>>11404452I think what hurt him was his look. Its not like Jumbo moved around gracefully all the time. Something about the red boots with the socks sticking out along with the red trunks. Then his big poofy hair when he was younger, its not a very intimidating look and he didn't have the natural charisma to offset it like a Kobashi in his tangerine orange days when he was still younger. Probably wouldn't of changed anything but i wonder if him being in the classic black would've helped at all in that regard.