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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 21:40:15 No.4340385 View View Reply Original Report

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Thoughts on the f100? I've been tempted lately because of the Nikon 24-85mm f/2.8-4 D. It seems like it could be my perfect single lens setup and after shooting with a fully manual film camera for awhile, I really want to go back to something that shoots more like a modern camera but I didn't want the bulk of the f5

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 21:56:42 No.4340391 Report

Quoted By: >>4340394 >>4347964

>>4340385
Fucking based setup OP I'm after something to serve the same purpose. I'm missing too many shots with manual focus only

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 22:07:34 No.4340392 Report

Quoted By: >>4340408

>>4340385
>Nikon 24-85mm f/2.8-4 D
you're better off using the later 24-85 G VR instead. yes the F100 drives VR just fine. don't let the sticker speed fool you; the 2.8-4D is borderline unusable wide open. you're better off with three stops of VR instead

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cANON !!5Dz+C7v45HK Mon 22 Jul 2024 22:09:30 No.4340393 Report

Quoted By: >>4340396

>>4340385
F80 is better for most people IMO. If you're in the minority for whom the extras on the F100 make a difference go for it, otherwise the F80 is handier and cheaper.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 22:10:17 No.4340394 Report

Quoted By: >>4340495

>>4340391
I think manual focus is fine when I'm out fucking around and it's easy to go back and retake shots, but I've been traveling a lot more lately and just want something faster and more convenient. But really what's motivating me is the lens. It's just about the my dream lens. I would prefer something like a 35-90, floating aperture saves weight and makes lenses more compact. It's pretty fast, even if it falls off at 28mm to f/4, that's the same as or a full stop faster than my current lens across the focal length range

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 22:11:18 No.4340396 Report

Quoted By: >>4340399 >>4340401 >>4340499

>>4340393
what are the big differences between the 80 and 100?

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cANON !!5Dz+C7v45HK Mon 22 Jul 2024 22:19:17 No.4340399 Report

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>>4340396
80 is all plastic and not weather sealed (if I recall correctly the 100 has sealing), 80 uses IR for sensing the sprockets making it a no-go for IR stocks, 80 has integrated flash but 100 doesn't, 80 has threaded remote release cable and 100 doesn't, 100 can meter with non-chipped lenses but 80 cannot, 100 can do 1/8000s but 80's fastest speed is 1/4000s, 80's sync speed is 1/125s as opposed to 100's 1/250s, I think I covered most.
The achilles heel of both is the plastic door latch.

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cANON !!5Dz+C7v45HK Mon 22 Jul 2024 22:26:33 No.4340401 Report

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>>4340396
Also big win for the F80, PASM dial over F100's mode button.
Back when they came out the F100 was closer to the professional line, at a time when professional meant unintuitive. It's still the case at some level but that level is basically $50k medium format now.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 22:31:34 No.4340404 Report

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>>4340385
>muh blob

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 22:36:45 No.4340408 Report

Quoted By: >>4340418

>>4340392
I saw that lens and I considered grabbing it for the stabilization, but the D lens was faster and they are more or less the same size.

> don't let the sticker speed fool you; the 2.8-4D is borderline unusable wide open. you're better off with three stops of VR instead
I've used and loved a lot of lenses people said were "unusable" wide open. I think I'll try the D version first and see how I get on with it and if not then I'll return it and grab the G.

>>4340399
I do want the weather sealing, I have been getting really into hiking and camping lately. The lighter weight would be nice but like with the lens, I think I'll try it out and see if I really hate how heavy it is or not. The higher shutter speed is also helpful, I often shoot wide open during the day and/or use ISO 400 film basically all the time. The flash is a non-issue, the metering with fully manual lenses is neat, but I don't own any or plan to. I'd rather start with too much than step down than the other way around and the price difference isn't huge. I saw KEH had a sticky f100 for $200, so I grabbed it. I've successfully cleaned sticky grips before with isopropyl alcohol. I would be more inclined if I had to pay $400 to start with the F80.

