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Anonymous Wed 05 Jul 2023 07:37:58 No.4199156 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>4199223 >>4199504 >>4201743

How does that make you feel?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Jul 2023 12:25:27 No.4199208 Report

Quoted By: >>4199223 >>4199228 >>4199246 >>4199251

for someone who was apparently a talentless spray and pray hack, it really boggles my mind how no one here can take photos better than him, let alone get close to strangers in the first place.

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cinefag !CiNE/YT/e6 Wed 05 Jul 2023 13:50:19 No.4199223 Report

Quoted By: >>4199228 >>4199231

>>4199156
You think his detractors such as yours truly seethe because of him. It's more the opposite, we enjoy watching his fanboys seethe when poinnting out he was a hack.
>>4199208
It's super easy, a while ago I sprayed and prayed at an event I went to and surprisingly enough the output was Winogrand tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Jul 2023 14:22:35 No.4199228 Report

Quoted By: >>4199235

>>4199208
Haters are good at hating and not much else.
>>4199223
Proving my point, here's cinefag. Is he going to post proof of his "Winogrand-tier" photos? No. Is he going to call me a butthurt fanboy or something to that effect? Probably. Am I a fanboy or even a fan? No, I don't give a shit about Winogrand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Jul 2023 14:28:36 No.4199231 Report

Quoted By: >>4199235

>>4199223
thats cool. surely if you got enough photos at Winogrand tier, surely you will be able to post one. it would be really amazing if we had a photographer on here that could take photos at the same tier he could.
(we all know whats going to happen from here)

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cinefag !CiNE/YT/e6 Wed 05 Jul 2023 14:39:16 No.4199235 Report

Quoted By: >>4199243

>>4199228
>Is he going to post proof of his "Winogrand-tier" photos?
Here you go, faggot.
No, you don't get to see the full photo. PERSEC is a thing.
The entirety of Winogrand's work is "heh, I happened to press the shutter when this happened". And that was my pic as well, but I don't try to act like it was art. In my case it was photojournalism because I was covering an event. If it's not art but also not photojournalism because it's just the mundane life of a random person being photographed, then it's street. Enter Winogrand's pic of the same expression done by the woman with the ice cream cone.
Some of his work could be called photojournalism, take for instance the Cape Kennedy photos. It's a very "behind the scenes" photo of some random people but it does document an event.
>>4199231
That's the thing, his photos aren't extraordinary at any level. They're the epitome of "taken, not made".

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Jul 2023 15:00:27 No.4199243 Report

Quoted By: >>4199244

>>4199235
Until you post the photos, any claim you make about them is unverifiable and moot. Stop making claims that you cannot support.

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cinefag !CiNE/YT/e6 Wed 05 Jul 2023 15:08:15 No.4199244 Report

Quoted By: >>4199247

>>4199243
This is a crop of a photo. It supports the claim. The laugh with the head tilted back is what makes Winogrand's photo and it's present in mine too. It's mundane shitposting. "Heh I pressed the shutter while this woman laughed."

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Jul 2023 15:12:23 No.4199246 Report

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>>4199208
>how no one here can take photos better than him
Lots of people can, and have done better. Only cinefag and canon can't because they don't own working cameras. Theirs have been broken for a while, lol.
>let alone get close to strangers in the first place.
Anyone CAN get close to strangers. But not everyone is a "disrespectful foreigner" who WILL shove a camera in their face like they're a zoo animal.

All winogrand did was take snapshits in new york. If you've lived there (i have), or rightfully have a sense of disdain for the shithole, they are garbage. Because they are basically rude snapshits with higher image quality than the average retard was putting out at the time. Some nepotism and racial privilege undoubtedly played a role.

