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He's the most overrated talker ever, he did gimmicky worked shoot promos, he never got you to believe in anything that didn't have gay internet drama attached to it.

>>10072459
Agree with this, let's add:
Lawler, Terry funk, Kevin Sullivan, Arnold Anderson, Ole Anderson, Roddy piper, Tully Blanchard, Jesse ventura, Billy Graham, hulk hogan (I'll shoot on anyone who disagrees brother) THE fucking ROCK, Bruno sammartino (maybe best babyface style promo ever, larry Z, Michael PS Hayes, Bill dundee, Shane Douglas,

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 18:35:47 No.10072552 Report

Quoted By: >>10072581 >>10072617 >>10072638 >>10074970

Jericho is actually one of the worst promos.

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 18:37:15 No.10072575 Report

Quoted By: >>10072592 >>10072617 >>10072658

>>10072449
>Like you have Jericho
Why do people overratedJericho so much? He's not close to top 5 or top 10 in the ring or on the mic.

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 18:37:52 No.10072581 Report

Quoted By: >>10077676

>>10072537
Based Funker.

>>10072549
>Franchise

also based

>>10072552
SHUT YOUR ASS!

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 18:38:53 No.10072592 Report

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>>10072575
>Why do people overrated

I didn't know they ate sour grapes in Goodmorningsirsstan

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 18:40:33 No.10072614 Report

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>>10072592
Not an argument.

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 18:40:34 No.10072616 Report

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>>10072449
>Punk's cringe over-reliance on worked shooty bullshit
>Jericho finding one slightly humorous thing and driving it into the ground
Austin, Roberts, Flair, Savage, Hogan, Foley, Funk, Vince, Lawler and David R. Schultz absolutely ether phil and kwabicho you dumb recency bias-afflicted nigger

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 18:40:36 No.10072617 Report

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>>10072552
>>10072575
Seething dronies mad because he left the fed.

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 18:40:45 No.10072618 Report

Quoted By: >>10072641

>>10072449
He's better than Jericho.
Punk could do the shoot shit or cut a promo on a whim. The one thing AEW really does miss is the fact that whatever Phil said was compelling even if it was nothing.

He's probably top-10 but not top-5, and I think even he would agree with that notion. Regardless of what people say, guys that looked like Punk would not have gotten over in Vince's company, but Punk basically got there because he was that good on the mic.

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 18:42:10 No.10072638 Report

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>>10072552
Eeeeever?

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 18:42:18 No.10072641 Report

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>>10072618
>Better than jerigoat
Both austin and rock would disagree with you faggot

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 18:42:20 No.10072642 Report

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>>10072471
>There's been so much good talent in the WWE and all my favorites speak moon runes so I can't contribute to these threads
ftfy

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 18:43:31 No.10072658 Report

Quoted By: >>10072683 >>10072718

>>10072575
Because he left WWE and if you contend the notion that he's a GOAT you're an e-drone
He's a fantastic talker, not top 10 by any stretch though. He's just been around for a long while and everyone's comfortable with him.

>>10072641
And? They're entitled to their opinions, they're marks, though.

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 18:45:31 No.10072682 Report

Quoted By: >>10072718

He's done 2 good promos in his life and both times he was just shooting - he's never actually had a good promo where he's working
Most overrated promo guy ever

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 18:45:36 No.10072683 Report

Quoted By: >>10072727 >>10072884

>>10072658
The contrarian against him is literally only because of bitter wwe cultists mad that he left their promotion so they have to pretend he was never good. If he returned you'd be sucking him off as the goat again like you did with cawdy when he jumped ship. I was on this board in 2016 and remember the entire board blowing their load over his list shit with Owens thinking it was the hottest shit ever

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 18:46:18 No.10072694 Report

Quoted By: >>10072718 >>10072957

>>10072549
>Shane Douglas
All his best promos are whiney shoots.
>no Stone Cold
Other than that, all fine additions.

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 18:48:25 No.10072718 Report

Quoted By: >>10072792

>>10072658
Being around for so long and having so much range is why he's the GOAT.