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cANON !!5Dz+C7v45HK Mon 22 Jul 2024 22:48:37 No.4340418 Report

Quoted By: >>4340421

>>4340408
Godspeed anon.
One caveat, I checked and the F100 isn't sealed either, a flickr thread recommends special care with the film door which is light sealed but can and will let moisture through. It apparently has seals to add weather resistance on the buttons but the heavy duty one is the F5. Also no such thing as a sealed ILC if the lens itself lacks seals. Not that the seals on a 24 year old camera would be particularly trustworthy though (rubber dries up and shrinks), it's nice to have them but don't count on them to save you and take a rain bag if needed.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2024 22:51:25 No.4340421 Report

Quoted By: >>4340427

>>4340418
thanks bro. yeah it's fine. I always treat my cameras as unsealed anyway. It's not like the lens is sealed either. I'm just gonna fuck around and find out.

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cANON !!5Dz+C7v45HK Mon 22 Jul 2024 22:58:43 No.4340427 Report

Quoted By: >>4340542 >>4348599

>>4340421
Personally I think the neatest part about the F100 is the ability to shoot IR.
Enjoy it, I'm sure it won't disappoint. Oh and one thing I just remembered from the F80 is you couldn't stop it from self-rewinding at the end of the roll unless you pulled the battery (or had it sent to service for them to reprogram that behavior). The F100 likely has a CFn for that. The ability to swap rolls on the fly essentially makes them as practical as digital ones.

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jul 2024 02:11:25 No.4340493 Report

Quoted By: >>4340510

>>4340401
>Also big win for the F80, PASM dial over F100's mode button.
you are the first person I have ever seen to come out say that a "consumer" PASM dial has merits over the "pro" mode buttons, Nikon has maintained this distinction even into mirrorless world

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jul 2024 02:16:54 No.4340495 Report

Quoted By: >>4340542

>>4340394
if you're trying to save weight on a normal zoom, Believe It Or Not (tm) the 18-55mm *DX* can be used on fullframe/35mm as a 24-55mm lens since the dark corners from using DX-on-FX are only evident from 18-24. And it has VR and is smaller weighs less than almost any FX lens include primes.

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cANON Tue 23 Jul 2024 02:24:23 No.4340499 Report

Quoted By: >>4340511

>>4340396
The F80's viewfinder sucks.

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jul 2024 02:52:32 No.4340508 Report

Quoted By: >>4347980

>>4340385
>bulk of the f5
Just get an F5. Be the Man you know you are.

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cANON !!5Dz+C7v45HK Tue 23 Jul 2024 02:57:26 No.4340510 Report

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>>4340493
A button means cycling through menus, the dial is set and forget. I care less about what's seen as pro or amateur and more about what favors quick operation.

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cANON !!5Dz+C7v45HK Tue 23 Jul 2024 02:58:36 No.4340511 Report

Quoted By: >>4340551

>>4340499
Skill issue

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jul 2024 04:37:39 No.4340542 Report

Quoted By: >>4340544 >>4347980

>>4340495
Good to know, but probably 70% of my shots are in the 70-90mm range. So while I believe it, that particular focal length isn't that useful to me.

>>4340427
Why wouldn't I want the roll to automatically rewind?

>The ability to swap rolls on the fly essentially makes them as practical as digital ones.
Can you explain this again? I don't understand how not rewinding at the end gives me the ability to swap rolls at will

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jul 2024 04:41:48 No.4340544 Report

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>>4340542
You’re responding to our resident autist.

cANON

cANON Tue 23 Jul 2024 05:05:23 No.4340551 Report

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>>4340511
Then why is it only the F80's viewfinder that I don't have the "skill" to use?

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jul 2024 08:15:26 No.4340638 Report

Quoted By: >>4340639

i didnt like the 24-85mm f/2.8-4 D, it was just too soft and missed focus often, bought a 17-55mm f/2.8 DX AF-S G instead and i like it very much

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jul 2024 08:17:22 No.4340639 Report

Quoted By: >>4340643

>>4340638
That's for crop sensors only. Won't work on film.

