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Gear recommendation

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2024 14:16:24 No.4383507 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>4383508 >>4383548 >>4384880

Should I get rid of this old gear?
It's a Canon 5D mark II.

What other camera or brand should I be looking for?
Is Sony A7IV any good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2024 14:21:28 No.4383508 Report

Quoted By: >>4383509

>>4383507
Depends what you're shooting. I find the 5D mark 2 to be fairly good, but it has its limitations, mainly pulling detail from shadows. If you're not shooting moving stuff at night then I would just use it. The 17-40mm is good, the other two lenses are just fine. Pretty good IQ but nothing special. Could probably swap them out for some primes that are more suited to whatever it is you shoot. If you really need zooms go for the f/2.8 ones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2024 14:28:14 No.4383509 Report

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>>4383508
Well, I currently shoot as a hobbyist, but I aim to eventually become a professional.
IQ is not a necessity right now, but as you've stated, my current gear struggles with pulling details from low-light shots and shadows.
AF also feels kinda unreliable sometimes, when I attempt some panning or try wildlife, or even just people walking.

I've tried a bunch o mirrorless cameras, and the flexibility in post, plus the quality in the pixels was much higher!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2024 14:46:17 No.4383514 Report

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I have a 5dmkii with the 24-70 2,8 lens too I was looking at selling recently, but when I saw what they go for I decided to just keep it. Not worth the hassle of selling it for how little it's worth now. I know it's old, but it's still weird to me seeing that price when I know how much it cost way back when I bought it.

It still takes great images though. So maybe just keep your favourite lens and sell the other two off if you want to sell some of it. You're not going to get much for the camera itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2024 15:46:17 No.4383523 Report

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Is this thread an ad?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2024 16:05:51 No.4383529 Report

Quoted By: >>4383536 >>4383547

Wait to buy an a7iv. The a7v comes out early next year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2024 16:20:03 No.4383536 Report

Quoted By: >>4383543

>>4383529
Is this post an ad?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2024 16:27:21 No.4383543 Report

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>>4383536
No. I’m telling you to buy snoyboys barely used kit. Not to buy the a7v and actually give sony money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2024 16:32:44 No.4383547 Report

Quoted By: >>4383560

>>4383529
Or just get the A7iii when the a7v comes. Not losing much in terms of image quality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2024 16:32:54 No.4383548 Report

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>>4383507
Buy a 1V

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2024 16:53:01 No.4383560 Report

Quoted By: >>4383562

>>4383547
>implying the a7iii will get cheaper

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2024 16:54:36 No.4383562 Report

Quoted By: >>4383567

>>4383560
Fair point. I'd recommend the Panny S5 original, but since it's lacking the phase detect AF it might suck to adapt DSLR lenses on that. Maybe A7ii would be good enough for OP?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2024 16:59:04 No.4383567 Report

Quoted By: >>4383571

>>4383562
Neither. Z6II or pick up a ZF since used prices are heading towards $1500 and below. Better AF, color, and lenses vs panasonic. Better build, color, and ergos vs sony. The lenses vs sony are better and bigger in the midrange, as bad but cheaper in the bottom tier, and there is no prosumer tier like the f1.4 GMs, its just straight to pro. But, you get a mediocre pancake!

On the other hand canon goes from consumer grade junk, i mean sovl, to ultrasharp flawless RF L(uxury) lenses with no intermediate so

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2024 17:02:32 No.4383571 Report

Quoted By: >>4383575

>>4383567
>Better AF
You sure about that? Panasonic phase detect AF has gotten really good.

Otherwise I'd agree with you, on the value proposition. If OP has 1,5k$ to spend I can't think of a much better camera than Z6II (or the ZF, but ergo).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2024 17:05:37 No.4383575 Report

Quoted By: >>4383577 >>4383581

>>4383571
Panasonic PDAF is on par with the first z6. There is no excuse for panasonics oversized, bad ergos, underperforming, and notoriously unreliable junk outside of the ultra low budget prosumer videography sphere. Nikon on the other hand makes cameras for photographers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2024 17:09:18 No.4383577 Report

Quoted By: >>4383581

>>4383575
trve. if panasnoy is up for consideration just get a cheap z5 so you can invest in nikon’s superior lenses. what does L mount have, sigma? lol. Z mount can also adapt leica M with focus confirmation (ZF) and no corner color shifts or sharpness loss (like what happens on sony’s overly thick IR filter). L mount ironically can’t.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2024 17:20:04 No.4383581 Report

