe its worth it considering that AP or Kaiser with built in frame counters are twice and three times the price

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 18:03:48 No.4120563 Report

Quoted By: >>4120567

>>4120559
It's not hard to count turns.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 18:04:42 No.4120564 Report

Quoted By:

>>4120508
>>4120522
Thanks for the rec, so you need a separate device for 120, or is 120 bulk loading not even possible? Do you guys really shoot that much film as to need so much? I find myself hardly finding enough opportunities to go out and shoot as is and I live in a pretty big city

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 18:14:24 No.4120567 Report

Quoted By: >>4120569

>>4120563
sure, but doing it 18 times in a row doesnt sound fun
maybe worth saving the $50, its after all the price of a 100' roll of fomapan

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 18:19:26 No.4120569 Report

Quoted By:

>>4120567
Fair enough

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 18:39:03 No.4120575 Report

Quoted By: >>4120712

I found this little guy in a random drawer. Any idea how to fix the lens cover?

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 18:39:28 No.4120577 Report

Quoted By: >>4120754

>>4120427
No, you put the 100' roll into the bulkloader in complete darkness. After that you can load the 35mm in daylight.

>>4120496
Llyods or Watson are what most people use. They can be had for ~$20 off eBay all day.
You can buy 100' rolls from b&h, adorama, freestyle, ultrafine, etc.

>>4120559
you don't need to count turns, the loader has a counter on the side. just turn until you hit the desired number of exposures.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 20:32:04 No.4120626 Report

Quoted By: >>4120628 >>4120630 >>4120636 >>4120648 >>4120649 >>4121132

is the dim red safelight used for printing also safe for getting film onto spools for development? B&W specifically, no colour film. I'm sick of doing it in total darkness

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 20:33:27 No.4120628 Report

Quoted By:

>>4120626
no, film is sensitive to red

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 20:50:15 No.4120630 Report

Quoted By: >>4120672

>>4120626
Sadly not. You could use this trick to make it quite a bit easier to load it onto the reel, though: https://youtu.be/2kHUDMoSlUM , the only part that you load onto the reel in daylight is already exposed when you wind it in the camera

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 20:56:47 No.4120636 Report

Quoted By:

>>4120626
only if you shoot orthochromatic film

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 21:13:20 No.4120647 Report

Quoted By:

Are there any sites that have price comparisons of different film across several sites? Something akin to PCPartPicker but with film. I searched online but the only ones I found pretended that all shipping was free and/or were horribly outdated and missing several popular films

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 21:13:55 No.4120648 Report

Quoted By: >>4120649 >>4121134 >>4121165 >>4121166

>>4120626
Are night vision goggles worth buying for this purpose

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 21:15:39 No.4120649 Report

Quoted By: >>4120650 >>4120672 >>4120831

>>4120626
>>4120648
is not that hard yo, is just like unclipping a bra.

Unless you are using stainless steel reels, those are a bitch get paterson plastic style ones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 21:19:41 No.4120650 Report

Quoted By:

>>4120649
>unclipping a bra
Do you really think me or anyone else on this board has experience doing that? You overestimate us!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 21:51:41 No.4120672 Report

Quoted By: >>4120682

>>4120630
eh, should have thought of that myself
>>4120649
it's not hard when it goes well, but 1 in 20 times it goes not so well and I stand cursing in the dark bathroom for fifteen minutes fiddling with film and spools

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 22:04:09 No.4120682 Report

Quoted By: >>4120711 >>4120714

>>4120672
buy picrel

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 23:12:38 No.4120711 Report

Quoted By: >>4120719

>>4120682
Not the person you're replying to, but are these better than the rolls that come with Paterson developing tanks?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 23:13:30 No.4120712 Report

Quoted By:

>>4120575
>these are listed at like 80 dollars currently
jesus christ

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 23:24:19 No.4120714 Report

Quoted By: >>4120758

>>4120682
I'd rather improve my skills than just buy new stuff, loading straight from the can may just do it for me, I'll be developing tonight so I'll see how it goes

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Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 23:42:46 No.4120719 Report

Quoted By: >>4120726

>>4120711
Yes, much better. Also makes it stupid easy to double up two rolls of 120 on a single reel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Jan 2023 23:57:52 No.4120726 Report

Quoted By: >>4120766

>>4120719
do two 120 rolls even fit on a single patterson spool? I was always doing two tanks with one roll in each

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Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 00:06:11 No.4120732 Report

Quoted By:

This was a 1s exposure on APX 400, very little light

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Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 00:09:27 No.4120734 Report

Quoted By:

1/30s at f/8 IIRC

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 01:05:35 No.4120754 Report

Quoted By: >>4120760 >>4120767

>>4120577
I'm looking at the stores you've listed, and just to be clear, there's NO color 100' rolls? All I see is B&W.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 01:09:23 No.4120758 Report

Quoted By:

>>4120714
yep, loading from cans with leader started on the spool is way easier than what I was doing, only downside was I had to grip the scissors with my knees so I don't forget where I put them in the dark
Looking at the negatives it looks like I managed to nail at least one or two long exposure fireworks with a good guess. Crossing fingers it looks good, or at least as what it was, when I flip it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 01:12:28 No.4120759 Report

Quoted By:

>>4119817
Every filmfag on the board couldn't tell apart b/w digital and film when some fuji user posted like 3 different AB comparisons. Shoot b/w film because you enjoy the process and the cameras, not because you think there's some special quality to it that doesn't exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 01:14:14 No.4120760 Report

Quoted By:

>>4120754
No color rolls, the closer is bulk loading Kodak Vision. But that is another can of worms, speaking about processing it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 01:26:07 No.4120766 Report

Quoted By:

>>4120726
Patterson reels are advertised as being 220 capable, so yes 2 rolls of 120 fit fine. A roll of 35mm is longer

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Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 01:28:36 No.4120767 Report

Quoted By:

>>4120754
You can buy 400` of Ektachrome for $650 but that's it as far as colour goes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 01:30:28 No.4120768 Report

Quoted By:

>>4119716
>opticfilm
Any ones in particular?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 01:31:29 No.4120769 Report

Quoted By:

Recommended DSLR cameras for 35mm film scanning? Looking to get as cheap a decent setup as possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 02:34:36 No.4120792 Report

Quoted By:

Are there photo galleries where I can see the same shot repeated but at different settings?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 04:18:52 No.4120831 Report

Quoted By:

>>4120649
>is just like unclipping a bra.
it only counts if you can do it one handed?