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jul 2024 08:27:23 No.4340643 Report

Quoted By: >>4342508

>>4340639
oh yes true, well you could have some cool circular vignetting

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jul 2024 17:52:45 No.4342503 Report

Quoted By: >>4342599

>>4340385
Consider the F4 or the F801/N8008, the F801 is probably my favourite film camera as its basically a cut down F4 for way less money. The viewfinder is really bright and the body is really compact, about the size of an F3. the only issue I have with mine is the AF motor is very scratchy but I just shoot in MF anyway as the viewfinder is so bright and large. The F4 has weather sealing and you can shoot without the bottom grip but its definitely a bit bigger than the 801

Also consider the F90/N90 as its basically an updated 801 with AFS support but good luck finding one that doesn't have a sticky film door.

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cANON Sat 27 Jul 2024 18:11:34 No.4342508 Report

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>>4340643
>circular vignetting
Is there any other kind?

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jul 2024 22:26:26 No.4342588 Report

Quoted By: >>4342592

>f100 arrives
>spend 45 minutes cleaning the sticky rubber off the film door
>put lens on
>it's all blurry
>turn the diopter
>it does nothing
I hate it here. I have to return/exchange it now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jul 2024 22:33:45 No.4342592 Report

Quoted By: >>4342596

>>4342588
put batteries in it, the focus screen is blurry as fuck when its not powered due to the LCD layer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jul 2024 22:44:27 No.4342596 Report

Quoted By: >>4342599 >>4342604

>>4342592
I had batteries in it. But trying it again, I noticed that moving or shaking the camera can cause it to become blurry or sharp, meaning that the diopter is just floating around inside the camera.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jul 2024 22:50:42 No.4342599 Report

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>>4342503
>sticky film door
can be solved with solvent.

>>4342596
>the diopter is just floating around inside the camera
did you get it from eBay?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jul 2024 23:01:10 No.4342604 Report

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>>4342596
oop nevermind send it to hell i guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Aug 2024 00:18:51 No.4345722 Report

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>>4340385
I own an F5, and recently got an F100 from Goodwill of all places. It had the sticky back problem (which cleaned up easily enough) and was otherwise flawless and looked very lightly-used.

I use the F100 more now, simply due to the size, weight and I also prefer the viewfinder over the F5. But the color matrix meter of the F5 isn't there, and in some few situations, it can be a disadvantage.

If you get one, be very gentle in how you open and close the film door, so you don't snap the plastic latch. Also make sure the film rewind fork is the later model (ends in a square shape) instead of the defective early model (ends in a taper).

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Anonymous Wed 07 Aug 2024 00:23:53 No.4345725 Report

Quoted By: >>4345744

>just baby your plastic blob
do canonikon faggots really

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Aug 2024 00:33:18 No.4345729 Report

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>>4340385
F100 is a GOAT 35mm. I have an F4 or I'd be actively looking for one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Aug 2024 01:13:57 No.4345744 Report

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>>4345725

I have an F90x, which is a tank, not a toy!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Aug 2024 02:06:38 No.4345749 Report

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First camera I ever bought. Learned photography on it. Ultimately sorta uninspiring glass but handing and reliability was top tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Aug 2024 05:55:38 No.4345792 Report

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>>4340385
F100 is 95% of a F6, the most advanced film camera of all. …i juuust fucking wish they took that tech and built a version of that monster bitch around a 6x9 window & their big boy format lenses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Aug 2024 20:23:56 No.4347907 Report

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>>4340385
Love the F100, also consider the F80 for a "diet" version.

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Sugar !egyYvoBZV2 Tue 13 Aug 2024 23:34:18 No.4347938 Report

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Come home white man.

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Anonymous Wed 14 Aug 2024 01:15:43 No.4347964 Report

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>>4340391
I wish I never fell for the based manual focus meme. I missed so many focus shots that I can never get back. Great if you only shoot landscapes though.

I went full retard the other way and only buy G Master lenses now for AF.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Aug 2024 02:15:00 No.4347977 Report

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>>4340385
the 24-85 is kinda a shit lens, 35-70 2.8 is better. If you need 85 get the 1.4

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Aug 2024 02:31:54 No.4347980 Report

Quoted By: >>4347998 >>4348017 >>4348534

>>4340508
as an F5 owner I can tell you that lugging that goddamn boat anchor around sucks

>>4340542
>i dont understand....

its called a "leader out" modification. If yiu're halfway thru a roll and the lighting changes and you need a higher iso, or want to swith from color to black and white, or for whatever reason need or want to switch to a different film stock, you just remember what shot you're on and rewind the roll, the camera will only rewind until it gets to the "leader" (a leader being the first part of the roll with the indent) and will leave that sticking out so you can reload that unfinished roll at some point.

