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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 01:25:20 No.11785162 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>11785185 >>11785230 >>11785344 >>11785563 >>11785862 >>11785962 >>11785998 >>11786023 >>11786047 >>11786115 >>11786211 >>11786363 >>11786509 >>11788319 >>11789898

Booker T shoots hard on Meltzer, Alvarez and says those nerds are killing the wrestling business
https://www.youtube.com/live/JCmoGWvn3vA?feature=shared&t=3684

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 01:26:10 No.11785185 Report

Quoted By: >>11785233 >>11785819

>>11785162
Point me to where the lie is

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 01:28:09 No.11785230 Report

Quoted By: >>11785819

>>11785162
He's not wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 01:28:24 No.11785233 Report

Quoted By: >>11786465

>>11785185
In the OP. Stop blaming some blogger for you guys failing to create anything interesting in wrestling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 01:34:40 No.11785344 Report

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>>11785162
it's embarrassing how much power these retards imply magoo has, by saying shit like this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 01:38:25 No.11785413 Report

Quoted By: >>11785675

He's not wrong. Smark journalists trying to spoil the show before it happens is cancer

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 01:44:54 No.11785519 Report

Quoted By: >>11785751 >>11785810 >>11786041 >>11786153

If some self-described film jouranlist started spoiling and reading the script to the next marvel or star wars movie or whatever, they would get blackballed from the company and the fans would loathe them. In wrestling, smarks feel entitled to spoilers and demand to know every result asap and then claim the show is predictable and boring.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 01:46:07 No.11785557 Report

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why are smarks like this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 01:46:23 No.11785563 Report

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>>11785162
he's right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 01:52:26 No.11785675 Report

Quoted By: >>11786114

>>11785413
Insiders and rumours exist in every single industry. If it’s not Meltzer or SRS, it will be somone else. How about wrestling companies actually try to do something creative?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 01:56:29 No.11785751 Report

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>>11785519
Don't be a retard. Scripts and early cuts of flims are frequently leaked.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 01:59:50 No.11785791 Report

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At its peak the observer has 2,000 subscribers. It only has as much power as you let it. Hardly Dave’s fault that he has like 6 followers who copy and paste his gossip sheet for clout.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:01:15 No.11785810 Report

Quoted By: >>11786114

>>11785519
If you listen to WOR, you'll know Meltzer doesn't spoil results. Most of the time he has no idea what the endings to big matches will be, he just speculates on the most likely outcome. On the times that he has known an ending, he'll only admit to knowing it after the show has aired. The only real spoilers he does is for pre-tape TV like Rampage and even then he gives a spoiler warning before reading the results.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:01:43 No.11785819 Report

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>>11785230
of course he is
>>11785185
the fact that the company he works for is doing better business than they have in years

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:04:24 No.11785862 Report

Quoted By: >>11786069 >>11786129 >>11788495 >>11788678

>>11785162
There is no "killing" it's already dead, buried, forgotten, heck even the thing that replaced wrestling as a medium the UFC itself has now become irrelevant within the past decade....these guys are fucking delusional. These smarks killed wrestling from ever prospering again in the early 2010's...all these old timers should have been yelling at the top of their lungs in order to have prevented this bullshit from happening but noooo...all probably under Black rocks payroll anyways.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:10:38 No.11785962 Report

Quoted By: >>11785976

>>11785162
Not gonna lie, I am thoroughly enjoying the recent outpouring of dismissal and hatred the wrestling business has to meltzer and the other jabronie nerds who have been poisoning the industry with their shit putting an influence on things.