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Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 04:45:34 No.4120836 Report

Quoted By: >>4121456

Some more Nettar urbex lol. The viewfinder in the camera is an inaccurate piece of shit so it's hard to tell what you're actually getting in frame, and also the lens distance scale is not accurate. Good luck.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 04:47:08 No.4120837 Report

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Accidental selfie because forgot to unplug the flash.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 04:48:15 No.4120838 Report

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Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 04:49:23 No.4120839 Report

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Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 04:54:52 No.4120844 Report

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Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 04:55:58 No.4120845 Report

Quoted By:

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 06:47:50 No.4120880 Report

Quoted By: >>4121009

just got a set of tiffen color filters (you know the set). how often do you use color filters for b&w?

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Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 12:32:30 No.4121009 Report

Quoted By: >>4121021

>>4120880
Always have a yellow or orange on unless it's night or foggy.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 12:57:31 No.4121018 Report

Quoted By:

got my bw wet printing stuff set up finally

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 13:22:10 No.4121021 Report

Quoted By: >>4121275

>>4121009
>Always have a yellow or orange on unless it's night or foggy.
what for? I'd get green but yellow or orange? Why?

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Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 13:35:22 No.4121026 Report

Quoted By: >>4121028 >>4121128 >>4122597

Hey /p/,

First time poster here. I just started film photography recently and I'd like some feedback on my pics. I've got a small background in digital photography so I'm not a total newbie, however this was my first time using film format.

The pics I'm sharing were shot on a Nikon F3 with a 50mm f1.4 lense. Film was Amber D400

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Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 13:42:36 No.4121028 Report

Quoted By: >>4121030

>>4121026
Unfortunately Kitamura Camera scans in shit resolution and I forgot to ask for the negatives back. Big mistake I think.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 13:45:28 No.4121030 Report

Quoted By: >>4121031 >>4121128

>>4121028

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Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 13:46:32 No.4121031 Report

Quoted By:

>>4121030

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Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 16:11:58 No.4121067 Report

Quoted By:

>>4120172
According to the guy I got that camera off of, die and leave your film cameras in a bag that smells of damp.
Make sure to develop post-mortem before the mould gets too bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 16:30:27 No.4121078 Report

Quoted By: >>4121083 >>4121087

What's the cheapest but most effective way to scan negatives? I see there's a similar question in this thread, but I don't have a DSLR or a (competent) scanner. Are there any alternatives to these two methods?
I'd rather do it at home.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 16:54:51 No.4121083 Report

Quoted By: >>4121186 >>4121188

>>4121078
Some quick googling shows some people using smartphones and tablets as budget scanners/lightboxes
https://cameralegend.com/tag/how-to-scan-film-without-scanner/
I have doubts as to the effectiveness but I guess if you have a big enough MP count in the phone camera it might do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 16:57:18 No.4121087 Report

Quoted By: >>4121186

>>4121078
effective meaning what exactly?
fast turnover? good scans? least hassle?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 18:57:42 No.4121128 Report

Quoted By:

>>4121026
>film photography, place
>film photography, japan
but really, neat pics my yellow friend
especially like this one >>4121030

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 19:21:55 No.4121132 Report

Quoted By:

>>4120626
>4120626
With a film changing bag you can at least be in the light yourself. You can use it to fill a bulk loader for instance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 19:32:13 No.4121134 Report

Quoted By: >>4121137 >>4121207

>>4120648
Your face will reflect their light output and forget about IR film unless you’re using proper NODS. The green reflections off your face will fog film. So will cheap NVG that shits green light out the front. You at least need to seal any light leaks you have with a sort of hood with a cutout for the NVG or felt/foam padding.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 19:43:18 No.4121137 Report

Quoted By:

>>4121134
>why yes, I develop my own film

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Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 20:16:29 No.4121145 Report

Quoted By: >>4122597

Lab pushed C200

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 21:02:19 No.4121165 Report

Quoted By:

>>4120648
No, unless you're prepared to spend an unreasonable amount of money. Early gen goggles are absolutely worthless with tiny field of view and blurry image, you're far better off trusting your other senses than a blurry ass post stamp resolution image.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 21:11:44 No.4121166 Report

Quoted By:

>>4120648
Jokes aside, you would actually run the risk of exposing your film from the very visible light coming out of them, reflecting off your face.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 21:53:20 No.4121186 Report

Quoted By:

>>4121083
I'll try this out, thank you.
>>4121087
Meaning "best possible quality."
I don't have many negatives and some hassle wouldn't bother me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 21:55:56 No.4121188 Report

Quoted By:

>>4121083
>using a phone, whose are know for having shitty cameras to scan negatives
what is
the point

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 22:21:59 No.4121207 Report

Quoted By:

>>4121134
Dev in a large darktent, pike NVG through a small sealed hole. Or use a cheap starlight CCTV camera and a nice big monitor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 22:32:34 No.4121212 Report

Quoted By: >>4121221

After pondering thoroughly for a long time, I've come to the conclusion that Portra 160 is the best color negative film.
This is a unrefutable fact.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 23:01:36 No.4121221 Report

Quoted By: >>4121229

>>4121212
sources?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jan 2023 23:28:23 No.4121229 Report

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>>4121221
It was revealed to me in my frigde.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 01:52:43 No.4121275 Report

Quoted By:

>>4121021
Why would you use a green?

