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Pentax 17

Anonymous Thu 12 Sep 2024 21:33:13 No.4359387 View View Reply Original Report

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Convince me NOT to get one.
Hard mode: no bitching about the price allowed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Sep 2024 21:36:14 No.4359391 Report

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Posting in a paid shill thread

Buy an ad ricoh

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Anonymous Thu 12 Sep 2024 21:38:34 No.4359393 Report

Quoted By: >>4359396 >>4359432 >>4359594 >>4359974 >>4360384 >>4360809 >>4363614 >>4369664 >>4369971

>>4359387
This exists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Sep 2024 21:43:26 No.4359396 Report

Quoted By: >>4359400

>>4359393
It's nice and all, but it isn't a half-frame. (And even though I said not to bitch about the pricing, this one's a bit steep for my wallet.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Sep 2024 21:48:00 No.4359400 Report

Quoted By: >>4359605 >>4359713

>>4359396
But why would you want a half-frame?
The lenses on half-frame cameras are always going to be worse than on a full-frame. You lose half the resolution. And labs will more often than not charge you to scan 72 frames individually rather than in diptych mode. And it's also absolutely awful to scan 2-in-1 when people request it because people are retarded and don't understand that shooting two completely different scenes with different exposures one after the other is going to leave you with an awful result as the scanner tries to compensate for both.

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Anonymous Thu 12 Sep 2024 22:11:03 No.4359410 Report

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>>4359387
Fuck you. I don't give to shits what you are doing

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Anonymous Thu 12 Sep 2024 22:13:13 No.4359411 Report

Quoted By: >>4359429

>>4359387
>I want half the film resolution and to have to still shoot with a big heavy camera and frame everything in portrait.

That's just a half measure to a Lomomatic. Just go all the way and get a Lomomatic.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 12 Sep 2024 22:18:44 No.4359415 Report

Quoted By: >>4368880

>>4359387
I actually own it. It’s very nice if a bit overpriced for what it is, but at the end of the day it’s a half frame camera and the format is inherently shit. It’s like having the nicest buttplug, you know, at the end of the day it’s still gonna fuck you in the ass. Not great. And Pentax made some weird decisions in pursuit of the zoomer/instagram market that make using the thing an exercise in frustration. It is fully capable of manual metering and autofocus (the lens is already motorized! Bokeh mode lel) but they just didn’t add those things because it needs to be a snapshitter for the bug women who are the target market. Real love hate kind of device, but I can appreciate a new film camera that’s at least trying to be more than a barely-reusable disposable thing. But Using my Konica auto-reflex is an immensely superior experience for shooting half frame.

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Anonymous Thu 12 Sep 2024 22:34:15 No.4359429 Report

Quoted By: >>4359461

>>4359411
>110
Bruh. Should have gone for this lomoKINO instead.
captcha: ASS4

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Sep 2024 22:39:48 No.4359432 Report

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>>4359393
>35mm

They had one job.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Sep 2024 23:16:06 No.4359437 Report

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>>4359387
price? just look how ass ugly it is. If you think otherwise, you're a lost cause, just buy it then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2024 00:02:30 No.4359447 Report

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>>4359387
Would be interesting to see how many Pentax has sold. Many who harp on about it are social media influencers who got a free copy.
I already have a Konica Eye. Half frame is kinda boring.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2024 00:03:46 No.4359449 Report

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>>4359387
You can find used pentax cameras that give you proper 35mm for way less bundled with good optics. Also these will flood the used market once the novelty wears off which is soon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2024 00:38:33 No.4359456 Report

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>>4359387
Because the Chaika already exists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2024 00:47:18 No.4359461 Report

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>>4359429
That's actually not a bad idea

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2024 01:55:05 No.4359472 Report

Quoted By: >>4368432

Get a Kyocera Samurai X3.0 instead. They made the GOAT Contax cameras after all and the design just looks cool. It has a great zoom range too unlike the Pentax.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2024 06:50:39 No.4359594 Report

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>>4359393
the camera everyone wanted but shitty ergo and build quality

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2024 07:43:03 No.4359605 Report

Quoted By: >>4369014

>>4359400

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2024 08:58:21 No.4359612 Report

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>>4359387
Find an Olympus Pen EE2 or 3 (for the better light sensor)
Find one sold with a cap to make sure the cell is in good condition, but most of them have held up the test of time, when stored properly

