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Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2025 04:24:11 No.4404221 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>4404223 >>4404227 >>4404323 >>4404545 >>4404581 >>4404609 >>4404640 >>4404869

The great debate
>muh primes
[spoiler:lit]I actually only own primes, but IMO unless you are doing something where you need a focal length you can't get in a pro level zoom, like 400mm or 600mm
pro level zooms > consumer level primes >garbage > consumer level zooms > why are you using a "pro level" prime you weird retard?[/spoiler:lit]

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2025 04:28:01 No.4404222 Report

Quoted By: >>4404223

>You need to spend more on a bigger, slower lens because WHAT IF THE WEDDING CLIENT WANTS DIFFERENT FRAMING? You can't just have a nice prime lens and shoot portraiture, street, editorial, and landscapes however you want! You can't have consistent perspective! You need to cover all the bases to give the fat woman in a white dress her options! Wide shot compressed shot boom! I'll let them choose later from the pic time gallery!
Imagine being an event cucktographer

"Pro" (weddingfag) zooms are dumb as hell. Just get a couple of f4 zooms for the focal lengths you'd rarely use for more than a few shots and do everything else with the nicest, 3d poppiest primes you can afford.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2025 04:30:02 No.4404223 Report

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>>4404221
cringe
>>4404222
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2025 04:42:31 No.4404224 Report

Quoted By: >>4404226

I own the Canon RF 24-105 f/4 L lens and it is a godawful piece of shit.
When I'm shooting a wedding I'm picking a combo from a 35, 50, and 85 (all Sigma Art lenses made for EF btw). I'll gladly take older lenses that are larger and heavier over the turd that is the 24-105. Only reason I still have it is because it came as a kit lens for my camera, maybe I should sell it and make a little cash from it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2025 04:55:10 No.4404226 Report

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>>4404224
You wouldn't have said the same if you had the f2.8.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2025 04:55:28 No.4404227 Report

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>>4404221
>he watches youtube f-tier content about photography instead of taking photos
yikes...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2025 05:31:28 No.4404238 Report

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I like my 24-75

If anything because it forces me to shoot f2.8+ more rather than primes and blow the background out like a retard in every pic which I WILL DO because I am retarded and post on /p/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2025 09:42:11 No.4404323 Report

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>>4404221
35-150

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2025 11:21:03 No.4404331 Report

Quoted By: >>4406682

I personally am a prime shill. Get two primes ethier side of 50mm (i.e. 35/85mm) and be done forever. You'll have the best IQ per/$, minimal weight and fucking around, and can do it with non-retarded amounts of money. HOWEVER, zooms have their merits. Standard zooms are for boomers and travel snapshits.
Combining a wide/normal zoom with a telephoto prime, or vice versa; combining a telephoto zoom with a wide/normal prime is also a valid tactic.
For instance I either go (APS-C)
>24mm wide prime, 55-250mm telephoto zoom
OR
>10-18mm ultrawide zoom, 100mm telephoto prime

Constant aperture, pro level zooms are too fucking expensive and frankly can lose out on some areas because of how optically complicated some are to make.
Pro primes are meme worthy unless you're doing paid work, and even then in that case, do you really need the extra stop of DoF and light from a 50mm f/1.2?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2025 04:05:05 No.4404545 Report

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>>4404221
I hardly ever take off my RF 24-70. Only to plop on a pancake lens for lightweight setup.

24-70 is the first lens anyone should get for general photography.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2025 10:49:00 No.4404581 Report

Quoted By: >>4404630

>>4404221
>buy 24-105 f/4
>it's good enough for 90% of situations
>stop thinking about gear because I can't justify the cost of a marginal upgrade
GAS solved

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2025 13:22:38 No.4404609 Report

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>>4404221
Primes are fine since most stuff is done with multiple bodies. If you can only use one body for some reason, then 24-70 works great. Even for casual stuff though, I'd rather 2 bodies + 2 primes..