None of them have been wrong, all they want is for wrestling to be in their hyper-specific autistic image right down to the finest detail and even how it ought to be organised and conducted backstage, its none of their business and frankly its none of ours. They legitimately ruined it for everyone despite what people think whatever "service" they provide by covering a fake sport and ultimately killing the business faster than anyone else.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:11:36 No.11785976 Report

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>>11785962
take your meds and grow up, fat boy

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:13:26 No.11785998 Report

Quoted By: >>11786007 >>11788392

>>11785162
>those nerds are killing the wrestling business
It's 2023. The nerds who are killing the wrestling business are terminally online trannies on reddit and twitter. They've gotten wrestlers fired and blacklisted and have done more damage than magoo ever could

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:13:59 No.11786003 Report

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>>11785976
Hows the bank account looking lately champ? Finding it hard to afford that wrestling observer subscription?

Smelly fat smart piece of shit.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:14:04 No.11786007 Report

Quoted By: >>11786064

>>11785998
Same people who worship meltzer

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:14:44 No.11786023 Report

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>>11785162
I dont disagree

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:15:41 No.11786041 Report

Quoted By: >>11786114

>>11785519
Are you dumb? Does Meltzer or Keller or any of those cunts appear on primetime network TV?
No. They’re niche op-eds on websites people need to access.
Marvel scripts leak all the time. Fucking episodes and full movies leak on occasion too.
What Booker needs to understand is that no one besides smarks would listen to any wrestlers podcast - which just so happens to have crossover with those dirtsheet people.
Basically, shut the fuck up faggot.
Cry moar.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:15:59 No.11786047 Report

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>>11785162
>killing the wrestling business

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:16:45 No.11786064 Report

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>>11786007
nobody takes more seriously than the people who cry about him all over the internet

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:17:00 No.11786069 Report

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>>11785862
this 100%

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:18:44 No.11786099 Report

Quoted By: >>11786114 >>11786226

love how these boomers thing that Meltzer is simultaneously an irrelevant jabroni liar and a cancer who influences the entire industry. It's always blatant that they're just butthurt that Meltzer didn't rain snowflakes on them too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:20:12 No.11786114 Report

Quoted By: >>11786237

>>11785675
>>11785810
>>11786041
>>11786099
Meltzer's paypig simps are here

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:20:12 No.11786115 Report

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>>11785162
Based Meltz killing the wrestling business single-handedly and effortlessly while making big bucks while Booker Coon can only seethe and scream

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:21:15 No.11786129 Report

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>>11785862
you aren't wrong. Wrestling was big when I was in middle school and into high school. 83 anon reporting in. College days and beyond you didn't see that shit nearly as much, but it was still around. It's completely dead from a mainstream / every day life perspective. I ignored wrestling after giving up WCW in the late 90's and only Austin and the Rock ever crossed my path. Booker T is more known for saying nigger to Hulk Hogan than he is for anything of note beyond his WCW days.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:22:52 No.11786153 Report

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>>11785519
you are a retard

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:27:33 No.11786211 Report

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>>11785162
He’s not wrong

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:28:27 No.11786223 Report

Quoted By: >>11786317 >>11786906

The fact of the matter is that the 90s boom had very little to do with quality or the actual people in the ring. It was absolutely a right place right time type of thing. It is not a coincidence that the peak of wrestling coincided with the peak of cable and television watching in general.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:28:40 No.11786226 Report

Quoted By: >>11786253

>>11786099
>love how these boomers thing that Meltzer is simultaneously an irrelevant jabroni liar
Booker didn't say that. He said he hates faggots like Meltzer because they spol things.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:29:23 No.11786237 Report

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>>11786114
seethe about it, bitchtits

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:30:46 No.11786253 Report

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>>11786226
Meltzer doesn't really spoil things though.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:33:59 No.11786317 Report

Quoted By: >>11786361

>>11786223
>The fact of the matter is that the 90s boom had very little to do with quality or the actual people in the ring.
What kind of retarded zoomer headcanon is this? The late 90's wrestling boom happened specifically because it was high quality and had mega stars like Austin and Goldberg in the ring.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:34:05 No.11786323 Report

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>The dirtsheets are killing the business!

