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Anonymous Sat 17 Jan 2026 23:36:12 No.19704728 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>19705992 >>19706914 >>19707758 >>19707814 >>19710075 >>19710260 >>19710292 >>19712240

>bring in Raven in September 2000
>align him with Taz who is feuding with a pedo commentator
>within 2 weeks he's jobbing to Steve fucking Blackman and Road Dogg
wtf was the point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 02:10:27 No.19705907 Report

Quoted By: >>19706925

>>19704745
Vince gave a huge push to Ric Flair in 1991, who was the face of the NWA/WCW, and had him win the Royal Rumble and the World title twice. It only ended because Flair injured his ear, suffered from vertigo, and there were rumors he might have to retire (which is why he abruptly jobbed to Bret at a house show and their matches were so-so).

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 02:15:35 No.19705969 Report

Quoted By: >>19706853

>What about me? What about RAVEN?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 02:16:50 No.19705992 Report

Quoted By:

>>19704728
>still seething over Lawler 30 years later
Lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 03:27:08 No.19706832 Report

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>>19705342
thats what you expect from a guy trained by Jake The Snake

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 03:29:30 No.19706853 Report

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>>19705969
Whoa, is this real?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 03:35:27 No.19706914 Report

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>>19704728
allegedly when Vince first saw him in the halls, he yelled
>WHO THE HELL HIRED JOHNNY POLO BACK????

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 03:36:48 No.19706925 Report

Quoted By: >>19706978 >>19707246 >>19707530 >>19708671 >>19710123

>>19705907
>just gonna ignore putting Dusty Rhodes in bumblebee tights and giving him a black mammy as his girlfriend and booking his son as a crossdressing faggot
just bow out of the argument kid, you're out of your depth

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 03:41:19 No.19706964 Report

Quoted By: >>19707011

>>19704794
would you really put it past Vince to hire someone just so he could say that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 03:42:22 No.19706978 Report

Quoted By: >>19706988

>>19706925
>>just gonna ignore putting Dusty Rhodes in bumblebee tights and giving him a black mammy as his girlfriend and booking his son as a crossdressing faggot
All of this is dimes thoughever?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 03:43:34 No.19706988 Report

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>>19706978
it certifiably wasn't

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 03:46:49 No.19707011 Report

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>>19706964
In 2000 I would say no. It's one of the better years in WWE history and I'm not buying him giving 15 minutes of TV every week to anyone he truly hates. He got a little push shortly after and a WM match.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 03:48:32 No.19707024 Report

Quoted By: >>19707046

>>19704904
You mean Dusty, who was in several prominent feuds taking up large amounts of TV time versus some of the top stars in the company such as Ted Dibiase and Macho Man?
You think that's been buried?
I swear to God, wrestling fans are the stupidest people alive

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 03:52:24 No.19707046 Report

Quoted By: >>19707190

>>19707024
>You mean Dusty, who was in several prominent feuds taking up large amounts of TV time
You E-drones really are disgusting subhumans for the way you try to selectively twist history. You know that, right? That you're a disingenuous, piece of shit?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 03:57:25 No.19707085 Report

Quoted By: >>19707230 >>19707672 >>19708781

>>19704904
>>19705547
>>19705556
>>19705656
Dusty wearing polka dots pre-dates his WWF run

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 04:09:08 No.19707190 Report

Quoted By: >>19707203

>>19707046
vince took this subhuman obese blob and made him a star. he was too good to him

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 04:10:28 No.19707203 Report

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>>19707190
shut the fuck up, faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 04:14:38 No.19707230 Report

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>>19707085
It’s just fashionable dots? I don’t get the big deal. Never did. Like…it’s not that deep. Plain black trunks and cowboy boots weren’t gonna fly in New York for a top babyface in the late 80’s. Period.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 04:17:00 No.19707246 Report

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>>19706925
Goldust was dimes though, he and Kane were my favorites as a kid

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 05:08:47 No.19707530 Report

Quoted By: >>19707799 >>19707825

>>19706925
that black mammy was on tv because he talked black to her and must have liked her and pushed for her to be his manager. she was ugly as fuck but rhodes like her and thought she was dimes so he got her on tv. stop being a faggot and realize your hero dusty made poor decisions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 05:43:50 No.19707672 Report

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>>19707085
It fits him
Hes round,dots are round
Shouldve limited dots to just his pants or accesories tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 05:51:23 No.19707699 Report

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I liked him as Johnny Polo. Vince should have put him back in that gimmick and also get him to do some commentary

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 06:08:42 No.19707758 Report

Quoted By: >>19707806 >>19707831

>>19704728
I'm glad he's dying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 06:17:28 No.19707799 Report

Quoted By: >>19710058

>>19707530
>straight up making shit up
NTA but nice

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 06:18:31 No.19707806 Report

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>>19707758
Edgy….