Quoted By: >>4383584

>>4383575
>>4383577
Samefagging much?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2024 17:25:52 No.4383584 Report

Quoted By: >>4383589

>>4383581
anything to beat down panasonic’s paid marketers here. anyways, /p/eople

please do yourselves a favor, buy used nikon gear. Panasonics marketing team is here 24/7 saying please buy s5 new on amazon, please do g9ii tradein deal, s5ii bundle is on sale at b&h, but unless you are broke as fuck and NEED certain codecs and FF video they are simply bad cameras compared to better made, more capable, more ergonomic Nikon kit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2024 17:36:09 No.4383589 Report

Quoted By: >>4383600

>>4383584
>anyways /p/eople
ew. cringe.

I agreed with you on the Z6ii as the better value camera at that price point, and pointed out you're wrong about panasonic AF. As a very sane, and proper response, you start sperging and samefagging.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2024 19:08:53 No.4383600 Report

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>>4383589
No one should even give panasonic a chance. Imagine getting burned with a broken camera 2 years later or an s5 that drains its battery while off. Not worth it. Even sony is more reliable.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 04:51:54 No.4384717 Report

Quoted By: >>4384721 >>4384722

What happened /p/? It has been almost a decade, and it seems like higher iso apsc sensor tech froze. Has it plateaued?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 05:00:09 No.4384721 Report

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>>4384717
Sony let fuji and nikon borrow the nice DX sensors (xh2s, d7200) but didnt want to make their crop cameras better and lose full frame hobbyfags

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 05:01:29 No.4384722 Report

Quoted By: >>4384734

>>4384717
Yes. A decade later and all we have are good ibis, better video, and nice af

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 05:09:58 No.4384725 Report

Quoted By: >>4384757

It would be helpful to know what you shoot. I’m using a 5D iii (very similar to you only a tad better auto focus) for all my studio work it has over 200k shot on it and it just keeps going. It’s been tethered to the same iMac for almost 10 years and is used almost daily.

If you’re doing events, weddings, landscapes you probably want better AF and DR but for lots of paid work the 5D is still a great tool for the job.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 06:44:39 No.4384734 Report

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>>4384722
>good ibis
gimmick feature, not useful to photography
>better video
useless
>nice af
af has been good enough since 2013

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 06:50:04 No.4384735 Report

Quoted By: >>4384738

Is the time now to get whatever gear we can, whether new or used before the china tariffs go though and prices skyrocket to unpurchasable levels?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 06:54:49 No.4384737 Report

Quoted By: >>4384760

Leave panasonic system NOW

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 06:55:05 No.4384738 Report

Quoted By: >>4384817

>>4384735
No? Most camera shit I've ever seen is made in Japan, Vietnam or the Philippines

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 09:09:37 No.4384757 Report

Quoted By: >>4384758 >>4384763

>>4384725
I'm currently a hobbyist, but I'm looking for a better camera to eventually use professionally. The 5Dii is amazing, but sometimes you need that clean image or better AF. Like, sometimes I do wildlife and night photography and the old sensor makes it difficult to edit on LR. The resulting photos are usually noisy and unsharp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 09:11:36 No.4384758 Report

Quoted By: >>4384762

>>4384757
>night photography and the old sensor makes it difficult to edit on LR. The resulting photos are usually noisy and unsharp.
use a tripod. I just saved you thousands of dollars. You're welcome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 09:15:07 No.4384760 Report

Quoted By: >>4384761

>>4384737
>leave panasonic
I bought the s9 new cause I wanted a good "does everything good enough." It's served me well enough this far

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 09:17:13 No.4384761 Report

Quoted By:

>>4384760
>"does everything good enough."
>s9
choose one

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 09:19:11 No.4384762 Report

Quoted By:

>>4384758
Yeah, but I do street photography a lot and a tripod isn't very practical.
There's something special about night photography without flash, so I don't want to limit myself to daytime.
I used to have an EOS R, which was fine but ended up selling it because the tracking AF was unreliable. Then I tried an R6ii and the difference is huge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 09:24:02 No.4384763 Report

Quoted By: >>4384765 >>4384855

>>4384757
With this mindset you won’t ever go pro your the issue not the gear I can get super clear images a night with a 5D lol. The 5D ii has about the same noise as a Fuji XPRO2 and that’s a famous street photography camera lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 09:25:42 No.4384765 Report

Quoted By: >>4384767

>>4384763
Bro, I never said I can't take night photos but the difference is there and you know it. Gear is relevant for some situations and types of photography, such as wildlife.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 09:30:41 No.4384767 Report

Quoted By: >>4384769

>>4384765
Idk you could get something newer, but I honestly don't think it's going to help that much for night photography. Maybe a stop or two at most. All your lenses are f/4, trying grabbing one of the f/2.8 lenses first or even getting a fast prime.