Also see steven shore: "i'm friends with the richest photographer on earth and use an 8x10 large format camera so my vapid snapshots are good now"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Jul 2023 15:16:15 No.4199247 Report

Quoted By: >>4199252

>>4199244
That's not the photo, that's part of the photo. You can't judge the whole photo by one part of it.
This is like saying "oh I can build and awesome skyscraper because I built a ship and both of those use steel". Post the full photo or shut the fuck up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Jul 2023 15:23:12 No.4199251 Report

Quoted By: >>4199253 >>4199274

>>4199208
We have a whole thread where you can see how literally everyone on /p/ is better than that creepy long nosed uggo
>>4195132

And remember, gay winotard left hundreds of rolls undeveloped and hundreds more negatives developed but untouched. He was the equivalent of the below average /p/ user, spraying and praying because he was a (((financially fortunate individual))) who could afford the volume of film.

The only famous photographer who is nearly as bad in that department is ansel adams. He also left hundreds of unused photos and was pretty much just the rich son of timber company owners going on camping trips and sometimes being lucky enough to catch cool looking sunlight, and then he went ham on them in stone age lightroom, which is his real claim to fame, and why cinophoto always praises him because his photographs were all making and 0 taking (the taking was spray and pray, LF cameras are hard to get right)

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cinefag !CiNE/YT/e6 Wed 05 Jul 2023 15:23:19 No.4199252 Report

Quoted By: >>4199257

>>4199247
>crops aren't photos
Okay Henri, k3k

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cinefag !CiNE/YT/e6 Wed 05 Jul 2023 15:25:09 No.4199253 Report

Quoted By: >>4199258

>>4199251
>The only famous photographer who is nearly as bad in that department is ansel adams. He also left hundreds of unused photos and was pretty much just the rich son of timber company owners going on camping trips and sometimes being lucky enough to catch cool looking sunlight, and then he went ham on them in stone age lightroom, which is his real claim to fame, and why cinophoto always praises him because his photographs were all making and 0 taking (the taking was spray and pray, LF cameras are hard to get right)
Not taking your bait just because you prefaced it with correct assertions about Winogrand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Jul 2023 15:29:11 No.4199257 Report

Quoted By: >>4199262

>>4199252
Presumably, this is a crop of the photos you intended and not the full photo as you intended. Stop being disingenuous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Jul 2023 15:30:02 No.4199258 Report

Quoted By: >>4199262

>>4199253
That's not bait it's historical fact, he had boxes upon boxes of developed sheets and rolls that he never used, or only used to teach clinics as examples of mistakes or technically good but not artistically worth showing. So many someone even accidentally got a few at a yard sale and made millions off the name alone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Jul 2023 15:34:46 No.4199260 Report

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Cinefag is eric kim

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cinefag !CiNE/YT/e6 Wed 05 Jul 2023 15:37:34 No.4199262 Report

Quoted By: >>4199268 >>4199271

>>4199257
It's not being disingenuous, it's proof of the photo. The defining element is in the crop. That laugh is what makes Winogrand's photo, without it is nothing. Without the rest it'd be just as good.
>>4199258
They were developed and he didn't find them to meet his standards. Nothing wrong with that.
It's not like Winogrand's own snapshitting he didn't even bother looking at. Some were even left undeveloped. Thousands of pics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Jul 2023 16:00:42 No.4199268 Report

Quoted By: >>4199270

>>4199262
>make many pictures with the hope that some will be good
Without taking great time and expense to stage a simulation of sports action and do multiple takes (with strobes and deep focus!), this is the only way to reliably shoot sports action. The fastest 35mm film camera ever made was a one off produced specifically for shooting the olympics.

35mm definitely has its utility, only now that digital is in medium format film territory and even faster than prior film cameras you get everything under 4x5 in a small box.

