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Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2024 01:01:46 No.4391187 View View Reply Original Report

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Wha'ts the best way to denoise?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2024 01:19:50 No.4391189 Report

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Take the photo again in good light

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Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2024 01:36:54 No.4391194 Report

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ENHANCE

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Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2024 03:08:46 No.4391204 Report

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>>4391187
you slide the sliders to the right

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2024 03:21:52 No.4391209 Report

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>>4391187
use ai noise reduction at different settings and export, then make stack of those for maximum noise reduction.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2024 04:15:23 No.4391226 Report

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>>4391187
Export at 50% resolution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2024 04:20:28 No.4391228 Report

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>>4391187
Topaz raw denoise only on low (less than 30)
Downscale 50% and tweak pre export and post export sharpening (this is important) to fit the photo
Do not use an overly sharp downscale algo like lanczos

You can expect very nice 8x12s from a 24mp ff at iso 6400-12800 this way

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2024 07:36:06 No.4391250 Report

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>>4391187
Dunno, but I like darktable's profiled denoise. Doesn't blur at all, just removes the ugly color noise pixels.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2024 09:22:44 No.4391256 Report

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>>4391189
underappreciated post

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2024 09:48:18 No.4391257 Report

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>>4391187

maybe half_size, maybe amaze with enhance, maybe scale to half size it is difficult to guess with out raw image file

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2024 10:43:54 No.4391261 Report

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>>4391250
based DT enjoyer

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Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2024 11:28:26 No.4391262 Report

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Just embrace the noise. Add more if there isn't enough.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2024 13:14:58 No.4391278 Report

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>>4391187

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Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2024 20:53:09 No.4391370 Report

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>>4391187
Denoise with Topaz, then re-noise in camera raw at a smaller size / reduced roughness. You heard me. You want less noise, not zero noise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2024 02:06:50 No.4391416 Report

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Lightroom's built-in AI denoiser is excellent, just use that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2024 09:52:49 No.4391462 Report

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>>4391187
Duplicate 4 times
Move each copy 1 pixel to the left, right, top, and bottom
Photomerge

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Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2024 10:05:49 No.4391464 Report

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>>4391416
>AI

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Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2024 10:28:09 No.4391467 Report

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>>4391262
yeah, blur the image a bit and add your own noise on top

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Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2024 11:10:28 No.4391473 Report

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>>4391416
>>4391464
I just tried it. Works like magic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2024 11:24:00 No.4391475 Report

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>>4391187
Denoise the shit out of chrominance and leave luminance as noisy as it is.
>>4391189
This obviously is the best way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2024 12:21:38 No.4391479 Report

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>>4391473
tbqh it does, but I find it annoying that it has to make a full copy of the image, it takes a lot of space

NPHT !!k0AhjBTi6l+

NPHT !!k0AhjBTi6l+ Thu 12 Dec 2024 17:08:12 No.4391554 Report

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>>4391464
It just removes the ugly red and green pixels and uses machine learning to determine which colors to replace them with.

I usually set the level at five or six percent, the image remains noisy, but the remaining noise looks like grain and it's fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2024 19:01:53 No.4391580 Report

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>>4391473
i mean you can do that too.
But id rather just try to get my iso and exposure right before i even think about doing it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2024 21:49:32 No.4391651 Report

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>>4391187

ufraw has thing called color smoothing cannot remember if it has like 0,1,2,3 levels

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Anonymous Fri 13 Dec 2024 21:30:48 No.4391851 Report

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>>4391187
lower iso

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2024 15:05:28 No.4393047 Report

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>>4391473
Looks like shit.

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BurtGummer !!1cdp+8vuoOY Wed 18 Dec 2024 15:09:52 No.4393048 Report

Quoted By: >>4393094 >>4393124

Adobe need to wake up and work on their core features because sharpening and noise reduction in Photoshop are about 15 years out of date at this point.

I'd like to see some development of Ai features for panorama stitching and detail recovery too. They're trying, but they're sloooow...

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2024 19:11:30 No.4393094 Report

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>>4393048
The news gladly puts up photos with adobes trademark super sharpened grain and total loss of color detail so adobe probably doesnt care and would rather monetize every mouse click instead

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Anonymous Wed 18 Dec 2024 23:50:45 No.4393124 Report

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>>4393048
They're doing nothing for the last ten years. There has not been a new feature that I really needed in Photoshop or Lightroom. I don't use it for Raw editting, so I'm stuck on a version that has a blond lady as splash up screen.

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Anonymous Thu 19 Dec 2024 00:59:47 No.4393131 Report

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How many Adobe engineers are working on LR and PS? Must be the comfiest job in the world.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Dec 2024 01:36:13 No.4393641 Report

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>>4393131
> Must be the comfiest job in the world.
It's probably the opposite, having worked in quite a few Fortune Top 500 corporations the most miserable and stressful jobs are when you don't really have anything to do (because for example product owners cannot decide on features and you do releases with bug fixes only), but you still have to report, most often to the same morons, what have you done in last two weeks, month and so on.

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Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2025 20:59:21 No.4396712 Report

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>>4391187
lower iso

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Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2025 21:51:25 No.4396729 Report

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>>4393124
Most adobe users are following a dogma they learned in a school that had a contract with adobe.

Do raw adjustments in lightroom. Save as tiff. Do color and detail adjustments in photoshop.

Adobes entire business model assumes masses of baby ducks created by their connections with educational institutions. Like microsoft. They dont improve because people just think adobe is the only real software suite for photo editing.

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Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2025 22:31:31 No.4396738 Report

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>>4396712
will either do nothing to your snr (if sensor is iso invariant) or increase noise

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Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2025 22:36:20 No.4396740 Report

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>>4391189
truth nuke

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Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2025 23:09:10 No.4396748 Report

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>>4391479
Dxo Photolab works better/faster without making a copy, just werks like regular denoise.

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Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2025 23:13:02 No.4396749 Report

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>>4396729
>Do raw adjustments in lightroom. Save as tiff. Do color and detail adjustments in photoshop.

Why not just do RAW adjustments in Photoshop? Isn't Lightroom just a cut down version of photoshop?

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Anonymous Fri 03 Jan 2025 23:17:20 No.4396750 Report

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>>4396749
If Adobe improved file management in Photoshop there would be no need for Lightroom at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jan 2025 08:16:24 No.4397818 Report

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>>4391473
Looks moderately smeary, but given how noisy the original image is I guess it's still fairly impressive and might be a legit good option in less noisy images to begin with where it wouldn't need to be as intensive

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jan 2025 21:53:47 No.4400266 Report

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>>4391187
Just the plain old photoshop one or bust. Sorry but it's just true

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Anonymous Mon 20 Jan 2025 08:00:50 No.4400550 Report

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>>4391250
I also really like profiled denoise. Removes most of the noise without giving the AIslop look.

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