Yellow/orange cut down on haze and add more contrast to skies and smooth out skin for portraits.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 02:29:06 No.4121288 Report

Quoted By: >>4121289 >>4121295 >>4121334 >>4121356

>tfw bought a mamiya rb67 off ebay and the lens is fucked up resulting in everything being blurry
i'm never falling for it again, i'm going to stick with my f90x and never venture out of it ever again.
really though, what would cause this? it's shot on a tripod with a pretty speedy shutter speed, and every single shot off the rolls i sent in are like this. (i'm aware of the light leak, that's not the a big deal like the blurring)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 02:31:12 No.4121289 Report

Quoted By: >>4121293

>>4121288
What aperture? pls don't say f32

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 02:34:19 No.4121293 Report

Quoted By: >>4121295 >>4121473

>>4121289
i don't recall particular, but i stick to f/8 for the majority of everything, f/5.6 as well, but never above f/16 i can promise that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 02:40:55 No.4121295 Report

Quoted By: >>4121356

>>4121288
>>4121293
looks like one of the elements is decentered. just my guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 05:14:25 No.4121330 Report

Quoted By: >>4121473

>>4119756
Did you end up finding any common suggestions for the dslr for scanning? I'm wondering if there's a minimum megapixel count after which most models should work fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 06:02:56 No.4121334 Report

Quoted By:

>>4121288
Looks like the scanner isn’t focused desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 07:54:49 No.4121356 Report

Quoted By:

>>4121288
What >>4121295 said, the lens is probably fucked. See if you can borrow one from somewhere and test it. Also if you have a high magnification loupe, set the camera up, remove the finder and look around throughout the frame how things appear to be in focus. I should be able to see discrepancies if it's the lens which produces them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 12:57:41 No.4121456 Report

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>>4120836
Wish I lived somewhere that had good urbex prospects, these are cool as fuck.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 13:06:29 No.4121458 Report

Quoted By: >>4121464

Co-worker gave me a roll of Tesla 1 film to try out, pretty cool gimmicky film. This is probably my favourite picture of the roll but kinda wish it didn't have the plasma but it was fun.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 13:07:55 No.4121459 Report

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 13:09:01 No.4121460 Report

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 13:12:18 No.4121461 Report

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 13:13:43 No.4121463 Report

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 13:16:12 No.4121464 Report

Quoted By: >>4121466

>>4121458
wow its Kodak Gold but with lightning png's etched into it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 13:18:51 No.4121466 Report

Quoted By:

>>4121464
supposedly they electrocute the film or something retarded, a cool party trick gimmick but not something I'd actually buy.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 13:52:46 No.4121473 Report

Quoted By: >>4121483 >>4121681 >>4123063

>>4121293
If the neg is blurred on the sides when looking via a loupe the lens is fuckered. If it isn't, your neg isn't flat while scanning.

>>4121330
I'd say 24mp and up is nice. Nice getting 6000x4000 350dpi scans. Depends what your goals are with the scans. If you won't be printing you could do 16mp easily. Most important part is getting a good macro lens to use. Don't try to use a normal lens + a bunch of extension tubes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 14:22:45 No.4121479 Report

Quoted By:

>>4118175
>>Best entry-level camera and/or film stock for medium/large format?
I loved my Mamiya 645e but ended up selling it. I wasn't using it at all due to film/dev prices, and I had a rough stretch. I think about buying back into MF but...these fucking film prices. It's not even the equipment, I'm making money again. It's the damn film.

>>TLR cameras: are they a meme or are the hipsters on to something?
I still have my Yashica, but it's basically a decorative piece. I could never adjust to a waist level finder, and I didn't like being stuck with one lens.

>>What's the best photo ratio and why? - 4x5, 6x6, 6x7, 8x10, other?
Right now? 645 because it gets you most of the MF IQ gain for common print sizes, but is the most economical. If I won lottery I would love to try 4x5.

>>You DO home dev your medium/large format photos, right anon...?
Before the god damn fucking pandemic I lived close to a fine arts center that just had stupid cheap day pricing. You could bring your film and paper and develop/print all day.

>>Printing - how big is too big?
Too many variables to answer (lighting, subject, lens, aperture, shutter, format, film stock, method of enlargement).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 14:31:54 No.4121483 Report

Quoted By:

>>4121473
>R-D1
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 14:52:03 No.4121485 Report

Quoted By: >>4121486

>>4118175
>>Best entry-level camera and/or film stock for medium/large format?
My first MF camera was a Kodak folding brownie followed by a Kiev 6C, shot mostly Foma on them before kodak gold came out so I'd say those since they're cheap.
I see Mamiya Press 23s/Universals going for relatively cheap compared to other MF cameras so if you can get the backs with good seals then I'd say those are a good pick too, though they are cumbersome.
>>TLR cameras: are they a meme or are the hipsters on to something?
From what little experience I've had with them, they are fun. I wouldn't consider them a meme compared to shooting with any other film camera.
>>What's the best photo ratio and why? - 4x5, 6x6, 6x7, 8x10, other?
I have no preference but I primarily shoot 6x6 since it's easy for my small brain to compose.
>>You DO home dev your medium/large format photos, right anon...?
Hopefully soon.
>>Printing - how big is too big?
Never printed before because I'm cheap and a pussy.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 15:03:42 No.4121486 Report