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cinefag !CiNE/YT/e6 Wed 05 Jul 2023 16:03:27 No.4199270 Report

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>>4199268
I don't disagree, but I was talking about art and so was Ansel Adams. For journalism it's great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Jul 2023 16:04:00 No.4199271 Report

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>>4199262
A photo is a culmination of elements. Your photo isn't "Winogrand-tier" because of one, singular element that both share, just as a ship isn't a skyscraper because of one, singular element that they share. This is why you're being disingenuous... or maybe you're just retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Jul 2023 16:12:01 No.4199274 Report

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>>4199251
>We have a whole thread where you can see how literally everyone on /p/ is better than that creepy long nosed uggo
and it's true, literally everyone on /p/ is better or at least as good as winogrand. photography in the 50s and 60s just commanded more awe, and people did not have google access to public records and social media so it was more difficult to write off winohack because he was a clear beneficiary of the boys club of the corrupt and nepotistic art world. we know these things today but the cattle like consoomers of the day could not have, nor had they seen such photography, because adjusted for earnings and CoL film was $50-75/roll and few could afford to spray and pray at the mundane like that just so they could pick out 1 or 2 sharp, almost well composed photos from several rolls.

winogrand, however, had very hard working parents (not your typical banker family jews) who were able to economically elevate their family, an air force paycheck, and an official job as a photojournalist, so he could have theoretically billed his employer for a few rolls here and there or done personal projects on the job.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jul 2023 00:07:28 No.4199481 Report

Quoted By: >>4199491 >>4199497

>my dads not the owner of a timber company so i cant take photos
>film is too expensive back in the day so that makes him special because he bought so much film (lets ignore fomapan being $6/roll in 2023)
>i have to write a paragraph why i cant post a photo because the FBI are in my walls
>the sharpness and image quality made his photos and no one has replicated his success now because 60mp digital doesnt exist
All these copes and not a single photo. lol, lmao even

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jul 2023 00:12:04 No.4199483 Report

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>taking the time to discuss with a known no photo dogfucker
bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jul 2023 00:14:14 No.4199485 Report

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You still have to sift through all those photos that you pray and spray to find the ones that hit. You have to mine that sd card and I don't even want to think about doing that with film.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jul 2023 00:18:49 No.4199491 Report

Quoted By: >>4199513

>>4199481
this cope has already been debunked

>/rpt/
>portfolio/insta thread
>brand circlejerks
>wildlife thread
>macro thread
everyone on /p/ is better than winogrand
except cinefraud
he's only almost as good as him

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cinefag !CiNE/YT/e6 Thu 06 Jul 2023 00:23:10 No.4199497 Report

Quoted By: >>4199499 >>4199510 >>4199513 >>4199532

>>4199481
Winogrand was a sucessful photo grifter, not photographer. He sprayed so hard that sometimes his prayers were answered, but even when they weren't he could easily convince the marks it was good stuff because his pals were the ones in charge of determining what was good and the sheep wanted to appear refined and cultured by accepting that as fact. It's a circlejerk. Anyone on /p/ is at least as good as Winogrand because all you need is a warm body to point the camera at people and press the shutter. With A mode existing you have no excuse to be worse than Winogrand unless you lack hands. I'm not saying you have no excuse to not be a Crewdson tier artist. I'm saying you have no excuse to be worse than a snapshitting hack like Winogrand, but most importantly no reason to be in awe of his snapshits just because the establishment says you should be. Wake up, the emperor has no clothes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jul 2023 00:24:10 No.4199499 Report

Quoted By: >>4199517

>>4199497
>Anyone on /p/ is at least as good as winogrand
And then there's you, who has trouble even reaching that standard

Prove me wrong and post a photo

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jul 2023 00:47:45 No.4199504 Report

Quoted By: >>4199509 >>4199517 >>4199717

>>4199156
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RM9KcYEYXs
>photographer is responsible for two things
>once you put your body where it want it to be
>what's in the frame
>what's in the edges
>and when the shutter snaps

You can't hate someone that spews that wisdom.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jul 2023 01:10:38 No.4199509 Report

Quoted By: >>4199517 >>4199717

>>4199504
Man has never lit a scene or edited anything in his life

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jul 2023 01:11:39 No.4199510 Report

Quoted By: >>4199517

>>4199497
>all you need is A mode to be the same as him
new cope unlocked. how many cameras do you own (we know you dont take photos) that have A mode?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jul 2023 01:20:35 No.4199513 Report