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Anonymous Wed 14 Aug 2024 03:30:10 No.4347998 Report

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>>4347980
Canon mid and high end bodies could do this as well as the minoltas I believe, it’s handy also just if you develop yourself, you don’t have a picker or crack your cassettes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Aug 2024 04:43:28 No.4348017 Report

Quoted By: >>4348038

>>4347980
>will leave that sticking out so you can reload that unfinished roll at some point
If you've never fished around inside a 35mm roll with a bit of stiffened sticky tape to extract the leader on a half-used roll, are you really a photographer? :)

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Anonymous Wed 14 Aug 2024 05:56:28 No.4348038 Report

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>>4348017
for me it's licking a piece of film and penetrating the canister with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Aug 2024 15:08:56 No.4348113 Report

Quoted By: >>4348116

Minolta Alpha 7 with Minolta AF 28-85mm is going to be cheaper and more capable. And it has great ergonomics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Aug 2024 15:11:03 No.4348116 Report

Quoted By: >>4348118 >>4348133

>>4348113
Too bad you cant put those lenses on Nikon DSLR's with perfect compatability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Aug 2024 15:18:32 No.4348118 Report

Quoted By: >>4348132

>>4348116
They adapt perfectly to E mount, however.

Latter Alpha cameras are quite capable too.

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Anonymous Wed 14 Aug 2024 15:36:13 No.4348132 Report

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>>4348118
>Sony

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Aug 2024 15:36:19 No.4348133 Report

Quoted By: >>4348150

>>4348116
Sony DSLRs are unironically superior in every single way. Nikon just had a better marketing budget and "muh film camera legend!"

And yes, the lenses are better than F mount trash. They never got big because they were severely lacking in the lenses and body features that professionals (sports journalists) wanted while nikon and canon were not. If you're an artist and prefer standard primes then sony/minolta DSLRs are way better. Theyre like pentax, but the autofocus works and they actually succeeded in making a mirrorless camera.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Aug 2024 16:05:14 No.4348150 Report

Quoted By: >>4348155

>>4348133
Why buy a DSLR if you're not a sports photographer? Artists shoot film on rickety compacts and Leicas. If you were one you'd know.

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Anonymous Wed 14 Aug 2024 16:10:46 No.4348155 Report

Quoted By: >>4348158

>>4348150
Those are poser artists. Real artists are a little more function, a little less fashion.

Artist = concerned with the aesthetics of their work. they are a craftsman, creator.
Poser = concerned with their aesthetics. they are an actor, character, fossor pro bono.

Maybe the artist will use a leica, maybe they won't, there's no set rule. But the poser will ALWAYS use a leica. Or else their costume would be inaccurate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Aug 2024 16:12:24 No.4348158 Report

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>>4348155
I like how you got hung up on the word leica and completely ignored the rest of my sentence.

Gearfag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Aug 2024 20:53:52 No.4348534 Report

Quoted By: >>4348601

>>4347980
>as an F5 owner I can tell you that lugging that goddamn boat anchor around sucks
as a D5 + 200-400VR handholder I can tell you that lugging that goddamn boat anchor around will make you >>>/fit/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2024 02:34:34 No.4348599 Report

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>>4340427
>The F100 likely has a CFn for that.
It doesn't, it also was a service-only change in firmware. I wish it did have that as an option, but then it's like the smallest inconvenience there could be.
As a counterpoint, if you shoot a lot of rolls of the same stock, with the leader pulled in you won't accidentally shoot the same roll twice.

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Sugar !egyYvoBZV2 Fri 16 Aug 2024 02:39:13 No.4348601 Report

Quoted By: >>4348609

>>4348534

That's cute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Aug 2024 03:39:40 No.4348609 Report

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>>4348601
The RB67 with lens is over a kilogram lighter than the DSLR combo, not to mention easier to use as it's more compact than a huge telescoping telephoto.

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