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Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2024 15:37:20 No.4336182 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>4336187 >>4336193 >>4336210 >>4336219 >>4336342 >>4336348 >>4336529 >>4336534 >>4336571

>Why does almost every photographer feel the need to edit their photos in photoshop?
>Why are edited the photos the default now in every facet of life?

I do not understand this, 5k cameras that are supposedly the best ever and yet the pics get such heavy editing in various softwares.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2024 15:42:13 No.4336187 Report

Quoted By: >>4336506

>>4336182
>pay thousand(s) for camera
>decide you know better than the finely tuned manufacturer's jpeg engine
>contrast/saturation? swipe right
>crush shadows for even more contrast and vibe
>throw film sim or lut on top (maybe both!) for good measure
Yeah idk OP I guess people want to feel like they are smart

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2024 16:18:54 No.4336193 Report

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>>4336182
Because they will NEVER look as good as film.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2024 16:21:58 No.4336194 Report

Quoted By: >>4336209

film chads stay winning

fe2fucker

fe2fucker Fri 12 Jul 2024 16:22:47 No.4336195 Report

Quoted By: >>4336201

Because you might want a certain look from what the camera gives you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2024 16:28:30 No.4336201 Report

Quoted By: >>4336206 >>4336253 >>4336259

>>4336195
>wow photography allows for the exact capturing of what we see over painting, this is such a ground breaking thing

>yea bro I dont want the camera to show reality, I want it to show what I thought was real

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2024 16:34:12 No.4336206 Report

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>>4336201
>cameras show reality
imagine being this imbecile

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2024 16:43:50 No.4336209 Report

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>>4336194
That shot is out of focus, meh snapshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2024 16:46:44 No.4336210 Report

Quoted By: >>4336213 >>4336226 >>4336237

>>4336182
post some unedited photos you've taken, since they're perfect out of camera right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2024 16:55:59 No.4336213 Report

Quoted By: >>4336215

>>4336210
Ive never claimed to be a professional. A pro, at anything, should be able to get it done right

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2024 17:02:54 No.4336215 Report

Quoted By: >>4336237

>>4336213
Post any photos you've taken unedited, don't need to be a pro to have a in-focus shot right?
You are aware of color grading and post processing even in film right?
You are aware every scanned film shot is also post processed especially when scanning the negatives right?
>A pro, at anything, should be able to get it done right
Uhuh, that's why every professional never do any post processing, especially in cinema.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2024 17:04:11 No.4336217 Report

Quoted By: >>4336220 >>4336237

Are you complaining about JPEGs / post processing RAWs, or photoshoping artifical bullshit? There's a difference between wanting to process a RAW yourself instead of relying on a JPEG, and photoshopping shit until it's """"asthetic""""

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2024 17:08:40 No.4336219 Report

Quoted By: >>4336228

>>4336182
All cameras including your phone have a mode where they produce non-editied photos called jpegs

it is universally agreed upon that these do not look good. Shooting jpeg is the fastest way to delude yourself into thinking digital is unusably bad and only film looks good. It's not even a "lol, anime land sucks at creativity and aesthetics" thing because iphone cameras are US designed and their jpegs still look like shit.

With film, the only people who "shot jpeg" were slide film users. Slide film, like jpeg, looks really fucking awful with garish colors and makes using a camera a more nerdy and less artistic activity. Negative film users were the photo-editing raw shooters of the day, and like today, most "used a preset" (had someone else color grade their scans or do their prints)

A camera can not produce a good looking copy of reality because camera technology is still centuries behind the mammalian eyeball. Every photo needs adjusted by a conscious actor (human being, not AI). Cameras can't even see the color of light correctly. You can try it yourself. On film, or digital, light will always be too blue, too orange, or green tinted, but your eyeballs will see more balanced colors instead of neon vomit. This is why most professional photography is done with a controlled light source (flash).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2024 17:08:58 No.4336220 Report

Quoted By: >>4336237 >>4336535

>>4336217
He's a retard frogposter that probably doesn't even have a camera, it's why he won't post a photo.
Every other day a new post pops up with a retarded statement.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2024 17:27:22 No.4336226 Report