The lens is awesome, it'll be smaller then the Pentax 17, the lightmeter works without a battery, you can select your aperture manually if you want

Only 2 speeds and the camera chooses the best one for the exposure, I've never had a too badly motion blurred shot however

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2024 11:27:29 No.4359631 Report

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new slr when

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2024 16:34:04 No.4359713 Report

Quoted By: >>4360501

>>4359400
>And labs will more often than not charge you to scan 72 frames individually rather than in diptych mode
Development + scan = 21€. Same as a full-frame. And no, it isn't some SD scan either. I just got confirmation from the lab.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2024 16:39:05 No.4359714 Report

Quoted By: >>4359936

CHAIKA STRONK

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Sep 2024 06:23:38 No.4359936 Report

Quoted By: >>4359938 >>4360070

>>4359714
Every single one that I've held smelled like moldy basement

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Sep 2024 06:25:49 No.4359938 Report

Quoted By: >>4360070

>>4359936
I kind of like the smell desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Sep 2024 08:45:37 No.4359974 Report

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>>4359393
>soft as a pillow wide open
No thank you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Sep 2024 13:38:59 No.4360070 Report

Quoted By: >>4360222 >>4360244 >>4363638 >>4368387

>>4359936
>>4359938
It is absurd how consistent this smell is across all old eastern european photography equipment

I honestly wonder; maybe it's the glue they used?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Sep 2024 21:44:00 No.4360222 Report

Quoted By: >>4360244

>>4360070
Its the oil in the lens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Sep 2024 00:31:09 No.4360244 Report

Quoted By: >>4369995

>>4360070
>>4360222
The same smell on all Japanese imports. It's the humidity, but the difference is that almost all Japanese imports smell like cigarettes too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Sep 2024 12:26:01 No.4360384 Report

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>>4359393
OP btfo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Sep 2024 22:29:50 No.4360501 Report

Quoted By: >>4360506 >>4360787

>>4359713
>Development + scan = 21€
half litre bottle of rodinal is 15eur and you can develop 100 rolls of 135 film with it, cheap Fomafix fixer will do you 5 eur, for stop bath use water or a tablespoon of vinegar diluted in 1 litre of water. Paterson spiral tank is 20 eur.
For scanning buy some old CCD scanner like epson 4490 for 50 - 60 eur.
With cost of 4 -5 rolls developed with scan you now have setup to develop 100.
If color is your thing two bath Cinestil C-41 will do you 60 eur and you can do 20 rolls, some say more but I've never tried it.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Sep 2024 23:12:17 No.4360506 Report

Quoted By: >>4360507 >>4360510 >>4360565 >>4360616

>>4360501
>>4360501
Rodinal and half frame is a look you have to know you’re gonna like, I don’t know if I’d recommend it as a generic one size fits all option. The frame size is too small imo for the grain acutance it gives you. I like the look, but I don’t know if everyone would.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Sep 2024 23:15:21 No.4360507 Report

Quoted By: >>4360510 >>4360616

>>4360506
well i'm not sure if acutance is the right word, but it makes the grain very obvious and stand out.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 15 Sep 2024 23:19:27 No.4360510 Report

Quoted By: >>4360616

>>4360506
>>4360507
its a look though if nothing else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2024 01:58:38 No.4360565 Report

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>>4360506
That's true, I like it, most probably might not, but then xtol powder is not that expansive either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2024 04:12:59 No.4360616 Report

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>>4360510
>>4360507
>>4360506
Man, the thumbnails really show those streaks from stand development lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2024 15:15:30 No.4360753 Report

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>non interchangeable lens
using vintage lenses is half the fun

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2024 17:05:47 No.4360787 Report

Quoted By: >>4360835

>>4360501
Thanks anon, I'm saving this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2024 17:51:10 No.4360809 Report

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>>4359393
Too bad the pictures from this are so fucking horrible.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2024 18:55:06 No.4360835 Report

Quoted By: >>4360841

>>4360787
Don't.

This defeats the purpose of shooting film. The development quality is atrocious and on top you're scanning with a shitty ccd scanner.

You'd have better quality with a point and shoot from 2003 or using your phone and slapping a filter on top.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2024 19:01:37 No.4360841 Report

Quoted By: >>4360847

>>4360835
>This defeats the purpose of shooting film.
What?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2024 19:06:29 No.4360847 Report

Quoted By: >>4360854

>>4360841
The development quality is atrocious and on top you're scanning with a shitty ccd scanner.