Quoted By: >>4199517

>>4199491
Even sugar is better than winogrand

>>4199497
Let’s see paul allens pictures

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cinefag !CiNE/YT/e6 Thu 06 Jul 2023 01:35:51 No.4199517 Report

Quoted By: >>4199530 >>4199533 >>4199541 >>4199542

>>4199499
You go first.
>>4199504
That's a guy with camera, not an artist.
>>4199509
This k3k
>>4199510
*woosh*
All I'm saying is back in the day at least you had to be able to operate a meter, nowadays you don't even have the excuse that metering is too hard for you.
Other than a literal toy camera and my phone all my cameras have PASM. I don't buy any camera with no manual mode and I don't buy ancient stuff (I may make an exception for an Exakta in the future if the right one pops up).
I also don't buy anything that takes lenses I can't mount on my film rig.
>>4199513
>Even sugar
You say that as if Sugar wasn't one of the best photographers on /p/.
Of the recognizable ones the best are Alex, Eggy, Ambush, Sugar.
Even branchanon is far superior to Winogrand.

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cANON !!5Dz+C7v45HK Thu 06 Jul 2023 02:20:16 No.4199530 Report

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>>4199517
>Of the recognizable ones the best are Alex, Eggy, Ambush, Sugar.
>no fe2fucker
Reeks of jealousy here

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jul 2023 02:23:04 No.4199532 Report

Quoted By: >>4199542 >>4199545 >>4199547 >>4199566

>>4199497
Here's the thing: it's not about how good you are. It's about how good the things you leave behind are. Unsurprising a tripfag wouldn't understand that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jul 2023 02:23:22 No.4199533 Report

Quoted By: >>4199588

>>4199517
>All I'm saying is back in the day at least you had to be able to operate a meter
you think you need to meter for bw film? lmao you keep outing yourself as never haven taken a photo ever. keep going

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jul 2023 02:46:20 No.4199541 Report

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>>4199517
>metering
>black and white
Winergrond would shoot the same f/11 1/1000 every day and just inspected his negatives under a safelight mid-development

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jul 2023 02:47:38 No.4199542 Report

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>>4199517
>You go first
In another thread someone posted an entire 500px page and told you to post a photo and you still did not

>>4199532
Winogay didn't leave anything good behind, but a lesson in why you should never trust the "art world".

cANON !!5Dz+C7v45HK

cANON !!5Dz+C7v45HK Thu 06 Jul 2023 02:56:28 No.4199545 Report

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>>4199532
Nixon left good soldiers behind, I guess he's okay in your book.

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cANON !!5Dz+C7v45HK Thu 06 Jul 2023 02:57:30 No.4199547 Report

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>>4199532
And so did Brandon too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jul 2023 03:50:58 No.4199566 Report

Quoted By: >>4199926

>>4199532
>It's about how good the things you leave behind are
I think i know what you meant you worded it all wrong, friendo

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cinefag !CiNE/YT/e6 Thu 06 Jul 2023 07:14:03 No.4199588 Report

Quoted By:

>>4199533
>>4199533
You never had a thin negative in B&W? Lucky you.
>f/11 1/1000s
f/9 1/125s is already tough on 400 speed after dawn but admittedly films were rated more conservatively in the 50s

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jul 2023 16:25:46 No.4199717 Report

Quoted By: >>4199722

>>4199504
pure wisdom, by far the most important lesson in photography and it filters retards

>>4199509
Even in staged photography position matters a ton

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jul 2023 16:29:30 No.4199722 Report

Quoted By: >>4199726

>>4199717
Light matters more than position. An awkwardly angled snapshot of a wall in good light is still better than a well composed flatly lit snapshit at noon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jul 2023 16:32:23 No.4199726 Report

Quoted By: >>4199728

>>4199722
How does position excludes the care for light?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jul 2023 16:36:31 No.4199728 Report

Quoted By: >>4199730 >>4199744

>>4199726
They are separate concerns.