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2025 15:16:10 No.4404630 Report

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>>4404581
>but its a blob
>ew pedocam
>sell for cheap primes
>eventually switch to fuji
>lose virginity
>get a boyfriend
>start embracing your feminine side in the bedroom before making it universal
>sell ILC, buy x100vi and dated pns like xf10
>stop posting on /p/, start posting on fujixweekly and dpreview
>start taking estrogen
>need money for boob implants, nice shoes, and a fursuit
>switch to micro four thirds

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2025 16:49:47 No.4404640 Report

Quoted By: >>4404645

>>4404221
>canonikon, fujifags and microfourturds absolutely assblasted
Sony wins again baby

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2025 17:22:32 No.4404645 Report

Quoted By: >>4404652

>>4404640
>16-35 f4 g pz
>20mm f1.8, 24mm f1.4 gm, 35mm f1.4 gm
>40mm f2.5, 24mm f2.8
>tamron 20-40mm f2.8
>16-25 f2.8 G
>sigma’s fast full coverage fisheye
>perfect for adapting canon T/S lenses
All the smallest, sharpest, and very affordable
Sony E mount is the wide angle king, the ideal system for people that hate bokeh and compression

No crop sensor systems approach these. You get shit like huge f4 and f5.6-8 equivalents.

The only lens from another brand that comes close to being small, sharp, and cheap is nikon’s new 14-30 f4 (bigger and pretty bad on the often-used long end, also not an internal zoom so worse weather sealing than the new 16-35 f4)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2025 17:36:59 No.4404652 Report

Quoted By: >>4404660

>>4404645
>the ideal system for people that hate bokeh and compression
You say that as if Sony is lacking in the 50mm+ region. They've pretty much got everything covered, and anything they don't do there's plenty of third party options.

Just on dpreview, which will be lacking many third party lenses for which there are many more for FE:
>Canon RF - 68 lenses
>Nikon Z - 82 lenses
>L mount - 90 lenses
>Sony FE - 162 lenses

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2025 17:59:54 No.4404660 Report

Quoted By: >>4404671

>>4404652
Sony is lacking a good affordable first party fastish 50mm that isn’t the newest gm and a good 85mm that isn’t the newest gm. Canon and nikon have better short telephotos and better telephoto zooms overall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2025 19:13:34 No.4404671 Report

Quoted By: >>4404673

>>4404660
>Sony is lacking a good affordable first party fastish 50mm that isn’t the newest gm and a good 85mm that isn’t the newest gm
They have a 50mm f/1.8 and an 85mm f/1.8 that are pretty cheap, especially used, and the Zeiss 55mm.
>Canon and nikon have better short telephotos and better telephoto zooms overall.
At the high end, I doubt that. At the cheaper low end, that's what third party is for. You don't even get that with Canon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2025 19:25:59 No.4404673 Report

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>>4404671
All of those lenses suck so bad they might as well be $200 samyangs. The shitty sony lenses are also the cause of "snoy colors".
>i doubt it
Nikon has a 50mm f1.8 that’s as perfect as a G master and costs $500 used and one of the best 85mm f1.8s on earth. Canon’s portrait lenses are renowned for their rendering. Nikon’s 70-200, 100-400, and 180-600 mog snoy hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Feb 2025 06:03:13 No.4404869 Report

Quoted By: >>4404882 >>4406598

>>4404221
>The great debate
Not really. It's an interchangeable lens camera. You don't have to glue the lens on. You can shoot primes and zooms. A better debate is why do Americans feel the need to turn every product into a retarded false dichotomy? Is it because their education system is dogshit, because the CIA puts shit in their water, or because they all have nigger DNA? Surprisingly the answer is a combination of all three.

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Anonymous Sun 09 Feb 2025 06:40:36 No.4404882 Report

Quoted By: >>4406598

>>4404869
blame massachusetts

Our entire culture is founded on some massholes deciding to hate tea and start drinking coffee in protest of a tax

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Feb 2025 06:43:21 No.4404884 Report

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>Americans be like:
>The San Francisco Snoy Party
>Under command of Trump, Americans raided a ship and threw its entire shipment of digital cameras into the ocean. Shortly after, Trump signed an executive order declaring Kodak film the official photographic medium of the US Government.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2025 02:29:02 No.4406598 Report

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>>4404869
why do third worlders who haven't invented the toilet seethe so hard at the US, aka the place that owns the moon and is smarter than the rest of the world combined?
>>4404882
taxes are gay

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2025 07:10:29 No.4406682 Report

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>>4404331
>85mm
>minimal weight
I dunno about the cheap prime, but the pro rf85 is a fucking kilo, its a brick. When I put 28 pancake on my body its a fucking breath of relief after using pro glass.

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