/p/ - Photography » Thread #4151735

[49 / 7 / 32]

240KiB, 1024x647, Visible-spectrum-chart-1024x647.png

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2023 09:17:39 No.4151735 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>4151738 >>4151769 >>4151777 >>4151856 >>4151858 >>4151997 >>4152329 >>4152869 >>4153041 >>4155773

Humans can see .0035% of the electromagnetic spectrum.
Why the fuck in the year 2023 can I not buy cameras that can see into the rest of it?
I want a camera that can see radio waves, gamma rays, xrays etc.
How do I acheive this?
I feel like i am missing out of what 99.9965 of the world looks like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2023 09:26:25 No.4151738 Report

Quoted By: >>4151740

>>4151735
>I want a camera that can see radio waves, gamma rays, xrays etc.
They already can. But you can't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2023 09:33:35 No.4151740 Report

Quoted By: >>4151746 >>4151850

>>4151738

thats ok, ill take a conversion into the visable spectrum, I just want to see how all those other wavelengths look.
like how does the world around me look in just gamma rays? or just in xrays?
A black and white conversion of that is fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2023 09:48:44 No.4151746 Report

Quoted By:

>>4151740
>like how does the world around me look in just gamma rays? or just in xrays?
dark

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2023 10:00:03 No.4151750 Report

Quoted By: >>4151857 >>4152334

After doing more research we are clearly missing out on existing colours being stuck in our narrow band.

Image seeing a bright antenna pumping out a huge glow of radio waves that then washes over everything creating strange light and shadows, it would interact differently with objects to how light does. It sounds pretty cool to see.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2023 10:40:54 No.4151769 Report

Quoted By:

>>4151735
of course you can, it's just expensive and might need some DIY rigging if sensor is a spot measurement device and not a full array of them. you can start with removing infrared filter in your camera, or by buying thermal camera

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 1eb176d1a9fa3441a38e33bdba309f9c.jpg, 57KiB, 645x773

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2023 10:58:54 No.4151777 Report

Quoted By: >>4152336 >>4152341 >>4153044

>>4151735
>imagine being trapped repetitively in a human meatsuit and forced only to see a limited fraction of the spectrum
such is Samsara life bros

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2023 11:38:21 No.4151787 Report

Quoted By:

To completely experience the light spectrum, there is first another spectrum you must fully embrace within yourself...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2023 16:27:57 No.4151850 Report

Quoted By:

>>4151740
>x-rays
Film can already "see" some of these. Digital cameras, with relatively inexpensive mods, can cover UVB to deep infrared. Essentially anything higher energy than visible light will show up on a modified digital camera. It's more a question of whether you get an intelligible image. There are lots of devices that can see microwaves, just not consumer cameras.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2023 16:40:23 No.4151853 Report

Quoted By: >>4151883

I think millimeter wave street photography is where it's at.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2023 16:55:20 No.4151856 Report

Quoted By: >>4151997

>>4151735
>Why the fuck in the year 2023 can I not buy cameras that can see into the rest of it?
are you telling me you are not able to find infrared cameras and thermal cameras online? LOL

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2023 16:55:31 No.4151857 Report

Quoted By:

>>4151750
>Image seeing a bright antenna pumping out a huge glow of radio waves that then washes over everything creating strange light and shadows
you clearly don't understand how electromagnetic waves work

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2023 16:55:33 No.4151858 Report

Quoted By: >>4151905

>>4151735
full spectrum conversion will let you see some IR and UV, but sensor still doesn't see all of the light
super low frequency stuff like radio will be especially difficult to see because there is a relationship between wavelength and size of detector, you need a huge antenna, an extremely small photosite won't do

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2023 17:44:57 No.4151883 Report

Quoted By:

>>4151853
That'd be equivalent to pointing a regular camera towards a bunch of lightbulbs in the fog

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2023 18:49:47 No.4151905 Report

Quoted By:

>>4151858
this, basically with low energy you just feel the photonic flow instead of harvesting the photons in a well

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2023 19:35:17 No.4151919 Report

Quoted By:

Kolari Vision will get you UV + IR. UV itself is pretty wild.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2023 20:42:10 No.4151970 Report

Quoted By: >>4151974 >>4151997 >>4152014 >>4152019

God bless the American education system.

Hey dummy, you know how all of those radio wavelengths are orders of magnitude larger than visible light? That is their smallest possible resolution. That's why radio passes right through your walls. They're essentially invisible. Radio would not give you the kind of detail you're envisioning.