But honestly it sounds like you just want something new just because you want something new and if so that's fine, you don't need to justify it. Just as long as you're not going broke buying stuff. It's okay to experiment and try new cameras out just because it's fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 09:41:21 No.4384769 Report

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>>4384767
I've got a few primes, which I use at night, such as the EF 40 f/2.8, EF 50 f/1.8 and EF 100 f/2.8L.
It does the job, but perhaps I'm pixel peeping my photos too much...
I think you're right, I was looking for a new camera for the psychological effect of having no limitations gear wise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 13:06:41 No.4384817 Report

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>>4384738
My shitter Fuji is made in Indonesia. It now has a bleeding LCD screen and has erratic dials.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 15:48:27 No.4384855 Report

Quoted By: >>4384860

>>4384763
Yeah if you underexpose at night, outdoors, and basically take photos of the lights. That doesn’t work indoors or in places without lights and flash is stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 16:56:12 No.4384860 Report

Quoted By: >>4384870

>>4384855
Even the 5D classic is decent in low light it’s a skill issue
https://youtu.be/qQU5l5D5wLE?si=1kPUksDi0CiQqgrJ

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 17:38:24 No.4384870 Report

Quoted By: >>4384873 >>4384877

>>4384860
>”low light”
>low ISOs in brightly lit bug streets, blurry pedestrians
This is low light by film standards. Is the skill issue refusing to travel to some overly bright asian slop market and living somewhere decent, being a decent person, instead of a street photographer?

I don’t think you know what low light actually means for people who aren’t imitating 20th century leica owners 24/7. Low light is exclusive of good, purposeful photography. Low light is snapshits at ISO 25,600 1/250 because you’re doing dumb skateboard tricks with your friends at 9pm in a public park and phones keep fucking up the pictures
>uh kevin can you stand still right under a light please - i need you to do this because going over iso 3200 is a skill issue. i can show you some chinatown creep photography videos for reference if it helps.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 17:43:26 No.4384873 Report

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>>4384870
we dont actually use cameras as cameras here bud

we only take photos of rocks, leaves, and the backs of strangers heads. sometimes the sides. its art.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 18:06:36 No.4384877 Report

Quoted By: >>4384879

>>4384870
>Slop
>Decency
By your standards no one was decent before the 80's, and the fact the dude didn't get mogged is example of bugs just minding their own businesses.
Also agree that wasn't low-light

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 18:09:27 No.4384879 Report

Quoted By: >>4384882

>>4384877
Civility only goes up as time goes on. Street markets and walking areas are pretty primitive and easily harbor hidden problems like dog meat stalls and backdoor drug and human trafficking. Online markets and drone deliveries are cleaner, safer, and more effective and allow for trivial interception of illicit goods by police.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 18:16:41 No.4384880 Report

Quoted By: >>4384881

>>4383507
Upgrade to an RF body and use the EF adapter. Budget will dictate what you buy, but you don't need to replace those lenses. An R6 or R6ii will give you the same resolution (little more for R6ii) but sharper (weak AA filter) with more DR and far better high ISO. Plus all the cool new features like AF improvements and IBIS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 18:32:05 No.4384881 Report

Quoted By: >>4384887

>>4384880
>think of how much money you’ll save by buying a $2500 camera for your old junk lenses instead of selling your pile of ewaste for a fuji, a prime, and the kit lens!
>and then you can buy a $2500 new RF L zoom too!
Gearfags be like “let me tell you how to keep spending as much as possible”

ORRRRR stop pixel peeping and stop being a gear snob. Get a lightweight normal camera, a small prime, and a generally useful zoom.