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 06:19:41 No.19707814 Report

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>>19704728
Raven was important enough to be on the cover of the WCW game with the bigs, that is all you need to know

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 06:21:28 No.19707825 Report

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>>19707530
>source: Vince saw it in a dream
fuck off, retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 06:22:28 No.19707831 Report

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>>19707758
it's not gonna revitalize your career, Stevie

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 11:28:58 No.19708671 Report

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>>19706925
Sapphire was very over with the fans. Dusty even mentioned receiving heartbroken letters from fans when she turned heel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 12:25:29 No.19708781 Report

Quoted By:

>>19707085
hey stop that! youre supposed to agree with
>GRR VINCE BAAAAD!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 18:42:52 No.19710055 Report

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>>19705247
you don't seem to know what these terms even mean. lower midcarders don't get their own factions and win the us title off one of the most over guy in the company (ddp). raven was always treated as a significant guy in wcw. he was treated as lower midcard near the end of his wwe career.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 18:44:43 No.19710058 Report

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>>19707799
you don't like facts so you say i'm making stuff up. that is how you think? you're a bastard and i'd kill you if you ever came near me. you know shit about the industry and the bts stories. dust loved sapphier and thought she would elevate him to main event.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 18:50:31 No.19710075 Report

Quoted By: >>19710128

>>19704728
raven was always a jobber in vinces eyes so i dont know what you expect. by the time he left wcw he was basically a jobber there too. the flock was a group of complete losers who achieved nothing during their entire existence

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 18:54:44 No.19710088 Report

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There is absolutely zero chance that Vince was ever going to understand what Raven’s character was supposed to be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 18:55:47 No.19710093 Report

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I liked his run in TNA

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 19:01:18 No.19710123 Report

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>>19706925
Goldust loved the Goldust gimmick because it allowed him to be something else than "Dusty's son".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 19:02:16 No.19710128 Report

Quoted By: >>19710174 >>19710178

>>19710075
No, you morons, Raven was never a fucking jobber in WCW. He was always upper midcard, always had a storyline and feud going on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 19:12:33 No.19710174 Report

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>>19710128
i understand what you are saying about his time in wcw because i watched it back then. but although he was given ample tv & mic time and a faction he was STILL barely anything more than a jobber. he never interacted in any way with any of the actual big time stars in wcw during his time there, he basically put together a stable of nobodies and each week they would come out to the ring and argue amongst themselves. yeah he won the US title BUT lost it the very next day in a squash match. if that doesnt describe a jobber i dont know what does

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 19:13:13 No.19710178 Report

Quoted By: >>19710231

>>19710128
you're right, anon. he did nothing in his wwe run, but in wcw he was never a jobber. anyone that insisted he was either wasn't actually watching wcw at the time, or can't remember what they watched and thus should be a considered an unreliable arrogant faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 19:15:52 No.19710185 Report

Quoted By: >>19710284

Raven himself has talked about how surprised he was that he was always protected in WCW, presented well and positioned straight behind the actual main eventers. This is the position that is generally known as the upper midcard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 19:27:21 No.19710231 Report

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>>19710178
>but in wcw he was never a jobber. anyone that insisted he was either wasn't actually watching wcw at the time
who did he beat to make him not a jobber in wcw?
what titles did he or the flock hold?

raven and his flock was a threat to no one. the only main event guy that gave him a rub was his old pal ddp and even then, raven needed help to beat him. then after that one big win his career was over the next night in wcw. but please feel free to detail the many highlights from his time in wcw i might have missed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 19:29:38 No.19710242 Report

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https://youtu.be/p0NpeWe5sGk?si=HNViL1gk9WcD-r66

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 19:37:57 No.19710260 Report

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>>19704728
Upset vince backstage
Didnt like the fact he was popular already
Had a few arguments with wwe brown nosers

Raven was never given a chance in wwe

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 19:43:13 No.19710284 Report

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>>19710185
>Raven himself has talked about how surprised he was that he was always protected in WCW,
except when attacked by random fans. lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 19:48:00 No.19710292 Report

Quoted By: >>19710897

>>19704728
>No Undertaker/Raven feud
true suffering

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Jan 2026 21:52:56 No.19710897 Report

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>>19710292
Raven would have been a great manager in the early to mid 00s. Imagine Kane with the Slow Chemical theme and Raven is there as his mouthpiece and dressed all edgy. That's main event shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2026 00:06:27 No.19711676 Report

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>>19704873
The sale absolutely was going through at that time. Vince tried to buy them in October 2000 but TNN or another network put the screws to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2026 00:17:56 No.19711739 Report

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>>19705247
The lower-mid guy featured on the cover of one the year's best selling video games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2026 01:25:45 No.19712240 Report

Quoted By: >>19712249

>>19704728
raven was a big fish in a small pond and his ceiling was bingo halls. he got exposed hard every time he was in the big leagues

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2026 01:27:23 No.19712249 Report

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>>19712240
Except he was one of the best parts of WCW in 97.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Jan 2026 02:08:29 No.19712467 Report

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>>19704855
Vince isn't a money guy. Vince is a control guy. You misunderstand the man.

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