Quoted By: >>4121487 >>4121686

>>4121485
>recommending Kiev for a starter camera
You really want newbies to have a hard time don't you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 15:10:07 No.4121487 Report

Quoted By:

>>4121486
>hard time
I know of the problems they can have and I probably just got lucky with mine, but for 100 bucks I really can't complain since mine has worked mostly fine. And you can of course get it upgraded by ARAX or buy an upgraded one from Hartblei for 300-400, but at that price there are objectively better crafted cameras from other brands, so that option is probably more for dedicated autism who really like that system and history of soviet slavshit.
I only put it forward because it was one of my first MF cameras.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 16:24:58 No.4121501 Report

Quoted By: >>4121503 >>4121548

Does anyone have any experience with either the Vivitar v335 or the Minolta x-700? My local camera store if offering a good deal on both and I'm looking for one that's reliable and suitable for beginners. Would love to know if anyone recommends one over the other.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 16:37:23 No.4121503 Report

Quoted By: >>4121504 >>4121507 >>4121636

>>4121501
Everyone waxes poetic about the X-700, and they are fairly nice to use, but also from the viewpoint of a camera repairer I dislike them. Though they aren't as dogshit to work on as XG and X-300s.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 16:40:52 No.4121504 Report

Quoted By: >>4121507 >>4121636

>>4121503
And I'm not saying to not get the X-700, people love them for a reason, just god forgive the person who needs to fix it if it breaks especially if it's an electronic issue.
I can't say anything about the Vivitar though so I'd say to get the X-700.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 16:56:26 No.4121507 Report

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>>4121503
>>4121504
Genuinely sell the broken body for spares and buy a new working one. Theyre like 70 bux which for such a nice camera is a bargain, even less if you get them in a thrift store.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 18:05:27 No.4121548 Report

Quoted By: >>4121566 >>4121636

>>4121501
I got the X-700 10 years ago back when these things were still cheap and it was my mainstay for many years. I can't say much about the Vivitar (or rather, Cosina) but the X-700 was Minolta's flagship model before the AF era and is a quality piece of work. Excellent to handle too, I love Minolta's ergonomics. And if you get the motor winder handle gizmo it's even better, especially if you have ogre hands like mine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 18:44:58 No.4121566 Report

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>>4121548
you are a big guy

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 20:33:41 No.4121623 Report

Quoted By: >>4121624 >>4121687 >>4121874

Shot some HP5 for the first time. I like the look of the film but I'm a bit disappointed by the pictures somehow, although some of them are okay-ish. next time i'll try with a 50mm lens and push it to 800iso.

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 20:34:50 No.4121624 Report

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>>4121623

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 20:36:07 No.4121626 Report

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>>4121624

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Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 20:37:08 No.4121627 Report

Quoted By: >>4121687

>>4121626

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 20:51:09 No.4121636 Report

Quoted By:

>>4121548
>>4121504
>>4121503
What about the 500 si? I just picked one up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 22:18:55 No.4121679 Report

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>>4121460
i mean, with the right subjects like here it's kinda tight tho
gimmicky and cliche of course, but still

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 22:20:55 No.4121681 Report

Quoted By: >>4121737

>>4121473
thoughts on the Bessa vs the CLE?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 22:27:53 No.4121684 Report

Quoted By: >>4121688 >>4121737 >>4121965 >>4121967

If my chemicals change color that means that they are exahusted, right? Developing a roll of Foma made everything change color.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 22:33:22 No.4121686 Report

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>>4121486
>recommending Kiev for a starter camera
it's not 2015 prices anymore for entry level and gambling $60s on electronic slr is riskier imo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 22:35:15 No.4121687 Report

Quoted By: >>4121704

>>4121623
>>4121624
>>4121626
>>4121627
>I'm a bit disappointed by the pictures
get better scans, these look cheap af

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 22:38:25 No.4121688 Report

Quoted By: >>4121759

>>4121684
I develop foma films in foma devs and my developer is deep dark green colour at like 13 rolls done in it. I think it's good for one more load before it's exhausted (manual says something about it lasting anywhere between 12 to 15 rolls). There is no visible difference between how the 1st and last rolls look like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Jan 2023 23:53:10 No.4121704 Report

Quoted By: >>4121714

>>4121687
Yeah I know the scanner is an old piece of shit, but it's just a working scan, a contact sheet if you will. I am currently practicing my dark room printing which is my end goal.
I am a bit disappointed in the pictures themselves, not the scan, which was admittedly sloppier than usual.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2023 00:13:43 No.4121714 Report

Quoted By: >>4121754

>>4121704
Out of curiosity, what scanner is it?

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Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2023 00:56:47 No.4121737 Report

Quoted By: >>4121759

>>4121681
CLE is fuckin' sick if you shoot 25/28/40 and like aperture priority. I've since sold the CLE as I have too many film RFs but have a feeling I'll regret it. My only complain was it isn't comfortable to carry around in the hand for a long time. Literally just a rectangle. Even my go-to wrist strap dangle carry would have my hand cramping after awhile.

Bessa, you gotta be more specific since there are so many different ones. Right now I'm down to just my R2 and R4M. I love Bessas. They have great meters, a robust shutter, and super big and bright viewfinders.

>>4121684
Not necessarily, especially if you're re-using developer. The dyes from films can change the colour of that stuff yet the chemicals are still fine.

I've been watching Paulie B's walkie talkie videos and got super inspired so I loaded up a roll and burned through it today. Pic related best of the day. Shot with my Bessa R2 and 50/2 summitar

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Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2023 00:57:49 No.4121739 Report

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Second fave of the day from a roll I had a few shots left on in my Klasse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2023 01:25:36 No.4121754 Report

Quoted By: >>4121755

>>4121714
Canon 4200F

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2023 01:32:33 No.4121755 Report

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>>4121754
Sorry, I'm rarted and forgot that EXIF data was a thing on /p/.