Also, you can already detect radio. It's called... a radio. There is no visible component of radio.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2023 20:50:11 No.4151974 Report

Quoted By: >>4151989

>>4151970
>There is no visible component of radio.
TV?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2023 21:51:47 No.4151989 Report

Quoted By: >>4151997

>>4151974

Fuck imagine seeing tv shows flying through the air, would be a cool photo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2023 22:22:32 No.4151997 Report

Quoted By: >>4152861

>>4151735
you can do a full-spectrum mod of your camera pretty easily, and put a ~750-900nm highpass filter over the lens to image infrared. CMOS sensors are actually really sensitive to infrared light so you can easily image those spectra with a modified consoomer dSLR. same for UV, except they're a little less sensitive and you obviously need a ~450nm lowpass filter instead.

for the extreme ends of the electromagnetic spectrum (xrays, radio) you need more specialized equipment designed to record those wavelengths. remember a camera is simply a sensor that maps electromagnetic disturbances to pixels in a bitmap.

>>4151856
every camera with a CMOS is just a neutered infrared imager. they put ~650nm lowpass filters in front of the sensors of consumer dSLR's so normies don't freak out if their pictures are tinted red.

>>4151970
there's software and hardware that renders the relative luminosity into a visual image. all a radio does is pick up AM/FM disturbances and demodulates it into sound. there's no reason the same sensor (in this case, a radio antenna) couldn't demodulate a frequency into light.

>>4151989
people send pictures over shortwave radio all the time. it's just a signal that you can decode into any medium you want depending on your level of autism.

cinefag !CiNE/YT/e6

cinefag !CiNE/YT/e6 Wed 08 Mar 2023 22:47:04 No.4152014 Report

Quoted By:

>>4151970
>what are radiotelescopes
moopcosisters... we got too cocky

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Mar 2023 22:55:56 No.4152019 Report

Quoted By:

>>4151970
We make radio images already, on space telescopes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2023 17:05:27 No.4152318 Report

Quoted By: >>4152325

https://tenor.com/fi/search/thermal-vision-fart-gifs

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO ryoshi-ryoshi-vision.gif, 640KiB, 220x220

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2023 17:12:21 No.4152325 Report

Quoted By:

>>4152318
>this right in the middle of it all
Sums it up

God help us if snakes with their heat vision are actually sentient. They've been laughing at us. Thank fuck the IR GFX100s is military/professional use only. This 100% explains why fuji refuses to sell it to plebs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2023 17:17:38 No.4152329 Report

Quoted By:

>>4151735
because you could photograph what moves beyond our visible spectrum..i.e. UFO's, Aliens and other stuff. THEY don't want you to see what's really going on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2023 17:27:12 No.4152334 Report

Quoted By: >>4152772

>>4151750
>Image seeing a bright antenna pumping out a huge glow of radio waves that then washes over everything creating strange light and shadows
People would wake up to the reality of 5G.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2023 17:28:26 No.4152336 Report

Quoted By:

>>4151777
Blessed digits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Mar 2023 17:33:01 No.4152341 Report

Quoted By: >>4152563 >>4152605

>>4151777
>Samsara
Overrated movie, had no fucking plot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 00:18:29 No.4152561 Report

Quoted By:

You'd do better by leaning how to create frequency spectrums instead of photographing radio waves, anon.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO smokes.jpg, 2MiB, 6016x4016

Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 00:21:10 No.4152563 Report

Quoted By:

>>4152341
kek
>picrel, me sleeping comfortably, being photographed by alsome

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 01:35:55 No.4152605 Report

Quoted By:

>>4152341
fr fr they should've thrown in an iron man battle or quip or two

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 14:28:00 No.4152772 Report

Quoted By:

>>4152334
That it gets cucked real hard by air?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 19:18:52 No.4152861 Report

Quoted By: >>4152875

>>4151997
>~750-900nm highpass filter over the lens to image infrared
>same for UV, except they're a little less sensitive and you obviously need a ~450nm lowpass filter instead
It's called longpass and shortpass. 'high' and 'low' refer to frequency and would block the opposite of the spectrum sides that you mean

Art_repro_fag22

Art_repro_fag22 Fri 10 Mar 2023 19:33:50 No.4152869 Report

Quoted By: >>4152880

>>4151735
Anything higher energy than UV-A and UV-B you don't want to be around for extended periods of time. Anything longer than IR can't really be imaged by "normal" cameras. You need fancy dish based antennas to do that.
UV is hard to image, bc glass absorbs it, so you need super expensive quartz lenses, but its doable, just very expensive. UV imaging is used all the time forensics.
IR is also doable, especially with film or a converted sensor. All digital sensors have a IR blocking filter bc it fucks with color reproduction, but can be removed for less than 1k. Buying IR film and IR filter would be cheaper in the short run.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 19:46:47 No.4152875 Report

Quoted By:

>>4152861
naturally, it would be opposite for electronics and optics. you know what i mean though, shine a 660/740nm light array at some leaves or blood, and capture everything above 900nm or so

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 1668679916394.jpg, 10KiB, 341x223