>>10072682
oink oink

>>10072694
Douglas must have done something right seeing as Paul & Cena ripped his style off wholesale.

For me, it's Douglas being a giant piece of shit to his challengers.

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 18:49:06 No.10072727 Report

Quoted By: >>10072747 >>10072786

>>10072683
>The contrarian against him is literally only because of bitter wwe cultists mad that he left their promotion so they have to pretend he was never good
And the overrating of him is butter aew cultists who desperately need to overstate the importance or talent of a guy because he left wwe.
>I was on this board in 2016 and remember the entire board blowing their load over his list shit with Owens thinking it was the hottest shit ever
>this board
We were on /asp/ in 2016, and half the people here thought that was cringe, because like everything else jericho did, it was good for a month and then it just kept going and going until you were bored of it.
Jericho's nowhere near actually being "GOAT", he's a genuine legend but if you think he's a GOAT or a shitter you're falling for a side of the console war. He's a top 50 at best and there's zero wrong with that

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 18:50:37 No.10072747 Report

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>>10072727
People were calling Jericho a GOAT in the late 2000s. Too much salt is bad for your flesh, oinker.

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 18:53:00 No.10072773 Report

Quoted By: >>10072794

>>10072747
People were calling Punk a GOAT in 2011, people were calling Danielson a GOAT in 2014. Wrestling fans are afflicted with some of the worst recency bias I've ever seen and in the midst of a hot story they'll anoint new "GOATs" casually.
With any gravitas to the term, any legitimacy to the discussion, he's not close. Again, if you're upset or off put by the notion of a guy you like being considered top 50, you're being silly. Top 50 is a fantastic spot to have, there are just too many people much more impactful or much better than him.

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 18:53:01 No.10072774 Report

Quoted By: >>10072794

>>10072617
I think it's the other way around. You're overrating Jericho precisely because he left the WWE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 18:54:08 No.10072786 Report

Quoted By: >>10072792 >>10077609

>>10072727
He's literally always been the king of the IWC you zoomer retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 18:54:55 No.10072792 Report

Quoted By: >>10072804 >>10072832

>>10072718
>Being around for so long and having so much range is why he's the GOAT.
What's his range, exactly? I've never seen Jericho as having much range, he plays slightly different iterations of the same gag reel. That's great for wrestling, but I don't consider that much in the way of authentic range.
The most range was suit Jericho and that was a pretty standard albeit well-executed archetypal heel, other than that he has always been funny shittalk man with monthly gags.

>>10072786
And? The fuck does that matter to any meaningful discussion, they're insignificant.

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 18:54:58 No.10072794 Report

Quoted By: >>10072848 >>10072868

>>10072773
>recency bias
>2000-&-LATE

So much effort to sound intelligent only to prove the exact opposite.

>>10072774
>h-he's n-n-not that good anyway!

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 18:55:59 No.10072804 Report

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>>10072792
>they're insignificant.

Where_do_you_think_we_are.GIF

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 18:58:23 No.10072832 Report

Quoted By: >>10072848

>>10072792
4chan is the IWC faggot, as is plebbit, youtube, twitter and any other website where people discuss wrestling on the internet. It literally doesn't matter when, he's always been among the 5-10 most beloved wrestlers every year, if you went on rspw in the late 90s and asked them to name their favourites you'd get most replies of Rock, Mankind and Y2J

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 18:59:41 No.10072848 Report

Quoted By: >>10072880 >>10072885

>>10072794
>>recency bias
>>2000-&-LATE
And that's when you said they were calling him GOAT
Jericho is a bit different because he has always been the ultimate darling and the group to whom he was the darling are now AEW's core viewership, but either way, the idea of wrestling fans call someone the "GOAT" is a pretty shallow one, because the point you missed is that they apply that term too casually for it to matter.

>>10072804
An insignificant imageboard?

>>10072832
That doesn't translate 1:1 to drawing power, so again, it's all largely insignificant. All niche audiences voting for their biases.

