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pic related proves that anon right, DEAN has always been an airheaded dope who possesses no natural charisma, his appearances on Talk is Jericho where he explicitly says that all of his Japanese Mudshow Deathmatch ideas got him laughed out of the WWE writing room to his appearances with Renee on her podcast where he can hardly get two words out
Renee on the other hand always had her hand out to try to be a REAL journalist and get a hockey job with ESPN, when they turned her down, she went to the E, when she got fired from the E she named her podcast Oral Sessions like a mid 30's wine aunt and quickly retracted because that name was going to hurt her chances of going to ESPN in the future
but now both are a pity hire by a money mark billionaire, and mox's career is probably over anyways