You'd have better quality with a point and shoot from 2003 or using your phone and slapping a filter on top.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2024 19:21:10 No.4360854 Report

Quoted By: >>4360881

>>4360847
>The development quality is atrocious and on top you're scanning with a shitty ccd scanner.

you mean, kino?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Sep 2024 20:14:58 No.4360881 Report

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>>4360854
Instagram filters are not kino

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Sep 2024 20:47:56 No.4363262 Report

Quoted By: >>4363266

So what I'm getting from this thread is that I should buy it, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Sep 2024 20:49:45 No.4363266 Report

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>>4363262
I own it. I don’t hate it and I will keep it but I would not buy again. It’s like a solid c+ type camera imo. But I like the idea of a new film camera design and release so partly why I’m keeping it. The few pics above with the ordinal streaks are mine

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2024 11:29:45 No.4363614 Report

Quoted By: >>4363629

>>4359393
I don't understand how they thought it was ok to make it so fat
new technology is supposed to mean smaller isn't it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2024 14:02:40 No.4363629 Report

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>>4363614
Damn. You could murder someone with this.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2024 14:48:38 No.4363638 Report

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>>4360070
>It is absurd how consistent this smell is across all old eastern european photography equipment
If thing was manufactured 50-70 years ago and being sold just now, you can be sure it was stored in the ГAPAЖ or in the БAЛКOH. Neither of these is good for equipment. The smell you are talking about is bouquet of mold, old furs, naphtalene, gasoline, rat's shit, old books, dead pigeon and cigarettes. Notes of leaked sour juice from fermented tomatoes is optional but highly likely present too.

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Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2024 06:35:19 No.4368376 Report

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>>4359387
Get a samurai, decent lens on a half frame. The AF an not manual nature might not be ideal, but its a great camera

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2024 06:47:52 No.4368377 Report

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>It has a 37mm focal length
You're welcome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2024 07:20:27 No.4368386 Report

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>>4359387
>half frame
>the m43 of the film world
why would you get this over any other good film camera? it's not like there's any difference in image quality with film camera bodies

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2024 07:22:07 No.4368387 Report

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>>4360070
kek you're right. I've got an old Zorki4 here (got it from my commie uncle back in the 1980s) and it too smells like moldy basement. even though I keep it in our living room the smell won't go away (it's only noticeable when you open the film compartment or sniff test the camera)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2024 08:16:47 No.4368392 Report

Quoted By: >>4368399 >>4368880

Test one and see for yourself. It's not for everyone but it's fucking good. There's a video of a guy taking it apart and the camera is really well built.
Trolls aside those complaining about the focal length or recommending a samurai are spergs or on a high dose of copium.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2024 08:55:29 No.4368399 Report

Quoted By: >>4368400

>>4368392
>but it's fucking good
This sentence is how you know a paid shill posted this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2024 09:16:39 No.4368400 Report

Quoted By: >>4368402

>>4368399
Holy fuck this place is hell on earth. I just own one bought and paid for by me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2024 09:32:02 No.4368402 Report

Quoted By: >>4370013

>>4368400
>bought and paid for by me
I refuse to believe anyone would be that retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Oct 2024 13:06:05 No.4368432 Report

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>>4359472
I have one of those and it's so funky I don't recommend it to anyone, everyone's always tripped it's an actual film camera, it's kinda weird to hold, focus is ass for the most part.

Pics are sharp, flash is good, but it's just so funky, I just bought 2 other film cameras so I can stop using it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2024 03:10:36 No.4368880 Report

Quoted By: >>4368993

>>4368392
i also own one >>4359415 and agree with it being a really solid well built feeling little thing. it certainly feels like a quality product, and some of the images i've gotten show the lens is great (gimped by the format unfortunately). But it just seems like a camera for no one when you really look at what it is. i guess pentax largely factored in the economy of film into deciding to make this thing because it would be frustrating to use for anyone wanting a more manual, capable camera, and it seems almost like it's too complex for the braindead zoomer market it feels like they thought they were aiming for. i just don't really get it. i feel like i like mine, but it puzzles me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2024 07:59:41 No.4368993 Report

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>>4368880
If you like it, does it matter why? Like I said it's not for everyone, but in the end whatever makes you go out and have fun shooting is a good camera

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2024 10:12:27 No.4369014 Report