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 19:01:10 No.10072868 Report

Quoted By: >>10072906

>>10072794
You have to rely on strawmen because you have no actual arguments. Nobody said Jericho wasn't good, he's just not in the top 10 on the mic or in the ring, regardless of whether he's in WWE or AEW.

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 19:01:26 No.10072874 Report

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>>10072449
>So he has to be a top 5 all time promo guy right?
no

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 19:01:53 No.10072880 Report

Quoted By: >>10072893

>>10072848
Crowd overness literally makes someone a draw, you massive faggot, Vince can shove someone down the fans throats like he did with the cancer faking faggot but if they aren't over people will outright stop watching.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 19:02:00 No.10072884 Report

Quoted By: >>10072903

>>10072683
>inventing narratives just because he hasn't seen as much wrestling as others
kek what a cultist

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 19:02:05 No.10072885 Report

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>>10072848
kek tourist can't even quote properly

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 19:02:49 No.10072893 Report

Quoted By: >>10072924

>>10072880
Okay, why didn't it make Jericho one? He's one of the most over guys in AEW and his segments have lost viewers for months. Even on a microcosmic example like AEW, where he should absolutely run shit, he can't sustain drawing power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 19:03:39 No.10072903 Report

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>>10072884
You are a newfag. In 2016 everyone loved the Jericho Owens feud and anything AJ Styles was doing. There was no AEW so people didn't falseflag to white knight for Vince McMahon like they do now, people hated Roman and most were clamoring for Sethetty to get a mega push. Sorry that it hurts your feelings faggot.

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 19:04:07 No.10072906 Report

Quoted By: >>10072909

>>10072868
>double-reply

So fucking MAD

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 19:04:56 No.10072909 Report

Quoted By: >>10072925

>>10072906
nice plebbit spacing. it's time you go back.

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 19:06:23 No.10072924 Report

Quoted By: >>10072961

>>10072893
He went to a no-name promotion where nobody knew who any of the wrestlers were in a dying period of wrestling, and it outdrew wwe in attendance in 2019. Now it has 4 different TV shows, and sold out Wembley Stadium already smashing attendance records for any non-wwe promotion including wcw with hogan. Try again

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 19:06:27 No.10072925 Report

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>>10072909
>immigrant who can't even quote properly calling anyone plebbitor

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 19:09:25 No.10072956 Report

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>>10072449
>top 5
Lmao Jesus tell you were born in 2010 without telling me you were born in 2010. He’s not even top 100 maybe not even top 200. Only thing he’s top 10 at is getting his ass kicked and embarrassed in public

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 19:09:28 No.10072957 Report

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>>10072694
Anon compare everyone else's promis in 1994-96 with shane and it's like comparing nes graphics to ps2

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 19:09:48 No.10072961 Report

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>>10072924
So, it had some debut momentum, and has since dwindled in viewership and attendance? And is being kept afloat in terms of online discussion by a Wembley show which is basically a guaranteed sell-out that WWE was dumb to pass up on in the past?
You know WCW's peak year they had 65 shows with 10k+ attendance, yes? Do you think that's more or less impressive than getting a one-off pop of enormous attendance and a sea of middling shows that struggle to halfway fill gymnasiums? It's much, much more impressive. These comparisons devoid of context make you look stupid.
The sellout couldn't be attributed to Jericho by the way, because he isn't drawing ratings, he's not a drawing act.

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 19:16:29 No.10073042 Report

Quoted By: >>10073076

>>10072449
The same obese smelly Smarks who say Jericho would have a meltdown when someone says Rock

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 19:19:13 No.10073076 Report

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>>10073042
Makes no sense bitchtits, because Rock loves Jericho and rates him just as highly

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 19:27:16 No.10073179 Report

Quoted By: >>10073241

>>10072549
Cnt: ernie Ladd, Bob Armstrong, buddy Landell, Jamie dundee (seriously) new jack,

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 19:32:03 No.10073241 Report

Quoted By: >>10073307

>>10073179
Cnt. Hawk, Eddie gillbert, Bill watts (super underrated btw)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 19:35:57 No.10073307 Report

Quoted By: >>10073336

>>10073241
Cnt. Tommy rich, Jimmy valiant

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 19:37:11 No.10073325 Report

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>>10072449
>cuckman Phil
>top 5
El Oh fucking El. Dude he fucking sucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 19:37:40 No.10073333 Report

Quoted By: >>10073363

>>10072449
Anyone who relies on worked shoots is a shitter

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 19:38:12 No.10073336 Report

Quoted By: >>10073394

>>10073307
Cnt. Brickhouse brown <plz check him out

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 19:40:03 No.10073363 Report

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>>10073333
Attitude era boomers...