Yeah it's not the shitty booking or the shitty storylines, it's those damn dirtsheets. GRRRRRRR

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:36:14 No.11786361 Report

Quoted By: >>11786408 >>11786411

>>11786317
those guys are only stars because they were on prime time television at its apex. Someone like Orange Cassidy or The Miz would be just as big.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:36:20 No.11786363 Report

Quoted By: >>11786385

>>11785162
Nerds make everything worse, specifically the overanalytical geeks. They're the ones ruining every sport by making them be entirely about stats (but bizarre analytical stats no non-geek will ever care about) for instance. In wrestling they're the ones obsessed with 15 minute MOVEZ exhibitions.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:37:56 No.11786385 Report

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>>11786363
You were almost right until you pivoted into match quality instead of people obsessing over shit like ratings, which is something only suits should care about.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:39:18 No.11786408 Report

Quoted By: >>11786454 >>11786542

>>11786361
>those guys are only stars because they were on prime time television at its apex.
Zoomers are so stupid that I can't tell if you're baiting or if you actually believe this desu. It's 50/50.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:39:21 No.11786411 Report

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>>11786361
stop shitposting. Miz and OC are fantastic for what they are but they exist in an ecosystem built up by other types of performers. You need all types, but don't compare them as equals.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:42:42 No.11786454 Report

Quoted By: >>11786466

>>11786408
Next you're going t tell me that you really believe that Seinfeld really is the greatest tv comedy of all time

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:43:20 No.11786465 Report

Quoted By: >>11786564 >>11786662

>>11785233
>white knighting an old autistic kike
seek a father figure

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:43:23 No.11786466 Report

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>>11786454
not that anon, but it's at the table of goats.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:46:45 No.11786509 Report

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>>11785162
Well he's right when these no name bloggers start spouting shit. Which is why Big Dave and Chico are top notch and only ones to pay attention to (along with SRS). Smark bloggers are trash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:49:37 No.11786542 Report

Quoted By: >>11786637 >>11786843 >>11787084

>>11786408
>The late 90's wrestling boom happened specifically because it was high quality
lmao The wrestling boom happened because the product caught up with the fans it had created and lost between childhood and puberty, and it happened at the same time television taboos were being broken across the board with swearing, violence and sex along with South Park, Jerry Springer, Howard Stern. This is what freshened up the product and made it seem cool for a very small window of time. There was still hours of nonsensical, forgettable garbage produced every week.
If you're not the zoomer here it's amazing how much you don't know about what has happened at the time. So you're either a zoomer, a foreigner, or a retard.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:51:07 No.11786564 Report

Quoted By: >>11787829

>>11786465
Your father figures, hitler and trump, lost.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:56:17 No.11786637 Report

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>>11786542
WCW struck gold in that time in the mid to late 90's with the TV product and the N64 games. So many fans made, but many of them tuned out and didn't follow the product to WWF or keep up with WCW in those later dead years. It was such a great golden period of time for me because I didn't watch wrestling prior but it was such a heavily distilled time. Coming back to wrestling decades later seems so damn strange.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 02:57:59 No.11786662 Report

Quoted By: >>11787829

>>11786465
So it’s better to simp for creatively bankrupt billionaires that would eather shift blame elsewhere?

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 03:04:12 No.11786803 Report

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okay I like Booker T but he's a shoot retard here
all Alvarez "reported" was that Mustafa Ali wasn't slated to win the title
He then goes on to speculate (and the article and the quotes from Alvarez in the article make it clear that he's just speculating) that since Dominik wasn't going to lose the title originally, he'll probably get it back. Which is a logical inference than anyone can make.
Booker T then proceeds to misread the article and misunderstand the quotes, and starts crying about "spoilers". Difference is, he's not speculating, he's an actual insider who works at NXT so he probably knows a fair deal about the booking plans and storylines as the senior commentator. So in crying about some dirt sheet journo speculating on what's going to happen, he's unironically genuinely done the very thing he's crying about and spoiled the storyline.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 03:06:54 No.11786843 Report