He also explicitly discounts staging the scene. Because he was incapable. He wasn't creative, he just snapshitted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jul 2023 16:40:12 No.4199730 Report

Quoted By: >>4199733

>>4199728
Staged photography is different but position in street photography does include concern for light.

I don't think he was a snapshitter because he made at least 3 good books and 3 of those are very different to each other. A snapshitter can maybe make one good book.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jul 2023 16:43:57 No.4199733 Report

Quoted By: >>4199735 >>4199738

>>4199730
>he made 3 good books
He made 0 good books while burning through several rolls a day

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jul 2023 16:45:15 No.4199735 Report

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>>4199733
ok

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jul 2023 16:59:36 No.4199738 Report

Quoted By: >>4199741

>>4199733
That's like when teenagers lose a football match and to save some embarrassment they start coping by making excuses likes that the other team brought 20 something boys.

I remember that old Pictorialist mantra
>End justify the mean

There are literally no rules about how you do it, the only thing is to make it good. In art this moralistic whining about roll burning is a petty as fuck same as fucking 17th century Jesuits whining about women showing ankles or some shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jul 2023 17:14:31 No.4199741 Report

Quoted By: >>4199743

>>4199738
>The only thing is to make it good
He failed at that, completely.

>Ends justify the means
Unfortunately the means were highly conducive to a mediocre end. Would you distinguish him from random amateurs if not told to by "the art world"? No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jul 2023 17:17:21 No.4199743 Report

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>>4199741
Zoo is an original book.
Women are beautiful is an original book.

Feel free to point me towards some pre-existing photobooks with same themes and style

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cinefag !CiNE/YT/e6 Thu 06 Jul 2023 17:20:30 No.4199744 Report

Quoted By: >>4199746

>>4199728
I disagree with that, in occasion he staged shots (his kids in New Mexico for example). But in street the narrative is that it's mere happenstance 100% of the time, because staging is frowned upon. Like HCB and cropping. The tell-tale sign of a street photographer is being full of shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jul 2023 17:22:53 No.4199746 Report

Quoted By: >>4199759

>>4199744
>The tell-tale sign of a street photographer is being full of shit.
Easy on gobbling up academia's cock and balls bro. The woke establishment hates street photography and your post glows.

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cinefag !CiNE/YT/e6 Thu 06 Jul 2023 17:40:44 No.4199759 Report

Quoted By: >>4199767

>>4199746
Academia is the #1 promoter of street. Winogrand was a photography professor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jul 2023 17:50:00 No.4199767 Report

Quoted By: >>4199770

>>4199759
I am talking about contemporary academia. You're hilariously uniformed if you think that academia is shilling SP. Street is anti-woke and anti-pc because muh heckin consent, invasion of personal space, lack of empathy, cis toxic masculine gaze and whatever the fuck.

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cinefag !CiNE/YT/e6 Thu 06 Jul 2023 17:54:13 No.4199770 Report

Quoted By: >>4199772

>>4199767
Street is woke with exceptions to make it possible. "Feminist" men are often rapists themselves, it's just how it goes. Communists often live in wealth. If leftists weren't full of shit they wouldn't be leftists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jul 2023 17:57:27 No.4199772 Report

Quoted By: >>4199990

>>4199770
Cope harder glowie
Galleries outright reject new street photography projects.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Jul 2023 23:42:36 No.4199926 Report

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>>4199566
Not "wrong" to talk about your body of work as being "left behind" (eg when you move on, either metaphorically or literally passing on) but I understand the confusion

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jul 2023 01:59:57 No.4199990 Report

Quoted By: >>4200104

>>4199772
No they don’t

Move out of california

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jul 2023 08:56:38 No.4200104 Report

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>>4199990
Although I admit I haven't tried, every gallery/competition submission makes sure you have copyright/ownership/blah blah of all your photos. Good luck getting a release of the family holding balloons you just snapped

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Jul 2023 20:38:30 No.4200304 Report

Quoted By: >>4201578 >>4201580

Computer, early life on Winogrand, asap please.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 09:09:09 No.4201578 Report

Quoted By: >>4201745

>>4200304
>da jooooooo
*Yawn*

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 09:30:23 No.4201580 Report

Quoted By: >>4201584

>>4200304
yes, if you had a big nose you would be able to take good photos. shame you cant though

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 09:36:16 No.4201584 Report

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>>4201580
based

having a big nose as a photographer is same as having a big dick. if you lack big nose energy as photographer you're ngmi

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 15:33:27 No.4201743 Report

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>>4199156
y-you think im a b-buck??

