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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2023 23:16:02 No.4183049 View View Reply Original Report

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How do I actually learn photography?
I don't mean the bare nuts & bolts of "how do i camera", I mean the more artistic aspects of the craft.
How do I judge composure? How do I pick subjects? How can articulate the obvious difference between my crappy snapshit and actually good photos you find on flickr?

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cinefag !CiNE/YT/e6 Fri 26 May 2023 23:20:17 No.4183050 Report

Quoted By: >>4183052 >>4185302

>>4183049
>actually good photos
>on flickr

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2023 23:22:15 No.4183052 Report

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>>4183050

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Anonymous Fri 26 May 2023 23:36:46 No.4183061 Report

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>>4183049
Either take a class or just shoot a fuckton and get feedback. Digital means that you can make as many mistakes as possible as fast as possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 May 2023 23:46:28 No.4183066 Report

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>>4183049
you’ll figure it out after you take 10000 photos

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 May 2023 02:28:43 No.4184642 Report

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practice visualisation
visualise what the photo you're about to take will look like. maybe hold the camera up to your eye in the viewfinder and think if this will be a decent shot or not.
go on instagram and find photographers you like and see what it is about their photos that makes you like them, note it down on a piece of paper and try to find these elements when you go about taking your own photos
it's simple. simple but difficult. but you'll get the hang of it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 May 2023 02:30:35 No.4184644 Report

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>>4183049
photo books and find photographers that have a style/take photos of things you like. thats it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 May 2023 02:51:38 No.4184650 Report

Quoted By: >>4185282

>>4183049
Anon check out the book "The Photographer's Eye" by Michael Freeman. This book is an entire college course in one and so full of good information you'll read it multiple times. Teaches you about framing, leading lines, repetition and placement, and many other aspects of gestalt that will improve your understanding of aesthetics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 May 2023 02:52:57 No.4184653 Report

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>>4183049
Read wikipedia articles on artistic composition, play around with aperture and focus until you get it, now start taking pictures of chairs, cars, lamp posts, and pedestrians as long as it's not high noon, especially if there's a bit of rain or fog out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 May 2023 04:53:01 No.4184682 Report

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>>4183049
just go out and take 10,000 photos.
after the first 1000 you'll start to realise you like some and hate others.
you can start to engage your brain and ask: why
once you know why, you start to establish intent and action

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EVF blackout !!5Dz+C7v45HK Wed 31 May 2023 04:58:47 No.4184686 Report

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>>4184653
>start taking pictures of chairs, cars, lamp posts, and pedestrians
sounds like you want anon's photography to be worthless shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 May 2023 05:00:32 No.4184688 Report

Quoted By: >>4184691 >>4184702

>>4184686
Even that would be better than yours

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 May 2023 05:04:44 No.4184691 Report

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>>4184688
The joke was that is literally his

Looks like push finally came to shove and he's all out of reach

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EVF blackout !!5Dz+C7v45HK Wed 31 May 2023 05:33:21 No.4184702 Report

Quoted By: >>4184704 >>4184708

>>4184688
seething mirrorlesscuck lol
>>4184691
cope
of the few pictures I've taken and posted here my favorites are precisely the ones the haters always forget about, the vegetable kingdom ones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 May 2023 05:35:25 No.4184704 Report

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>>4184702
Oh really? Maybe you should post them.

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EVF blackout !!5Dz+C7v45HK Wed 31 May 2023 05:36:48 No.4184706 Report

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>>4184704
Already did, some of them with multiple edits. The faggot who made my "portfolio" collage even missed the crane shot which had beautiful clouds lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 May 2023 05:46:28 No.4184708 Report

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>>4184702
I don't own a mirrorless. You're just a gay gearfag. Get a life you're on this website at literally all hours

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 May 2023 06:52:58 No.4184748 Report

Quoted By: >>4186503

why are all tripfags such insufferable nophoto shitters?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 May 2023 08:28:02 No.4184766 Report

Quoted By: >>4184813 >>4185208

Unitonically study thots/influencers They shoot in complex locations and all sorts of light, they have also min maxed out all the important rules that you can apply quickly anywhere.
Also they are min maxed to what is currently popular.
Study what goes in the frame for their hotel or pool photo, study exactly where everything in the photos intersect with other stuff and them.
They all use the same simple rules and it’s really easy to figure out.
Also study camera framing and where the frame cuts things and how much space from person to edge of frame.
You can learn the majority of stuff every photog should know from that.
Then just pick one specific photog from your chosen genre and then all you have to figure is what extra rules they apply on the thots system.

Remember a 20 year old girl with a cellphone figured all of this out easily. If you can’t do better than them then that’s exactly where you need to start. You won’t be beating any good photog if you can’t even do basic influencer.