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 19:41:37 No.10073384 Report

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>>10072449
>le ebin whiny pipe bomb man
>top 5
Have some standards man

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 19:42:14 No.10073394 Report

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>>10073336
Give me promo from cuckman that has more soul than this, that mixes kayfabe and reality in a non cringe way

https://youtu.be/JksJ3lxzTXU

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 19:47:08 No.10073446 Report

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Jericho gas a billion times more range than cuckman, even his biggest detractors can't deny this point

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 19:54:04 No.10073517 Report

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>>10072471
>>10072480
Holy fuck go back to fucking reddit dude lmao

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 20:33:30 No.10073949 Report

Quoted By: >>10074011

>>10072549
Needs Harley Race for old school guys and you missed the absolute GOAT Scott Steiner.

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 20:38:17 No.10074011 Report

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>>10073949
Harley race fuckin sucked at promos that’s purely revisionist history “muh wrong generation” hipster nostalgia cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 22:00:06 No.10074910 Report

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Can't believe it took seven posts for anyone to even mention Rock.

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 22:03:03 No.10074952 Report

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>>10072449
Phil’s not top 5 anything except maybe “indie darlings that flopped in the big leagues”

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 22:04:14 No.10074970 Report

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>>10072552
Big stupid idiot take tbqh

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Anonymous Sat 06 May 2023 22:07:50 No.10075006 Report

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>>10072449
If you asked me a couple years ago, absolutely. After he got worked into a boiling seething shoot by fucking Adam Page who's fucking terrible at the mic? Punk would be lucky to be in the top 30.

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Anonymous Sun 07 May 2023 00:12:54 No.10076719 Report

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>>10072449

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Anonymous Sun 07 May 2023 00:24:02 No.10077075 Report

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>>10072449
Hi Jericho

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Anonymous Sun 07 May 2023 00:36:56 No.10077609 Report

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>>10072786
Lmao. This is what happens when you try to sound informed about shit you know nothing about.
Jericho "King of the IWC" lol. What a bunch of shite

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Anonymous Sun 07 May 2023 00:38:17 No.10077676 Report

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>>10072471
>>10072480
go back

>>10072581
fat spic. lose weight.

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Anonymous Sun 07 May 2023 00:40:00 No.10077751 Report

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there’s a reason jericuck failed abysmally in hollywood after his mid 2000s run and ended up doing community theater plays. dude is a comedy character. funny, but not a main player, no range. 2010 suit heel stuff was probably his best work.

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Anonymous Sun 07 May 2023 01:00:14 No.10078435 Report

Quoted By: >>10078730

>>10072449
>Only one mention of Piper in this whole thread
You children need to learn your history. Piper was the most based promo in history.
>mocked minorities
>wore blackface
>called Mountie an IRL faggot
>called Bret poor and mocked Stu Hart
>kicked a woman
>mocked fat women
>never lost to Hogan until nobody cared anymore
Piper is a top 5 all-timer and you rubes need to learn

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Anonymous Sun 07 May 2023 01:02:17 No.10078488 Report

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>>10072449
>Smark bait
OH MY SCIENCE!!! I UNDERSTAND THAT REFERENCERINO!!!! GREATEST PROMO GUY EVER!!!!

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Anonymous Sun 07 May 2023 01:10:12 No.10078730 Report

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>>10078435
Piper fucking sucked and he only got revisionism’d into “muh epic legend” for his match against jeribloat at mania. Nobody, and I mean nobody, who was around back then would say Who-wdy Who-ddy Who-per was anything more than jobber to the stars AT BEST

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