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 15:36:27 No.4201745 Report

Quoted By: >>4201752

>>4201578
This is one case where it was blatant and multiple jews outright admitted, on the record, that they decided photography was their thing now.

The activity of jews in the "art" world is entirely responsible for conspiracy theories about them everywhere else. of course, all of those are false, it's just easy to do in art because it has never meant anything to society and with the 20th century it really didn't mean anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 15:42:43 No.4201752 Report

Quoted By: >>4201756

>>4201745
Jews are nepotistic? So what? Every race is nepotistic. Only whites have developed this neurotic fear of each other. They hate themselves.

Garry was intelligent and he was from working class. Bresson's dad was mill owner, how does that make you feel? Why can't we separate art from artists. This is SJW bullshite but in reverse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 15:49:58 No.4201756 Report

Quoted By: >>4201896 >>4201997 >>4202001

>>4201752
>Jews are nepotistic
Only in art, really. The fabled jewish nepotism is totally absent everywhere else, where they are basically exactly like white people.
>Every race is nepotistic
Yes. In art.

it is overly pronounced in art. Because art does not contribute to society. It is not subject to scrutiny because scrutinizing something that is wholly irrelevant is a waste of time for anyone with regulatory authority. Art has always been a serial speculative bubble scam where networking beats vision.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 22:58:18 No.4201896 Report

Quoted By: >>4201898

>>4201756
>Because art does not contribute to society
Maybe yours doesn't

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 23:01:46 No.4201898 Report

Quoted By: >>4202001 >>4202008

>>4201896
anon, photography killed art. it used to be a skilled trade that was essential for the opulence of royalty and the preservation of history. even then, many considered it useless save for writing and the most basic drawings. now everyone is an artist. then came computers and they beat the rest of art to death for a laugh.

thus what's left of art today is absolute garbage and an exercise in mental masturbation or simply unimpressive because anyone can do it. art is dead. long live speculating on quirky garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jul 2023 06:49:02 No.4201997 Report

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>>4201756
>Only in art, really.
Wrong, Moshe

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jul 2023 07:27:25 No.4202001 Report

Quoted By: >>4202194

>>4201756
>>4201898
you are fucked in the head and i don't trust anything you have to say about art or photography. art is part of society. we don't know of any human societies that didn't have it in some form.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jul 2023 08:31:03 No.4202008 Report

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>>4201898
>now everyone is an artist
They are when they produce the same, low quality shit that you do. Get off Instagram, go buy a photo book. If you tell me no skill was required in making some of those images then replicate it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Jul 2023 19:02:14 No.4202194 Report

Quoted By: >>4203255

>>4202001
art is literally useless. It has no practical purpose. But it has entertainment or metaphysical purpose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jul 2023 06:24:34 No.4203255 Report

Quoted By: >>4203432

>>4202194
Ah yes, cause art was never used in revolution or massive societal change.

Fucking 80IQ retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jul 2023 18:12:19 No.4203432 Report

Quoted By: >>4203500

>>4203255
That's reportage not art.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jul 2023 20:55:31 No.4203500 Report

Quoted By: >>4203798

>>4203432
So you are a fucking retard. Music is art. Graffiti is art (not anymore mostly). Writing is art. And photography can also be art. Can't imagine what you're like trying to have sex cause your body and mind clearly are not connected. Must look like an old sea turtle fruitlessly trying to climb up onto a raft.

Anonymous

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>muh dicks and pussies
kys retarded woman
Art is useless as in it serves no survival function. You can live without and life won't stop.

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