Quoted By: >>11786894 >>11787016

>>11786542
It's also important to understand this is what ran so many people away. People were ashamed to have watched it and will never come back, or never grew up and got mad when wrestling wasn't Jerry Springer anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 03:10:08 No.11786894 Report

Quoted By: >>11787016 >>11787058

>>11786843
This. The stink of 90s trash tv wrestling is impossible to get away from. I don't get why online wrestling fans are so obsessed with those couple of years. They're an embarrassment.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 03:10:50 No.11786906 Report

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>>11786223
While I agree with this. It's also important to note no wrestler today, who wasn't around back then, can't even lace the boots of Kenny Kaos or The Gambler.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 03:18:51 No.11787016 Report

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>>11786843
>>11786894
strange. The best of the 90's are still beloved, just like the best of the 2000's, and such. WCW's peak is beloved. I keep hearing aspects of the attitude era are beloved. Even parts of 2010's WWE are better than today. Back to the point. 90's wrestling is looked back better because it wasn't such a niche / over focused business. They did shit to get ratings but there wasn't a whiplash of response or governess. It just was.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 03:21:27 No.11787058 Report

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>>11786894
It's grown men in their underwear. It was never some high class shit to begin with. If attitude era is embarrassment then what is new generation era with all the silly cartoon characters? What they should have been? Boring ass pseudosport with no entertainment factor? That'll surely draw.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 03:23:17 No.11787084 Report

Quoted By: >>11787217 >>11787288 >>11787348

>>11786542
Kek. Yup, you're just a clueless zoomer reciting poorly researched youtube videos. Plenty of TV shows, movies, games, comics etc. in the late 90's tried and failed to hop on the bandwagon of attitude, sex, and violence. Shit like WWF and South Park succeeded not only because they tapped in to the edgy cultural mindset of the time but because they were also extremely fucking good. If South Park was poorly written, if WWF didn't have stars like Austin, Rock, or Foley, if WCW didn't have stars like Hollywood Hogan, Sting, or Goldberg, they never would have been popular.
>a zoomer, a foreigner, or a retard
I'm guessing you're all of the above

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 03:32:18 No.11787217 Report

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>>11787084
pretty much this. Even then, these three giants of their times eventually found themselves either ruined or finding a streamlined money making method with no competition / lessoned quality. Credit to SP and WWF/E for getting that sweet easy street deal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 03:37:50 No.11787288 Report

Quoted By: >>11787410 >>11787705

>>11787084
> If South Park was poorly written, if WWF didn't have stars like Austin, Rock, or Foley, if WCW didn't have stars like Hollywood Hogan, Sting, or Goldberg, they never would have been popular.
Their popularity has nothing to do with "quality" either. South Park has actually won Emmys, a wrestling show will never.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 03:42:18 No.11787348 Report

Quoted By: >>11787410 >>11787677

>>11787084
>Austin, Rock, or Foley, if WCW didn't have stars like Hollywood Hogan, Sting, or Goldberg
They had all these guys before and after the boom, it's "a right place right time type of thing" like the other anon said.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 03:46:53 No.11787410 Report

Quoted By: >>11787491

>>11787288
>>11787348
retards. Not even reading anon's post to get context. Failed coordination.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 03:53:05 No.11787491 Report

Quoted By: >>11787564 >>11787677

>>11787410
the context was already given, that the boom happened when wrestling had tits and could say bad words for the first time after being a kids' cartoon show or a generation and after about 2 years of that, the fanbase went to college, had sex and left it behind.
There's a certain section of fans that just can't deal with the fact muh attitude era was an extremely short-term trend as far as mainstream appeal, and it's both sad and amusing.