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Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2023 01:52:55 No.4121759 Report

Quoted By: >>4121774

>>4121688
>>4121737
yeah, had been reusing the developer. Developed some ilford, some trimax but the foma is the only one that has made change color.
Gonna try again with a test roll.

Anyway, some scans from that roll! Using an Agfa box for funsies.

Massive negatives, fun to use but man its a bitch to focus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2023 02:15:38 No.4121764 Report

Quoted By: >>4121765 >>4121780 >>4121792

Canon AE1 for $70 at a local pawn shop, worth snagging?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2023 02:16:49 No.4121765 Report

Quoted By: >>4121773

>>4121764
Depends on if it actually works or not. Could be totally bricked

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Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2023 02:25:13 No.4121771 Report

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I fuckin' love the lil klasse

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2023 02:28:00 No.4121773 Report

Quoted By: >>4121780 >>4121788

>>4121765
true. I've seen them all over Instagram, I'm curious if it's a good camera or just a way to get attention. I already have a Canon FTb QL so I don't NEED it..

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Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2023 02:28:04 No.4121774 Report

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>>4121759
gonna bring a tripod and a cable release next time, I think that is better suited for landscapes or slow speeds, since it needs at least 3 meters to properly focus.

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Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2023 02:29:41 No.4121775 Report

Quoted By: >>4121776

Turns out manual focus at a hc gig is hard... need to rescan these too, lab scans were ass

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Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2023 02:30:43 No.4121776 Report

Quoted By: >>4121777

>>4121775

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Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2023 02:31:56 No.4121777 Report

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>>4121776

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Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2023 02:33:07 No.4121778 Report

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>>4121777

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Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2023 02:34:44 No.4121779 Report

Quoted By: >>4121781

>>4121778

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2023 02:34:56 No.4121780 Report

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>>4121773
>>4121764
it's actually an AE-1 Program

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Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2023 02:37:15 No.4121781 Report

Quoted By:

>>4121779
Mosh shots are hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2023 02:46:23 No.4121788 Report

Quoted By:

>>4121773
My understanding is that the listing (on ebay, for example) must say "tested" to even consider it not junk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2023 02:53:42 No.4121792 Report

Quoted By:

>>4121764
If it turns out and clicks it's an easy $200 profit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2023 07:32:28 No.4121871 Report

Quoted By: >>4121936 >>4121962

Lab said families and zoomers dropping off holiday rolls has a 2.5 week lead time on dev and scan now. On one hand it's great film is still surging in popularity. On the other, I want my scans in a day or two not weeks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2023 07:34:20 No.4121874 Report

Quoted By:

>>4121623
>>4121624
>>4121624
>>4121624
>>4121626
Beautiful shots though. I agree the film itself let you down, the compositions are excellent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2023 11:59:31 No.4121936 Report

Quoted By: >>4121962

>>4121871
Is that what's causing lab times to be so whack?
The lab I use has similar times but for slide film, makes me wonder how many film photographers are in my area

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2023 13:24:21 No.4121953 Report

Quoted By: >>4122244

/fgt/s: When doing 4x6 prints do you prefer white borders or no border at all?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2023 13:57:09 No.4121962 Report

Quoted By:

>>4121936
>>4121871
My local film lab had tons and tons of customers negatives when I last went (early Dec last year) they literally ran out of storage space. My guess would be 300 ish and they only store them for one month before throwing them out. They normally have a 4-5 day turnaround on color and 8+ for bw scans. Would hate to see it now. I've got 11 rolls ready to be developed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2023 14:10:04 No.4121965 Report

Quoted By:

>>4121684
clear base films (including 120 Fomapan) usually include some kind of dye as an anti-halation measure

fe2fucker

fe2fucker Sun 08 Jan 2023 14:31:27 No.4121967 Report

Quoted By:

>>4121684
Foma makes the first bath green.
I always rinse ut before pouring in developer because i like seeing the emerald green water come out.

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Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2023 15:00:25 No.4121977 Report

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i have 10 rolls of fuckered tmax 400 that i dunno what to do with. on one hand its nice having some rolls i really dgaf about snapshitting and trying new things on. on the other hand it sucks that it has base layer fog and needs some serious contrast work in post.

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Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2023 16:12:20 No.4121993 Report

Quoted By:

>>4120430
>Unless of course you are hand loading. But why would you do that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2023 18:48:31 No.4122045 Report

Quoted By: >>4122055

If I used an adapter to shoot 35mm in a 220 back in a medium format camera in order to get the sprocket effect, how do I ask the lab to develop and scan it? Do I ask for a 35mm scan, or would that mean they cut off the sprockets? Or do I ask for a 220 scan, but specifically mention it's a 35mm roll?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2023 19:16:15 No.4122054 Report

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>>4118175
Can someone explain to me why the lens on the Yashica C I bought is at least or even sharper than my equivalent Mamiya in the center? It's a 60 year old camera for gods sake, with a very simple three element lens design too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2023 19:18:58 No.4122055 Report

Quoted By: >>4122246

>>4122045
You have to use a flatbed scanner, I don’t think labs have a template to run the toll that way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2023 23:33:24 No.4122168 Report

Quoted By: >>4122177

where do people buy there film online these days? I used to buy from b&h but there stock and prices aren't great

i live in canada if thats relevant

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Anonymous Sun 08 Jan 2023 23:49:42 No.4122177 Report

Quoted By: >>4122588

>>4122168
>i live in canada if thats relevant

downtown camera in toronto, especially if you shoot kodak. join their am/fm membership for $15/yr and you get 25% off all kodak film.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2023 02:14:07 No.4122244 Report

Quoted By:

>>4121953
I usually include borders on anything less than 8X10, but it depends on the image.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2023 02:20:58 No.4122246 Report

Quoted By:

>>4122055
I guess I'll just give em a call to ask first before I give up the option.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2023 15:51:43 No.4122408 Report

Quoted By: >>4122413 >>4122415 >>4122422 >>4122436 >>4122542

Selfdev bros. How do you get rid of water stains? Its the only thing that I can't seem to get right.
I left the negatives to hang for hours but still getting those.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2023 16:17:36 No.4122413 Report

Quoted By: >>4122538

>>4122408
are you using photoflo or something similar? how do you squeegee your film?