Quoted By: >>4336230

>>4336210
>he didn't get it right in camera

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2024 17:29:20 No.4336228 Report

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>>4336219
>non-editied photos called jpegs
Imbecile

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2024 17:34:44 No.4336230 Report

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>>4336226
Post a unedited photo you got perfect in camera :^)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2024 17:53:35 No.4336237 Report

Quoted By: >>4336242

>>4336220
>>4336217
>>4336215
>>4336210
This proves nothing except you are a retarded faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2024 18:04:50 No.4336242 Report

Quoted By: >>4336245 >>4336391

>>4336237
Good on you for posting pics.
>filmtard complaining about post processing
Classic. Any film processors usually do some exposure compensations with PD lighting, same with color correction.
Even more so when scanned. If you process and scan your own, you have more control in it, but usually still needs some post processing and needs dedicated post processing for scanning negatives if returning to color.
This has been a thing since before computers were even created. You're the retard trying to say it's dumb.
Hell they even did different affects with chemical treatment of film as post processing.
Things like the hazeltine color analyzer and dedicated RBG setups have been around since the 60s for color grading.
Shit Chris Nolan still only does chemical post processing on film for his movies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2024 18:14:29 No.4336245 Report

Quoted By: >>4336248

>>4336242
NTA, but if scanning positive film, does it not reduce the amount of leeway the software has since its not inverting the colors as you would on negative.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2024 18:25:52 No.4336248 Report

Quoted By: >>4336249

>>4336245
Honestly I cannot speak to that as I have never scanned positives, or done any film shooting in over a decade.
Some color grading wise yes but exposure I don't think so, usually this is done by the film processor when receiving scans, not including the lighting/exposure compensation the processors do when processing the film in the fist place. So the "get it perfect in camera" rarely happens. It's why there's an entire industry in film/digital for color grading and processing and generally an entirely different workflow for professional work.
Film is cool, and the process is neat, and it's great people still use it. It can have really interesting effects and texture, but people like op who don't know that film actually has post processing done, are pretty ridiculous on their high horse.
It's where the term pushing/pulling came from for longer chem rest times or shorter, for fixing exposure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2024 18:30:58 No.4336249 Report

Quoted By: >>4336250 >>4337753

>>4336248
>Film is cool, and the process is neat, and it's great people still use it. It can have really interesting effects and texture, but people like op who don't know that film actually has post processing done, are pretty ridiculous on their high horse.

You are being disingenuous. The amount of post processing you can do on film is way smaller than the shit typically done in digital. I am not speaking about retards who scan film and then manipulate it in photoshop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2024 18:34:45 No.4336250 Report

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>>4336249
>The amount of post processing you can do on film is way smaller than the shit typically done in digital.
I'm not disagreeing at all, it's a lot more restricted, negative scanning you can get a lot more crazy with it however.
The whole point of OP's post was editing photos in general which is what I called out as if there's 0 editing in film processing.
>Why are edited the photos the default now in every facet of life?
They always have been.

fe2fucker

fe2fucker Fri 12 Jul 2024 18:44:21 No.4336253 Report

Quoted By:

>>4336201
Yeah?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2024 19:23:54 No.4336259 Report

Quoted By:

>>4336201
A camera sensor is a piece of data gathering equipment and you can do whatever you want with it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2024 23:11:55 No.4336340 Report

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Wet plate is the answer

cANON !!5Dz+C7v45HK

cANON !!5Dz+C7v45HK Fri 12 Jul 2024 23:13:05 No.4336342 Report

Quoted By: >>4336361

>>4336182
Photoshop is the digital darkroom. Photography is more than pressing a button.

cANON !!5Dz+C7v45HK

cANON !!5Dz+C7v45HK Fri 12 Jul 2024 23:20:46 No.4336348 Report

Quoted By: >>4336361

>>4336182
I'll tell you something so that you realize photography doesn't equal truth. Allegedly in 1969 a crew of American astronauts went to the Moon. There's photos of them on the "Moon". And yet, you can't see a landing site from Earth. Even though they allegedly left stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2024 23:44:52 No.4336361 Report