Anonymous Fri 10 Mar 2023 19:55:01 No.4152880 Report

Quoted By: >>4153003 >>4156054

>>4152869
>you need super expensive quartz lenses
oh fugg i totally forgot about this. doesn't seem to be a HUGE issue with a single piece of glass in the UV-A/B range, but for microscopy, i might be a bit fugged. lots of glass throughout the optical path

re: camera modding, it's pretty easy to do yourself, just invest in a real filter to replace the stock one over the CMOS:
https://www.astronomik.com/de/mc-glass-for-dslr-astromodification/mc-glass-for-dslr-astromodification/astronomik-mc-klarglas-for-canon-eos-1100d-1200d.html

lifepixel has guides for many cameras:
https://www.lifepixel.com/tutorials/infrared-diy-tutorials

just don't forget to use a hair dryer or something to loosen any adhesive on the stock filter, and keep some air source to blow any dust off the naked sensor. also, i find it helpful to handle the sensor assembly with gloves

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 00:41:41 No.4153003 Report

Quoted By: >>4153013

>>4152880
>invest in a real filter to replace the stock one over the CMOS:
Why? To fix focus or to protect it or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 01:03:32 No.4153013 Report

Quoted By:

>>4153003
both. i suppose you could leave it naked, but it's such a sensitive component that i personally wouldn't want to do that. either way, modding a camera is usually no big deal

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 03:13:44 No.4153041 Report

Quoted By:

>>4151735
there is no visual representation of what you think you want here

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 03:16:03 No.4153044 Report

Quoted By:

>>4151777
>implying you get to keep your human meatsuit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2023 09:34:13 No.4155773 Report

Quoted By: >>4155774 >>4155778

>>4151735
>Why the fuck in the year 2023 can I not buy cameras that can see into the rest of it?
Because of retards and society.
A few decades ago there was a camcorder with a dedicated infrared or UV mode. Just recently Huawei released a phone with something similar. Let you see through plastics and see circuitry inside remotes, and through some clothes.

People bitched about "muh privacy" and the tech is no longer available to the public. No laws were made just public pressure and companies cucking out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2023 09:36:23 No.4155774 Report

Quoted By:

>>4155773
my mistake
it was oppo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOsylGr2_h4&t=160s

but I think Huawei might have bad one too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2023 10:03:48 No.4155778 Report

Quoted By: >>4155784 >>4156182

>>4155773

how do i modify my dslr to do this?
I knew there would be good tech getting banned from consumers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2023 10:18:34 No.4155784 Report

Quoted By:

>>4155778
First you'll need to find out if your sensor is sensitive to those frequencies when naked, if so, you continue by removing your sensor filter, if you want to go the extra step of protecting the sensor, replace it with a quartz piece or some other clear material that doesn't absorb those wavelengths, then you'll need an objective made with quartz lenses, otherwise the lens is going to absorb the UV

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO aweaeswd.jpg, 893KiB, 1109x1387

Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2023 22:30:24 No.4156054 Report

Quoted By:

>>4152880
What you're describing is exactly why I got slightly brighter results when using a simple two-element lens ripped from a Polaroid Colorpack II. Always wanted to try a plastic lens. picrel

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Mar 2023 00:54:08 No.4156112 Report

Quoted By:

For anyone wondering, near-IR film can still be bought widely, Rollei Retro 400S is sold in most film shops in both 135 and 120. Its around ISO 20 with a 720nm filter factored in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Mar 2023 08:02:21 No.4156182 Report

Quoted By: >>4156244 >>4156247

>>4155778
you can achieve similar results just with an IR filter, long exposure and post-processing
>>4155769

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO IMG_1330.jpg, 531KiB, 1824x1368

Anonymous Sat 18 Mar 2023 14:01:48 No.4156244 Report

Quoted By:

>>4156182
You can but even a shitty chepest possible P&S modded will give good results compared to an unmodded camera with a _lot_ more convenience.
Modding Powershot A800: disassemble until you can remove the tiny thin filter and toss it or replace with same size piece of ir pass gel filter then reassemble the camera. Cameras with thick ir cut filter may need same thickness replacement filter of clear glass.
Scaled to 50%, no other edits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Mar 2023 14:27:56 No.4156247 Report

Quoted By:

>>4156182
That's not IR, that's the red channel extract from RGB in a RAW.

Capcode	All Only User Posts Only Verified Posts Only Moderator Posts Only Manager Posts Only Admin Posts Only Developer Posts Only Founder Posts
Show Posts	All Only With Images Only Without Images Only Spoiler Images Only Non-Spoiler Images
Deleted Posts	All Only Deleted Posts Only Non-Deleted Posts
Ghost Posts	All Only Ghost Posts Only Non-Ghost Posts
Post Type	All Only Sticky Threads Only Opening Posts Only Reply Posts
Results	All Grouped By Threads
Order	Latest Posts First Oldest Posts First

On these archives

Your latest searches