Nicholas

Nicholas Mon 09 Jan 2023 16:19:50 No.4122415 Report

Quoted By: >>4122538

>>4122408
I put a folded piece of toilet paper on my finger and drag the uncoated side across it, this is maybe 90% effective but good enough for me
Gelatin side usually does not stain but if your water is hard it could happen, in that case you should do final rinse with distilled water

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2023 17:00:16 No.4122422 Report

Quoted By: >>4122538

>>4122408
dishwasher rinse aid

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2023 18:26:13 No.4122436 Report

Quoted By: >>4122534 >>4122538

>>4122408
photoflo its dirt cheap and will last you until you die

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Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2023 20:19:23 No.4122488 Report

Quoted By: >>4122499 >>4122538 >>4122597

For editing purposes, do most of you use LR, or anyone use the free alternatives like DarkTable or RawTherapee? How do you like their workflow compared to the others?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2023 20:35:01 No.4122499 Report

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>>4122488
I use RawTherapee and gimp. Never used anything else, it works just fine for me.
Don't wanna pay for adobe shit or any other, although I assume the user exeperience is smoother and easier.

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Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2023 22:39:02 No.4122534 Report

Quoted By: >>4122535

>>4122436
photoflo doesn't expire?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2023 22:40:08 No.4122535 Report

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>>4122534
Pic unrelated lol

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Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2023 22:47:55 No.4122538 Report

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>>4122413
>>4122415
>>4122436
nope, maybe I should use photoflo. Not squeegee also, just let them dry. If I use photoflo can I keep using tap water? or do I need to use distilled water anyway? Pretty sure that the water is hard where I live

Thanks bros, have a photo of a squirrel that really liked my Praktica.
>>4122422
Legit or would I get slippery film?
>>4122488
LR and Rawtherapee on the loonix machine

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2023 22:58:43 No.4122542 Report

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>>4122408
I always do one final wash with distilled water (and also a few drops of phtoflo but that's much less important). Otherwise the tap water where I live is too hard and it will always leave stains.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jan 2023 23:14:28 No.4122547 Report

Quoted By:

took some pictures of the native girls, but they weren't developed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2023 01:46:46 No.4122588 Report

Quoted By: >>4122590

>>4122177
thanks, just made an order. bummer about the limits on kodak/fuji colour, but smart system to keep it in stock.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2023 01:47:21 No.4122589 Report

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motion of the streets, do you feel it?

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Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2023 01:49:15 No.4122590 Report

Quoted By: >>4122783

>>4122588
Nice man, I'm about to stock up on some XX from them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2023 01:54:13 No.4122594 Report

Quoted By:

>>4119391
I would think it's a developing problem on your end.

>>4119469
You can use a flatbed but honestly it's so tiring to use that I don't know if I'd recommend it anymore.

>>4119798
Probably. I can't call someone a fag there though.

>>4120409
Nice shot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2023 01:55:14 No.4122595 Report

Quoted By: >>4122596

>>4118175
>had another nightmare about accidentally exposing my film to daylight

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2023 01:59:16 No.4122596 Report

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>>4122595
>got new camera
>didn't realized that it has film inside
>open it in broad daylight
>seems like they already used a good chunk
>just rip it out and use it as a yo-yo
Cathartic

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2023 02:04:13 No.4122597 Report

Quoted By:

>>4121026
Wow. I like it a lot. I always thought the Amber film would be crappy but it looks fine. I am aware that it's just respooled Vision3 but I figured they might be prone to really bad QC.

>>4121145
I would commit more atrocities than vlad the impaler for $2.89 gas

>>4122488
I use DarkTable and it works but it's kind of glitchy and shitty at times. I definitely will never pay for adobe

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2023 02:37:07 No.4122605 Report

Quoted By: >>4122622 >>4122886

I got film back from the lab but there's a streak down the whole thing. I think I can fix it with heal in gimp but fuck me what a pain in the ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2023 03:17:33 No.4122622 Report

Quoted By: >>4122626

>>4122605
I think they might be water related. How the hell do I get rid of this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2023 03:29:15 No.4122626 Report

Quoted By:

>>4122622
Wash it again but with distilled water. Just read the thread people were already talking about water stains.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2023 06:11:37 No.4122668 Report

Quoted By: >>4122766

for those that use water as a stop bath, what's your method? does it change for each type film/iso?
I'm seeing articles that say just run it under a tap for 5 minutes while others say 2x 1 min agitations with fresh water each agitation works as well.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2023 11:23:35 No.4122766 Report

Quoted By: >>4122844

>>4122668
>pour out my developer
>open the tap on blast
>fill tank with water
>shake it a little
>dump it out
>repeat 4 to 6 times
if you're not using a very very fast developer; less than four minutes of developement time, you dont need a stop bath at all. I've never used one and never had any problems, though I've only developped maybe 30 rolls of film.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2023 12:44:05 No.4122783 Report

Quoted By:

>>4122590
neat, i buy mine from a portugese guy for €7.3 per 36 exposure roll

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2023 13:56:08 No.4122795 Report