It wasn't great television, it was a novelty

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 03:59:19 No.11787564 Report

Quoted By: >>11787595

>>11787491
Anon, you don't even know how long the attitude era lasted, and, when you reply with the specific years, it'll already destroy your argument about 2 years+ a few. It wasn't a Huge amount of time, but it made an impact, just as much as the great mid to late 90's push of WCW. Can argue the comparison another time. You are a fucking retard to think this era of WWE didn't have a lasting impact like SP. Awards are retarded because it's an industry stamp of approval, not a sign of quality.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 04:02:06 No.11787595 Report

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>>11787564
>You are a fucking retard to think this era of WWE didn't have a lasting impact like SP
Don't let me stop you from listing all the ways it changed pop culture and television.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 04:08:08 No.11787677 Report

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>>11787348
>They had all these guys before and after the boom
The boom happened because WCW and WWF's creative teams were firing on all cylinders producing great TV and their rosters were stuffed to the gills with generational talent most of whom were at their peak.

>>11787491
>the boom happened when wrestling had tits and could say bad words for the first time after being a kids' cartoon show
Bzzt wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 04:10:21 No.11787705 Report

Quoted By: >>11787731

>>11787288
>South Park has actually won Emmys, a wrestling show will never.
What a bizarre thing to say

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 04:13:52 No.11787731 Report

Quoted By: >>11787772 >>11787819

>>11787705
>What a bizarre thing to say
Yes it was a very bizarre to compare a show that's actually recognized in mainstream entertainment as being on equal footing with a show that's ignored by it

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 04:17:51 No.11787772 Report

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>>11787731
...Yes it is, now formulate a better argument

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 04:22:02 No.11787819 Report

Quoted By: >>11788259

>>11787731
WCW and WWF mogged the shit out of South Park in the late 90's. They were more mainstream and more relevant. Which is impressive because South Park was white hot it's just that the Attitude Era was even white hotter.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 04:22:41 No.11787829 Report

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>>11786564
>>11786662
>white knighting an old autistic kike
seek a father figure

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 04:23:25 No.11787838 Report

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How did he win? Booker sounds like a complete idiot who didn't read. I don't even like Alvarez, but he didn't really say anything that anyone with a brain wouldn't have said.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 04:29:36 No.11787905 Report

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South Park didn't win emmys until long after it's popularity had peaked. What an awful point to bring up.
And when you look at which episodes get nominated for awards it's always the ones about issues like accepting homosexuality or euthanasia or shitting on scientology

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 05:28:54 No.11788259 Report

Quoted By: >>11788306

>>11787819
>WCW and WWF mogged the shit out of South Park in the late 90's. They were more mainstream and more relevant
lol https://www.newspapers.com/article/41307269/the-los-angeles-times/

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 05:35:59 No.11788306 Report

Quoted By: >>11788378

>>11788259

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 05:37:36 No.11788319 Report

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>>11785162
He isn't wrong at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 05:47:35 No.11788378 Report

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>>11788306
>South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut: $52,037,603
>Wrestlemania XV: $1,437,050

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 05:49:56 No.11788392 Report

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>>11785998
Memeltzer in his recent years, especially in defense with AEW has been conducting himself like one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 06:08:17 No.11788495 Report

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>>11785862
I remember quitting wrestling in 2017 as a consumer when the WWE did their first female MITB match with the finish where Ellsworth wins it for Carmella while everyone's out and I saw the fans and those angloshit youtube marks calling it "sexist and counterproductive to inclusivity", and I thought "these retards are not worth the show".
I felt disgusted to technically be in the same group as them.
Fuck the normiemarks, seriously. They make it atrocious to watch wrestling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 06:48:31 No.11788678 Report

Quoted By: >>11788696

>>11785862
>even the thing that replaced wrestling as a medium the UFC itself has now become irrelevant within the past decade
I thought it was just my imagination. I haven't heard normalfags talk about UFC in a long ass time

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 06:52:58 No.11788696 Report

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>>11788678
From what I heard nobody has give two shits about it since McGregor became a joke. Their biggest draw was embarrassed multiple and it's now truly over for him. UFC is dead. Actually all men's media as a whole is now dead. It's literally all just gay fag shit from here on out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2023 12:10:35 No.11789898 Report

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>>11785162
Kek woodditards sliding this one

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