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EVF blackout !!5Dz+C7v45HK Wed 31 May 2023 11:29:52 No.4184813 Report

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>>4184766
>They all use the same simple rules and it’s really easy to figure out.
yeah, center subject and flattering pose lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2023 00:12:30 No.4185072 Report

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>>4184813

They are pretty good with backgrounds too.
Remember their whole point is to show off and be cooler than the other girls on Instagram so they need to show where they are and make it look good.
That involves composition and lighting too.
They have a lot more rules going on once you look closer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2023 05:33:05 No.4185208 Report

Quoted By: >>4185306

>>4184766
That's kind of stupid. Watching someone like Manny Ortiz would be much more productive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2023 13:31:10 No.4185282 Report

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>>4184650
Thank you for this, it's actually a great read. The graphic oriented sequel version is cheap for Kindle, and there's probably pdfs scattered everywhere. Thank you Anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2023 14:21:38 No.4185302 Report

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>>4183050
i mean there are some actual famous togs on flickr but yeah the website is 60% snapshits, 30% porn

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Jun 2023 14:45:48 No.4185306 Report

Quoted By: >>4186417 >>4186452 >>4186718

>>4185208
>Manny Ortiz
KEK

How about you recommend ACTUAL photographers and not those YouTube 'popular,' failed-wannabes that resorted to YouTube/Instagram to attract clients because their photography was too shit to attract clients without it. Recommending literally anyone who posts on YouTube is only good if the person you're recommending that trash to, is learning the very basics.

For anything more advanced like color matching and color types, contrast control, lighting and lighting types, styling (if doing portraits/fashion), angles vs. composition or anything similar... For all that, you better recommend to go research actual photographers and their art and pray that they have written a book or two or maybe that there's a video or two of them on YouTube or maybe even that they have a YouTube channel...

Once you actually put in 10, 15 or more years of your life in photography, you start to realize just how shit and basic photography from people like Manny Ortiz, Laura, Pierre T. Lambert, James Popsys, Matt Granger and MANY, MANY others are... And then you also realize; ''No wonder they ended up doing YouTube.''

If you already know your way around the camera, compositions and so on, just save your self some time and skip watching these YouTube... I mean, 'photographers' and go look up actual photographers, based on whatever interests you - people/portraits/fashion, automotive, fine art, product, landscape, whatever... Go look up people like; e.g. Roger Deakins, Paul Reiffer, Yulia Gorbachenko, Gemmy Woud, Geoff Ang, Peter Coulson, Michael Muller, Morten Hilmer so on and so forth... Don't bother with YouTube recommended trash.

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Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2023 01:34:12 No.4186417 Report

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>>4185306
>just do it 10 years
>youtube photogs are bad, apparently
>half of them aren't even 5-10yrs into a career
>i like "real art"

post photos faggot
disregarded

>>4183049
find photogs you like, dissect their work, copy it but slightly different

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2023 03:09:31 No.4186452 Report

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>>4185306
You sound bitter. I never said he was the highest order of photographer but if you're just starting out there's nothing wrong with watching people like that

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Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2023 08:40:42 No.4186488 Report

Quoted By: >>4193046

Just spray & pray, that's what I've done for decades

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2023 09:24:55 No.4186503 Report

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>>4184748
There are only two of them. They are both twats who have multiple trips each.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2023 17:43:20 No.4186608 Report

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I'm no expert but this is what I would (and did) do.

Watch YouTube videos on the early photographers (Edward Steichen, Paul Strand etc). Learn about Pictorialism and other photographic movements. Look at photo books. And then take lots of photos (I recommend a small and cheap pocketable camera you can take everywhere with you). And finally print your photos. It's funny how sometimes what looks good on a screen doesn't on a print.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 04 Jun 2023 22:22:20 No.4186718 Report

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>>4185306
Dude I love Pierre T. Lambert.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jun 2023 00:55:16 No.4186752 Report

Quoted By: >>4192820

I'm going to try and co-opt this thread as a general beginner thread.

How do I / where do I learn to edit my raws? Not asking for super specific advice, it's just annoying that I can play with exposure, contrast, shadows, and sharpness all day long and the .jpg the camera spits out still looks better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jun 2023 08:37:13 No.4186857 Report

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by doing

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jun 2023 08:40:49 No.4186860 Report

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>>4183049
well some say you have to do and learn, but honestly? you can't just force or learn creativity, it's typically a natural trait one is born with, doesn't matter how many degrees you do there's no way to force it... the only caveat to this is if you're famous or have famous connections that people unknowingly classify your style as being artistic without it being true, you see this all the time in the confusion of the average /p/ thread like "why is this shit photog famous"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Jun 2023 22:04:16 No.4190345 Report

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>>4183049
Practice and inspiration.

Prayer can help too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jun 2023 04:17:21 No.4192820 Report

Quoted By: >>4192849

>>4186752
Bump also want to now

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jun 2023 05:37:33 No.4192849 Report

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>>4192820
the true answer: post your own threads on /p/ and not /rpt/ and ask for ratings
it'll be harsh but it'll be honest and help you learn to cull your crappy images, which is 90% of photography

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jun 2023 19:43:04 No.4193046 Report

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>>4186488
What do you do when you hold the shutter and suddenly 2000 photos to sift through?

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