Quoted By:

ive got a bunch of exposed film (just the cannisters) sitting inside one of those chinese takeout plastic containers in the fridge.
will the container be enough to protect against moisture?
if i want to take out and develop only some of the rolls, how do i do this and not introduce condensation? should i put another empty container in the fridge and let the air in it turn cold, then transfer some rolls into it, then wait a bit and take it out?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2023 16:16:43 No.4122844 Report

Quoted By: >>4122898

>>4122766
I've got a bottle of R-09 and I've never seen it used on a development time less than ~6/7 minutes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2023 17:33:56 No.4122864 Report

Quoted By: >>4122883

>>4118175
ill be moving over to a nikon system soon
is a nikon f4 a good starting pont with film ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2023 18:54:13 No.4122883 Report

Quoted By: >>4122979

>>4122864
the f4 is an heavy beast, if it's your first time using that i'd rather suggest using a f801 or a f90 since it's a quarter of the price for almost the same usage.
If you want to use a flagship model i'd recon either the f3 if you don't care about AF or the F5, it's an unbeatable beast (except for the F6 but those are almost digital-FF-price-tier)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2023 18:55:31 No.4122886 Report

Quoted By:

>>4122605
wash it with adoflo it's magic

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2023 20:02:50 No.4122898 Report

Quoted By:

>>4122844
you will be absolutely fine

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2023 20:35:56 No.4122926 Report

Quoted By: >>4122942

I am trying to go full DIY with my selfdev (making pararodinal and using water as a stop bath) but what can I use as a fixer?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2023 21:49:53 No.4122942 Report

Quoted By: >>4122951 >>4123346

>>4122926
sodium thiosulphate (recommended)
KCN (poisonous)
Table salt (very slow)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2023 22:21:38 No.4122951 Report

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>>4122942
ammonium thiosulfate is best if you can get it, works great with tabular grain films

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Jan 2023 23:56:22 No.4122978 Report

Quoted By: >>4123108 >>4123304 >>4123348

local camera shop charges $1.50/negative scanned on an Epson V600. buying the scanner myself comes out to 5.5 rolls of film scanned by them.....

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2023 00:01:30 No.4122979 Report

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>>4122883
Thank you for your help, I was just considering somthing similar to the d3s I wanted to get soon and it looked like the best fit

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Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2023 03:02:26 No.4123063 Report

Quoted By: >>4123072

>>4121473
My parents have an old-ass Canon EOS T3 I can use to start scanning, but it's only 12MP. Is that enough for decent scanning if I get the right macro lens, or should I go for a different approach altogether?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2023 03:58:23 No.4123072 Report

Quoted By: >>4123074 >>4123077

>>4123063
>Is that enough for decent scanning if I get the right macro lens
yes, it'll be equivalent to what most labs offer as their cheap "good" scan but give you more control. definitely keep an eye on marketplace for any 6D or the nikons people like to scan with though. they're going cheap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2023 04:13:40 No.4123074 Report

Quoted By: >>4123079

>>4123072
Thanks, you're right, the 6D is 20MP and only a few hundred. In terms of macro lens, I guess I would look for ones that fit the specific DSLR I'm using, or are there particularly good ones that can be fit on with an adapter or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2023 04:39:47 No.4123077 Report

Quoted By: >>4123079

>>4123072
is a 40mm macro good for dslr scanning?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2023 04:41:39 No.4123079 Report

Quoted By: >>4123082

>>4123074
sigma 105 macro
>>4123077
you might get flare and reflection weirdness having the camera that close to the negative, the further away the better is what i've always.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2023 05:02:11 No.4123082 Report

Quoted By: >>4123086 >>4123166 >>4123328

>>4123079
>the further away the better is what i've always.

good point, I'm looking at macro zooms on keh for my nikon D5100, there's a 35-135mm that looks alright

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2023 05:29:54 No.4123086 Report

Quoted By: >>4123094

>>4123082
fuck me, should the macro be 1:1 too? I was hoping to keep this to $50-$80 bucks...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2023 05:48:12 No.4123094 Report

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>>4123086
>should the macro be 1:1 too?
yes, but you can find used 105 sigmas for like $80-$120 pretty frequently. there's also a 90s canon 100mm that's you can probably find for like $30-$60.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2023 08:42:13 No.4123108 Report

Quoted By: >>4123227

>>4122978
Please tell me that's large format prices
Or that it's 120 and in AUD.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2023 09:53:08 No.4123125 Report

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>>4121460
>>4121461
>>4121461
Wtf is this gay shit?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2023 12:29:02 No.4123163 Report

Quoted By: >>4123386

Bought an Instax Square back for the RB this past week. It’s been a ton of fun just fucking around with it.

(1/3)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2023 12:30:14 No.4123165 Report

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(2/3)

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Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2023 12:30:42 No.4123166 Report

Quoted By: >>4123387

>>4123082
>for my nikon

Just get a Nikon 55 or 60mm macro and a Nikon es-2 for scanning 35mm. Thank me later.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2023 12:31:38 No.4123167 Report

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(3/3)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2023 15:46:18 No.4123227 Report

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>>4123108
35mm negatives for ~5Mb files in God's great United States dollaridoos

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2023 20:57:51 No.4123304 Report

Quoted By: >>4123306 >>4123328

>>4122978
Paying other people for dev and scanning is absolute fucking scam if you shoot more than a few rolls a year

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2023 21:05:30 No.4123306 Report

Quoted By: >>4123312 >>4124754

>>4123304
this desu.
I did some quick numbers and I could buy a fucking noritsu with the money that I need to pay a local lab to do it.