Quoted By:

>>4336342
>>4336348
We're reaching levels of cope I didn't think we're possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2024 23:54:38 No.4336370 Report

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Just shoot film, I wish I never even brought a digital camera. I wasted years before buying a film camera and realising the photos look a lot nicer and I spend 95% less time editing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2024 01:44:30 No.4336391 Report

Quoted By: >>4336568

>>4336242
>different affects
You are the dumb one, opinion discarded

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2024 04:37:02 No.4336455 Report

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2024 04:39:12 No.4336456 Report

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Photographers have always spent time improving the photo after capture. Pretending to be superior because you don’t put in the time to learn techniques to better your work is churlish behavior.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2024 09:48:56 No.4336506 Report

Quoted By: >>4336798

>>4336187
That's not how it works. You load your raw files into PS or Capture One and export them using the default settings, not moving any sliders. Why? Because the sharpening, noise reduction etc is much better/more powerful in your PC than on your camera.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2024 11:31:21 No.4336529 Report

Quoted By: >>4338318

>>4336182
well, if your aim is to just document and not be artistic with it, then i understand your gripe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2024 11:48:27 No.4336534 Report

Quoted By:

>>4336182
That's why I'll never take digifags seriously.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2024 11:49:50 No.4336535 Report

Quoted By: >>4336568

>>4336220
Touched a nerve, heh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2024 13:05:57 No.4336568 Report

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>>4336535
it's just low effort bullshit multiple times a week on a slow board, it's obnoxious and OP clearly doesn't know what he's talking about.
>>4336391
>what is film bleaching
>what is engraving
>what is soap/detergent film mods
>what is heating/freezing to get film cracks
You're the retard nigga.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2024 13:27:29 No.4336571 Report

Quoted By:

>>4336182
>who do people stuff I don't like
>reeee
get fucked, tranny

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2024 14:07:11 No.4336579 Report

Quoted By: >>4336781 >>4336784

>photography doesn't equal truth

Why bother with photography then? Just pick up painting and drawing, don't be a talentless button-presser

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cANON !!5Dz+C7v45HK Sat 13 Jul 2024 21:04:40 No.4336781 Report

Quoted By:

>>4336579
To fulfill a vision

cANON

cANON Sat 13 Jul 2024 21:07:36 No.4336784 Report

Quoted By: >>4336830

>>4336579
>don't be a talentless button-presser
>He said, as he pressed the buttons on his keyboard to express the sentiment

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2024 21:46:43 No.4336798 Report

Quoted By:

>>4336506
Camera uses ASICs so it might give same result.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2024 00:23:28 No.4336830 Report

Quoted By:

>>4336784
I used the pencil of my drawing tablet, retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2024 00:40:50 No.4336839 Report

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I have no idea OP. Most snapshits look fine enough out of the camera using the presets for the lighting conditions for me. Very rarely do i feel the need to drag sliders in software.

Art_repro_fag22

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Art_repro_fag22 Mon 15 Jul 2024 17:19:00 No.4337753 Report

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>>4336249
Major edits can and were done with entirely analog workflows, same for motion picture. Film has just as many editing decisions that impact the final image. B/w, color neg, or slide? Which stock? What size format? what printing method? Push/pull? Dodging and burning? etc. Digital allows for more, and makes it easier/cheaper, but there is largely nothing new.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2024 23:43:21 No.4338318 Report

Quoted By: >>4338388

>>4336529
This is my problem. You will have photos "documenting life" be is street photos, or people doing bizarre jobs or whatever. And people will edit out random shit like power lines, or airbrush peoples face. Why? You're no longer documenting anything,and what you're capturing has nothing to gain with these edits so why do it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jul 2024 03:15:19 No.4338388 Report

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>>4338318
Sometimes stuff can be distracting. Editing something out that could reasonably never be there in the first place that would never be noticed is perfectly fine

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