Degearfag your life. You do not need more than a 35mm f2.8 and 24-70 f4 to take good photos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 18:32:30 No.4384882 Report

Quoted By: >>4384884

>>4384879
>Civility only goes up as time goes on.
>The police
Touch grass home boy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 18:46:03 No.4384884 Report

Quoted By: >>4384895

>>4384882
Sorry your friends daquan apartmente and tyler-joe traylor got shot or beat up for refusing to show ID or comply with basic directions because they either felt bad about doing what they were told or it they had a warrant out for selling meth lol, but yes law and order are good things. I would actually be in favor of street photography if they helped solve crimes but they usually just shoot backs of heads.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 19:00:35 No.4384887 Report

Quoted By: >>4384888

>>4384881
>angry poorfag is angry

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 19:03:08 No.4384888 Report

Quoted By: >>4384892 >>4384942

>>4384887
>you’re a poorfag, he says, as he spends well within the average credit limit
Canonikony blobs are not status symbols. Get a leica SL blob if you wanna pull that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 19:13:27 No.4384892 Report

Quoted By: >>4384959

>>4384888
personally i dont take “poorfag” from someone who shops like they can only have one camera system.

a rich man has a hasselblad 907x for fun, a leica also for fun, a nikon flagship for work, and a collection of film SLRs.
a poor man has a canon flagship because its a jack of all trades and master of none. a crew cab, short bed pickup truck for the people who cant afford a summer car, winter car, and work van. a mascot for poorly masked poverty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 19:20:13 No.4384895 Report

Quoted By:

>>4384884
Write in english next time nigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 21:29:20 No.4384942 Report

Quoted By: >>4384947

>>4384888
>reeeee don't use your existing excellent glass
>sell it all and buy an apsc or mft with one prime!
This was literally you. He already has good equipment, he asked about upgrading, the only thing he might want to upgrade is the body. He would be stupid to ditch the glass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 21:40:08 No.4384947 Report

Quoted By: >>4385093

>>4384942
>he has
Ancient boomer blob ewaste that doesnt hold up to a fuji xt3 with the kit zoom. Only good for gross shit like wedding photography. Wedding photographers section 179 their entire kit and get it for free so if he were one, he wouldn’t be asking.

This is the perfect opportunity to leave blobby wedding cameras behind. Compacts now exceed the quality of a 5div+24-70 f2.8 L.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 21:50:46 No.4384959 Report

Quoted By: >>4384985 >>4385053

>>4384892
why would a rich man need a "work" camera tho?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2024 22:34:18 No.4384985 Report

Quoted By:

>>4384959
rich people buy "work" stuff so they can work one day a year and pretend they do things other than underage hookers and drugs

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2024 01:53:09 No.4385053 Report

Quoted By:

>>4384959
To pretend to be normal and advertise his personal brand

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2024 02:21:08 No.4385061 Report

Quoted By:

>the quality in the pixels was much higher!
Obvious troll is obvious. Still not obvious enough for the gearfags of /p/ evidently.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2024 06:25:33 No.4385093 Report

Quoted By: >>4385719

>>4384947
>fuji apsc kit zoom is better than full frame L glass
Usually this level of delusion requires mft.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2024 15:40:34 No.4385693 Report

Quoted By: >>4385711 >>4385715

My main camera is the GFX50SII. I'm thinking now wether I should get a b-roll camera that I bring everyday for not so serious photography. I can't decide between the X100VI or the Nikon Zf with 40mm (gonna be glued on the body). The Fuji is smaller and more light but I'm afraid I won't enjoy the apsc IQ. Nikon Zf looks damn cool and I love the focal length of the 40mm lens. And sample pictures look great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2024 17:08:19 No.4385711 Report

Quoted By: >>4385740

>>4385693
I functionally replaced my 50R with a Zf and haven't looked back
but I also still use my other Fuji's more often
get the Zf

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2024 17:14:27 No.4385715 Report

Quoted By: >>4385740

>>4385693
The gfx50 is just fat full frame thanks to the ancient shit sensor, you might as well sell it, or shoot nothing else and remain ignorant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2024 17:20:51 No.4385719 Report

Quoted By:

>>4385093
The ancient, 1st edition 24-70 l is actually pretty soft.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2024 18:07:03 No.4385740 Report

Quoted By: >>4385766

>>4385711
>>4385715
The GFX is my favorite camera. Love the incredible detail in prints and for my taste it resolved better than my previous A7IV.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2024 19:19:16 No.4385766 Report

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>>4385740
Of course its 50mp, so it will definitely be better than 33mp and very close to 61mp if the lenses are keeping up for all cameras, but sensor performance is the same as modern full frame. It can merely resolve as well with a lower quality lens.

Dont touch a zf or a z7ii if you want it to stay your favorite.

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