Still I keep using them for color dev since fuck that shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2023 21:29:18 No.4123312 Report

Quoted By: >>4123347

>>4123306
you don't even need a noritsu, honestly a plustek works well enough. But yeah oclor is annoying to do at home. I've had mixed results with CS2 kits from cinestill but I don't bother with C41 stuff. Trying to eyeball the temperature is annoying.
And doing black and white is idiot proof for the most part. I don't get why people go through the effort and expense of shooting film only to treat it like a digital camera.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2023 21:58:00 No.4123328 Report

Quoted By: >>4123347

>>4123304
that's why I'm >>4123082 looking into DSLR scanning.

I'm developing a few rolls using the ilford/Paterson dev kit for the first time this weekend . I have full bottles of other chems once I use the little ilford packets. I'm excited.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2023 22:37:58 No.4123346 Report

Quoted By: >>4123354

>>4122942
>Table salt (very slow)
How slow is very slow?

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Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2023 22:41:11 No.4123347 Report

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>>4123312
I know, that is what makes it even more worse. I have an old minolta digimage II that I got from the trash with a stuck mechanism, if I can get someone to look into I am gonna use it. So far had been using a flatbed scanner and its not that bad but heh.
>>4123328
Godspeed my man, self dev is really fun. Just practice with your reels before doing it in the darkness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2023 22:46:24 No.4123348 Report

Quoted By: >>4123353

>>4122978
wait 1.50 per frame? Jesus christ man

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2023 23:01:45 No.4123353 Report

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>>4123348
yea, crazy. even the guy running the shop explaining this was like - you should have the frames you want to get scanned picked out before dropping off your negatives...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Jan 2023 23:06:45 No.4123354 Report

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>>4123346
a week

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2023 01:21:59 No.4123386 Report

Quoted By: >>4123685

>>4123163
It's the binstax, isn't it? I heard the thing is 500 USD, is that true? Kinda steep if you ask me

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2023 01:23:21 No.4123387 Report

Quoted By: >>4123389

>>4123166
>Nikon es-2
Does it exclusively work with Nikon lenses? Are there equivalent kits for other brands too?

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Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2023 01:43:04 No.4123389 Report

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>>4123387
It just has a 52mm filter thread. I use one with my Canon FD 50mm macro

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2023 05:34:08 No.4123446 Report

Quoted By: >>4123449 >>4123464 >>4123622

>develop roll
>not a single good frame
I cant keep doing this bros

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Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2023 05:36:27 No.4123449 Report

Quoted By: >>4123452 >>4123570

>>4123446
at least you still shoot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2023 05:49:24 No.4123452 Report

Quoted By: >>4123462

>>4123449
weekend is coming up, go for a drive and take your camera

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Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2023 06:04:51 No.4123456 Report

Quoted By: >>4123469 >>4123623 >>4124111

Just discovered the Contax T2 and T3 exist. 1500-2000USD for a fucking point and shoot? What the actual fuck?

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Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2023 06:36:55 No.4123462 Report

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>>4123452
i'll try it again

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2023 06:46:39 No.4123464 Report

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>>4123446
my first thoughts when looking at my scans are always >these are so shit
but then I spend a little time with them and they slowly grow on me, the ones I really like I copy to a favorites file and I'll get them printed and they look even better and it feels great to show off and hold actual photos, especially ones I like

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2023 07:09:43 No.4123469 Report

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>>4123456
Reminds me of how I sprung $30 worth of change in a Ziploc on someone today.
>do you take change?
>yes
>okay

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Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2023 11:14:34 No.4123508 Report

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Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2023 11:23:51 No.4123509 Report

Quoted By: >>4123510

Is this picture gay

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2023 11:38:30 No.4123510 Report

Quoted By: >>4123512

>>4123509
yes, and you are a faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2023 11:57:51 No.4123512 Report

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>>4123510
That’s pretty upsetting news

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2023 15:59:18 No.4123570 Report

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>>4123449
>at least you still shoot
Saddest cope ever lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2023 19:12:23 No.4123621 Report

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for fixing do you typically do a clearing up test to set your fixing time for each roll or just fix for X minutes regardless?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2023 19:18:57 No.4123622 Report

Quoted By: >>4123624

>>4123446
Just wait until you get to large format and you know how I feel.
>pay through the ass for 4x5 slides and processing
>all of them are garbage
>go on a spiral and be unable to shoot for weeks

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2023 19:22:38 No.4123623 Report

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>>4123456
I had a Contax T2 I got for free, back when they were only going for $400 because faggots on youtube weren't hyping them to high heaven. They are absolutely not worth $400 let alone the current ridiculous prices.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2023 19:22:40 No.4123624 Report

Quoted By: >>4123626

>>4123622
I really want to get a 4x5 camera... Probably a Crown Graphic, but I also know this is what will happen to me. But I want it so bad...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2023 19:29:02 No.4123626 Report

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>>4123624
Well as long as you stick with B&W it's not so bad because the disappointment doesn't come with such a big price tag due to how cheap Fomapan is. But occasionally you get the temptation to try color and that's where souls are crushed.

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Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2023 19:50:25 No.4123634 Report

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>new tripod arrives tomorrow
>have to go back to shooting sheet again
I-it was nice 35mm snapshitting while it lasted bros.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2023 20:02:33 No.4123640 Report

Quoted By:

>>4123639

>>4123639

>>4123639

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Jan 2023 22:27:13 No.4123685 Report

Quoted By:

>>4123386
Frankinstax actually! He builds them off the SQ1 chassis. I believe I paid around $350 for the unit and it only took a couple days for it to get here from Colorado.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Jan 2023 21:08:43 No.4124111 Report

Quoted By:

>>4123456
Gearfags are genuinely fucking braindead apes who are slaves to their basest instincts. There is no higher thought going on

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2023 06:37:34 No.4124754 Report

Quoted By:

>>4123306
If you're shooting so much you can buy a Noritsu then I figure you could also just buy a sous vide to maintain temps and invest in a nice setup with a solid scanner

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