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>>4359605

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Anonymous Sun 06 Oct 2024 07:32:08 No.4369664 Report

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>>4359393
this post didn't age well

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Oct 2024 04:55:40 No.4369971 Report

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>>4359393
>>4369842

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Oct 2024 08:07:23 No.4369995 Report

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>>4360244
Japanese stuff stops smelling after a while though
the boxes and the leather of the Soviet stuff seems eternal

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Oct 2024 11:52:42 No.4370013 Report

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>>4368402
kek poorfag

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 07 Oct 2024 19:02:55 No.4370180 Report

Quoted By: >>4370181 >>4370186

>>4370135

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Oct 2024 19:03:32 No.4370181 Report

Quoted By: >>4370188

>>4370180
PENTAX NUMBAH ONE

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Oct 2024 19:08:30 No.4370186 Report

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>>4370180
>not our problem and kindly go fuck yourself
>much love,
>Rollei
Damn.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Oct 2024 19:11:01 No.4370188 Report

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>>4370181
Japan destroying China yet another time. The Pentax 17's success is almost a war crime

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Oct 2024 19:16:30 No.4370194 Report

Quoted By: >>4370208 >>4370214 >>4370797

>>4359387
I just bought a used F65 for 25 USD
>Autofocus
>Autometering
>Compatible with AF-D, AF-S and VR
>PSAM
>Automatic windup and rollup
>3fps, 1/2000 s
>Live LCD display
>TTL
Twentyfive bucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Oct 2024 19:28:59 No.4370208 Report

Quoted By: >>4370260

>>4370194
>no bokeh mode

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Oct 2024 19:33:37 No.4370214 Report

Quoted By: >>4371136

>>4370194
And if my grandma had two wheels she would've been a bike

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Oct 2024 20:39:10 No.4370260 Report

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>>4370208
True. It's over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2024 19:04:05 No.4370794 Report

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>>4359387
it would be cool of they made a Pentax 24 (square) O_O

/\nonymous

/\nonymous Tue 08 Oct 2024 19:10:17 No.4370797 Report

Quoted By: >>4370806

>>4370194
Get the grip so you can use AAs instead of retard batteries. Also there's no DoF Preview which is nice to have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2024 19:23:27 No.4370806 Report

Quoted By: >>4370822

>>4370797
>Get the grip so you can use AAs instead of retard batteries
I did - It was included!

>Also there's no DoF Preview
And only one control wheel
You have to scroll through the autofocus points, and they don't even light up in the viewfinder
And the viewfinde ris TINY
And it doesn't let you switch between AF-S and AF-C
But all that aside, it basically works like my DSLR and I'm more than happy with the purchase.
Looking forward to take it out and shoot a roll now.

/\nonymous

/\nonymous Tue 08 Oct 2024 19:42:19 No.4370822 Report

Quoted By: >>4370826

>>4370806
Good, I had a lot of fun with mine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2024 19:44:40 No.4370826 Report

Quoted By: >>4370847

>>4370822
Did you end up upgrading to an F80 or F100? F6?
Or did you just stop shooting film?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2024 20:05:03 No.4370847 Report

Quoted By: >>4370855

>>4370826
Went from F65 to D90, then through several more DX bodies to FX. Never stopped shooting film, just slowed down a lot... like, 1 roll per year if that. Used mostly the F65 but also K1000. But I'm on my 7th roll this year with an F5.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Oct 2024 20:20:27 No.4370855 Report

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>>4370847
Oh, I see.
I have been on a D800 for a decade and now I'm trying film for the first time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Oct 2024 07:55:58 No.4371136 Report

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>>4370214
anon, i... your grandma was the bike

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Oct 2024 21:04:39 No.4371545 Report

Quoted By: >>4371546 >>4371575

>>4359387
>have to guess focus
>half-frame
>fixed lens
Can't really help you if you want that piece of trash, there must be something wrong with you

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Oct 2024 21:07:38 No.4371546 Report

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>>4371545
skill issues

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Oct 2024 22:07:36 No.4371575 Report

Quoted By: >>4374454 >>4374466

>>4371545
Get good or get the fuck out

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2024 07:57:39 No.4374454 Report

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>>4371575
>Get good or get the fuck out
Then why is your ass still here

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2024 08:25:18 No.4374466 Report

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>>4371575
>95% if a dead board leaves and makes it even deader

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